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Phone freezes when in standby

When ever the phone is in standby for a few minutes or so, it refuses to power back on when I press the power button. The only way to bring the phone back is a soft reset. While it is frozen in standby mode it does not receive phones calls, emails or texts. Im running lvsw 03-26. I noticed it didn’t happen with lvsw 3-20…but it was happening with both versions of xda live. I did a few hard resets to see if that will get rid of it…but nothing. I tried searching high and low on the site and even read wiki for answers but no one seems to know what is going on. I saw a few people post up the same issue but still no help….so I decided to open a new thread. Can anyone help?

It happens. Do you have a Storage Card in? If so, take it out for a while and see what happens. What 3rd party apps are you using too. I know Wisbar Advance causes this issue. Can you list what you're running and maybe I can see if you're having the same problem I was.

I've had the same problem with most WM6 roms. Having upgraded to BlackEd2.0 the problem seems to have gone though...

are you running a today plugin off storage card perhaps?
none of the roms i've tried had power on problems

Sometimes you can have that problem with having a cluttered SD Card or having a program that is accessing online in the background.

I have a 512 storage card. I’m not running much 3rd party apps…I have Mundu IM, Microsoft live search, Google maps, WM black commander, macromedia flash player active x…and that’s it. I Had mundu, live search and Google maps installed to my storage card. After reading rabanJR’s post, I uninstalled them from the card and installed them to the phone. I then went back to the card and deleted all program folders and files….I also did a general clean up of the card. Lets see what happens now.
Also to swampy…im not running much of anything on my today screen….just the messages, calendar and the com manager plug in that came with the rom. That’s all. Lets hope for the best.

Bad news, it froze up twice again today. I’m all out of ideas….any more suggestions?

funny thing, that just happened to me today. greed led was flashing, but i couldn't get out of standby mode without soft resetting. maybe some kinda software issue? Its the first time it's happened to me since going to wm6. i did notice it before however.

rzanology said:
Bad news, it froze up twice again today. I’m all out of ideas….any more suggestions?
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maybe try a hard reset?

What Radio Rom?
Have you flashed a new radio lately? If not, what radio ROM version do you have? I had an issue with my TyTN that was definitely a radio issue. Flashed to 1.38.0.11 and haven't had a single issue with freezing since.
Just an idea, of course.
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Bad news, it froze up twice again today. I’m all out of ideas….any more suggestions?
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yes sir...i tried many hard resets. A radio upgrade is one of the things i tried...i saw a few people trying it. i went to 1.34 though. im going to flash to 1.38 riiight now! im desperate right now. i'll let you know how it goes.

I had the same problem until I upgraded to black 2.0. I had the radio 1.38.0.11 from the time I upgraded to wm6 and my 8525 was freezing until upgrading to black 2.0 solved my problem.

well i have good news. i upgraded to LVSW(2007/04/08) last night...and so far so good. didnt freeze once today. hope the issue is gone for good. thanks all for the help.

same exact issue here running LVSW 03-26 (goes unresponsive while in standby, green blinking LED, soft reset to recover). 2gb card installed...i'll try removing it to see if freezes go away.
rzanology: if LVSW 04/08 fixes the issue, please post back and let us know!
installed (all to device, not card)
salling clicker
resco explorer/registry/ftp/today
kyphur hold comm button toggle
wmxl apps 8525 keyboard fix
shogun cing

will do...one more note...i updated to 1.38.11 i think it was. what funny is right after i updated the radio the phone froze on the first standby. while i was coming back to post i saw the new rom update for lvsw.

This has a been a long reported problem on WM6 ROMs. 'wont wake from sleep' is the common phrase. Radio and bacground app using net I think was the problem, but no real solution if I remember correctly. On LVSW 3 26 I have gone weeks without this though. In the beginning LVSW 3 26 still did the freeze but after a week it stopped and works pretty good now. Sounds like MS is behind it since it makes no sense at all. LOL.

rzanology said:
When ever the phone is in standby for a few minutes or so, it refuses to power back on when I press the power button. The only way to bring the phone back is a soft reset. While it is frozen in standby mode it does not receive phones calls, emails or texts. Im running lvsw 03-26. I noticed it didn’t happen with lvsw 3-20…but it was happening with both versions of xda live. I did a few hard resets to see if that will get rid of it…but nothing. I tried searching high and low on the site and even read wiki for answers but no one seems to know what is going on. I saw a few people post up the same issue but still no help….so I decided to open a new thread. Can anyone help?
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Wow, I thought I was crazy becasue nobody mentioned this issue before. I had this problem from day 1.
However, i recently noticed that the 1.38 Radio was eating up my battery life and downgraded to 1.34. This combined with installing Black2.0 seems to have taken care of this problem. I just came back from a weekend away from my phone (which i know is a crime since it is so much fun to use) and it woke up right away.
What Radio do you have?

How long are your phones in standby when it happens?

well....bad news again. even after the new rom update it is still freezing. do you guys think this is hardware? I never froze on wm5...i can't see it being a hardware issue. im almost tempted to call cingular and have them send another one, but i dont know how to go back to wm5. for me, the phone will be in standby for 30 minutes or so....then wont turn back on. any more suggestions?

try disabling everything completely.
1 events and notifications
2 beam auto receive
3 bluetooth
4 wifi
5 put device into flight mode
6 all startup items (including those in rom) move to a temp for now
7 disable activesync
8 disable push email
9 disable all today items
1. disable error reporting customer experience
11 remove anything that reads the sd card
12 remove sd card entirely
13 remove sim card
literally disable everything that runs automatically or otherwise.
power down ur phone by pressing power button for 3 secs. shutdown. leave it for 20secs.
power it back up. then test it now.
if u have a problem now then it could be scary bear notifications fix only. u could have a notification queu problem that is causing ur device to contradicory items simultaneously.
this could be caused activesync so no matter which rom u use it comes back via activesync of calendar or tasks.
if at this stage its fixed then bring things back systematically with the most important first like the sim card. turn off flight mode
c how u go. sometimes pda just gets confused and doesnt wake up from a sleep to well (bit like me in the morning... sometimes bed and sleep is just way to good compared to work/life)...
good luck.

Slow typing keyboard Black 2.5

Does anyone have a problem with a slow lagging keyboard while typing text messages. I noticed it after I installed the Black 2.5 rom. I have installed the keyboard mapping fix but that did not help the lagging issue.

I been typing like crazy today on my 8525/2.5 with MSN Live Messenger. Seems very fast to me..

I had the same delay...Can't remember if disabling the word completion took care of it or installing the memory performance cab from JJ that took care of it. I'm banking on the memory performance cab though.

I have noticed this issue a little bit, but if I remember correctly Ive had the problem even before isntalling any of the roms, and it only happened for the first set of characters that I types (usually the first word).
Has anyone else noticed this with the standard wm5 roms?

I've experienced the same issue.

I wonder if it was one of the patch cabs that I installed cause I have not seen a lag at all [yet]. Perhaps it is just waiting to pop up on me.

odie3 said:
I wonder if it was one of the patch cabs that I installed cause I have not seen a lag at all [yet]. Perhaps it is just waiting to pop up on me.
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Are you talking about the pop up keyboard?
I think what the OP was taliking about is that when you first start typing with the pull out keyboard there is a slight lag, like with me, I'll start typing - it hesitates - and then it like catches up. Not only that but the screen even goes dim for a moment .
I don't remember if I had this issue before or not.

Nope, I was talking about the pull out keyboard. Seems to work very well so far. I just retested it in Work and in MSN IM.

odie3;1250895 said:
Nope, I was talking about the pull out keyboard. Seems to work very well so far. I just retested it in Work and in MSN IM.
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Oh well.
I'm not going to concern myself too much with it, because I'm hoping by tomorrow I'll be running 3.0

Similiar typing issue here on 8525
I've noticed the same typing issue using both Black 1.2 and Black 2.5 were it often lags or simply skips a letter (usually "h" after "t" leaving "te" instead of "the" or "s" after "i" leaving "I" instead of "is")
I tried uninstalling and reinstalling the 8525 keyboard fix cab, but it does not help.
Two things I have noticed:
1.) The typing problem does not seem to appear until several days after I flash the ROM.
2.) It really only seems to affect the Messaging app. (When I type into PIE forms or Notes, the problem does not seem to exist)
Definitely did not have this problem in WM5, so I am hoping that the problem will be gone in Black 3.0

this is a real problem. I have experienced it with all wm6 roms I have installed. I have a strong feeling its related to the suggested word list that comes up....but this is a rediculous problem for us to have to deal with and should be fixed. I also agree that its limited to the messaging app.
Ezra

yes the problem i was originally talking about is with the messaging app only. i have no problems in word, or IE. I have the memory performance cab installed but noticed it before that as well. does anyone see a difference with the suggestive words disabled?

Put 3.0 on Hold
njmarchetti said:
...clip...I am hoping that the problem will be gone in Black 3.0
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I'll PM JJ and ask him to hold off on the release of 3.0 until he's sure we won't have this issue.
Just Kidding. .

I actually started a thread about this a while ago but titled it in reference to skipping keys because I type so fast with the thumb keyboard that the device cannot keep up and omits some of my key-presses. However, someone suggested something that I had tried with WM5 (but it didn't work then) but hadn't thought to do with WM6.
Go to Settings>Input>Word Completion(tab) and change the "Suggest after entering" setting to something such as 3 or more letters. I have mine set to 4 letters and have zero problems with skipping or slow typing unless in a third party program such a TomTom.

a little out of topic...
but after changing to black 2.5 my time zone seems to be weird....i had tried to set it to GMT+8 Singapore time....but after a while it will change to another country thats GMT+8 but when i change it back to GMT+8 Singapore time.....it will be one hour early.....

I have the slow keyboard problem too.. Its making me mad.. And the black2.5 rom seems to slow down a heck of allot after a week or so use.. Any ideas why would this be aswell?? I only have 4apps installed.. One on today screen and rest only when i use it..

a slow keyboard is one thing, but skipping letters is another. (This issue pertains to not only Black, but also Custel, LVSW, and Dutty)
The thing is, when i text message, i start typing immediately after the window pops up. But for some reason, it lags, and then when it catches up i notice that my first 3 words are so are all butchered cuz letters were dropped. I didn't experience this issue with my MDA Vario / 8125. The worst that would happen is the text would lag, but would eventually catch up to my typing. And it WOULD NOT drop any letters. With the new wm6 roms for hermes, im noticing lag and letter dropping. I've tried the suggestion of even turning off autocomplete, and setting 1 word, 2 words, 3 words, and 4 words. Still having the same issue. I opened a thread about it long ago, but it just got closed because they "supposedly" deemed it a fixe issue. Well its not!
To clarify: I'm not trying to bash any of the rom chefs' work, as i am very thankful for what they do. But it would be very nice to have this issue addressed and fixed.

Has anyone tried changing the Up/Down Control repeats....
Settings/Buttons/Up Down Control?
I put mine up to max, and seems to have fixed my problem....

@ **Milo**
Hi and thanks for the sugestion , i tried it and my slow typing issue has gone. As an experiment i switched the rate back to where it was (about one third of the way up the slider) and its still gone. It seems switching the slider up to max cleared whatever setting was causing the slow down.
Im going to leave the phone on standby for a while then try it again to see if this has any effect on it.

*MILO* said:
Has anyone tried changing the Up/Down Control repeats....
Settings/Buttons/Up Down Control?
I put mine up to max, and seems to have fixed my problem....
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And it seems to have cured mine too. Thanks mate.

Unresponsive keys on Hermes

Does anyone else experience unresponsive Messaging, IE, ok, etc, keys?
I know there were brief threads about this a while back, and most were either not conclusive, or someone blamed the hardware.
I did a test, and flashed almost all current cooked and uncooked WM6 ROMs, and every single one of them has this issue.
Then I flashed WM5, and voila! No key problem.
Any ideas, or suggestions to further troubleshoot this?
TIA
Ali -

i have problems with unresponding keys too. I have too push very hard on the qwerty keyboard. Espesially the "U" key. No matter what ROM I use.

Sounds similar to what I'm referring to in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319516

I can confirm that you're not alone. I have random problems with an unresponsive keyboard as well. It happens occasionally on all WM6 Roms I've used (currently on AT&T leaked rom), and without any discernable pattern. I don't THINK it is a problem with the actual keyboard hardware, but I've not tested this specific issue enough to be totally sure. Only a soft reset will bring the keyboard back, and then it may be fine for days. I haven't tried pressing hard on the keys to try to bring it back, as others have. If normal force doesn't work, then I will just reboot.
I hope this info helps.

Seems to be a common thing. I get this sometimes too. I have found it happened slightly less often with either Faria's super-clean or Black Satin. That could be coincidence thoguh.
Although a physical problem which requires the insides to be cleaned is something that could happen to any unit, there is an issues with Hermes keys failing to respond either quickly or at all in certain situations.
I'm honestly not sure if anyone's done enough testing to ascertain the exact circumstances that this can come up in, but it seems that a Soft Reset will always sort it as you'd expect - except for 'physical' problems of course.

Im also getting this problem now and then.. It just happens when im using the keypad allot, or typing faster then the ppc can put it on screen it seems.. But its almost most of the time when im using java apps and MMS and SMS. Wierd..
I got this problem even worse when i had Black Satin installed.. It will happen as soon as i start typing something..

updates?
I hate to ressurect this old thread, but was there any update to this issue that I might have missed? I am still having the dead keys issue, and I know it's not hardware as the pressing of the keys wakes up the device but doesn't do what the key is supposed to do.

I've had this Happen to Me Since Upgrading to WM6. When On WM5 It never Happened. Usually after a soft reset It's ok on WM6. I say Test out some WM5 for like a Week And if it doesnt' happen then It's the OS. Prolly Software to Hardware issues.

BackLight Issue

Hi Folks,
I´m a new user of Excalibur, and i´ve noticed an strange behavior, from time to time the screen turns on, and then off in few secs, even with the keylock enabled.
and it happens with no action like new message, or a call...
I had an mpx220 and sonthing like this used to happen... can it be some kind of signal lost an then come back?
I leave on a shadow area just between 2 antennas!!!
Thanks in advance
Regards

No One?
tks

do you have email that it is checking? I know mine turns on every 5 minutes if i set the email to download that often.

backlight issue
its a well known bug in for the S620...google it....i think alot is written in the howardforums.....hope this helps i either reset the device or change the homescreen theme to the simplest one...still it turns on but not that often anymore...or i dont see it....hehe

Touch pro 2 screen not powering off

Hi folks, having a slight issue with my TP2. It is running the preinstalled vodafone rom for the UK. (version 1.14.161.6 (50207) WWE)
Over the last two days it has stopped automatically powering down the screen when not being used. The backlight switches off as normal, but the screen does not shut down until i press the power button. So if I forget, the screen can stay on all night, killing the battery.
Have been into the settings,on the power screen, and checked all 4 boxes are checked for the times to shut off the backlight and screen on both battery and mains power, and they are.
Any ideas? I have not installed any new software so am stumped. Any common causes of this behaviour?
Cheers
Jon

did you change it through the manila settings tab or start/settings/system/power/backlight ? the reason why i ask is because sometimes when you set settings through manila tab settings, the settings dont work. try deactivating manila, then start/settings/system/power/backlight , then reactivate manila. hope that helps. if not im stumped too.

Is manila part of touchflo? If so I don't have it enabled, I just use spb shell on top of winmo 6.1, so yes was using start/settings/power method.
However, not sure if I have hit upon the problem - I use a program called g-alarm (which is one of the best programs ever), and in it's settings there is a way to keep the screen on when the alarm is snoozed. I recently enabled this, and wonder if it might have messed up the os settings somehow.
I tried uninstalling g-alarm last night and it made no difference, but since restoring a backup, and changing the screen-on setting within g-alarm to off the phone is working normally.
I daren't re-enable the setting to test it, just in case the phone gets messed up again for good this time so this might be a total red herring, and perhaps it was just the restore that did the trick (although have restoring before at least 3 or 4 times with no joy). Will report back when I dare to mess again.

cool to here you are back to normal lol. it would have been a major hassle if you had alot of apps, accounts and whatnot to reinstall. i got really pissed at g-alarm one time when it wouldnt stop going off (phantom alarm) so i will never use it again. you might want to find the thread from where you got it and report the bug. maybe someone else has the same problem and the developer came out with a patch or upgrade for it.

Had same problem on 2 phones
I had same problem on 2 phones- Tilt2 and Kaiser (Tilt). Problem was.... Microsoft Live. When mail account set to ..As Arrived... phone doesn't go to sleep and keeps screen on permanently. Battery was empty in half of the day. After I switched to use POP or IMAP mail and stopped using Live, everything became normal and works excellent.

Here is the Answer
Maybe you have played some games and did not close it by the normal way..
Try to change the registry:
自动关屏时间
HKCU\ControlPanel\BackLight\
"BatteryTimeOut" = 10
Then
另一种方法是在HKCU\ControlPanel\Power\
Display=25 改成自己想要的值
If there is not one,create it by yourself..

Well, it still happened today, so I think that rules out the g-alarm backlight setting. However, it worked fine most of the time, so intermittent.
Papasha, I think you could be onto something there, I do use MS live. Be a shame to lose the push mail though, but that's the next thing i'll try disabling if it recurs again.
Will try that too fishman if problem comes back, the backlight key is present but the display setting is not. Easily created though.

*post Updated on 28-1-10*.
The problem did start recurring again, so I tried the suggestion to disable the hotmail pushmail (sync items as they arrive) and that has definitely sorted the problem. As a very welcome side effect the phone suffers major slow downs far less now, if at all. I still use livemail but just set it to sync every 60 mins.