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Messenger / Windows Live - Contacts sooo annoying!

Fellow xda people...
I'm a ms messenger addict, well I like it anyway and I've been looking forward to using it on my vario over uk T-mobile web'n'walk...I'm running black 2.5 so now I have the "windows live" thing on my today screen and I'm signed in...
thing is, seems to work...but i CANT STAND the way it insists on putting all my MSN contacts into my contact list! Does this annoy anyone else? Anyone found any clever work arounds?
Typical of microsoft trying to integrate an app and take over the whole machine - horrible?
cheers
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its so annoying...almost makes me want to use a different messenger client?

using black 2.0. cannot sign windows live from yesterday until now. it said no internet connectivity but i am connected with gprs and also wifi. can surf net also. it the mobile server different from the desktop?

I'm talking about the contacts in particular....

anyone else use messenger - windows live....polluting my contacts !

I had the same problem when I first used the live messenger beta a few months back. The final version does have the "sync contacts" optionality but as you say it still syncs them and creates duplicates and rubbish!
The only work around I found was to use outlook to copy and paste all the relevant info from the original contacts details into the new contacts created by messenger and then deleting the old one. This then avoids the duplication next time you flash and set up live.

unwired4 said:
The only work around I found was to use outlook to copy and paste all the relevant info from the original contacts details into the new contacts created by messenger and then deleting the old one. This then avoids the duplication next time you flash and set up live.
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That seems to work the best for me, I don't have to many contact and it wasnt that hard for me to delete them all and put them back in again - when you do this it asks what sort of contact you want - I think MS should have included a wizard that goes through your contacts when you first install them asking if you want Outlook, Contacts List and/or Messenger for each contact.
Another problem I found was everytime it synced from phone to computer, it would change my Messenger contacts, I found that if you edit the contact in Windows Messenger and make sure the name info is the same as what is one the phone has stored, it solves this problem, my contacts sync OK now.

I have the same issue, so i just reverted to using Pocket MSN...

Someone posted a workaround in the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1236933&postcount=22
Don't know if it's working since I didn't have time to install Live Messenger and try it out. Can someone try it?

My Workaround ...
Yeah,
I had the exact same problem. And i have HEAPS of contacts both messenger and outlook ... and of course ... i'm ridiculously anal about having everything exactly perfect ... so i fixed my contacts and reinstalled my phone ... hah
What i found worked for me, was before syncing the first time, make sure that you have outlook contacts corresponding to the email addresses of your messenger contacts. (ie: if windows live messenger sees you have an outlook contact with the same email address, it will just attach the msn display pic etc to that contact.
- Phixx

cheers for this...infuriating !
I have now taken the route one approach...deleted all the daft MS Messenger contacts and removed Windows Live from my today screen (I would delete it if I could)....Hope I never see it again!

The best way to deal with it is to make sure all of your contacts in MS Live have contact entries in Outlook. It sucks, but once you have all of your contacts sync'd up, it's pretty cool: you can see people's online status anywhere you see their contact info on the phone.

BTW; no matter what route you take, you MUST back up your Live contacts and your Outlook contacts on your PC. Seriously. Do it now. I made the mistake of not doing that, and during one of my many reloads, I somehow managed to wipe out my entire Outlook contacts list *and* my Windows Live contact list. It was not a fun day restoring that.
Go to Contacts->Save instant messenging contacts in Windows Live on your PC.

yeah, but i don't want my instant messenger stuff anywhere near my contacts...to me it's a separate app! (or it should be) MS trying to be too clever by half.

What would be nice is if it put the messenger emails in contacts under "emails" Ie personal / business and email catogries.
It really is quite annoying when sifting through the contact list to find a phone number and having to sift through 100's of mail addresses too.
Of course I do try to use the smart dialing but they still come up.
Just having to do these work arounds every reinstall / HR e.t.c is tedious at best.

LeoBadhan said:
I have the same issue, so i just reverted to using Pocket MSN...
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I want to do the same thing, only I can't find the install for pocket MSN, the only one I could find was on the MS site where you have to pay for it.. it came with my TyTN so I don't want to pay MS another €15 for it!
Can you please provide me the install file? whether it is in PM or in the thread
Thanks alot man

I quite like the way it works.. It's a little bit annoying if you have contacts who have really messed up their details online so that it can't link them to a phone contact, but other than that I really like it.
It would be nice if there was an advanced sync option where you could somehow pair orphan people on MSN to people in contacts on the phone so that it was aware they were the same person.. but I'm not gonna complain too much.

or just give you an option to turn it off.

I'm having an absolute nightmare with this!
I really like the idea in concept and want it to work.
I deleted the contacts it added to my phone adress book cos it looked messy not realising that when I sync'd with my PC it would delete them all (85) from messenger!
So I started re adding my msn contacts being careful to also have a corresponding Outlook contact and all was going well. I was getting them linked up nicely. Now all of a sudden, they've all gone again from my MSN on my PC!
I want this feature to work, I don't simply want to turn it off as some of you have done. How should I go about this?

Yes, me too.. There are nice features in Live messenger for WM, like showing display picture, voiceclip, sending files, pictures, etc, but this contacts problem is so darn annoying! I wish some wizzguy could look into a hack or solution
Greetz.

Windows live messenger help

Hello,
Is there anyway to stop Windows Live Messenger contacts being added to your phone contacts. I have tried going to Windows Live, select 'menu' and go to 'Options > 2 Sync options' and disable the option for sync contacts, But then when I go to sign in to Live messenger it tells me that it will sync my contacts to my contact lists.
Thanks

Anyone got any ideas for this problem

Hello,
I ahad this problem...But, when you install window live messenger, it ask you : "Add your MSN's contact in your mobile's contact", remove it. (I hope that you understood!!)

I understand what you mean, splodger15. I think it's kind of stupid idea that we have to sync all fkin contacts to our phone. I tried to disable it but , as you said, it seems like no way to do that. I don't think I need all msn messenger's contacts on our phone 'cos I use Window Live Messenger just to chat with my friends. so I don't need all fkin 500+ emails to be on my phone. for this reason, I prefer Pocket MSN to WLM, though WLM has more features than PMSN.
let's see what I got....
- My phone is Dopod D810 with WM6 rom and I love it.
- I tried to delete a WLM contact on my phone while I had WLM online. it was totally gone so I had to add my friend back again.
- I tried again, had WLM offline, deleted all 500 emails, and online again. I got nothing on WLM's contact list but......a second later, all email had synced and appeared on my phone's contacts again.
- if you know anything new, please let me know. I would appreciate it.
Good luck and happy holidays..........

Get MSN email on my phone.

Hey guys. For the past couple of months ive been trying to find a solution to this problem and its been driving me absolutely crazy. I have my email @msn.com and its been there for the past 8 years. It would be EXTREMELY inconvenient to change it to somewhere else. Well anyway, i want to be able to check my email from my phone, and be notified when a new message comes in. So i tried to set it up using the Mobile outlook, but apparently msn email isnt compatible with it(which i find to be one of the stupidest things ever). So then i thought to forward all my msn email to a gmail account or something, but msn only allows you to forward email to another msn or hotmail account. So then i found the Windows Mobile Live program, which i gotta say sucks to all hell, but apparently works with msn email so i thought id give it a try. Turns out though that my internet connection (the tmobile proxy hack which only allows me to use port 8080) doesnt work, and theres no way to change the port for Mobile Live. I was hoping someone out there might have a solution or an idea. Thanks in advance.

molesaied88 said:
Hey guys. For the past couple of months ive been trying to find a solution to this problem and its been driving me absolutely crazy. I have my email @msn.com and its been there for the past 8 years. It would be EXTREMELY inconvenient to change it to somewhere else. Well anyway, i want to be able to check my email from my phone, and be notified when a new message comes in. So i tried to set it up using the Mobile outlook, but apparently msn email isnt compatible with it(which i find to be one of the stupidest things ever). So then i thought to forward all my msn email to a gmail account or something, but msn only allows you to forward email to another msn or hotmail account. So then i found the Windows Mobile Live program, which i gotta say sucks to all hell, but apparently works with msn email so i thought id give it a try. Turns out though that my internet connection (the tmobile proxy hack which only allows me to use port 8080) doesnt work, and theres no way to change the port for Mobile Live. I was hoping someone out there might have a solution or an idea. Thanks in advance.
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http://info.mobile.msn.com/en-us/default.aspx

thats not a program, but a webpage through pocket IE. The problem with that, besides the fact that it sucks, is that it wont automatically download new messages and give alerts. i was hoping for a program based kind of thing. thanks anyway though

Running WM 6.1. Where did the email go?

Hi,
I am running Ricky's v24 WM 6.1. I use EasySync to sync with my Lotus Notes contact, calendar, todo, and email. Everyday, i get this alert from "DontForget" indicating that I have 26 unread email. The email reader in the sliding panel indicates 0 mail.
I'd imagine Outlook email downloaded via ActiveSync would be in similar situation, in case you don't use Notes.
Any suggestions on what I can use to read, or just get rid of the email downloaded via sync? I've changed the EasySync setting so it no longer downloads email.
Many thanks!

the sliding panel will show you how many new emails you have. Once you acces the email page that will disappear; this does not mean you have read all the emails. You may have unread emails in your folder and that may cause "Don't forget" to give you a message. Look through all your emails and look for the ones that show that they havent been read.
Hopefully that helps.

what application can I use to read the email?
rydr1 said:
the sliding panel will show you how many new emails you have. Once you acces the email page that will disappear; this does not mean you have read all the emails. You may have unread emails in your folder and that may cause "Don't forget" to give you a message. Look through all your emails and look for the ones that show that they havent been read.
Hopefully that helps.
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Thank you for the reply! The problem is, I don't know what application I can use to read the email. I normally rely on the sliding panel to take me to the email application, but in this case, it only tells me the there is no MMS message. Any suggestions on which program to run? Or where is the folder?
thanks, again!

if you can get to SMS or MMS just move the D pad to the right or left till it shows emails.

anewbie said:
Thank you for the reply! The problem is, I don't know what application I can use to read the email. I normally rely on the sliding panel to take me to the email application, but in this case, it only tells me the there is no MMS message. Any suggestions on which program to run? Or where is the folder?
thanks, again!
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I've had this problem before, where one of my options in my sliding panels is inaccessible. Try restarting the phone and see if e-mail is accessible after that.

Does any software to sync Lotus Notes with WM6.1
I am seriously considering buying the HTC Touch Diamond, which runs on WM6.1. My company uses Lotus Notes. It is a show stopper if I can't see my email on this device. When I talked to Easy Sync yesterday, they tried to get me to buy something to load on my server at work, which obviously is not the same as the basic Easy Sync software. M-Notes doesn't seem to have anything either. Any other suggestions?

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I am seriously considering buying the HTC Touch Diamond, which runs on WM6.1. My company uses Lotus Notes. It is a show stopper if I can't see my email on this device. When I talked to Easy Sync yesterday, they tried to get me to buy something to load on my server at work, which obviously is not the same as the basic Easy Sync software. M-Notes doesn't seem to have anything either. Any other suggestions?
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there is an app called mnotes made by commontime. there is a trial version of it so you can try before you buy. i dont think on the server side you need additional software. if you dont have a phone with 6.1, all i can suggest is to find a buddy that does and let him test it on your lotus server. the software does run on wm6, so im pretty certain it wont be an issue on 6.1. i realize im a complete stranger, but if all else fails, let me know and i can test it against your server.

Facebook Application problem

Hi all
I've a problem with my integrated facebook applikation from HTC. It shows me every time an "Connection failed"-Error message when i'll login. This Problem occurs with WI-FI and Edge.
Greez
Patrick

Facebook
I have the exact same problem, I would appreciate a solution

i know this doesn't fix your problem but just to confirm I have no issues on my TP2 so it must be a connection config problem.
Have you gone to settings>connections>connections>advanced and selected the proper networks?

Facebook
Thanks but i have no conection issue I have push mail working fine and RSS hub also updating. i tried over wifi 3g gprs everythingworks exept facebook

Same problem here.
Mail, rss, weather, browser work. Facebook app doesn't.
Using a Dutch ROM

i have noticed it has not downloaded the images of all my friends... now irrespective of the fact that it updates status msgs, photos are not downloaded for all.... it pulls some photos of friends down at times.... any way i can sync all the photos too?

ok... let me just answer my own question...
simply delink any one contact and re click link the contact with FB.... this brings the link profiles page up... wait there for sometime till the application downloads all the photos.... that's it... u r done!

mirage22 said:
ok... let me just answer my own question...
simply delink any one contact and re click link the contact with FB.... this brings the link profiles page up... wait there for sometime till the application downloads all the photos.... that's it... u r done!
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yup was my experience as well

nope.. it did not update any photographs post names starting with the letter c...
dunno why the program does not completely download all the photographs....
i even tried going to individual contacts and clicking on update photo but it has not worked...
any experts...

does someone know a better hack to synchronise the photos?

ok... i downloaded fonebook and let it do the integration... forget the htc app!

ok... i downloaded fonebook and let it do the integration... forget the htc app!

I am having the same problem. Got my TP2 today and can't get the Facebook Application or Microsoft MyPhone to communicate. I have the network connections all set correctly and everything preinstalled works fine.
Did someone mention you should untick the proxy server setting??

Anyone find a solution to this yet??? I'm having the same problem.. Thanks!

Don't know if it is a coincidence but after I removed/disabled my facebook login data from Skyfire I didn't get a connection error anymore. I granted Skyfire to be logged in even after closing it and maybe then facebook is locked for other apps.

Solution
I found a solution for my problem with the facebook-connection. It seems the application can't handle my password. It contains the folowing symbols: "?&".
I changed my facebook password to letters & numbers only and now it works.

I found another problem. I have tried this a few times and even did a hard reset to my device.
The facebook Update and Events function crashes Manila.exe everytime if you have 63 contacts linked to facebook contacts. It won't crash it if you have 62 or 64 links but only 63.
To replicate this, all you need to do is:
1. Have 63 contacts linked to facebook profiles.
2. Click update now from People->All People->3rd Tab(person with a clock)->Menu->Update Now.
It will tries to update but it will fail and crash. I had to delete one of my links so it won't crash anymore. More over, I added more links to test if it can't handle more than 62 links but it can.
Really don't understand why it can't handle the number 63. It really pisses me off now that I have to remove a link or I have to find a friend that I can link to on facebook.
Anyway, I thought I will share this with you guys, just in case yours crashes because you have 63 links.

"Facebook Login failed"-Problem solved.
You have to change your Facebook login password to a easier one. It's seems to be a problem, if you use special chars. +:%>)*/+=^ etc. in your password.

Just a question about this: does anybody knows if the application erases existing picstures with the facebook ones ?
I have pics for soem of my friends who are also on facebook and want to keep the oens I have at the moment on my outlook... And dont anna run the risk of running the sync and losing them
Does the app propose to keep the existing ones selectively ?

Hi
I hadn't had any pictures in my Outlook contacts, but the HTC Facebookapp replaced my Windows Live contact images in my adressbook.