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Tilt2 Leds not working, and clicking closing

We got two tilt 2's yesterday. First, MINE (ugh) makes a click sound when putting the tilting screen back to flat. Doesnt do it when moving the screen anywhere but just as it gets back to completly flat to the base. A little click or snap noise like a peice of plastic breakage. It keeps doing it every time. The other one doesnt do this.
Secondly, right after we got them and left, i noticed her led was blinking showing power was on. Mine wasnt blinking at all. I just checked and i dont get a blinking blue light with blue tooth enabled either. I am not able to check the other tilt 2, but i suspect hers would be blue if the blue tooth was enabled.
Im thinking about hard resetting. If that doesnt cure it, exchange? Problem is, they were the only 3 the store had and some one else took the other as we did our thing.

I don't know about your other problems, but my phone also makes that noise when closing the screen flat. It doesnt really bother me that much so I don't plan on returning it unless it becomes worse.

How about the Tilted screen? when you touch it tilted, or shake it slightly when tilted, does the screen wobble? I got mine yesterday, and if I hold it at an angle to straight in my hand, when I touch the screen it 'plays' back and forth 3-4 degrees... very annoying
And yes, it clicks too when closed flat...
Me thinks it goes back for another unit.... how do your units behave? Is the screen firm when tilted, or does it wobble?

I've never gotten a blinking light with power on any HTC phones.
Maybe it's a voicemail indicator?
I haven't learned the ins and outs of the LEDs yet. I know with EnergyROM installed I don't see a Bluetooth blinkenlight when BT is on, but currently I'm set as not discoverable and not paired with anything.

duplicate... where's the delete?

This is bothering me too. Lights don't do anything unless it is connected to a charger. My old Tilt would at least flash to let you know you had a signal (and it was on). I also don't get a flash when the GPS is active like I did with the Tilt, nor WiFi. If you go to the notifications section, there are "flash light for ..." options for things like new txt msgs, new voicemail, missed call, etc., but they can't be enabled: they are all grayed out. Someone had a cab out for the old Tilt that would let you customize the behavior of the lights, but I don't think I ever tried it.
As far as the click, mine clicks too, but it doesn't bother me. I'm just glad my screen doesn't wobble (rotate) back and forth like the demo unit in the store did.

We have 4 old tilts and every single one the lights work. If the phone is on, left led blinks every 30 seconds or so indicating power or signal (not sure). Turn on wifi right led flashes (yellow?) every 30 seconds or so, and enable blue tooth and right led blinks blue.
Now with the tilt 2's
Checked my wifes phone. No blinking at all. Then we noticed a left flash when there was an unread anything, think it was text at the time. Both have solid left led for charging.
I had hard reset my phone for nothing, i guess.
Went to att this morning. He was gonna get me another one today or tomorrow. Checked my wifes phone and came to realize the leds just arent doing what i expected them to do.
The tilting back to flat and snapping sound.......
He had a demo and it was doing it to. Ok, so maybe my wifes phone is messed up cause hers aint doing it. He is gonna call me when they get another one in tomorrow and tell me what tht one does ..... off to the mall
Go to att in the mall, find another tilt 2 on display. It makes the snap sound too.
NOW i am thinking my wifes phone isnt right cause all the rest are making that noise. And if you go real real slow, it feels like it is supposed to do that. Indicates that it is closed? I DONT KNOW

To me it almost feels like the hinges are magnetic, but that sounds strange and unlikely.

carhigh said:
We have 4 old tilts and every single one the lights work. If the phone is on, left led blinks every 30 seconds or so indicating power or signal (not sure). Turn on wifi right led flashes (yellow?) every 30 seconds or so, and enable blue tooth and right led blinks blue.
Now with the tilt 2's
Checked my wifes phone. No blinking at all. Then we noticed a left flash when there was an unread anything, think it was text at the time. Both have solid left led for charging.
I had hard reset my phone for nothing, i guess.
Went to att this morning. He was gonna get me another one today or tomorrow. Checked my wifes phone and came to realize the leds just arent doing what i expected them to do.
The tilting back to flat and snapping sound.......
He had a demo and it was doing it to. Ok, so maybe my wifes phone is messed up cause hers aint doing it. He is gonna call me when they get another one in tomorrow and tell me what tht one does ..... off to the mall
Go to att in the mall, find another tilt 2 on display. It makes the snap sound too.
NOW i am thinking my wifes phone isnt right cause all the rest are making that noise. And if you go real real slow, it feels like it is supposed to do that. Indicates that it is closed? I DONT KNOW
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Hello there... just to let you know... clicking sound is completely normal... (mine as well as 3 other I have got in my hands... all do the clicking... so not to worry... (your wife's tilt 2 not doing click... yeap... that's the one with issues not yours) about led... I have Original Tilt and now Tilt 2... just to confirm again... yes... original Tilt flashes left light about every 15 sec... while new Tilt 2 flashes only on new email/text/mms
I wonder if there is a way to remap the blinking lights via registry in order to set them like Original Tilt...

RTFM & search. there is only a green & orange LED. there is no blinking lights for bluetooth/wifi/cell phone signal. there is nothing wrong with your phone. The light only blinks for whatever you set in the Sounds & Notification settings, low battery, & charging.
as for the clicking when you go back to flat: my Tmo TP2 has done this since day 1 as did the first one i had. I just think of it as a auditory confirmation that the screen is back to where it's supposed to be.

xnifex said:
The light only blinks for whatever you set in the Sounds & Notification settings...
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Too bad that's grayed out so we can't set them. Mine appears to be set to only blink for five minutes. That's fine if I happen to look at the phone within five minutes of the event.

dscline said:
Too bad that's grayed out so we can't set them. Mine appears to be set to only blink for five minutes. That's fine if I happen to look at the phone within five minutes of the event.
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Any fix for this? Ideally I would want to see if I have missed event past the 5 minute cutoff... I wonder if there is a registry setting. any help??
TIA.

LEDs
Page 26 of my Manual says;
* The Notification LED shows a:
*Flashing green light when there are new SMS, MMS or email messages, missed calls, or reminders.
*Solid green light when the device is connected to the power adapter or a computer and the battery is fully charged.
*Solid amber light when the battery is being charged.
*Flashing amber light when the remaining battery level reaches below 10%.
Hope that helps.

I don't think the clicking noise when the screen seats in the flat position is due to plastic flex. It sounds metallic to me -- as though one of the components of the metal hinge is seating into another -- i.e. sort of a mechanical clickstop when the flat position is reached.
The screen wobble in tilted position is due to the continuously variable tilt angle feature. Doesn't bother me, as long as it doesn't get so loose with wear that the screen doesn't maintain a set angle. The alternatives would be either fixed tilt positions (click stops) instead of a continuously variable tilt; or making the hinge so tight that it would be a pain to tilt it.

LED Color Change?

I have a buddy that has the Nexus 1 and after he installed 2.2, his LED light would change for different notifications like,
Blue LED = Handcent Message
Purple LED = Craiglist Post
etc.....
Is this something that is implemented inside our version of Froyo?? OR is that even possible on our EVO's

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I have a buddy that has the Nexus 1 and after he installed 2.2, his LED light would change for different notifications like,
Blue LED = Handcent Message
Purple LED = Craiglist Post
etc.....
Is this something that is implemented inside our version of Froyo?? OR is that even possible on our EVO's
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Wouldn't the led's have to be physically changed to have the different colors? AFAIK our evos only have a red and a green led installed. I guess its possible I could be wrong but I don't think so....although it has happened before....hehe

Not necessarily. I would imagine it could be changed, unless there are 7 or so LEDs in the N1.
P.S. John Denks sucks.
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Thats correct. Evo's only LED colors are amber and green.
Also, I believe these sort of questions belong in the Q&A section. Just a heads up for next time
EDIT: See here for details on LED Swap.

kpoz said:
Not necessarily. I would imagine it could be changed, unless there are 7 or so LEDs in the N1.
P.S. John Denks sucks.
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I don't think software or firmware can determine the color of an led....

You only need red,blue, green to make all the colors imaginable...since our phone only has amber and green, then theoretically we can combine those colors to make more...unfortunately, what colors could those be?

surrealmethod said:
You only need red,blue, green to make all the colors imaginable...since our phone only has amber and green, then theoretically we can combine those colors to make more...unfortunately, what colors could those be?
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theoretically true IF you could realistically vary the intensity of the LEDs, but one LEDs are not generally that readily variable and two, they are most likely connected to digital outputs so they are either Off or On.

Will not work that way. They are individual parts and on the evo the green is angled to the left. And the amber is angled to the right...so even if you could turn them on at the same time they would not be focused to one point to blend into a different color. Give up can't be done! Unless you swap out the leds.

What about varying the duty cycle of the leds, theoretically that whould result in a color blend even though leds are angled.
However, there aren't many colors that could be created by mixing green and amber.
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Interesting
On my nexus the led only blinked white, and many people challenged whether or not it can be done, but eventually there was a mod released allowing to choose between any color I wanted to track ball to glow.
But if the LEDs are in different places like stated above then I think it would be more of a challenge.

from what i have noticed with my evo. the way the LED light is set up is: A electric current flows one way to emit a green light, or it flows the opposite way to emit the amber color. This is something I have learned in a circuits class and seems logical that it would work this way. I dont think with this situation having different colored LEDs will work.

hved999 said:
from what i have noticed with my evo. the way the LED light is set up is: A electric current flows one way to emit a green light, or it flows the opposite way to emit the amber color. This is something I have learned in a circuits class and seems logical that it would work this way. I dont think with this situation having different colored LEDs will work.
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Have you tested this? A typical led is a diode where current can only flow one way, and based on the fact that the leds are displaced, it appears that there are 2 leds.
Additionally, even if only one led could be on at one time, alternating the emission while controlling duty cycle could create an effect of mixed color.
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Most likely it's two leds built together. White leds can be made the same way, with a red, green, and blue diode built together. When all three are on, the color will look white.
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On CyanogenMod 6 (8/4 nightly build), the LED alternates orange and green for text messages and just orange for email and other notifications.
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dbolot1 said:
Have you tested this? A typical led is a diode where current can only flow one way, and based on the fact that the leds are displaced, it appears that there are 2 leds.
Additionally, even if only one led could be on at one time, alternating the emission while controlling duty cycle could create an effect of mixed color.
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There are bi-color LEDs that only have 2 leads. Internally they have 2 LEDs wired in an inverse parallel configuration. You apply power one way, green... Apply power the other, yellow.
A better scenario is if the EVO has a tri-color LED (uses 3 leads), which means one set = Red, other set = Green, both sets = Yellow.

[Q] camera led traffic light tripper?

i was wondering if anyone had made an app that would use the evo's dual cam led to trip traffic lights.
i used to have a tool that had 2 high intensity leds that would strobe at diffrent rates in order to trip traffic lights, attached on my motorcycle. it would be nice to be able to do it with my phone so i wouldnt have to get a seprate unit.
i have seen some apps out there that strobe but they use the screen not the leds.
-gabriel-

bishopswar said:
i was wondering if anyone had made an app that would use the evo's dual cam led to trip traffic lights.
i used to have a tool that had 2 high intensity leds that would strobe at diffrent rates in order to trip traffic lights, attached on my motorcycle. it would be nice to be able to do it with my phone so i wouldnt have to get a seprate unit.
i have seen some apps out there that strobe but they use the screen not the leds.
-gabriel-
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LOL the ol' high beams trick on a phone. Nice idea!

Strobe App
Have you tried MotoTorch LED? That app has an awesome strobe!!

i havent but i will give it a shot. i seen about a thousand apps that strobe but none that take advantage of the dual leds.
the unit that i had set up on my bike had 2 strobes and it would cycle through all the emergancy cycles

bishopswar said:
i havent but i will give it a shot. i seen about a thousand apps that strobe but none that take advantage of the dual leds.
the unit that i had set up on my bike had 2 strobes and it would cycle through all the emergancy cycles
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that will be nice i seen a app that is a torch a uses the both led with the brightest level and it warns you for got where though

Most MIRT receivers are looking for mainly infrared light, not visible light. This also makes it *painfully* obvious to any traffic or security camera in the area when you are using such a device. I doubt the visible-light LEDs in the EVO have the power to trigger MIRT receivers, but even if they did, you're asking for trouble (and also potentially putting other people at risk) by doing so.

**** it, I want one of these for school.
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bishopswar said:
i was wondering if anyone had made an app that would use the evo's dual cam led to trip traffic lights.
i used to have a tool that had 2 high intensity leds that would strobe at diffrent rates in order to trip traffic lights, attached on my motorcycle. it would be nice to be able to do it with my phone so i wouldnt have to get a seprate unit.
i have seen some apps out there that strobe but they use the screen not the leds.
-gabriel-
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this sounds illegal, and also a really selfish thing to do- why do you get priority over everyone else sitting in traffic?

Tesla LED does Morse code. Maybe you can set it to flash, "I'm in a bigger hurry than everyone else."
Lol. Seriously though, there was a guy that got in trouble for doing something like that,
http://www.news4jax.com/automotive/8768516/detail.html

xeren said:
this sounds illegal, and also a really selfish thing to do- why do you get priority over everyone else sitting in traffic?
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If your ride a motorcycle or moped be prepared to sit for a long time at red lights with no traffic around. Most usually run the red light.

phatmanxxl said:
If your ride a motorcycle or moped be prepared to sit for a long time at red lights with no traffic around. Most usually run the red light.
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There is a legal option as well...
There is a unit that attaches to the bottom of the bike and effectively triggers the traffic light sensor, so the light "Knows" there is a vehicle waiting.
http://www.greenlightstuff.com/trigger.html

The Torch app in Cyanogen has a strobe feature that uses both LEDs...

Hell yea!! It does work Ive used it daily for about a month, well worth it might as use all the great extras I get places alot faster specially during rush hour lol!!

The strobe that changes a traffic light is not just a flashing light; The OPTICOM emitter you see on fire equipment and ambulances must emit 3 signals in sync, the visible light frequency tells the light it is an emergency vehicle, otherwise it will only hold a green light green ( this is for rapid transit they are fitted with filters), then it must flash at 16 hrz as well as emit light at a specific infrared frequency; embedded in the infrared is digital data that allows the light to record the agency and unit number activating the light along with a date and time stamp and the status of all lights and the speed when the vehicle passes through.
Also not all traffic lights are fitted with an OPTICOM receiver, or receivers in all directions. And some municipalities may also program the light to go red in all directions instead of green in your direction of travel.
If all this does not match up; the light will not change. A lot of people think that flashing head lights or other lights will work; and may even feel/swear that they do because the light changes, after all it will change eventually ;-) , but it does not.
Is far as I know it is not illegal to use one though. as the light techs are always out there with them testing the lights.
The magnets on the bottom of the bike will work on ground sensor lights though. You should not have any problems with the lights that have a camera looking sensor mounted on them.

firesquirt said:
The strobe that changes a traffic light is not just a flashing light; The OPTICOM emitter you see on fire equipment and ambulances must emit 3 signals in sync, the visible light frequency tells the light it is an emergency vehicle, otherwise it will only hold a green light green ( this is for rapid transit they are fitted with filters), then it must flash at 16 hrz as well as emit light at a specific infrared frequency; embedded in the infrared is digital data that allows the light to record the agency and unit number activating the light along with a date and time stamp and the status of all lights and the speed when the vehicle passes through.
Also not all traffic lights are fitted with an OPTICOM receiver, or receivers in all directions. And some municipalities may also program the light to go red in all directions instead of green in your direction of travel.
If all this does not match up; the light will not change. A lot of people think that flashing head lights or other lights will work; and may even feel/swear that they do because the light changes, after all it will change eventually ;-) , but it does not.
Is far as I know it is not illegal to use one though. as the light techs are always out there with them testing the lights.
The magnets on the bottom of the bike will work on ground sensor lights though. You should not have any problems with the lights that have a camera looking sensor mounted on them.
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Exactly. I've been installing Opticoms for the better part of the last 10 years on fire and rescue apparatus. It's so funny to see people that are going down the road flashing their headlights and using retail strobe lights thinking that it changes the lights. What most of those people fail to realize is that the Opticom is primarily Infrared, and usually the strobing light just signifies that the system is operational.
1. Even if you did actually get a unit that works, think about it, the system is logging an emergency vehicle as going through the light, and if it gets back to them as abusing the system, the responders may loose the privilege of having it.
2. Get caught with one in you personal vehicle here in Virginia and it's considered tampering with a traffic signal, which will fetch you a pretty heavy fine and possibly (hopefully, in my opinion) jail time.
I ride a bike too, it suck sitting there, but I do it anyways. Don't take out your impatience on the emergency responders.

[Q] Custom Led light?

Is there any way to make a led light glow behind the battery? I have a clear case where you can see the battery and all that. I want to make a small led light where it glows threw the case. Any ideas?
"Googly eyes"

This may be close to what you're looking for. At the very least it should help with a starting point: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=988835

That does look good. I would take the wires and run them through the inside of the back housing tough. Tape them to the inside of the housing anywhere that there isnt a connection point and straight to the battery progns. The only thing I would worry about is will the light stay lit all the time? If so that would drain your battery pretty bad, even with a low consumption led it will still have an impact on it.

[Q] Red led permanently on: ultrasonic help?

Red led is permanently on. That's quite common for Defy MB526(5) owners after vapour and humidity under the screen. Other models also face an issue with red led. There are discussions over proximity sensor and battery might be a reason for Red led weird behaviour. Here I am trying to clarify and ask whether ultrasonic bath can be helpful. Except screwing hardware there was an idea to put the phone into ultrasonic vibrations. Probably that helps to get rid of micro particles left by water (sea water) and minerals and salts. Is there anyone who had tried that or supported these measures?
There are some ways possible and not checked on practice:
1) freeing a screw behind the proximity sensor on Defy
2) placing device under supersonic waves to clean the sensor
3) switching off (red led) proximity sensor at all via software
If you have faced red led permanently on and/or you have fixed it, got any ideas pls place a comment with your ideas!

321fly said:
Red led is permanently on. That's quite common for Defy MB526(5) owners after vapour and humidity under the screen. Other models also face an issue with red led. There are discussions over proximity sensor and battery might be a reason for Red led weird behaviour. Here I am trying to clarify and ask whether ultrasonic bath can be helpful. Except screwing hardware there was an idea to put the phone into ultrasonic vibrations. Probably that helps to get rid of micro particles left by water (sea water) and minerals and salts. Is there anyone who had tried that or supported these measures?
There are some ways possible and not checked on practice:
1) freeing a screw behind the proximity sensor on Defy
2) placing device under supersonic waves to clean the sensor
3) switching off (red led) proximity sensor at all via software
If you have faced red led permanently on and/or you have fixed it, got any ideas pls place a comment with your ideas!
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I now own two defys, my original (mb525 non plus version) well and truly battered ( but still working - just ) defy and a brand new one (defy+) from Three ( uk mobile phone network opperator) who are/were selling them off unlocked for £69.99
Way back in August of 2011 my defy got qwet, and was then dried out in the sun - it didnt like it and the red LED came on ( not at full brightness) - there was also some misting around the LED/proximity sensor, and the top left of the screen - see post here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1209041&page=2
The Dim red LED light never went away, and its still there. However after a few years, in the top left of the screen there appears to be a lot of dust/white specks between the glass and the screen, just enough to iritiate when its being used in daylight.
As i now have two defys, at some point when i have time I will dissassemble my old Defy to see what damage ( if any ) has occurred.

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; I own two defys, my original non plus version) well and truly battered ( but still working - just ) defy and a brand new one (defy+) from Three ( uk mobile phone network opperator) who are/were selling them off unlocked for £69.99 ...
...at some point when i have time I will dissassemble my old Defy to see what damage ( if any ) has occurred.
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Looking forward for that! Pls find your time ASAP. Led on my device isn't dim. It is rather bright working at full power which is annoying.