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T-Mobile UK - MDA III --- HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have just bought a T-Mobile UK MDA III and I think my whole package is out of date..
I need a ROM update, and if possible an OS update. But I dont know how and where to find either..
I called T-Mobile, but they seemed LESS clued up than me. Can ANYONE help me out... perhaps get me the files I need to do this.
Bearing in mind that I am a TOTAL phone novice..
My Details are as follows... (I couldnt select my phone from the profile set up)
ROM version: 1.06.00 ENG
ROM date: 08/05/04
Radio version : 1.00.00
Protocol version : 1337.30
ExtROM version : 1.06.160 ENG
O/S Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition
Version 4.21.1088 (Build 14132)
So, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE HELP!!

sekou0 said:
I have just bought a T-Mobile UK MDA III and I think my whole package is out of date..
I need a ROM update, and if possible an OS update. But I dont know how and where to find either..
I called T-Mobile, but they seemed LESS clued up than me. Can ANYONE help me out... perhaps get me the files I need to do this.
Bearing in mind that I am a TOTAL phone novice..
My Details are as follows... (I couldnt select my phone from the profile set up)
ROM version: 1.06.00 ENG
ROM date: 08/05/04
Radio version : 1.00.00
Protocol version : 1337.30
ExtROM version : 1.06.160 ENG
O/S Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition
Version 4.21.1088 (Build 14132)
So, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE HELP!!
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Don't get upset but you really should read the site a bit more before posting such a thread.
Everything you need to know is right here if only some of you guys would search and have a read first.
To take the edge of the above lol here is where everything you need to know is read carefully before attempting anything you can damage your device.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel
Good Luck

Guys
I am on my knees genuflecting wildly..
thanks very much... and I am in NO WAY upset infact I was beginning to think it was my own stupidity as to why I couldnt find it..
But to be honest... I have searched alot.. reading loads of threads that didnt quite say what I needed..
But anyways... thanks ALOT for the pointer

CarlnAdele said:
Don't get upset but you really should read the site a bit more before posting such a thread.
Everything you need to know is right here if only some of you guys would search and have a read first.
To take the edge of the above lol here is where everything you need to know is read carefully before attempting anything you can damage your device.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel
Good Luck
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Hi again..
HELP!! I must be really dense.. I am not sure how I managed to procreate..
But I've downloaded the /O2_UK_XDAIIs_WWE_13100_139_10600_SHIP/ file.. and I've applied the changes as per http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_GettingStarted
Now before I actually RUN this against my working phone, I am wondering, if as well as upgrading the windows operating system, will it change my phone from a look and feel t-mobile environment to a O2 one??
Am I right in thinkng that the extended rom is the O2/T-Mobile specific programs??
Basically I am looking for My T-Mobile with the latest microsoft windows OS..
THanks for your patience and help

You're going to have to put in a bit of time and effort to get what you want.
The update has three parts, Base OS, ExtROM and Radio ROM.
The first and last will be OK, but the ExtROM is customised for each provider (ie O2, Orange etc).
It might be best unlocking your ExtROM (search for how), and save it. Work out what is OK, what needs updating and what is operator customisation. assemble a set of CAB files that match all the criteria for your phone and T-Mobile.
Replace the ExtROM with the files you have assembled and then update the base OS and radio ROMs, leaving the ExtROM as you have just altered it.
When the upgrade is finished a hard reset will run your new ExtROM with specific T-Mobile customisations you have gathered.
Although I didn't need to change the Base OS and Radio ROMs, I did manage to convert an XDA IIs to an SPV M2000 by altering the ExtROM, so the method works.
Richard

THANKS
Thanks guys..
I finally got it updated to 1.40 no less
Thanks for the pointers and the help..

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sekou0 said:
Thanks guys..
I finally got it updated to 1.40 no less
Thanks for the pointers and the help..
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and dont just stop there.....
post some feedback on how the unit works now with the new rom....
help others by posting your feedback, your challenges etc.

Hi, I'm thinking about upgrading my MDAIII cos I'll probably die/kill myself before tmobile does anything about it :evil:
What did you end up with in your external ROM to keep all the tmobile gubbins. And did it work the same as before?
The tmobile stuff might not be great but don't know what the phone would be like without it.
Also any chance of you zipping up your ext rom and putting it on the ftp?

Upgrading T-Mobile Roms
A word of warning - be careful if you use the Blackberry (Insant Email) Service with T-Mobile UK, as it has been reported that it will not work with any radio higher than 1.06.
Good luck with upgrading and please post back for us less brave MDA III owners

No worries about Blackberry here. I would remove it anyway more than likely if doing a ROM upgrade as its not doing anything for me other than taking up space.

Sure..
I am decorating the house at the moment... But I will zip up my existing ext rom this weekend.. and I;ll let you know whats working...
Theres a generic 1.40 rom floating around on this site.. when I got theres a ext rom with that... and all I did was take the T-Mob cabs from my existing rom and dropped them in the ext rom directory..
But I will take my existing ext rom from my phone and zip that up for you..
so far everything is working... havent had any real problems with the phone SO FAR!!
nacatomi said:
Hi, I'm thinking about upgrading my MDAIII cos I'll probably die/kill myself before tmobile does anything about it :evil:
What did you end up with in your external ROM to keep all the tmobile gubbins. And did it work the same as before?
The tmobile stuff might not be great but don't know what the phone would be like without it.
Also any chance of you zipping up your ext rom and putting it on the ftp?
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Hi,
did you get chance to upload the ROM yet? I've had a look round on the ftp and can't find it. Don't mean to be an a*?e chasing you if you haven't had time yet, just wondering if its me being stupid not being able to find it :?

Dude!
I am really sorry it took so long, I have had a really bad week..
Well the good news is that I have just zipped my external rom for you.. but for some reason I cant upload it to the ftp site.. (mind you I am not entirely sure where to put it)
It comes in at 12MB so I cant email it.. so the alternatives to me finding it is you giving me an msn messenger Id and I could send it from there..
i will continue to look to find a way to upload it..
nacatomi said:
Hi,
did you get chance to upload the ROM yet? I've had a look round on the ftp and can't find it. Don't mean to be an a*?e chasing you if you haven't had time yet, just wondering if its me being stupid not being able to find it :?
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happy days...
I just uploaded it to xdaupload.. stupid me was using xda.. duh!!
theres a winzip file TMobile_UK_Cooked_Extended_ROM_sekou0.zip
thats my current external rom.. with the tmobile bits included...
let me know if you need anything else...
nacatomi said:
Hi,
did you get chance to upload the ROM yet? I've had a look round on the ftp and can't find it. Don't mean to be an a*?e chasing you if you haven't had time yet, just wondering if its me being stupid not being able to find it :?
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radio update!?

i have jasjar
rom 1.13.53 WWE
radio 1.03.01
protocol 42.36.P8
extRom 1.13.137
thats the newest rom, isnt it!?
as i can see, lots of people talk about radio update 1.04.02 but i cant find it!? I tried at forum links (ftp, universal folder) but there is no anything about radio!!!??
btw what about improvement, 1.03 vs 1.04 ?
regards

There you go
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7YF2JH2A :lol: :lol:

Flashing Radio will loose settings in standard Rom ?
Hello,
Will Flashing ONLY the Radio Rom mean, that all settings will be saved, or will the device be Hard-reset ?
Kind regareds,

Re: There you go
taiseer999 said:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7YF2JH2A :lol: :lol:
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TNX!

Re: Flashing Radio will loose settings in standard Rom ?
Scotty said:
Hello,
Will Flashing ONLY the Radio Rom mean, that all settings will be saved, or will the device be Hard-reset ?
Kind regareds,
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hmmm, im not sure, cant remember but i think that settings will be saved!

I have a Jasjar, which was running:
ROM version 1.13.53 WWE
Radio version 1.03.01
ExtROM version 1.13.137 WWE
I ran the radio-only upgrade, which errored the first time but ran without problem the second time. After a soft reset, I now have:
ROM version 1.13.53 WWE
Radio version 1.04.02
ExtROM version 1.13.137 WWE
All my settings/hacks were retained and no information was lost. The radio appears to be stable.

Hi, Sorry... im posting a newbie question... please ignore if "beneath" you...
Im confused on the "radio" upgrade thing. I mean, is this really the radio that we know of (FM/AM)? Why the need for upgrade? How do i make the radio work then?
Laugh all you want, read all your posts and i still dont get it.

The "radio" portion of the Jasjar is the phone/gprs componentry. The rest of the Jasjar is the PDA componentry. Because, theoretically at least, WM5 products can be PDA-only and because the radio portion of WM5 products can vary widely (differing standards for various parts of the world), the firmware is released in two parts: the base operating system for the PDA and the radio subsystem addition for the phone/gprs functions. This explanation is somewhat broad, and not 100% accurate, but hopefully provides some clarification.

can i use this to update my orange spv m5000? or is there another version for it..\
cheers

ok i've tried several times now and its not working.....

its not working for my spv m5000 either

ssn04 said:
The "radio" portion of the Jasjar is the phone/gprs componentry. The rest of the Jasjar is the PDA componentry. Because, theoretically at least, WM5 products can be PDA-only and because the radio portion of WM5 products can vary widely (differing standards for various parts of the world), the firmware is released in two parts: the base operating system for the PDA and the radio subsystem addition for the phone/gprs functions. This explanation is somewhat broad, and not 100% accurate, but hopefully provides some clarification.
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Thanks for the explanation.. that was tech101 for me I get it now.. It's the "phone" part then.. upgrading the radio might have something to do with connecting wifi, bt etc... and i really though i could tune in to my favorite radio station.. haha
Thanks a heap!

Thanks for the explanation.. that was tech101 for me I get it now.. It's the "phone" part then.. upgrading the radio might have something to do with connecting wifi, bt etc... and i really though i could tune in to my favorite radio station.. haha
Thanks a heap!
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You are welcome. BTW, something like this http://www.dealsonic.com/csdsedifmstr.html would add AM-FM capability to a Jasjar if WM5 drivers are available. Note though that it would seriously truncate battery life.

FYI, the SD-Radio is the older model.
Take a look at the sleeker SD-Radio2...
http://www.c-guys.net/products/sd-radio2.html

Works
Hi,
Tha radio Rom upgrade worked Fine.
No settings have been lost. and I hope some Telphone and bluetooth problems are history now.
Regards,
Bjorn

Benefit of Radio 1.04 over 1.03?
Just got my i-mate jasjar. Wondering about upgrades but it seems to work and if it aint broke, dont fix it!!
For those who have flashed from 1.03 to 1.04, what improvements were there?
Thanx

I just updated my 1.03.00 to 1.04.10 on my Qtek 9000
The biggest improvement is the time from hitting the 'pick-up' button to the connection being established. On the older version, this took about 5-7 seconds.... on new version, this happens instantly.
Maybe it's just me, but i think the sound quality of the phonecall is improved too.

Post deleted as I managed to upgrade the radio stack successfully to 1.04.10
cheers guys

Hello
can some1 please tel me what improvement thet is withn the Radio version 1.04.10.
I've done a rom upgrade on my Xda exec the radio is still 1.04.02.
Is the radio vrsion 1.04.10 compatable with the xda exec.
Please some1 advice.
Thank You
Gigino

i have downloaded: radio_.nbf = radio rom and: MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe
put it in 1 directorie and when i run the exe i get an error can't find ruu.dll
with files do i need to upgrade only the radio and where can i find them, or what am i doing wrong..
i am a newbee
my device is a qtek 9000

NEW ROM: Orange UK 1.30.90

Comes with MSFP but not A2DP as expected, but one suprise is that it has been bundled with radio 1.03 - obviously they think this is the most stable?
Can be downloaded by anyone here:
http://www.business.orange.co.uk/se...c=PaDPage&cid=1044130840493&mid=1044129390154
If you flash, post your experiences here... as I will...

I found that there have a massage with AKU2 come form the link you provide
the massage form offical as below;
How to download and install your new M5000 AKU 2 ROM.
The ROM posted on this website has AKU 2/Messaging and Security Feature Pack functionality. This is not a ‘patch’ – rather this is a total ROM replacement. Please ensure that any data you currently have on your M5000 is backed up.

simdao said:
I found that
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Yes, it's A2DP it doesn't come with (stereo bluetooth). The AKU2 update includes MSFP.

I found that there have a massage with AKU2 come form the link you provide
the massage form offical as below;
How to download and install your new M5000 AKU 2 ROM.
The ROM posted on this website has AKU 2/Messaging and Security Feature Pack functionality. This is not a ‘patch’ – rather this is a total ROM replacement. Please ensure that any data you currently have on your M5000 is backed up.

yes

Is A2DP included?

Presumably it is possible to replace the 1.03 radio rom with the 1.09 or even simply exclude the radio update if already running 1.09?

captainsensible2002 said:
Presumably it is possible to replace the 1.03 radio rom with the 1.09 or even simply exclude the radio update if already running 1.09?
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I'd imagine so. I'll give it a whirl later, without the radio ROM, and let you know.

it's possible with noid update... I just updated without the radio...

Nice one. Cheers!

For screenshots check the pics at the end of this topic:
http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_message/25402034#25402034
I also broke My MiniUSB port so I dissasembled my PRO and soldered it back for pics check the same topic to see the Pro from the inside .

confirmed. NO A2DP included. Maybe next time......

M5000 rom update
I'm asuming that this radio has not changed at all. can anyone confirm?
I'm running 1.09 radio from imate update and I'm not sure if it's worth updating at all. Orange have come in too late again and with this radio I don't see the point in all the hastle.

M5000 rom update
I'm asuming that this radio has not changed at all. can anyone confirm?
I'm running 1.09 radio from imate update and I'm not sure if it's worth updating at all. Orange have come in too late again and with this radio I don't see the point in all the hastle.

diggy.....wtf is up with your double and triple posts on these forums!? sort it out...
(no offence, btw)

M5000
This post problem is not me as far as I no. Why is there a previous post problem I not aware of? I've not noticed any other than this.
Anyway I've updated To new Orange Rom and it appears that my earlier problem ( delay in ringing etc ) thought to be radio. Is now no longer since upgrade.
Is upgrade worth it?
In my opinion if anyone is interested YES

FYI
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=249972&highlight=#249972
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=249993&highlight=#249993
Just saying cus it gets a bit annoying. that s all...
Cheers

Just leave out the radio.nbf if you don't want to cheange your radio.

Sorry

Sorry

Newest AKU2 ROM for Orange with radio 1.13.00

ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/Universal/M5000ruu.exe

RE
I'm only interested in the radio. Is it stable, louder and better?
If yes, can somebody extract and upload here?
Thanks

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FOSA said:
I'm only interested in the radio. Is it stable, louder and better? If yes, can somebody extract and upload here?
Thanks
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link to the extracted radio ROM can be found on the first post to the thread link below. so far nobody has a concrete example of an improvement. i loaded it last night. no change to test yet.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=60965

RE
Thanks. Downloading now
Not sure whether it'll work better on my QTEK9000
:roll:

Re: RE
FOSA said:
Thanks. Downloading now
Not sure whether it'll work better on my QTEK9000
:roll:
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i installed the 1.13 radio along with the latest QTEK ROM.

I've installed radio 1.13 with different ROMs and it always showed a very bad performance in terms of reception quality and GPRS/3G/UMTS functionality.
Reverted back to 1.11 now.

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skywriter said:
FOSA said:
Thanks. Downloading now
Not sure whether it'll work better on my QTEK9000
:roll:
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i installed the 1.13 radio along with the latest QTEK ROM.
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been a couple of days. i don't notice any change over 1.09, or 1.11.
i use the phone mostly for blackberry email, and web browser. reception is the same.

Re: RE
skywriter said:
i use the phone mostly for blackberry email, and web browser. reception is the same.
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Did you succeed with BBConnect on Ivan's AKU3.2 ROM ? I cannot make BBConnect run.....

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baudy2 said:
skywriter said:
i use the phone mostly for blackberry email, and web browser. reception is the same.
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Did you succeed with BBConnect on Ivan's AKU3.2 ROM ? I cannot make BBConnect run.....
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i have not tried Ivan's AKU3.2 ROM. at this point i'm just going to use it as is. it's working fine for me, and i need it stable for work.

i have not been able to get it to work on AKU3 yet either....

SMS - No incoming messages
I post just to alert others to a problem I have just encountered that may, or may not, be attributable to Radio 1.13.00.
Ever the adventurous, I flashed with Ivan's AKU 3.2 ROM and MvRTrue VGA and, I think, everything was working fine. Going a step further I then flashed the Radion from 1.09 to 1.13.
Now I do not seem to be able to receive SMS.
I thought for a while that I had cooked the Sim because I stupidly left it in during the Radio upgrade. But I have now changed the Sim and the same problem persists.
The problem could be 1.13 OR the combination of 1.13 and AKU3.2 OR something else (ie hardware problem) but, in the latter case the coincidence of it occuring at the same time as the ROM upgrades makes me think it unlikely.
I am just flashing back to Radio 1.09 to see if that cures the problem.
Has anyone else seen a similar problem and got any other suggestions?
Andy

Re: SMS - No incoming messages
apbristow said:
Now I do not seem to be able to receive SMS.
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i have radio 1.13 on QTEK ROM. i am recieving SMS messages fine since the upgrade last week.

Bak on Radio 1.09 and SMS working
Update - Have just flashed back to 1.09 and SMS working OK. So can only conclude that it is 1.13 problem (perhaps just incompatibility with O2??) or incompatibility between 1.13 and O2 SMS Plus app which I use for SMS messaging. Will do further tests - but tomorrow. In the meantime would welcome others' experiences.
Andy

Works fine with T-Mobile Germany
UMTS reception got better (in my room, UMTS from no availability to 2/5, GSM unchanged 4/5)

i'd have to say this seems to be the best overall package i've used (was previously running my own mix of qtek with radio 1.11 and orange ext rom) really fast and no dropped calls as yet. reception much the same but reasonable.

WM6: Problem with recieving incoming calls

Since I installed WM6 I can´t recieve incoming calls. The phone lights up but nothing more, and when I click on the reception or phone symbol when it lights up it says "no service" (translated from Swedish).
It was also some problems with Active Sync 4.5 since I upgraded, but those problems might just be because I needed to reinstall it.
Does anybody please know how to fix this, otherwise tomorrow it will go to the repair-shop and I will lose 12 days and the order in my life. : (
The sim-card works on another phone and it worked with WM5, and I have tried hard reset and a reinstall of WM6, but the problem persists.
/Danne

Hi,
Did you try to install an offoicial version of WM6 or one of the cooked ones of this board? If the latter did you take all the necessary precautions first eg installing an upgraded bootloader, etc?
If you have not you may have bricked your phone.
Give us a bit more detail so we can see how we can help.
Cheers
WB

hello
I had the same problem when I upgrade to official WM6 HTC rom, the phone don't ring and I loose the network.
I solve the problem with flashing the radio rom with older version.

I put wm6 on my phone the first day I got it. so I don't really know if this was a problem b4 with wm5.
mine only seems to ring my end after about 8 rings from the dialer so I have to get it within 2 rings b4 voice mail kicks in. Ypu think the if I update the radio as well will that help me?
ps. sorry for hi-jacking your topic seemed along the same line.

the same problem with Bouygues telecom!
Hi guys,
vinzcoyote can you tell me which radio version you put? i'm having the same problem with Bouygues telecom after updrading to WM6
thanks for the help.
C. J.

are you sure the phne settings havnt got blown out?
generally after about a day after i flash on a rom i lose my carrier settigs and i get no connections. i use the cnguar provisioning cab that is floating arond to quickly fix this.

CrunchyGremlin said:
are you sure the phne settings havnt got blown out?
generally after about a day after i flash on a rom i lose my carrier settigs and i get no connections. i use the cnguar provisioning cab that is floating arond to quickly fix this.
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Sorry but i'm new to this: whats the "cnguar provisioning cab "?
thanks
CJ

Hi everybody,
Sorry it took a while to answer (sleeping time).
I installed the official version from HTC Europe and it it only the incoming calls that doesn´t work, I can call other people.
THE SOLUTIONS
Two solutions seems to have been offered (below) but I (as Curious Jack) are new to this so could you please elaborate of give a link where I can read more?
Vinzcoyote "I solve the problem with flashing the radio rom with older version"
CrunchyGremlin: cnguar provisioning cab
Thanks so far.
//D

Hi there
I had the same problem with mine after flashing to wm6 (but on a trinity)
Apparently there are 2 fixes:
1. Get a NEW sim , or
2. Flash radio rom back to an earlier version that was used with wm5.
Hope this helps

luckydip said:
Hi there
I had the same problem with mine after flashing to wm6 (but on a trinity)
Apparently there are 2 fixes:
1. Get a NEW sim , or
2. Flash radio rom back to an earlier version that was used with wm5.
Hope this helps
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Thanks!
Two concrete solutions.
One last question: I use a Swedish OS - do the radio roms that is under: "Extracted Radio ROMs for your Hermes" work for me? Or only Anglosaxian PDA:s?
/Dan

similar problem discussed here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1442269#post1442269
in fact Palm Treo 750 (HTC Cheetah) and Hermes are based on the same radio module.
latest Palm Treo WM6 Radio version: 1.47 (Qualcom)
What that Palm utility does is simply downgrading radio to earlier version. This might work for Hermes in bootloader mode as well.
My point is: no need to install hard sspl if one can downgrade to earlier version of radio with _official_ radio downgrade tool.
I will try later and report back.
update: Palm Radio downgrade tool picked up that device is incompatible. no luck so far.

Seems problem is with Bouygues Telecom
Hi Guys,
Got the exact same problem with Bouygues Telecom. I put a Orange Sim card and it is working so I assume the issue comes from Bouygues Telecom.
So that to check, are the french guys all on Bouygues Telecom or are you using other Telco operators?
Frederic

SOLVED : WM6 & HTC Tytn & Bouygues Telecom now working
Guys,
to make it work, you need to flash ROM Radio 1.38 on top of Windows Mobile 6.
ROM Radio 1.38 can be finded at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtractedRadioRoms

what version did you use? There are few of them listed on that page:
1.38.00.01
1.38.00.10
1.38.30.10