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how to set Wi-fi for XDA IIs as adhoc (peer-to-peer)

Hi Everybody,
I can not configure my O2 XDA IIs's Wifi to connect to my notebook's wifi by using adhoc. ( where is the set up page in WLAN to set fixed IP, submask, DNS etc on XDAIIs ?)
My scenario is my notebook connects to office LAN cable. I try to configure WIFI on notebook to let XDA2s can surf internet via Wifi as adhoc.
Thank you for your help

Is there anyone can help me...pls

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My scenario is my notebook connects to office LAN...
configure WIFI on notebook to let XDA2s surf internet via Wifi as adhoc.
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It's a matter of *Internet connection sharing* (Keyword I guess...)
Your PC shares its LAN connection and you use it by your WLAN.
Depending on your PC OS version you may have wizzards to help establishing the share.
Jean-Jacques

Thanks
My notebook ( XP w/SP2 ) doesn't have the internet sharing feature on the LAN card at
Local Area Connection properties-> Advance (tab)
But I can see this internet sharing option at the same location on my Wireless LAN card properties.
What should i do to enable it on my LAN card?
Thanks
MR2046

i did it with my imate jam + sandisk wifi sd and sync, share files, do evrything....
just u have to add profile in ur PC/Laptop SSID with operating mode (Ad hoc), then scan with ur XDAIIs untel u find ur pc/laptop and connect.
btw, u need to configure network connection ip for both and make pc (192.168.100.1) - XDAIIs (192.168.100.2) subnetmask for both (255.255.255.0)
thats all :wink:

NightmarE said:
u need to configure network connection ip for both and make pc (192.168.100.1) - XDAIIs (192.168.100.2) subnetmask for both (255.255.255.0)
thats all :wink:
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Isn't there a matter of gateway to be configured somewhere in the IP settings of the Wireless ?
I'm not sure of the one needed (PC vs. ISP)
Jean-Jacques

no need, coz the gateway just for a network between server and many PCs or for specific configurations, but at peer-to-peer mode (like computer to computer wire network) no need for Gateway. if u need more info take look here http://www.makeitsimple.com/how-to/simple.htm
laters 8)

[HELP!] PC network problems when connected with Bluetooth PAN internet sharing.

Hi there, I have a big problem that will force me to downgrade to WM5 if I can't solve it.
Here's the facts:
I don't have a telephone line at home and I'm connecting to internet using a flat GPRS/UMTS connection with Vodafone using my TyTN as bluetooth modem (using the old WM5 DUN profile).
Since I upgraded to WM6 (and I love it) the DUN profile and Wireless Modem has been replaced by Internet Sharing application. It works very fine but it messes up my network connection with my other PC.
I used to share the internet connection this way: the bluetooth modem was connected to my main PC (AMD Sempron). The LAN (manually setted up) on this PC was: 192.168.0.1 / subnet 255.255.255.0. The LAN (manually setted up) on other PC (AMD Athlon) was 192.160.0.10 / subnet 255.255.255.0 / gateway 192.168.0.1. It all worked very fine.
Now as I connect the PAN bluetooth internet sharing my main PC (Sempron) acquires a new network address (the TyTN seems to be automatically setted as 192.168.0.1) so the LAN on the PC is 192.168.0.153 /subnet 255.255.255.0 /gateway 192.160.0.1 and the connection works fine but I'm not able anymore to connect via LAN tothe other PC even if I try different LAN settings on the Athlon (I tried to manually set it as 192.168.0.10 /subnet 255.255.255.0).
Who can tell me how to configure the LAN setting on the 2 PCs so that I can access internet enabling PAN bluetooth on the TyTN with the main PC (Sempron) and still continue accessing remote folders and files via LAN on the other PC (Athlon)?
It would be great if I could share the connection with the 2 PCs like I did before, but I'll be ok if I can connect to internet with one and have a working LAN between the 2 PCs.
Hope I explained it well.
Waiting for suggestions. Thank you!

Pick a machine that is to be the internet gateway. Do this by initiating the BT PAN network on the first machine. On the first machine's IP stack, Enable Internet Connection Sharing. On the second machine, use the first machine's IP as your default gateway.
You should then be able to access the internet from both machines.
marty_73 said:
Hi there, I have a big problem that will force me to downgrade to WM5 if I can't solve it.
Here's the facts:
I don't have a telephone line at home and I'm connecting to internet using a flat GPRS/UMTS connection with Vodafone using my TyTN as bluetooth modem (using the old WM5 DUN profile).
Since I upgraded to WM6 (and I love it) the DUN profile and Wireless Modem has been replaced by Internet Sharing application. It works very fine but it messes up my network connection with my other PC.
I used to share the internet connection this way: the bluetooth modem was connected to my main PC (AMD Sempron). The LAN (manually setted up) on this PC was: 192.168.0.1 / subnet 255.255.255.0. The LAN (manually setted up) on other PC (AMD Athlon) was 192.160.0.10 / subnet 255.255.255.0 / gateway 192.168.0.1. It all worked very fine.
Now as I connect the PAN bluetooth internet sharing my main PC (Sempron) acquires a new network address (the TyTN seems to be automatically setted as 192.168.0.1) so the LAN on the PC is 192.168.0.153 /subnet 255.255.255.0 /gateway 192.160.0.1 and the connection works fine but I'm not able anymore to connect via LAN tothe other PC even if I try different LAN settings on the Athlon (I tried to manually set it as 192.168.0.10 /subnet 255.255.255.0).
Who can tell me how to configure the LAN setting on the 2 PCs so that I can access internet enabling PAN bluetooth on the TyTN with the main PC (Sempron) and still continue accessing remote folders and files via LAN on the other PC (Athlon)?
It would be great if I could share the connection with the 2 PCs like I did before, but I'll be ok if I can connect to internet with one and have a working LAN between the 2 PCs.
Hope I explained it well.
Waiting for suggestions. Thank you!
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silverfox0214 said:
Pick a machine that is to be the internet gateway. Do this by initiating the BT PAN network on the first machine. On the first machine's IP stack, Enable Internet Connection Sharing. On the second machine, use the first machine's IP as your default gateway.
You should then be able to access the internet from both machines.
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Ok, I started the BT PAN on my main machine (AMD Sempron) but how do I enable the connection sharing? When I was using the DUN connection I used the Advanced Options section to enable the Connction Sharing, but where do I find this opzion now?

On a Windows Machine the IP range to be assigned when Internet Connection Sharing is turned on is 192.168.0.x. That is also the range used by Internet Sharing on the phone. This is a routing conflict. You cant have a 0.x being handed out from the phone to the 1st computer and then have that computer handing out 0.x addresses to any other computers. The IP range the Phone hands out needs to be regedited to something else like 192.168.1.x As far as I know, you cannot change the address range in Windows Internet Connection Sharing. You will have to do it on the phone.
If this helps.

Need help from a Vista user! (Internet Sharing)

I had been successfully tethering via Bluetooth with WM6's Internet Sharing function, and was doing so in XP. Well we just took the Vista plunge and I'm having an issue. The Network Connections is showing my BT connection as "Local Only" meaning I can browse other pc's on the network, but I can't get to the internet. My WiFi connection to my router connects to the internet with no problem (The Wireless Connection shows "Local & Internet Access."
So I can not get out to the internet using my Tytn as my connection. I used the "Diagnose Problem" function in Vista, and it tells me that it cannot ping IP address 192.168.0.1. This is the IP address of my router. I don't want it to try to hit that IP address, but I can't find a way to tell it NOT to. All the settings in TCP/IP protocol are set to obtain an IP address automatically. But it seems that even while using BT as the connection, it still wants to get to my router first, even though I'm not using my WiFi at all. I even tried disabling the WiFi connection. Still the same issue.
Does anyone know what I can do to get the pc to stop trying to get my router first?
Thanks!

Tell me about it! It took me an age to find some drivers that worked with my bluetooth, I ended up using the Toshiba stack. After a lot of fiddling I got it working but when it runs it is very hit and miss and I have yet to transfer anything between devices let alone surf the net! Have you tried the bluetooth set up wizard?
stpete111 said:
I had been successfully tethering via Bluetooth with WM6's Internet Sharing function, and was doing so in XP. Well we just took the Vista plunge and I'm having an issue. The Network Connections is showing my BT connection as "Local Only" meaning I can browse other pc's on the network, but I can't get to the internet. My WiFi connection to my router connects to the internet with no problem (The Wireless Connection shows "Local & Internet Access."
So I can not get out to the internet using my Tytn as my connection. I used the "Diagnose Problem" function in Vista, and it tells me that it cannot ping IP address 192.168.0.1. This is the IP address of my router. I don't want it to try to hit that IP address, but I can't find a way to tell it NOT to. All the settings in TCP/IP protocol are set to obtain an IP address automatically. But it seems that even while using BT as the connection, it still wants to get to my router first, even though I'm not using my WiFi at all. I even tried disabling the WiFi connection. Still the same issue.
Does anyone know what I can do to get the pc to stop trying to get my router first?
Thanks!
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stpete111 said:
I had been successfully tethering via Bluetooth with WM6's Internet Sharing function, and was doing so in XP. Well we just took the Vista plunge and I'm having an issue. The Network Connections is showing my BT connection as "Local Only" meaning I can browse other pc's on the network, but I can't get to the internet. My WiFi connection to my router connects to the internet with no problem (The Wireless Connection shows "Local & Internet Access."
So I can not get out to the internet using my Tytn as my connection. I used the "Diagnose Problem" function in Vista, and it tells me that it cannot ping IP address 192.168.0.1. This is the IP address of my router. I don't want it to try to hit that IP address, but I can't find a way to tell it NOT to. All the settings in TCP/IP protocol are set to obtain an IP address automatically. But it seems that even while using BT as the connection, it still wants to get to my router first, even though I'm not using my WiFi at all. I even tried disabling the WiFi connection. Still the same issue.
Does anyone know what I can do to get the pc to stop trying to get my router first?
Thanks!
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The internet sharing function on the TyTn used 192.168.0.1
You are saying that your router is also using the same address range.
That is a no-no. Change the router address to 192.168.1.1, and I think you will see better results.

@boz - Actually I have no issues connecting to Vista via Bluetooth, and all profiles work great (I'm using the latest Broadcomm stack). My issue is in my Network Connections, not BT itself.
@Wildbill - the Tytn is not using 192.168.0.1. The PC is trying to ping that IP address because it is the address of my wireless router, and the first time I ever accessed the net with that pc, I did so via WiFi through my wireless router at home. Now, what I am trying to do though is get on the internet in my car, while nowhere near my wireless router. But my pc still seems to want to get to my router as though I'm trying to connect to the net via Wifi, when I'm actually just trying to get to it through my phone. The PC connects to the phone with no problem, and the phone is connected to the internet, But, my problem is that I can't figure out how to tell my pc to NOT look for my wireless router's IP address first.
BT DUN was so much easier with Cingular. I wish one of the cooks could figure out how to get the DUN profile back into WM6's BT stack.

I am really confused here.
When you use Internet Sharing on the TyTn, You are using the Tytn to allow other devices to access the Internet thru the TyTn.
When you do that, the TyTn hands out the address of 192.168.0.100 and it is the gateway, and the Gateway address is 192.168.0.1.
If you have your home router using the same address range, you have the PC that the Tytn is sharing it's internet connection with seeing to addresses within the same range, and two gateways with the same address - The PC LAN card is seing the router at 192.168.0.1 and the Buetooth PAN is seing the phone gateway at the same 0.1 That is what I was trying to say. It won't work like that.

Oh ok I see what you're saying. I was assuming that when it gave me the error, that it was trying to ping my router since I knew that to be my router's address. I did not realize that the Tytn used such a similar gateway.
To correct what I said in my first post: I said that it was trying to ping "IP address"... the exact error message reads "Connot Communicate with DNS Server 192.168.0.1"
It shows a nifty little diagram of the PC connected to the Cingular Bluetooth network connection, then another line connecting to a picture of earth, which they call "internet," but there is a red "X" over that line showing that it can't connect to internet. When you click on Diagnose problem, the above error message is what comes up.
So now, I need to make sure I understand what you are saying Wildbill. I see what you mean from your post... being that I don't connect to my router anymore, ever, at all (since the pc never comes out of the car anymore, and I'm way out of range of my wireless router even in the driveway) what do I need to change? Everything in TCP/IP protocol settings are set to obtain addresses automatically.
Another interesting thing to note is that I did not have this problem when I had XP in my car, and I connected to my wireless router with that pc too. But Internet sharing worked fine with it.

If the only things connected are the TyTn and a PC, then the PC will obtain an IP from the TyTn, and it will be 192.168.1.100. It will tell the pc that the gateway is 192.168.0.1, which is the TyTn. Since the TyTn has Bluetooth 2.0, I would speculate that you could connect additional BT devices to the same BT PAN, and the TytN would likely hand out additional addreses like 0.101, 0.102, etc. I have not tried that nor have I read about it.

See that's what I gathered too. So I don't know why it can't get out to the internet, unless it's that Vista just won't let it for some reason. This bugs me because Internet Sharing worked fine in XP, and BT DUN works fine with Vista with my other phone. Unfortunately I'm getting rid of that phone. If my Tytn had a DUN profile in the BT stack I'd be fine. Weak.

i tehering in wm6 vista using bluetooth ban

How to connect to internet on a laptop?

I have no problem to connect to the internet (to update weather, news etc) when I connect my P3300 to my desktop (which connect to the internet through a hardwire modem and a hardwire router). When I connect the P3300 to my laptop (the laptop is connect to internet through the WIFI rounter), I then cannot update those weather or news in my P3300. What setup do I need to change in the P3300 in order to be able to get to the internet through the laptop's WIFI connection? Thank you for any help.

Should happen automatically if you have a standing ActiveSync connection. No special settings needed. On the other hand - Check your firewall. Maybe some soft on the laptop is preventing your PDA from getting access to the internet!

Thanks Theonly1....one other thing though, I am using Vista ultimate x32....
not tried this yet but....just plug in and it will recognise the phone as a modem or GSM connection for internet surfing on the laptop?
Thanks again

Thanks for the feedback
Hi,
Thanks for the feedback. I have try to disable the firewall, but it still cannot connect to the internet. By the way, the laptop us window XT. If I enable the WIFI on the P3300, then it can connect to the internet by it's own WIFI. But if I disable it's own WIFI, then it did not connect to the internet throught the laptop's WIFI connection. I think there must be some setting in the network connection, so that it will be able to use the laptops WIFI and get information through it. But I do not know how. Any help is appreciated. Thanks again

wifi 2 laptop?

Hi I have m700 with a wifi connection and an olde laptop with no wifi, I have upgraded it with vista (My laptop) and can connect the pda via WMDC, and also have modem link in schap's wm6 rom. is there software or a possible way to use my m700's wifi connection through usb on laptop, then use the laptops internet like wifi card/adaptor? any help appreciated. v

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I have tried this already, this just routes ad-hoc (computer to Computer) wifi connection, the wifi I connect to is infrastructure. I need to use the wifi in my pda and somehow to use it through the usb port into my vista laptop, like as a wireless receiver or using the pdas wifi whilst its connected. thanks for that route, but been there, unless i'm missing something. please let me know if so. thanks

I see what your trying to do but im not sure you can do that,
I havnt tested it but i would try this:
you could give your PC a static IP and find the PDA's IP when its connected to your laptop via USB, then enter
Attach your PDA to a WiFi network and find its IP, then connect your laptop to the PDA via USB, then give your laptop a static IP in the same subnet as the PDA and give one of the DNS servers as the PDA's IP and the other as the DNS server thAt the PDA has picked up from the WiFi network.
Make sure IE is set to 'automaticlly detect proxy setting'. In my head this should work but i have found what i think and what can actuly happen is VERY different.
Let me know how it gets on or at least post the outcome.
Thank you

jab1a said:
I see what your trying to do but im not sure you can do that,
I havnt tested it but i would try this:
you could give your PC a static IP and find the PDA's IP when its connected to your laptop via USB, then enter
Attach your PDA to a WiFi network and find its IP, then connect your laptop to the PDA via USB, then give your laptop a static IP in the same subnet as the PDA and give one of the DNS servers as the PDA's IP and the other as the DNS server thAt the PDA has picked up from the WiFi network.
Make sure IE is set to 'automaticlly detect proxy setting'. In my head this should work but i have found what i think and what can actuly happen is VERY different.
Let me know how it gets on or at least post the outcome.
Thank you
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WOW! you know ur stuff, but i wouldn't know the first thing about the info you gave me. do a dummies guide and i'll try it. cheers for the info tho.

Hmm, dunno if that would work - no harm in trying though..
If you connect via usb then it will setup from the activsync and the dhcp within it, normally along the lines of 169.254.2.2 - but you would have to use this subnet to switch the laptop too (don't use 1 as that will most probs be the dhcp svr) in order to communicate with the device and this is where I see the problem.
You would only be connecting to the device, u can not use the wireless subnet as you have no connection to this just the pda, so if you set your laptop to the subnet of the wifi by rights the network should just look at you blankly as it will not be able to see past the activsync connection to get to the wifi subnet.
Or at least that's how I'd see it happening.

I think i'll just buy a wireless receiver. lol. haven't got a clue what you are both telling me. thanks anyway. maybe somebody can create a cab with settings if poss, or a program?

would there not be a hack or reg change, which in the wifi-router download at start of thread, which will add or change the ad-hoc connection to infrastructure instead? or would this be impossible? thanks

btw: you a running vista on a laptop which is so old that it doesn't have wifi???
i think you should go for a wifistick (~ 10-15 €?!?)