Has Any one found a program or hack that aloows you to close the running programs when you hit the little X ? It seems simple but Im not sure why they made it so they still run when you close the program for all of the applications. When I pess the X I'm done what about you all?
Dekum of the New Outriders :roll:
Dekum:
Many people have found many ways of doing it. A search will open this world up to you.
Here's a good way to do it though:
http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/smclose.shtml
As I said, there are other ways, it may be in your interest to get a wider opinion before diving in to smclose.
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Thanks thats what I was looking for I will let you know how it works.
I use one called Close All. Basically a red X that when executed will close all running apps. Very handy. Much quicker than Start>Settings>System>Memory>Running Programs>Stop All.
I've tried a lot of these and all suffer the problem of not being able to close the phone dialer and most bork some how. ActiveSync can also be a pain closing, but some tools are better than others.
My personal favs are:
vbar: http://www.vieka.com/vbar.htm
magicbutton: http://www.trancreative.com/mb.aspx
I've stuck with magicbutton til I find something that reliably closes the apps above and provides it's simplicity and functionality. I use the battery meter it provides as I have the systray off (until I find something remotely useful for that area). Also I can hide dialer and async and also set them to keep alive, which both keeps them happy and me not seeing them unless I want to
Anyways, plenty of choices, most can be found on google using a search phrase like "pocketpc task manager" or ppc... etc. Gl.
any programs that could be customized (we can choose) whether if we like to close it or just minimize it?
eg: for file explorer if we tap close button then it will close the application, but for messaging if we tap close button then it only minimize it.
yeah many pda programs dont like being terminated in that way
doing it just after sending a sms is giving ppl problems with 2 sms's sendt and sms iron not going away from the title bar
other programs would prob also act up thinking of data not being saved correct
since i suspect some pda programs only really save in when they are closed the normal way as in by the OS
I did try the magicbutton and it seem to work better than the smclose I havnt tried the other yet let know and thanks for the help all this is a great source of information for the 8125 and htc phones.
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Vap: VJOkButt has a specific mode for closing the phone, -phclose.
It will close the phone, but it's not advisable to close the phone because it introduces a minor incompatibility - trying to dial from the contacts app will cause problems. However, if you never do this, it'll save you a few 100k.
I've also written two apps specifically to close the phone, I think one if VJPhoneToggle or something.
Again, closing activesync is not advisable because if you're connected through GPRS/Wifi etc, it'll hangup your connection. In most use the app will be hidden from view anyway. VJOkButt ignores ActiveSync.
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One of the things that annoys me about my Dash is its habit of attempting to call home every time it boots up. I always recei a number from some service complaining that I have an unknown phone number. It would be nice to know how to turn this off.
Also, is there some way of generally making a distinction between EDGE and WiFi connections so I can avoid burning data if I don't have to? AT&T's configuration has EDGE set us as an Internet connection, and a proxy set up from The Internet to WAP Network. It's nice that Skype and Fring make a distinction between cell data and WiFi, and I'd like to carry that over o mail, MSN Messenger, ShoZu and browsers if possible. I'm willing to experiment since I have unlimited EDGE for the rest of this month.
Any ideas?
Are you referring to a received text message? Cause you'll get that if you don't disable the myfaves when you use it on the at&t network.
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Are you referring to a received text message? Cause you'll get that if you don't disable the myfaves when you use it on the at&t network.
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Yep, that's it. How do I go about disabling MyFaves? And is it possible to re-enable it later? There's the possibility that once our contract is up (or at least, once my contract is up) we'll be jumping ship to go with T-Mobile.
There's a shortcut in \Windows\Startup that you move out. I forget the name at the moment, but it should be clear.
What he said.... you will need to rename the file (whatever you want)... reboot and then you can delete it.
He can't rename the file if it's in use. Download a task manager like celetask. Open program and go to processes, kill myfavapp (I think its called), then go to the \Windows\Startup folder and remove the shortcut to the My Fav application.
Oh really? Because that is exactly how I did it. (And yes, it was running under the processes)
I've never found a successful way of renaming or moving the my5service.exe file in WM5. I did it without any problems in WM6 but I don't use it. I've searched many threads and all say recommend the same methods like deleting MyFav from the Startup Folder (which I don't see like so many). It simply can't be done or something since it's a ROM/System/ReadOnly. I tried unchecking System/ReadOnly using RescoExplorer then tried moving it using Resco and Activesync. No Go. If anybody knows how to take out my5 in WM5, please post it.
P.S.: I am using Celetask 2.2
i am running WM6.0 what i did was to go to "Comm Manager" and i turned off the "Data" & "Phone radio" icons, i restarted the phone, with the radio off i was able to delete the file, after deleting the file i turned back on the above and restarted again, no rogue text any longer
good luck
Hi there,
I just got myself the Touch Pro2, having been a user of the Touch Diamond for somewhile and enjoyed that phone. However, I have been having some challenges with the TouchPro 2 and questions and am hoping that someone here could help
1. The task manager at the top right corner. This usually lists the programs that are running. However, with the TP2, I noticed that once Opera is loaded, it does not show up there but is still running. So if I want to close Opera, I am not sure how to as previously, I just needed to click on the "x" next to it. The other program that is behaving in the same manner is ActiveSync. It does not show up there either. Has anyone have the same issue?
2. When I try to add contacts to the people tab, it will bring up the list of contacts with a alphabetical index on the right side. However, when I click on any of the alphabets, say "D", it does not bring me to my contacts starting with "D" but rather to somewhere in the middle of "C". This goes the same for any alphabets. Does anyone have the same prob?
Thanks!
For your first question
Some apps aren't meant to be closed like the phone app or activesync. They always run in the background. As for Opera, I don't know, but maybe it's neccesary for the push internet thingy to work?
driekus said:
Some apps aren't meant to be closed like the phone app or activesync. They always run in the background. As for Opera, I don't know, but maybe it's neccesary for the push internet thingy to work?
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I could close the activesync in my diamond previously but not in TP2.
Hmm.... push internet, it could be a reason but still find it odd that it's not listed as an item on the task manager.
Magic Button
Well, Mango Beta is here, meaning there are lots of new cool features. Some of them are either buried or not obvious. Here are some that I've found so far:
UPDATE: Thank you for everyone's participation. I have added several tips based on comments in the discussion
Custom Ringtones
1. Copy MP3 or WMA to Zune Collection. Choose Edit, and type in manually under Genre "Ringtone". The song must be less than 40 seconds and smaller than 1MB.
2. Go to Settings -> Ringtones + Sounds, tap Ringtone. Your custom ringtone will appear under a new tree called "Custom", above "Windows Phone"
Note that it is identified by the filename, rather than the track title.
Also, you can tap and HOLD a ringtone, and Delete will be offered (but only on the Custom ones; preloaded ones grey out delete).
Windows Live Messenger
Windows Live Messenger is so damned easy that I didn't see it staring at me. Pick Messaging, slide right to Online. Set Chat Status (icon at bottom), hit +, and send a message to any Messenger contact. And/or if anyone sends you an MSN, you get a ding just like a SMS, and it appears under Messaging.
Mango automatically made my Windows Live account that my phone is registered under, which is also my Messenger account, work. Others have noted that it's not possible to have a second Messenger account -- only your PRIMARY Windows Live account is linked to Messenger.
Facebook chat is set up also from Messaging -> Online. Some people have had trouble with this... read down to see some possible solutions.
Dev Unlock Mango B2
You must have a dev unlocked phone to install Mango, but installing Mango relocks your phone. To unlock it again, run Windows Phone Developer Registration from the Beta 2 SDK tools.
Voice Activated SMS/Messaging
To allow Voice recognition from Messaging (like SMS, Messenger) while on Carrier Data, go to Settings -> Speech and check Enable Speech Recognition over Network.
This is REALLY cool. Put on a headset; leave your phone on the home screen. When someone sends you a Messenger, it announces that the person has sent you a message, Read It or Ignore. If you say, "Read it", the phone reads the message. You then have an opportunity to reply via speech!
Visual Voicemail
Evidently, this is in Settings -> Phone (or Phone app, slide up, call settings). But it doesn't show up for everyone -- it's carrier dependent (doesn't show up for Telus phone on Fido for me).
Exchange/Gmail Server Search
To search the server for older (for example, Exchange) go to Outlook, click the on-screen search button, make a search. At the bottom of the results, tap "search more in Outlook". When the server search is done, at the bottom of the results, you'll see "get more results" and "search all folders". Woohoo!
Bing Visual Search -- and OCR!
Tap Bing key. Click eyeball. You can snap QR codes, Microsoft codes, or TEXT. If you snap text, it will then detect it, and you can translate it (for example, from French to English). But as someone mentioned, you can translate from English to English... and the results come as text that you can then Copy and Paste! Quick and easy cloud OCR that you have to see to believe.
Skydrive, Office
Just, Wow!
Go to Office. Slide over to Locations and SkyDrive. You can see any of the documents on your SkyDrive, and edit things like Word. It's perfect.
Notes (OneNote, synchronized with SkyDrive and your Desktop OneNote as long as you're saving to Web) is really slick. Office 365 and SharePoint are under Locations.
Easy Ones
Music Controls - This one's easy. Play a song, pause it. Hit lock key. Controls are on the wallpaper. Unlock, hit volume keys -- Controls appear.
Multitasking - Hold down Back button. It's a beautiful implementation. To remove a task from the list, pick it, then hit back button once.
Outlook Threads - Just tap a conversation thread to expand it.
Outlook Account Linking - Outlook -> ... -> Link Inboxes
App Grouping - tap the letters above the groups of apps, just like the phone book (tapping "a" gets you all the letters, tapping "s" jumps to Settings)
App Find - tap magnifying glass on apps list
IE9 -- OMG. Best Mobile Browser Ever. 'nuff said. But is it possible to turn off Address Bar in Landscape? Takes up lots of space.
People/Groups - Tap People hub, tap Family or +. You can make your own Groups, and then SMS or email everyone in the group that has SMS or email. Or quickly call them, since they get big tiles.
People/History - Tap a contact in the People hub, slide to the right, and see History. It shows call/messaging history, and "search Outlook" at the bottom.
Really Nice Subtle features
- Improved buttons during a voice call (larger, blockier, and harder to mispress)
- People Tile is really pretty now
- XBox Live Hub, Avatar, Messages -- way, way nicer. Best game hub ever.
- Marketplace is much better organized; Games are split up into categories.
- Power Down (hold lock button) now "confirms" with a prompt to slide down
- Hardware Search button now always brings up Bing; on-screen search button for context-sensitive.
- Dithering on browser eliminates banding in most cases
Doesn't Work Anymore
The following appear to be broken in Mango:
- Homebrew - Chevron Ringtone Installer (but it's bult in now)
- Homebrew - Home Screen Bluetooth/Wifi/Data button (I already miss this one!)
- LG App Store doesn't seem to open anymore (error appears -- but this seems to work for at least some other people)
- Maps Directions gives an Error
- Maps - Some people don't get Traffic, others do. For the time being I am using gMaps. Free version works!
- Not really sure how to go back and forward on the browser, other than "recent" (which doesn't give you cached version).
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To make Traffic work, just set region/location to English (United States). I had it set to English (Canada). Directions from "My Location" then works as well! (note that I am physically in Canada).
LG App store still does not work for me. It comes up with Error code:805a0194 (Optimus 7 / Telus)
Is your Facebook chat working?
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Facebook chat isn't working for me. In the messaging option for facebook chat, I hit ON, it then says Facebook is set up on my phone, but more steps are needed for chat to work, it then going to a web page that is a dead link.
Nope
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Is your Facebook chat working?
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Nope, I didn't try very hard, but it looks like other people on various threads can't get it working either.
Talys said:
Missing
- What happened to traffic, in Maps?
- Is it possible to search server folders in Outlook?
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Traffic will be back in with the final release/build (if not sooner?)
Full exchange folder search should be possible, as full search of folders for online email. Your outlook wont be searchable unless you sync it to hotmail via connector or use exchange.
I haven't gotten my email yet for download, but this is whats supposed to be in the [final] build. Hope not too many things haven't been implemented, but looking forward to messing around with it.
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Traffic will be back in with the final release/build (if not sooner?)
Full exchange folder search should be possible, as full search of folders for online email. Your outlook wont be searchable unless you sync it to hotmail via connector or use exchange.
I haven't gotten my email yet for download, but this is whats supposed to be in the [final] build. Hope not too many things haven't been implemented, but looking forward to messing around with it.
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It looks great to me. Most features appear fully implmented or "implemented but not quite working" (like FB chat).
I use Exchange. Can't seem to find unsynced emails using the server (eg server search for a year old email or unsync'ed folder). This is a super useful feature on the BlackBerry.
Traffic back would be nice, as I cancelled my XM Nav on my car, since Maps Traffic worked so well
I will have to see how well Network Voice Recognition works when on 3G. Previously, using the LG Voice to Text App, performance on LAN was awesome but performance on anything short of a great 3G connection was awful (the wait was so long that I could park the car and type the message 5 times over).
You guys aren't seeing traffic in maps? I see it and it works just fine.
Don't forget you can also turn on Visual Voicemail in phone settings. Then you can get to your voice through the Phone tile, and by swiping over to voicemail.
Also, Messenger only signs in using your primary live account. You cannot add a second Live ID and have it sign it to messenger.
Facebook Chat works without problems for me
And the Facebook App gets updated with live tile and push notifications, is like christmas for WP7!!!!!!
http://www.wpcentral.com/facebook-windows-phone-hits-v2-0-gets-push-notifications
i'll be the first to ask...is there now a separate ringer volume? in other words is media and ringer volume separate?
I think asking questions is a great idea, but everyone should probably keep one important thing in mind. This is not even CLOSE to the final build, so just because a feature isn't "in there" today doesn't mean it isn't already in the plan for the release version.
With that said, here's my question. Does the task switcher offer any way to close a running task? I can't believe that such an obvious, basic, and NECESSARY feature isn't in there. And only the five most recent tasks? To quote Microsoft's own ad campaign, "Really?"
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i'll be the first to ask...is there now a separate ringer volume? in other words is media and ringer volume separate?
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As far as I can tell, nope. Just a single volume control.
RoboDad said:
With that said, here's my question. Does the task switcher offer any way to close a running task? I can't believe that such an obvious, basic, and NECESSARY feature isn't in there. And only the five most recent tasks? To quote Microsoft's own ad campaign, "Really?"
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The only way to manage running tasks is from the background tasks option under settings. As far as I can tell, the task switcher is just a list of recent apps. They don't run in the background, they become frozen in the background (kinda like they do now in 7.0), and because they aren't actually doing anything in the background, there is no need to close anything within the task switcher. So the option doesn't make much sense to begin with since it doesn't really close anything.
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The only way to manage running tasks is from the background tasks option under settings. As far as I can tell, the task switcher is just a list of recent apps. They don't run in the background, they become frozen in the background (kinda like they do now in 7.0), and because they aren't actually doing anything in the background, there is no need to close anything within the task switcher. So the option doesn't make much sense to begin with since it doesn't really close anything.
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Open the app & press back button will remove it from task switcher. The only app this doesn't work on is IE from what I've seen as the back button is the back navigator button for web pages.
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Nope, I didn't try very hard, but it looks like other people on various threads can't get it working either.
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Try manually syncing your facebook account under email&accounts.
Unless the back button has radically changed under Mango, pressing the back button once doesn't exit an app, unless the app is specifically written to treat a single back button press as "exit". Many apps are very poorly written WRT the back button, and some would require a dozen or more presses to "exit".
And, there are some apps where the back button is part of the necessary app navigation (not just IE, but some other apps I use). I wouldn't want the OS to interpret a single press as an exit if I switch back to the app.
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Open the app & press back button will remove it from task switcher. The only app this doesn't work on is IE from what I've seen as the back button is the back navigator button for web pages.
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Yes, well, that simply removes the "card" from the task switcher. That doesn't necessarily close the application or kill the task. All the task switcher does is step back in time. So going back to an app, and pressing back removes it because by pressing back, you are bring the phone back to a point where the task you switched to has not been started yet (time travel, such a paradox).
If you want to remove a card from the task switcher history, instead of going to the app and pressing back on it to "close" it, you could simply go to the app right before that and it effectively does the same thing. Saves you a step right there.
The problem is that multi-tasking exists for specific reasons/apps on Windows Phone 7.5 and the only way to manage that is by using the background tasks options menu.
So there are two questions and solutions here:
1) Can you terminate an app from the task switcher? No.
2) Can you remove a recent application from the task switcher list? Yes
Thanks for that clarification. I suppose I'll have to play with it once Mango "ships", but right now I'm not sure the task switcher is going to be very useful to me.
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Yes, well, that simply removes the "card" from the task switcher. That doesn't necessarily close the application or kill the task. All the task switcher does is step back in time. So going back to an app, and pressing back removes it because by pressing back, you are bring the phone back to a point where the task you switched to has not been started yet (time travel, such a paradox).
If you want to remove a card from the task switcher history, instead of going to the app and pressing back on it to "close" it, you could simply go to the app right before that and it effectively does the same thing. Saves you a step right there.
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Part of what you said is true, but part isn't. Say I have IE, Messaging, Mail, Settings open in that order. I go back to Messaging & press "back". Now IE, Mail, Settings are in the task switcher. So, it's not "Time Travel" as you put it. You don't loose the other apps you opened after the app you went back to, just the one you pressed "back" on.
This all boils down to the dehydration hack. Apps on the switcher act as if your have the hack enable on pre-mango while those you remove from the switcher get "dehydrated". The setting you mentioned has to do with bg services that allow apps to do stuff in the background. This is similiar to those little icons on your PC's task bar next to the clock such as anti-virus, adobe updater, winamp agent, etc. Stuff running in the background that might do something for the app but isn't necessarily needed. In anti-virus apps, that'd be live protection, which is good but severely impacts performance. The adobe updater checks for updates, close it, no automatic updates.
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Don't forget you can also turn on Visual Voicemail in phone settings. Then you can get to your voice through the Phone tile, and by swiping over to voicemail.
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Not seeing that option in the phone portion of settings . . .
tiny17 said:
Not seeing that option in the phone portion of settings . . .
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Not sure if its carrier dependant or what. I have T-Mobile, and I also have the Visual Voicemail option on my account. Under "phone" settings, right under "Voicemail number", there is an option for me to turn on/off Visual voicemail.
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Part of what you said is true, but part isn't. Say I have IE, Messaging, Mail, Settings open in that order. I go back to Messaging & press "back". Now IE, Mail, Settings are in the task switcher. So, it's not "Time Travel" as you put it. You don't loose the other apps you opened after the app you went back to, just the one you pressed "back" on.
This all boils down to the dehydration hack. Apps on the switcher act as if your have the hack enable on pre-mango while those you remove from the switcher get "dehydrated". The setting you mentioned has to do with bg services that allow apps to do stuff in the background. This is similiar to those little icons on your PC's task bar next to the clock such as anti-virus, adobe updater, winamp agent, etc. Stuff running in the background that might do something for the app but isn't necessarily needed. In anti-virus apps, that'd be live protection, which is good but severely impacts performance. The adobe updater checks for updates, close it, no automatic updates.
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My example was a bit off, my mistake. The rest is still rather unfortunately true, as it stands now, the task switcher is just that, a task switcher. Apps do not run in the background actively, so there is no need to terminate these apps since they aren't really running to begin with, hence you can't really terminate them. The only way for apps to run in the background (or rather, for apps to do things in the background), would be to take advantage of the background tasks feature so that it can do something while not actively open. The only way to manage anything running in the background right now, is with the background tasks setting.
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Not sure if its carrier dependant or what. I have T-Mobile, and I also have the Visual Voicemail option on my account. Under "phone" settings, right under "Voicemail number", there is an option for me to turn on/off Visual voicemail.
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I have it too, T-Mobile USA as well.