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See http://www.pielframa.com/promo_jasjar.htm
Only problem is that it would appear there is no belt clip
Nice!!
That's the first good case I've seen!
Looks professional and easy to use. Its a bit expensive to order it yet.
But that's the case I'm going to get for my MDA Pro
The missing belt-clip makes this case useless for me .. i want one with a belt clip !!!
- Superbowl
A beltclip is necessary for me, too. Without this function the standard MDA Pro case is OK with me. I think a case like the standard for the magician would be perfect for me - belt clip an quick release...
looks awesome, dunno that i'd trust having the pda open and the cover shut as those storage cards in the case get a tad close to the screen for my liking!
Flubster
There is not any plan at piel frama to add belt clip , i sent an e-mail to piel frama & they reply :
Regarding the belt clip, we have to inform you that due to the weight of the device and the design of the case, we cannot instal a belt clip on this new leather case. The clip would not stand the weight of the device on the belt. Besides, if we would instal a belt clip on the case, the functionality of the case would not be the intended one as the user would not be able to use the device with the belt clip on it.
We are sure that you will understand this situation and will agree that the belt clip is not a good idea for this model.
Please, do not hesitate to contact us if you need further assistance.
Very best regards and have a nice day!!
I just bought the Piel Frama case. The leather feels good but there is one design flaw. It has a strip of leather on top of the keyboard. With it my PDA cannot close properly. I am so afraid to damage the hinges on my new toy. If you have any ideas to modify this problem please let me know.
If anybody wants to buy my Piel Frama case for JASJAR please let me know. I live in Hong Kong
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I just bought the Piel Frama case. The leather feels good but there is one design flaw. It has a strip of leather on top of the keyboard. With it my PDA cannot close properly. I am so afraid to damage the hinges on my new toy. If you have any ideas to modify this problem please let me know.
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You can cut the strip on top, near costures... I have one and no damage on JJ...
I am also very tempted to cut the strip of leather. But I was thinking if you do, after awhile the whole JASJAR might just fall out. Its really a pain to see such a nice case go to waste.
I was going to cut the leather strip as well. It does not seem like this is really what is holding it in so there would not be much harm in cutting it so that the device could fully close.
Can someone who did this post pics and say if it makes an improvement?
Cutting the case
Why are you guys cutting the case? Pielframa should replace the faulty cases. In the past they have replaced cases whithout the need to send back your faulty cases. Most people buy them from outside Spain. Sending it back internationally could be a pain. In the past when they released the first batch of the ipaq iPAQ H6340 cases, these cases were also faulty (it does not fit well). They did not recall the cases, but replaced them.
By the way the Pielframa issue is also mentioned on another thread. See
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=183962#183962
Maybe they've changed their policies on replacements. As you stated, I don't want to mess with a 2-3 week turnaround from sending from the USA and back to Spain.
Here is what I got from Piel Frama:
Thank you very much for your email and for your kind words about our products.
We are sorry to hear that you are having problems with the case. In fact, some of our customers have informed us that they are having some problems to close the device. Our craftsmen have been thinking about it and they have thought about a solution which would be to take the thin strap over the keyboard from the case so that the problem will be solved and the device will close without problems.
So that, we would ask you to ship the case back to us by regular mail and we would modify it the case. Our postal address is the following one:
PIEL FRAMA
Avda. Fuente San Francisco S/Nº
P. I. "LA PIEL"
11600 Ubrique (Cádiz)
Spain
Once we get it, we will make this modification in the case and we will ship it back to you.
If its a matter of just cutting out the back leather strip, I can do that myself instead of dealing with a 2-3 week turnaround not to mention the mailing costs in addition to costs that I've already paid, to mail it to them.
It is not very customer friendly. Pielframe cases are certainly not cheap. A standard (i.e. not crocodile or ostrich) Jasjar case cost at least 70 euro's about 87 $. So we should expect good quality and good working cases. If a case is faulty which could damage the jasjar / MDA Pro then they are liable for that. So having customers to spend more money (time and shipping cost) to have it fix does not really make sense.
My Piel Frama case just arrived this morning (ordered on 2 Nov.). I was excitied because my normally they have great products. The leather is nice, but I have to report the problem mentioned above is worse than I imagined.
With my case, the leather strap across the top of the keyboard prevents the screen from closing by about 8mm!
I can not even snap-close the case because the screen sticks up so high --even if I apply pressure.
So, my case is completely unusable. I wonder if they had real Universal units during the design process, or if they just worked form published specs.
Back to Piel Frama.
I was visiting Piel Frama Factory. They have an I-Mate JASJAS to probe the cases. I have a cocodrile leather case and my JASJAR close well. You can see my blog (click in my firm or www) ... and will see, in last picture, the Piel Frama's JasJar.
Have Fun
my word of advice is don't use the case unless you do something about it. after 2 days of using my piel frama case I removed it and notice that the hinge is quite loose. previously the joints were tight, right now when I move the screen portion there is a clicking sound and it is coming from the joints. piel frama case has damaged my toy instead of protecting it. I just cut away the top portion leather that is above the keyboard. I don't care about sending it back, anyway what can they do when the design itself is flawed.
I did expect a little more than just "send the case back to us", but I guess that is the way customer service has gotten these days. Fortunately, I purchased my case from a reseller in the US and only paid $54 but still expected better from Piel Frama.
This bad press isn't going to be helping them sell many cases, because most of us hear about these things through forums such as this one.
Does cutting away the back leather strap appear to make a difference when closing the Universal now? I'm ready to start hacking mine!
yes , cutting it off does help quite bit, its much better now. however it will not completely close because there are still 2 more pieces of leather at the side. what I did was that I used a clamp for about 15 mins both sides. it looks ok much better than before. a few guys on this forum has also done so. afterall the machin is more precious than the case
greatestkelvin said:
yes , cutting it off does help quite bit, its much better now. however it will not completely close because there are still 2 more pieces of leather at the side. what I did was that I used a clamp for about 15 mins both sides. it looks ok much better than before. a few guys on this forum has also done so. afterall the machin is more precious than the case
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Hmm ... cutting the back stip off lowers the lid just a little. Cosmetically, the appearance is nicer with the strap. There's still some pressure on the back hinge when you snap the case closed. But, it looks to me like the top lid of the jj is flexing a little and like closing the lid is depressing the remaining leather on the sides that's causing problems. This pressure on the lid bothers me, but I'm not sure it will damage the hinge on my jj. I'm going to think about this more before deciding whether to return it to Frama.
I had, and still have, a slight clicking sound when closing the lid. This clicking sound isn't there at all if I pull the lid closed from the right side. But, it is there if I pull the lid closed from the left side. The swivel mechanism is rotated slightly counterclockwise and that is why right vs. left side pulling down of the lid causes no clicking vs. clicking.
This is not to say that the Frama case couldn't cause hinge problems for some. I don't think it would for me ... but I'm reluctant to snap the case shut now until I investigate further.
Hi,
What case do people recommend to keep their Orbit safe? I'm stuck between the Krussell (which I have protected phones with before) , a silicon case (ebay item number 160068404562) or PDA Leather Flip Case (ebay 160068463414).
I'm tempted for the silicon as you still have easy access to the screen , but welcome any other ideas.
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I'm tempted for the silicon as you still have easy access to the screen , but welcome any other ideas.
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Before reading your question, I was not aware of the existance of a silicon case for this model. Now I've looked it up at Ebay and am also interested. A couple of months ago I bought a silicon case for my mp3 player (different brand though, ZCover) and am very pleased with it. So far however, the seller seems only to ship within the UK. I have just asked him by email if he is able to ship abroad, no answer yet.
Update: he does sell abroad. Apparently he has more than one item on Ebay, all about this case but with different shipping methods. Anyway, I just ordered a black silicon case, due to arrive later this week. I will let you know.
hi
i have the PDAIR flip case and am very pleased with it. i prefer it to a silicon type as it gives the screen more protection.
I agree that a flip case does give more protection, especially to the screen, but isn't it annoying when actually making a call? I presume you don't take the phone out of the case before calling. To me it looks rather silly. NOFI.
Have a look for the aluminium (on ebay, under artemis/p3300) case for the artemis as I have just ordered one and hope it is a good fit for the orbit?
Not massively protective but the slipcase supplied with the 8oGB ipod is a perfect fit. I'm using it just now to avoid scratches until i find a good screen protector and silicon case.
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Have a look for the aluminium (on ebay, under artemis/p3300) case for the artemis as I have just ordered one and hope it is a good fit for the orbit?
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has your aluminiun case arrived, How much extra bulk does it add, as I'm thinking of getting one. I already have a black silicone case which is very good, and a very tight snug fit, but no protection for the screen. If the aluminium one is not to big, then I would sell my silicone case.
Yes my aluminium case came through the same day as my last post and it does not add much bulk to the device. The only issue I have had with it is the stylus is covered slightly so to remove it you have to open the case and slide the phone up slightly. Apart from that great case would recommend highly to all those in need of a case. My case came in a Pdair box so I assume it is made by them?
I also have the leather PDAIR flip case and my only criticism is that it extends a little to much toward the sides of the base of the screen so that I must angle the stylus a bit at the edges.
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I already have a black silicone case which is very good, and a very tight snug fit, but no protection for the screen. If the aluminium one is not to big, then I would sell my silicone case.
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I just had a look at the aluminium cases sold on Ebay but they don't seem to have protection for the screen as well? How is that different then?
Just like you, I ordered a silicon case last week and it arrived a couple of days later. I'm pleased with it, pretty tight fit, better grip, no chance anymore of scratching the camera lens when the phone is on it's back, and all the required openings are exactly on the right spot. Indeed, the only thing left is the absence of protection for the screen, but I don't carry the phone in a pocket together with keys or coins.
The aluminium case has a plastic screen in it to protect the orbit. You have to open the front cover to use the touch screen.
All of which is not a problem as I would advise anyone with a phone of this quality to purchase a screen protector ASAP.
I didn't use my orbit till my protector came through the post.
Hi All
I spoke to the lady in the O2 shop in Swindon about cases, she said that O2 will be releasing some Orbit specific ones in the next couple of weeks.
I have my fingers crossed.
Rich
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I didn't use my orbit till my protector came through the post.
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The slightly scratched, fingerprint smeared and dusty state of my just-over-a-week-old Orbit screen would probably give you a heart attack then! Screen protectors don't come cheap, £10 for little sheets of sticky plastic... selotape is under £1 a roll! I'll just use some of that!
Has anyone on their internet travels come across a vertical leather pouch/holster for the Artemis that has a belt clip?
Something like this:
http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=21740
Just want something that can be attached to a belt and the Artemis slid into and out of - not for use in the actual case.
Must be vertical and minimal size (ie designed for the Artemis and no larger).
Krusell Vertica with Multidapt® - S-Wide
Selotape aside I'll almost certainly be going for http://www.pielframa.net/pielframa_productos.asp?id=1685 (mentioned on the other case thread) if I ever bother getting a case... can't beat something made-to-measure!
Just got myself a Piel Farama in black for my Jasjam. Looks very good and high quality but certainly requires getting a bit used to as each time you have to open the flap and fold it all the way back to get a hold of the device to take or make a call.
regards
Thanks Moleshome - that is exactly what I am looking for except my only concern (as with all "multi" cases) is that it will not fit it nicely and/or be the smallest possible case for the dimensions of the p3300. I can't think it fits all of the listed "compatible" models perfectly and I don't know if the Artemis would be in that category.
Anyone bought this particular case? Experiences?
Got my Piel Frama case today - it fits the Orbit well despite being designed for the P3300 (sharper corners).
Overall a beautifully crafted case which I will probably return as it won't let me store a credit card in the flap. My last case for the XDA Mini was a Krusell - hope they bring out an Orbit sepcific case soon....
strongp said:
Overall a beautifully crafted case which I will probably return as it won't let me store a credit card in the flap. My last case for the XDA Mini was a Krusell - hope they bring out an Orbit sepcific case soon....
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No good for spontanous gprs internet shopping on the go then?
I dropped an email to see if I could get one for review, fingers crossed otherwise I'll have to fork over some mulah or see what my birthday holds. (I've been a games/tech journalist for a while, which is nice)
Would be interesting to get a comparison of the Krusell and Piel cases, and maybe something a bit more on the minimalistic size. I'll see what I can do, but neither are contacts I've dealt with before.
Has anyone tried the aluminium case for universal? Will appreciate user opinion as I intend to go for one.
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Has anyone tried the aluminium case for universal? Will appreciate user opinion as I intend to go for one.
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I'd also be interested in the answer to this, please!
I have an aluminum case for my vodafone v1640, I find that its ok although a bit of a pain when you're using the phone. Also you can't open it flat when you are charging it. But I can put up with that as I like the protection it gives what is an expensive bit of kit.
Triptych said:
I have an aluminum case for my vodafone v1640, I find that its ok although a bit of a pain when you're using the phone. Also you can't open it flat when you are charging it. But I can put up with that as I like the protection it gives what is an expensive bit of kit.
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Thanks. That counts it out for me.
I got a new aluminium case of flea bay for 99p + p&p of course.
I got it to protect my MDA Pro as I carry it in a work bag, its versatile as it opens flat (unless you have ear phones or usb plugged in), the case grips the keyboard part of the PPC but not the screen so you can twist the screen either way without hassle and. All the buttons round the edge of the ppc are accessable even when the case is closed, there are holes cut out for the camera & flash, but you can not see the whole of the display with the screen flipped and the lid of the case closed.
Aluminium case too heavy for the belt clip
I have used an aluminium case for a while because it seemed very practical, I have worn it with its belt clip. The problem was that the case was too heavy for the plastic belt clip and one day it suddenly broke at the weakest point. There was no mechanical impact, one part of the plastic simply peeled off from the other one and the case felt down.
Thank you all. I have made up my mind. Basically I am looking for protection. I am presently using an unbranded leather case with non removable belt clip. As I keep my exec in the pocket the clip is bit of an inconvenience as the exec can not be kept flat on a surface without removing the case!
I don't know what it's like for you guys around the world, but certainly in UK the accessories are awful, especially the case... couldn't believe after buying such an expensive unit, that's the best they could come up with!
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I don't know what it's like for you guys around the world, but certainly in UK the accessories are awful, especially the case... couldn't believe after buying such an expensive unit, that's the best they could come up with!
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It is the same here and the ads are quite misleading. Very often the material supplied is not what is shown in pictures. Unfortunately, the choice here is also very limited.
Hi guys,
Just got my Orbit and need to choose a case for it before I use it as its cost a lot of £££ and I want to keep it looking nice.
I'm looking for a case that:
- is small, light and snug fitting so doesn't detract from nice Orbit size / shape
- good protection from knocks and the occasional drop
- easy to get the orbit in and out for when using sat nav in cradle
- looks good
- protects from dirt
- protects the screen when not in use
- still access wi-fi, stylus, ports etc
For those reasons I have discounted the silicon cases and have plumped for either the Krussell leather case (from ebay @ £10 - are they real or fakes?) or the aluminium case...
Both are similar prices, so I am really looking for people have tried one or both for advice on which case best meets the needs above...
Cheers
GK
gk141054 said:
Hi guys,
Just got my Orbit and need to choose a case for it before I use it as its cost a lot of £££ and I want to keep it looking nice.
I'm looking for a case that:
- is small, light and snug fitting so doesn't detract from nice Orbit size / shape
*A SILICON CASE
- good protection from knocks and the occasional drop
*A ALUMINUM CASE
- easy to get the orbit in and out for when using sat nav in cradle
* ALUMINUM CASE
- looks good
*NO CASE
- protects from dirt
*SANDWICH BAG
- protects the screen when not in use
* ALUMINUM CASE AGAIN
- still access wi-fi, stylus, ports etc
*NO CASE
For those reasons I have discounted the silicon cases and have plumped for either the Krussell leather case (from ebay @ £10 - are they real or fakes?) or the aluminium case...
Both are similar prices, so I am really looking for people have tried one or both for advice on which case best meets the needs above...
Cheers
GK
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Aluminum case = 3 points
Silicon case = 1 point
No case = 1 point
Sandwich bag = 1 point
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Aluminum case = 3 points
Silicon case = 1 point
No case = 1 point
Sandwich bag = 1 point
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lol, brilliant! i have a Aluminium Case for my MDACIII which looks great (until it gets scratched ) but is a bit fiddely at times...
Thanks NM8 but I have kind of discounted the sandwich bag and silicon case option.... its def either leather or aluminium...
Think I might just have to get one and give it a try and see what its like... then i'll have to re-sell and buy the other if the first is rubbish!
I actually use a Black Aluminium case for my Artemis which is nice and looks great. Tjhere are so many versions I have the PDAir brand which I think is the best cosmetically (design).
The only problem with it is when I am sending SMS. Because Im right handed, the front of the case gets in the way when opened so I cant use single hand to compose SMS.
Otherwise its a brilliant piece of protection!
I use the silicon case and it's perfect for my needs. I broke one of my pdas because it fell out of my shirt pocket when I picked something up from the floor. The display broke and I had to buy a new one. The silicon case is a little bit sticky. The protection is not the best if you really drop but it's not as bulky as other cases, I have my pda in my pants most of the time. Leater or aluminium would make it too bukly.
Cheers mate, got a silicon case for my K800i and whilst its my preferred option for that phone (along with a screen protector) I wouldn't have one for my Orbit as there is nothing to protect the touch screen...
Still looking for opinions from people who have the aluminium or leather cases what they think...
I have a Krussel, it is good and comes with a belt clip as standard. It has a few drawbacks the worst I guess it that if you use the dashboard hanger the flap falls down over the screen! Other than that it is great! The stiffener in the flap really does protect the screen when it is closed though.
Update... after much thinking and surfing cases i'm considering are:
Case 1 Looks a bit cheap and nasty but I like the style.....
Case 2 - Looks a lot nicer version of the above and seems to have better cut outs on the back. Think this is my fave....
Krussell case - looks nice but most expensive...
Any thoughts appreciated... especially from anyone who has any of the above....
PLUS - not sure whether to go for "book" type opening or "flip up".
Decided against the aluminium case after watching the youtube review and they said you can't get the stylus out without taking it out of the case....
I have been using the Pdair Aluminium case for over 12 months, and believe me it has saved my Artemis on a number of occasions, I have put an Orbit into it and the more rounded corners do indeed hinder the stylus removal, but for protection I would put up with the inconveniance - I have both a silver and Black case, the silver one is like new as I have not used it too often, the black one looks like it has seen a fair bit of service but the Artemis is still like new (thankfully) - probably the best £15 I have spent on a case in a very long time to be honest - Mike
Has anybody come across a clear case which prevents the screen being touched?? need one for use on my motorbike whilst using the satnav.
Thanks in anticipation
Gary
garyaxton said:
Has anybody come across a clear case which prevents the screen being touched?? need one for use on my motorbike whilst using the satnav.
Thanks in anticipation
Gary
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Have a look at this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349945
Hi gk141054. Yes, you are quite correct, the PDair aluminium case does stop you removing the stylus - but that is fixed in about 5 minutes with a small round file. Or 20 seconds with a Dremmel!! Just grind a little material from that corner - enough to allow removal of the stylus - and blend the edges in smoothly. I can get the stylus out without even looking - the case now acts as a guide for your fingers.
Can definitely agree with Mike- it is a very neat, robust case, and I've been using mine for 12 months too. The hard plastic sreen is good too - you can see caller ID, alarms, etc, without having to take it out of the case. My case is black, and the number of scratches on the edges show just how good it has been at protecting my Artemis. Good enough that I'm looking for one for my Orbit 2.
Hope this helps.
Has anyone experiences with bags for flipout. i dont have one because of the formfactor...but i would like to have a cheap solution. maybe a bag which belongs to another mobile and works for the flipout?
or a camerabag...
thanks for help
i have a solution. a sock by bagmovil. fits good and cheap.
I found a case on Amazon UK for around £3.50 if that's any help. Can't remember the name but I just searched for "Flipout" and had a browse through the seemingly endless array of incompatible tat they have. The cases are pretty cool, range of colours, pretty hardy, dirt cheap. Mine's breaking already but it's kissed the kitchen floor a good few times now.
my last bag by bagmovil wasn´t a good solution...bad quality! now i have a bag mady by my own...a piece of leather and some wool...very save for my flipout
For anyone still reading, I'm considering the PDAir belt pouch range.
They have what appears to be a basic slip-on case, a standard belt holster type with magnetic closure top strap, and another belt one where the front cover flaps over allowing you to open the Flipout, although the downside is the clear plastic top part covering the keyboard.
Search for "PDAir Flipout" on Amazon.
On ebay has several covers (case)
http://www.ebay.com/sch/Cases-Covers-Skins-/20349/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=FlipOut