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Dear all,
I contacted HTC for my device upgrading and ROM updates, and they direct me to this forum.
I have a TyTN unlocked device, and want to upgrade to WM6. I explored all what you posted here but couldn't decide which version and link is suitable for me. Any way, here down my device information, and I'm appreciating any help to upgrade my device to WM6.
Device Information:
Device Name: HTC TyTN (Unlocked)
Language: English
Processor: SC32442A - 400MHz
Memory: 49.05 MB
System: Windows Mobile 5.0 OS 5.1.195 (Build 14955.2.3.0)
That are all information I could get from my device
Need Help my friends.
After all, I beleive that HTC should have an upgrade area to support their devices.
Thank you in advance.
Hi there!
its good to know that HTC assistants sent you here on this forum !!
I can suggest you to go for the wm6 image black 2.5 as its been always the most stable for me, so read the wiki and all the documents to upgrade your hermes to that version.
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=37&Itemid=26
and don't run in the upgrade, take your time to read everything and if you don't understand something, come back here.
redaatef said:
I have a TyTN unlocked device, and want to upgrade to WM6.
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It depends on your personal reasons for upgrading. If you want to upgrade because of more speed and more stability you should try Black 2.5. If you are doing it because of adventuresomeness you should give all of the great roms here a try.
But at least you should try Black 2.5, Duttys V2 and Custels 1.3 to find out which one is the best for you. You should also try different radios to see if theres a difference in your area.
And don't forget the most important object: read mrvanx upgrade guides very very carefully and follow every step exactly.
be aware that the ROMs here are *unofficial* and *unsupported* ROMs.
HTC will NOT help you out if you screw up your device.
if you are unsure about flashing, then stay with the stock ROM.
I have a UK unlocked Tytn and would very strongly recommend Black 2.5.
My first ever ROM upgrade was Black 1.2 and it was soo god. 2.0 was even better and 2.5 better still. Have had no problems, battery life is much better, doesn't lockup/freeze any more, loads more memory available.....i could go on.
Go for it - follow mrvanx's upgrade guide. he makes it very easy
Flashig roms is one way... be careful...
When I first flashed a WM6 Rom on to my HERMES I made sure I read all the preinstall instructions very carefully as I didn't have a clue about flashing. MR VANX's guide is excellent, follow it carefully and you can't go wrong.
I have now successfully flashed numerous ROMS on to my device.
No-one can tell you which is the best ROM as they are all excellent for their own different features and customisations. You will need to try a few and see which you like best.
Good Luck.
I highly doubt
That an HTC representative sent someone here for ROM updates to WM 6.0.
If they did and are caught, they will probably be terminated.
I deal with HTC regularly and they don't condone or encourage our methods of tuning and research.
Be careful out there.
Thank you
Thank you a lot for your replies guys. They helped me a lot. I'll do the upgrade and will back to you with the results. Thanks again.
silverfox0214 said:
I deal with HTC regularly and they don't condone or encourage our methods of tuning and research.
Be careful out there.
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It always amazes me how corporate structures can be so schizoid. I too have received- from in-the-trenches personel- a pointer to this site specifically for beta testing WM6 Push. Conversely, the moderators here made it clear that management at HTC was a major impetus behind MS's request that the ftp archives be pulled.
The kicker for me is that the Wiki on HTC's US site specifically points to this XDA-developers and those postings are all vetted by someone at HTC USA. I'm thankful for that because that's how I found this site in the first place.
My Upgrading Status
First of all, I would like to add my voice to (teambnet) that I'm thankful for them to made me know this website and forum in the first place.
OK, about my upgrading status guys, I did exactely as shown in mrvanx.org website and did install WM6 Black 2.5, everything is gone fine except one thing, that the button of contact voice tag is not working. When I push that button, it gives me a message "Error opening the shortcut or locating the target filename.", I tried then to assign the shortcut to a program by going to Start --> Settings --> Buttons, but I couldn't find the program that should be assigned. I don't know if my problem are clear or not but I tried to explain as much I could. Any suggestions to solve that?
Thanks all,
Reda,
teambnet said:
The kicker for me is that the Wiki on HTC's US site specifically points to this XDA-developers and those postings are all vetted by someone at HTC USA. I'm thankful for that because that's how I found this site in the first place.
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I always suspected that secretly HTC were using us as beta testing guinea pigs, now it looks like I was right! And half of the fixes for their bugs are created by developers on this site.
Seriously though, if your Hermes is no longer covered by the original HTC warranty (as mine was from the very first day I got it, since I bought it from an "unauthorized" distributor), then HTC have nothing to lose by pointing someone to this site. They might as well have said, "Flush it down the toilet for all we care..."
John
HTC's wiki is just like ours, anyone can edit it... So i doubt that HTC themselves put a link to XDA on their wiki, but someone else probably did..
You need to install the voice commander CAB located on the first page of BLACK2.5 Then remap the button.
You should read thru the numerous posted before asked already resolved issues. Congrats on the UPGRADE!!!
redaatef said:
First of all, I would like to add my voice to (teambnet) that I'm thankful for them to made me know this website and forum in the first place.
OK, about my upgrading status guys, I did exactely as shown in mrvanx.org website and did install WM6 Black 2.5, everything is gone fine except one thing, that the button of contact voice tag is not working. When I push that button, it gives me a message "Error opening the shortcut or locating the target filename.", I tried then to assign the shortcut to a program by going to Start --> Settings --> Buttons, but I couldn't find the program that should be assigned. I don't know if my problem are clear or not but I tried to explain as much I could. Any suggestions to solve that?
Thanks all,
Reda,
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Finally Finished
Hi all,
Thank you stuckes, I did as you told me and everything gone very nice. WM6 is a nice OS, not that much different from WM5 at least for me. But, it's nice. Thank you all for your help in that.
I got a question, when I would to upgrade, there are many versions of WM6, Black2.5 and other versions, where can I find a complete comparison with screenshots of them to decide if I'm gonna change to another one or stick to black 2.5?
Regards,
Arnie gets tough with the chefs.....
silverfox0214 said:
That an HTC representative sent someone here for ROM updates to WM 6.0.
If they did and are caught, they will probably be TERMINATED.
I deal with HTC regularly and they don't condone or encourage our methods of tuning and research.
Be careful out there.
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Asta la vista baby !
hi ... what about black 3.00 for may tytn
thanks
naxos said:
hi ... what about black 3.00 for may tytn
thanks
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Is there black 3.00? where can we find more details about it?
redaatef said:
Is there black 3.00? where can we find more details about it?
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There's a black 3.0.1.
Easily found along with a list of many other ROMs on the wiki page here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Cooked_ROMs
And this is the link to the Black 3.0.1 thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305940
HTH, Oggy.
hey guys,
ok i used to be quite the regular (i still host most the roms and new ones on my zimuhost.getmyip.com site).
however i'm quite behind the times and havne't been following developments much.
can someone advise me whats the best way to go about:
1) backing up my current SMSs (no clue what new software is out there)
2) suggest me a new ROM (i'm still on the old black one- shadow). i want pocketCM thats running natively if thats possible... but i don't mind installing it on another ROM that may work better.
3) space is not important to me. pagepool / speed is. i don't mind giving up 12mb pagepool memory, even more to font caches etc for speed. the storage is unnecessary.
i've already updated olipro and radio stacks, so i'm pretty good to go.
thanks a lot guys
and as usual, if you want any phone-related download mirrors for files / roms etc, just shoot me a PM with the megaupload/etc link and you'll have a nice http download option
anybody?
advice would be loved
Hello mate,
Given your history of hosting, etc, and helping the community out I thought I would get a response in before some smart ar*e tells you to read the f*** wiki.
Anyway:
- SMS backup - There's a tool on here called (I think) PIMS. Should do the job else go for SPB backup.
- New Rom - tough one this as it depends on what you are looking for. I use Schaps (see my sig) because it is rock solid stable. However Shamanix has just produced a lite version based on Schaps and has provided a shedload of cabs for people to personalise their own install. Personally I prefer this approach as you get more or less exactly what you want. Search on here for it.
Does this help?
Cheers
WB
hey WB, thanks a bunch for the response i was totally expecting the flaming to start instantly!
Problem is that the last time i frequented this site and was a regular there were like 3 ROM developers. now there are like 42,000. I have no clue which version of what to use, even after having heavily browsed around this site the past 2 days!
i'll take your advice and stick with schaps, downloading 3.54 right now...
Excellent. I can also recommend the radio version I'm using as that has been the most stable to date.
CARE - make sure you do what Mr Vanx suggests BEFORE you jump in. See here for more info (http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/). Take your time and read loads first. Saves a lot of grief later on.
Cheers
WB
I want 2 know who has the best rom from here , but i want 2 have touch flo on the rom and htc home plugin , so i wait an answer .. i`m a fresh user of the htc and of the forum ..
tnx in advance
There is no such thing as best rom since you would be offending the cooks
be gratefull and pick out which ever one is to oyur liking!
There are only ROMs with buttonflo integrated so far (turning by button presses, not by fingers) and they are fairly old. If you want finger scroll possibility and the cube you can flash whatever ROM you like and then install fTouchFlo and Slither's Flash Cube. Which is the best ROM depends on your needs and demands -read the ROMs threads about their advantages/issues - use your own head to figure out what you need. Asking this question can lead to serious flaming (because it is asked VERY often).
leoiden said:
There is no such thing as best rom since you would be offending the cooks
be gratefull and pick out which ever one is to oyur liking!
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i`m not ofending anyone but i want an advice ... just i want a stabe rom and one who could not brick my device , and i dont ask much someone could tell a rom with touch flo and htc home plugin ... or a stable one
i try several roms 2 download but they get me errors .. that i ask some advices .. i`m not an expert in this ...
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There are only ROMs with buttonflo integrated so far (turning by button presses, not by fingers) and they are fairly old. If you want finger scroll possibility and the cube you can flash whatever ROM you like and then install fTouchFlo and Slither's Flash Cube. Which is the best ROM depends on your needs and demands -read the ROMs threads about their advantages/issues - use your own head to figure out what you need. Asking this question can lead to serious flaming (because it is asked VERY often).
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ok tnx ... this i want 2 hear
Welcome
pyrogfx,
Welcome to the forum. Here are a few tips to get you started in the right direction. Read the xda-wiki. Karhu came out with a really good thread on benchmarks, go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=320370
And you already been introduced to some of the senior members, you have to be really careful on the questions that you ask here. As, leoiden, and Karhu pointed out, you can be asking for serious flaming, asking for a ROM that will not brick your phone.
If you read the wiki, your phone should be ok for flashing, and it won't get bricked. But, the key is to read the wiki and read the threads, then when you have exhausted all this, and you still don't understand, just ask. But, from one member to another, just be careful on how you say things, and word your questions.
Also, you might want to copy the format of my signature, as it has helped me when I would ask questions, senior members where able to get a better understanding of what I already had, so I didn't have to put into every single post.
I hope this helps.
The Best ROM for the Tytn
Hey pyro, they are right. All of the cooks are great. Another thing to keep in mind is that we are using WINDOWS mobile, which means you will have lock ups and unexplained errors from time to time, no matter which rom you use.
That said, there are some cookers who put stuff on the roms that I prefer over the others. My two favorites right now for the Tytn are Schap and ItsRight. Itsright also does some cool wizard roms.
Every cooker stands on the shoulders of others. None of them would be much without the likes of faria, vijay, and tons of others.
Please pardon my ignorance. I have tried to work out what is going on here for the last couple of months, hoping that it would finally just click. could someone please explain to me what all these ROM's are. So I have an HTC touch diamond with the standard ROM (from the last update, i think 1.9xxxxxx cant remember). With all these 'ROM' developments what more do you get out of the phone. Do you guys still use the TouchFlo 3D? What is HARD-spl? Is it worth changing the ROM? There seems to be a lot of ROM's, how do i know which is the best 1 to use? I feel like i have so many more questions, but please could someone just outline what it is all about.
please excuse my ignorance. I have tried looking it up but i still dont understand so pardon me for taking shortcuts.
Thanks
Tony
All the wisdom of the world in a single link: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Diamond
i don't see how pointing him ti the wiki will answer any of his questions. that thing is as old as the diamond itself.
ROMs are the data image on your phone. the read only memory that includes sys, xip, wm6.1 and tf3d plus all the component packages in a ppc. all the ones floating around here are tweaked and updated by people to work the way they want them to, with suggestions by the testers.
they are all basically the same.
they are based on official htc releases and updated to the latest operating bits from other devices, then shared with us.
its up to you to find what works best on your device in your locale and for your specific needs. you don't have to read entire threads, just the last few pages or from the date that the latest one was released by that cook.
hard spl is a phone condom to keep people from bricking their phone. it is required and very important. i suggest developers edition so you can flash any rom you want.
and yes, flashing a cooked rom is very worth it, but i warn you, once you start you can't stop.
i can't tell you which is the best, i do know what are my favorites, but the journey you will take finding that perfect rom is very rewarding.
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i don't see how pointing him ti the wiki will answer any of his questions. that thing is old as the diamond itself.
ROMs are the data image on your phone. the read only memory that includes sys, xip, wm6.1 and tf3d plus all the component packages in a ppc. all the ones floating around here are tweaked and updated by people to work the way they want them to, with suggestions by the testers.
they are all basically the same.
they are based on official htc releases and updated to the latest operating bits from other devices, then shared with us.
its up to you to find what works best on your device in your locale and for your specific needs. you don't have to read entire threads, just the last few pages or from the date that the latest one was released by that cook.
hard slp is a phone condom to keep people from bricking their phone. it is required and very important. i suggest developers edition so you can flash any rom you want.
and yes, flashing a cooked rom is very worth it, but i warn you, once you start you can't stop.
i can't tell you which is the best, i do know what are my favorites, but the journey you will take finding that perfect rom is very rewarding.
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thank you very much
you have answered exactly what i wanted to know.
I'll give it a look into. Oh, and 1 other thing. If I have applications installed on my phone already, i presume after putting a 'cooked ROM' on it will remove all installed applications? Wouldnt bother me too much, just my TomTom navigation is a HUGE mission to get going. I suppose im on holiday and have time to fiddle.
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thank you very much
you have answered exactly what i wanted to know.
I'll give it a look into. Oh, and 1 other thing. If I have applications installed on my phone already, i presume after putting a 'cooked ROM' on it will remove all installed applications? Wouldnt bother me too much, just my TomTom navigation is a HUGE mission to get going. I suppose im on holiday and have time to fiddle.
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Everything in the Device is erased when you flash a ROM. Stuff in the Internal Storage stays the same.
By da way you can also flash Radios.
Greets.
have a look here as this helped me alot
[TUT]Complete upgrading guide (HardSPL+Radio+ROM) NOT FOR CDMA USERS!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=416211
tonypony said:
thank you very much
you have answered exactly what i wanted to know.
I'll give it a look into. Oh, and 1 other thing. If I have applications installed on my phone already, i presume after putting a 'cooked ROM' on it will remove all installed applications? Wouldnt bother me too much, just my TomTom navigation is a HUGE mission to get going. I suppose im on holiday and have time to fiddle.
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pretty much all apps for ppc can be found in .cab form. this is for easy installation and removal. if you choose a full rom you will get all stock htc apps, but a lite rom is bare bones. keep your collection of cabs on your internal storage for quick re-installation after flashing. also keep a backup of your cabs on your pc.
glad this helps
i didn't want anyone here to tell you RTFM or link you to search page. THAT REALLY GRINDS MY GEARS. ha lol
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pretty much all apps for ppc can be found in .cab form. this is for easy installation and removal. if you choose a full rom you will get all stock htc apps, but a lite rom is bare bones. keep your collection of cabs on your internal storage for quick re-installation after flashing. also keep a backup of your cabs on your pc.
glad this helps
i didn't want anyone here to tell you RTFM or link you to search page. THAT REALLY GRINDS MY GEARS. ha lol
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ya i can relate to that. Im also quite a forum junkie and I cant stand it when people direct me to search engines. Even on my local PS3 forum people always help out. Thanks to all for your help. Much appreciated.
So if I want to flash a ROM on my phone I just have to sift through the 1's here that are available. Do you guys recommend any? ie. one's that have few problems.
Typically the rom you get with the phone is a generic one, not too fast, full of feature and there to please everybody.
A cooked rom normally strips things down or tunes the device to a specific need. some roms remove as much as they can to give you more ram. Great for those of us who browse the web.
Others load them with more features so you never want for anything.
Others are generic but more upto date. The problem with official roms is they are updated and then go into testing for months and months then get released.
a custom rom will take updated drivers from other devices (like the HD) and place them into our roms with around a weeks testing or less. so we get them sooner. This does have its drawbacks.
A custom rom can be less stable than an official one. but you can get lucky. Duttys 3.6b is a good mix. Its faster than the stock rom, has more features but more memory as the rubbish is removed.
In the past 2 days I have learnt how to cook my own rom, which is the dream situation. I get rid of everything I dont want like Cyberon, transcriber, ringtones and other stuff. SO I have loads of storage free but also add in the software I use the most.
I now have the fastest rom I have ever used and its perfect beacause its tailor made by me, for me. Its really not that hard.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=413782
Hi guys,
I have recently just purchased AT&T Tilt 2 and it is my first HTC as well as my first WM phone. Prior to this purchase, I have been using kids phone like sony ericsson walkman and stuff like that. I was wondering, what are some apps that is a MUST HAVE for the rhodium? What apps can I download to make my tilt 2 run more smoothly? What can i do to make it run more smoothly? Also, What is HARD SPL? and what is flashing?
Thanks in advance for all inputs!!
I cant wait till i get my tilt 2, delivery should take about a week.
Cheers
Welcome to the windows party!
How do you know if you need to speed it up if you don't even have it yet! At least experience it first hand...
HardSPL is a tool that allows you to flash ROMs to your phone that AT&T didn't supply (Such as a ROM direct from HTC, or a custom rom written by one of the great people here at XDA). Without HardSPL, the only ROM that you can apply to your Tilt2 would be from AT&T.
Must have apps depend on your interests. Some people might like a certain app while others could care less for it. There is a lot out there, and thankfully there is now the App Store that you can browse apps yourself and see what is out there. Look through different roms as well and see the apps that people include there. And feel free to search to your hearts content, using the site and using google. There is a lot of information out there.
As for just getting started here, visit the WIKI page for the Rhodium over at wiki.xda-developers.com as it is a great getting started site. Also tilt2.blownfuze.org is a nice place to get started as well with your new phone.
Jason
hi myrandex, thank you very much for the reply. I have been obsessed over this phone for a few months now and finally saved enough money to purchase one. So i have been reading a little bit about this phone and noticed a general consensus about it having lags and stuff so thats why i asked about apps to make it more smooth.
Sorry as I am complete new and ignorant to WM ... but is the benefit of flashing ROMs to your phone and what exactly does it do? and what is the difference between flashing ROMs and the ROMs that AT&T supplied?
And as for the apps, i know their are tons of apps out there suited for different people and different needs. But i was wondering if there is some apps that are generally appreciated by rhodium users and are considered a 'must haves' for every rhodium user. I remember reader about some apps that allows you to run your rhodium with lesser lag? Im not too sure.
And again, thank you very much for the inputs!
I am very happy and excited to join the WM community hehe. Just cant wait to get my hands on my tilt 2.
Cheers
I am just like you...
you could start here for the basics....
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=FAQ
gives a lot of info...
then in the ROM development thread.. start with the one for the noobs.. its a sticky..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550540
try and get as much info from here as possible.. then do your flashing..
good luck..
i too am new to WM, but i would say get use to your phone first before flashing. Once you flash, there might be bugs on the ROM that the chef (person who created the ROM) created and will need updates. Some ROM might clash with some apps and vice versa.
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/
Awesome site to find apps.
I suggest the following thread for software you should get: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550973&highlight=facebook&page=1
Hope that helps.