I have another observation:
If I soft reset and then cick the Start button it takes by aprox 13-14 seconds till the menu opens up. I can not remember how it was when I was with the original t-mobile ROM. since I can not rmember I deduct that it probably was not an issue. once I open it once it works fine...
is that expected operation? has anyone else have similar experiene?
I am not running the antivirus. It was installed with the extended rom, I have never ran the shortcut in the programs to setit up, and I have removed it with add remove programs. so you could say it was never active.
If you are using spb pocket plus or any similar software, just remove the SD card indicator and the battery meter from the screen.
Also you should disable the error reporting.
I think this will improve the speed of your device in general and will not experience the same problem agian.
Regards,
do not have any indicators and the error reporting is off
It may be something related to any of the sofwares installed on your device.
If I'm in your place I would hard reset, and install the softwares one by one and check it's effection on the device.
It may be also something related to the extended rom as I think it verries according to the supplyer.
To know if it is related to the extended rom or not you have to hard reset and then softreset before the extended rom is installed.
Then you have to install the extended rom item by item according to your needs and don't install the items which you don't need, but you better install them on the storage card instead of the main memory as this will save good amount of space in your device.
Regards,
I think I got it now.
Well if I chnage the shortcuts on my start menue to the stuff I mostly use e.g. Resco File explorer, TOMTOM, etc, those programs are installed on the SD CArd, so it takes time to read that info. Now I haven't change the shortcuts in the start menue this time and all is fine no delays...
Could it be true ?? I thought the .lnk files are on the device in the Windows\start menu ?? am I missing something ?? though, well the icons the .lnk is getting are coming from the executables and those are on the SD Cards, so mayhbe it does make sence at the end....
Well if someone has a better explanation please do not be shy
I found a culprit at least by me (see my signature for the configuration)
It is Skype...
When installed after a soft reset It takes 12-13 seconds to open the start menu. But if you haven't run tskype yet then it takes about 5-6 seconds. Completely unacceptable. I would think it has to do with the shortcut of the skype which is being placed in the recently ran programs after you run it.
Anyhow so I guess this is solved...
I don't have a clue, but when I boot my PC, starting the first programs is also a bit slower than some seconds later, I would say thats a normal thing, cuz PPC's get PC's more and more...
greetz Nemesis
On the I-mate ROM some of the "Today Screen" skins are very large files and cause this phenomenon which Churchill has described here i.e. slow response to the Start button immediately after a soft reset. The more notorious skins are i-mate grass and i-mate swoosh and some others. Avoid using them and prefer using simpler ones. Try them yourself one by one and you will see wonders.
Hope this helps.
Kind Regards
Related
i am new to pda's so take care with me, i am a real novice!!
any way it keeps frezzing up,
i have tomtom 3 blutooth sat nav, loaded on, which a college has given me!! it works fine but every time i touch the pda it frezzes (plus i dont need to touch it it just does it on its own accord,)
it isnt just when the tomtom is on,
it does it what ever i am doing!!
if you can help, please do!! but remember i may need well detailed info on what to do to rectifi the problem,
thanks bill
Bill, I had a similar problem with my wifes XDA II when I loaded Tomtom software onto it. I did the following and it resolved the problem for me, so you may want to give it a try (assuming you still have the problem).
Tap on Start (on the desktop screen)
Select Settings
Select the system tab at the bottom of the screen
Tap on the memory icon
Select the Running Programs tab
This opens up a window which shows you all the programs which are currently running on your PPC
Select STOP ALL from the options available
This will close all programs running on the system and free up your memory resource, so now go back to the desk top view.
Then start your Tomtom program up again as you would do normally and see if it freezes on you this time.
IMPORTANT ADVISE - You must close Tomtom down from the options within the program which, on my system is a large red EXIT APPLICATION icon found in the Navigator Menu.
Hope this works for you as well as it did for me.
Good luck :lol:
Piper
8) Go to the windows startup folder and delete connections.exe.
That will free up a lot of resources
Fatzzz
whats this do
connections.exe.
Other than connections.exe..
Hey everyone,
I just received my XDA IIs from Hong Kong 3 days ago. Since then, the PDA portion is working great. But the phone keeps locking up. I cannot hear caller and they cannot hear me. I have been soft resetting at least 2 x a day...and missing calls..
is there anything else that we should delete?
Thanks!
max0002
There is an inherent problem with the audio on this particular model (Blue Angel)
The problem seems to escalate if you use the Bluetooth Audio.
I experience the problem 2-3 times a week, even with the connections.exe removed from the Windows/Startup Folder.
Hopefully a new release of the Radio/Firmware will cure the problem.
Fatzzz
I've had an O2 XDA Orbit for about a month. It's my first Windows mobile product. I love the range of functions. I like being able to use CoPilot with the GPS. I really like being able to sync my Outlook address book.
BUT... the thing hangs ALL THE TIME. Sometimes it hangs for a few seconds. Other times, it locks up completely and I've got to take the battery out to reboot because even the power button doesn' work.
Last week, it hung during a re-boot, I tried the PIN number a few times and it locked me out for a full day. O2 tech support didn't have a clue what was going on. I sorted it myself. (I've now disabled the PIN).
It's really annoying when you have to wait a full minute before you can make a phone call because it is hanging whilst opening up your contact list.
How do I make the thing stop hanging?
Tolkien said:
I've had an O2 XDA Orbit for about a month. It's my first Windows mobile product. I love the range of functions. I like being able to use CoPilot with the GPS. I really like being able to sync my Outlook address book.
BUT... the thing hangs ALL THE TIME. Sometimes it hangs for a few seconds. Other times, it locks up completely and I've got to take the battery out to reboot because even the power button doesn' work.
Last week, it hung during a re-boot, I tried the PIN number a few times and it locked me out for a full day. O2 tech support didn't have a clue what was going on. I sorted it myself. (I've now disabled the PIN).
It's really annoying when you have to wait a full minute before you can make a phone call because it is hanging whilst opening up your contact list.
How do I make the thing stop hanging?
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Put either the HTC or DOPOD rom on it, the O2 one is crap.
Tolkien said:
It's really annoying when you have to wait a full minute before you can make a phone call because it is hanging whilst opening up your contact list.
How do I make the thing stop hanging?
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Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297793
for a start overclock it and you will a great difference in speed
http://www.trancreative.com/mb.aspx
Longhair said:
http://www.trancreative.com/mb.aspx
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I don't know about the O2 model but I believe the HTC model already has such a function, it just needs to be turned on. It should be in settings and titled Task Manager.
Download "Audacity" and it comes with a free sd card speed test.
See it it's the speed of the sd card.
If it is then read through the "corrupt card" thread >> you will see the recommendation -- set the power turnoff time to say 2 minutes and never use the on/off switch.
You will need a soft reset in between to reset the speed of the card.
kennyidaho said:
I don't know about the O2 model but I believe the HTC model already has such a function, it just needs to be turned on. It should be in settings and titled Task Manager.
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Here is my personal experience on the link I gave you:
Before I installed it - I would click the OK button in the upper right hand corner. The application would only be MINIMIZED. After a while, all the minimized programs eat up so many resources that it bogs down the phone.
After I installed it, the OK button was replaced with an X and it would actually CLOSE the applications freeing up the resources.
It is a small free program that can be uninstalled if you do not like it - so there is nothing to lose.
Now what I don't understand is why didn't WM5 give the choice to either minimize or close applications like they do with PCs
Longhair said:
Here is my personal experience on the link I gave you:
Before I installed it - I would click the OK button in the upper right hand corner. The application would only be MINIMIZED. After a while, all the minimized programs eat up so many resources that it bogs down the phone.
After I installed it, the OK button was replaced with an X and it would actually CLOSE the applications freeing up the resources.
It is a small free program that can be uninstalled if you do not like it - so there is nothing to lose.
Now what I don't understand is why didn't WM5 give the choice to either minimize or close applications like they do with PCs
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I reckon the reasoning is that if people minimize applications (which they will do to avoid launch lag) and forget to close applications (which they will do ) the device will definitely crash.
For an insight into WM5 memory management read this:
http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2006/08/16/702746.aspx
Incidentally, the O2 Custom Today plugin included with the O2 UK Orbit rom allows you to actually close an application.
in the bottom right of my o2 device is a little o2 logo that allows me to close programs manually, works a treat
Thank you
Thanks so much to everyone who has responded to my (desparate sounding) post.
I use the O2 button to close applications routinely. I don't leave them open because I know this slows things down and (presumably) increases battery usage. I don't think that is the cause of the problem.
I've already been through the routine with the SD card. I don't think that it the problem either.
The only suggestion here I haven't tried is overclocking it. How do I do it? Does it invalidate my warranty?
amino said:
in the bottom right of my o2 device is a little o2 logo that allows me to close programs manually, works a treat
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Same as mine. It's pretty good.
yup, it will invalidate the warranty so just hope you can take it off before it goes back if it has to, I work for o2, the people in the shop wont know that youve overclocked it and I wouldnt tell them, the repairers on the other hand might spot it so be careful
tou can get the overclocking program here: http://www.chi-tai.info/cs_BatteryStatus_XDA_Neo_WM5_iM_cs.htm
theres full instructions, read before you start tweaking it on your own. I have mine overclocked to 260mhz and I noticed the difference immediatley, it reverts back to 201mhz in sleep mode and jumps to 260 when I power it up.
hth
Do you have a skin? I downloaded a nice AppleMac style skin and everything slowed down - took me 2 days to realise the cause.
Also, the o2 icon does not always close programs. Use it then go to Settings/System/Memory , have a look in the Running Programs tab and you sometimes see something still in there that should have closed with the o2 icon!!
Michael
Need some advice. My program menu on my xda keeps whiting out.
On an initial start (or after editing the program list) the program list (or start menu) displays fine.
On the 2nd click some icons start doubling up at the bottom and fill the screen.
The on the 3rd click it goes off the bottom of the screen and goes completely white!
What gives? I've editing the number of items, looking in the registry at start menu opetions, deleting programs, but nothing solves it.
Performance etc not hampered but its really annoying. It MIGHT have started after installing a c++ cube program launcher (not sure).
if anyone has ideas to fix it please let me know.
TIA Sean
Hey I just had that exact same issue earlier. I was editing my \Windows\start Menu\Programs folder and making some adjustments when i noticed it happening. I kinda narrowed it down to being something to do with HButton. I was fiddling with the Hbutton display options just after modifying the programs folder. After more fiddling with the HButton display (changing colour and position) and a soft reset, my Start menu started working fine again and I havent had any problems with it again so far.
Probably nothing at all to do with it but thats what seems to have fixed mine as i didnt touch anything else but HButton and it is now resolved.
hope this helps in some way
[EDIT] completely ignore what I just put above, its just happeed again. The only thing I have done this time is Activesync and install a game. Kinda thinking it has something to do with Activesync now.......
lol oh well i guess i'll have to put up with it for now then. half a mind to send it back to O2 but its a software bug, I'll get the problem on the next phone as well.
Try to see in Memory the program values.
In my experience when tou have few program memory, start and today redrow is very difficult.
It happened me some times ago when i tryed a rom with problems of memory allocation.
You can try another rom (today you have many chose )
bigix1 said:
You can try another rom (today you have many chose )
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Well considering my phone is one a month old I dont think I'll be flashing the rom JUST yet.
And update: for some reason the start menu is back to normal behavior! Absolutely no idea why. Just when i was getting used to it as well.
Hi all,
First I have to say that I'm over the moon with my new TP2!!
I absolutely love it
Today I started customizing it, and I've got one problem.
No matter what task bar I'm installing, after soft reset TF3D won't start.
It just shows HTC, and nothing happens.
At this moment I have the stock Dutch rom that ships with the TP2.
I installed sdkcerts.
Anyone experiencing the same thing??
H.
sorry wrong thread
TF3D
Hi there,
I've had the same issue with my UK spec, a reboot often cures it but it is a bit lame when the software wont even start up.
So far this has only happened to me about 3 times but I have been playing with it immensly and have rebooted it about 20 times already whilst cocking up some Shat Nav software.
Still loving it in general though ;-)
I'm having the same problem, rebooting doesn't solve anything.
A hard reset does, but than I have to reinstall everyting.
Manually starting manila.exe is an option, unfortunately than the time isn't updated.
Anybody has a sollution for this?
My solution was:
1. Go to: Start > Settings > first tab and click on Today > Go to Items Tab.
2. Uncheck TouchFLO 3d and click OK.
3. Do step 1 and 2 agian but then Check TouchFLO 3D.
4. Soft reset.
Done
tried that but it didn't work for me.
Just removed TomTom 7 & SPB Backup and now it seems to start up fine....
That's a bit of a shame, because TomTom and backup are very helpfull apps...
ive had similar issues but only when trying to customise manila theme. kept saying launching touchflo but nothing happens and then reverts to saying tap here to launch manila. if any of the programs you are adding or any of the customisations you are making involve messing with manila then you will have issues! once hard spl is out then all these things wont be an issue any more.
same problem here, don't try to change startmenu things (standaard startmenu/small startmenu, extra rows etc).
If I enable the extra program tab the buttons won't work most of the time.
The stability of the TP2 is not so good yet, hope that there will be a fix or update for it or a very good custom rom from a good chef.
me 2
I have experienced it twice. I got TF running again by unchecking TF3d in the items screen of the today settings, shutting the TP2 down by pressing the on/of switch some seconds, then restarting ,rechecking TF3D and shutting down once more. This has the same effect as a soft reset, only the system is disconnected longer. So perhaps taking the battery out works as well.
I think this problem is there because TF3D is so much integrated in WM 6.1. So the chance of apps interfering with it is pretty big. I hope with WM 6.5, they remove the big menus's (since they are there already in WM 6.5) and other stuff. Just to get more memmory back, and to make TF3D more compatible with other apps. (still waiting for my TP2)
Error no longer happens
Hi Guys,
I found out that mine was being affected by an old copy of IGO 8 that I was trying to install, since I've upgraded to the new version the TF3D issue has completely vanished.
I noticed that when the TF3D failed it was after a period of low memory or high CPU useage, perhaps using some software that isnt compatible with the TP2 is causing TF3D to screw up.
it's just a theory at the mo... can anyone else share their experiences?
Guys,
this is the third thread about this subject. I have the same problem. HTC is not aware about this problem and encourages those who HAVE these issues to call them. Calling is free...
please do so in order to get rid if this massive bug!
I have been doing some investigation of my own on this one.
I have SPB Backup installed which reboots my phone every night and found that TF3D would not start. Even after a few reboots it would not start. Removed it tried again still an issue.
Hard reset and still was getting some issues.
After alot of rebooting etc I found that if you have a pin enabled on your SIM card TF3D has issues on startup.
No PIN and all is fine.
With that in mind I have just left the phone lock on for now until a fix is found for the bug by HTC
hi, please contact HTC with your findings. if they dont know, they cant fix. calling is free.
thought i disabled my PIN and the problem still persists. although i had a "loading..." once. but it didnt load...
I have contacted HTC about this. I am awaiting a reply from them about the issue.
I had the same problem when installing the .cab to remove the bottom curtain. Soft resets, unchecking and checking TouchFlo3D didn't work. I then reinstalled the .cab and the TouchFlo3D also came back.
Perhaps that will work for you too? Try reinstalling the last program after the problems has occured?
I have the same problem, and i did notice that after uninstalling an application it usually works again. The strange this is that it looks like it is not a specific application that I need to uninstall. It could be a cab for a different clock or tab icons or an g-sensor app, or probably any other app.
Strange .....
Hmz, I soft resetted my TP2 and found out that the TF3D again didn't start. Had to re-install the "Bottom Curtain Remover.cab", soft reset and then it started again.
Looks like ahlung has a point in saying that it doesn't look like it's a specific application that needs to be uninstalled / reinstalled.
It can also be affected by file read errors, including files on the SD Card, if you have corrupt files on the SD Card, this can cause TF to not launch and even lock the device.
Cheers,
Beasty
Same problem here!
I also contacted HTC and told them the issue. They suggested me to do a hard reset! If I couldn't think to do it by myself!
===============UPDATE==============
The application was the SPB Fullscreen Keyboard v4.11 that was the culprit, verified over 3 hard resets that this is the offending program.
I hope this saves anyone else from going through the grief I have suffered. I completely forgot to include it on my list below so I am glad I had the patience to test one more time. (I ussualy forget to install it, then go to txt message or something and install it).
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I am pretty much at wits end here and am preparing to return this huge lump of crap to the store. It seems that if I install "pretty much anything" and NOT use the touch-flo garbage... the phone will work great.... until i need or want to soft-reset it....
then the logo comes up, the ROM/RADIO numbers, and then the screen turns black, to never come on again.
Having worked for Sprint for 5 years, and moreover having built my own custom roms at PPCGeeks for 2 years I feel that I have a pretty good grip on the ins & outs of windows mobile.
I have NO clue what is going on with this phone.
I have three of them in my possession. It happens on all three.
I install each application, ONE-AT-A-TIME, soft reset after every single install, its fine. I wait a day or so, soft reset... SURPRISE you gotta redo your phone.
I have narrowed it down to a few programs that *may* be the cause of my irritation...
-Phonealarm (overrides the notifications...???)
-Ptravelalarm (and three other alarm programs) notification flaw???
-Memmaid (deals with notifications...???)
I dont expect anyone to know the answer, maybe someone else is having this issue (i hate Touch-Flo) and is trying to install programs to make the handset usable from the today-screen.
I am going to list my installed programs, and maybe, just maybe, someone smarter than myself can pinpoint the culprit.
-batti 2.4
-calendar plus
-sbp fullscreen keyboard 4.11
-google maps 3.21 (never GPS locks btw)
-iContact 95
-phonealarm 2.30
-pTravelalarm 2.81
-Resco File Explorer 7.05
-rlToday v22b
Thats it, thats all i use on my phone, im a creature of simplicity. On the todayscreen i have phonealarm, rltoday, ptravelalarm, calander+
I went to the forums for both phonealarm & memmaid, and there doesnt seem to be any threads with my issue. ptravelalarm has no support, but I have tried g-alarm, gsalarm & poweralarm, and they all seem to fail as well.
Again I cant narrow it down to a single application because after an install and reset it works fine. Its like "after the program simmers" that it wants to "Black-Screen" the phone.
I am 100% sure that a custom ROM will alleviate all of my issues as I am using all of those programs on a 6800 and a 6900, with WM 6.1 & WM 6.5 respectively.
They even work on the stock roms for both handsets....
Any ideas? How far out is the HARD-SPL? I have about 3 weeks left before I have to return these things.
Thank you for reading, and any help that may be forthcoming.
I'm having the exact same issue, it's very frustrating to pay $400+ for a phone only to have it blackscreen of death you every time you try to boot it up. Touchflo seems nice but it just adds extra button presses to what should be straightforward tasks. I hope things turn around but right now I'm not impressed.