At a Microsoft Technet presentation I attended today in London the MS people told me HTC are going to stop using Broadcom BT stacks and switch all their models to MS BT stacks
Does/will the MS stack support A2DP or BT keyboard?
I know the MS stack handles keyboards and Stereo headsets.
Thats excellent news. Bluetooth works great on the magician (MS) but is totally shocking on the XDA 2s and all the iPaqs (Widcomm). My experience is with BT active sync and BT GPS.
We should start to see more fun bluetooth software since its free to use the MS stack but Widcomm is so expensive to get the SDK. I'm talking thousands of dollars.
Thats excellent news. Bluetooth works great on the magician (MS) but is totally shocking on the XDA 2s and all the iPaqs (Widcomm). My experience is with BT active sync and BT GPS.
We should start to see more fun bluetooth software since its free to use the MS stack but Widcomm is so expensive to get the SDK. I'm talking thousands of dollars.
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AAAH so that explains th lack of decent bluetooth games.
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I wish i knew how to hack the xda's those who can are lucky. The point of this post is to see if a few hackers and developers can conquer the bluetooth headset voice dialling issue. It would send waves through the community if achieved and would be a real class feature which the XDA's do deserve. .....Just a thought
David
it's not a question of hacking it's a question of developing software which would listen to the stream of sound comming from the headset and recognize and dial or link it with a voice dialer program
Yes, if it was achievable I am sure it would have been done by now. The XDA 2 is severely brain damaged in my opinion, so much potential lost through releasing it with a bluetooth stack that doesnt do the job that it should. When I saw bluetooth as part of the spec, I thought I could plug in a headset and use it for voice dialling, in fact it was one of the features that made me buy...................you know the rest of the story. :?
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.. When I saw bluetooth as part of the spec, I thought I could plug in a headset and use it for voice dialling, in fact it was one of the features that made me buy...
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Same here :x It really is quite an oversight.
it truely is.... strange a big software company has not tried devkoping something. If its to do with the bluetooth stack there is a program out there that lets you edit the stacks and reduce the amount of them to allow for highier transfer rates would this help.... just searching for ideas....
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it truely is.... strange a big software company has not tried devkoping something. If its to do with the bluetooth stack there is a program out there that lets you edit the stacks and reduce the amount of them to allow for highier transfer rates would this help.... just searching for ideas....
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The main player in Bluetooth software was Widcomm, but since they have been bought out by Broadcomm, they are now only interested in supplying stuff to OEMs. Therefore it is up to the likes of Microsoft, O2 or whoever to do something about it. And I dare say they will ..... eventually :x
only microsoft
no phone companies i've ever heard of develop applications on that level of complexity
Hi guys,
Was planning to buy one of iTech's new bluetooth, red laser, virtual keyboards, I see from a review @ Dave's Ipaq
http://davesipaq.com/articles/iPAQ_Bluetooth Virtual Keyboard_iTECH_2P/1.html
that there are problems bonding to certain Ipaqs, has anyone tried to bond one to an XDA IIi? They are £120 odd, available soon from Expansys,
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=118539,
but obviously already available elsewhere.
A friend of mine did buy one but complained about fingers hurting after tapping on the projected keyboard surface. The other problem is also to find a large flat surface for the projection, specially when on the move.
We reviewed one a while back and the conclusion was it was a great gadget but impractical, a decent bluetooth keyboard would be a much more practical solution.
Problem with VKB
Hi folks!,
I have this gadget and its very cool, but until now I can`t pair VKB with my PPC (HTC Apache with Widcomm BT Stack). Simply my PPC not "see" the VKB as Bluetooth device and the I-Tech`s Tech support don`t answer my questions. Someone can help me?
Thank you in advance
I have the CL800BT from Celluon which is apparently very similar but supposedly a few more advanced options. (more key shortcuts)
Im using it with a HTC P3600i on WM6.
In general, most of these devices were released in WM2003 period and drivers are built for them.
I have had very good success pairing and using the CL800BT, but am yet to work out the mouse function.
No bull ****.
I have an MPX300 and the bluetooth voicedail work swwwweeettt!
I am almost tempted to keep the MPX300 because the BT handsfree works great and the ability to make calls by pressing a button on my BT headset and only using my voice is so wonderful.
I can leave the phone in my briefcase or in my PDASkin case and make a call by simply pressing one button on my BT headset and speaking a number or simply saying the name of one of my contacts, perfectly. Even while I drive my car.
Ha, and other people ***** about the PDA-cell phone being to big! They can't any more when the little BT headset on my ear can do everything there dumb "small" phone can do!
The maker of the bluetooth hardware driver and voice recognition software is www.voicesignal.com
If they make it for all the other phones out there, dam it, they should make it for the HTC devices too.
The only problem is they do not think there is a market for all the individual "end users" like us and I think they only deal with the OEM clients.
If we gather together and become a "high dollar" client like the OEM is, they will listen and make it. They are in their business for the money.
If we can find out their bottom line dollar amount they would need to develop a solution for the different HTC devices, and have xda-developers set up a special paypal donation account for bluetooth voice dial, and we all donate, we could do this.
I am willing to donate $200.
Because they will have to make a hardware driver for each HTC device, they may want a certain amount of money for each device. We may have to set up several donation accounts.
Hey, it is worth a shot.
Or, we could just bug the **** out of them and maybe they will start making it for our devices if they think there is a market for it.
Word of caution though, if we bug the **** out of them, they think there is a market for it, they will charge more if we go with the group donation idea.
Well, opinions please.
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VoiceSignal software for smartphones
VoiceSignal would be happy to provide its speaker independent dialing solutions to HTC (or any other smartphone manufacturer); however, even though the HTC smartphones are based on the Microsoft Windows Mobile OS, we still need to work with the manufacturer to be able to get our application to work effectively on their phone.
If you would like to see the VoiceSignal application on the HTC (or any other smartphone) please contact the the manufacturer directly.
If you wont sell your software, http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=23739&highlight=
then people will TAKE it.
We know that there is a special driver for each device needed to activate the your program when the BT device's button is pressed.
Make the driver for our devices and we wil buy it or donate money to any account you want.
I will personally donate $200.
The OEM's will not do **** and they do not listen.
I have bought a VITO Technology voice dialling solution which is advertised as working with the XDA II and a Bluetooth headset. Called VoiceDialer, it cost $15.95 and you can download a free 14 day trial from http://vitotechnology.com/en/products/voicedialer.html . It seems to work but I haven't checked it with my Bluetooth headset yet.
Please try it and let me know what you think
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I have bought a VITO Technology voice dialling solution which is advertised as working with the XDA II and a Bluetooth headset. Called VoiceDialer, it cost $15.95 and you can download a free 14 day trial from http://vitotechnology.com/en/products/voicedialer.html . It seems to work but I haven't checked it with my Bluetooth headset yet.
Please try it and let me know what you think
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This does NOT work with bluetooth headsets, see this thread from their site http://www.vitotechnology.com/en/forum/read.php?FID=3&TID=269
WARNING: operators and distributors and manufacturers want to CHEAT YOU OUT OF A2DP (stereo audio over Bluetooh)!
The worst is happening: ROM upgrades with Push Email are rolling out (not all public yet, but our sources already have them) and some of operators and distributors are not placing the A2DP (support for stereo audio over Bluetooth) in ROM upgrades with Push Email!!!
As of now we can confirm, that ROM upgrade for i-mate K-JAM with Push Email and upcoming ROM upgrades with Push Email from Orange UK - don't have support for A2DP (stereo audio over Bluetooth)!
Microsoft is offering to all hardware manufactures possibility to include native support for stereo audio over Bluetooth, but apparently the biggest buzz these days is about Microsoft's new Push Email technology, so these manufacturers (HTC?) or operators (Orange?) or distributors (i-mate?) are "forgetting" to include the A2DP in latest ROM upgrades! This is big scandal! Obviously Microsoft is not at fault because Microsoft made A2DP available as some manufacturers and operators prove: O2 Xda Atom made by Quanta, M600 and G500 made by E-TEN and German version of T-Mobile MDA Pro - have A2DP on board!
Our advice to (potential) customers is crystal clear: stop, don't buy a Windows Mobile phone!!! ... unless support for stereo audio over Bluetooth (A2DP) is already now available! In other words: don't trust in promises and in marketing pep-talk of some employees of some distributors, operators or manufacturers. Apparently for some reasons (technical problems with integration? testing not finished? quality issues?) the A2DP is not available in Push Email upgrades... and nobody knows "if" and "when" it will be available. Today it is i-mate and Orange... tomorrow it may be other operators and distributors. If they don't show respect to you, then you shouldn't buy their products. It's THAT simple!
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Looney.
There are many good reasons not to include A2DP with the AKU2 release, not least being the fact that it doesn't work very well.
To suggest that anyone should boycott OEMs who 'dare' not to release under developed solutions to an unspecting public is like suggesting we should stop buying cars that don't come with nitrous injection and wings...
A2DP will be here soon, just wait until it works properlly (AKU 2.2 as I understand it).
I saw a thread about the M10 from Garmin/Asus in the General forum, checked it out and I'll be damned if it's not a dead ringer for a slightly OC'd MSM7200 http://tinyurl.com/2astk74 and running on 6.5.3 (28xxx?). Garmin Mobile XT was killed for that sucker, and I'm loathe to use an Asus phone. I love their motherboards and they put my nVidia GPU on a PCB with a HSF and some RAM, but I'll stick with HTC devices as far as phones go. I love my real keyboard and challenge any Swype or virtual keyboard user to a battle of WPM.
Garmin Mobile XT hasn't been updated since May of 2008, so how hard do y'all think it'd be to dump that NuviFone's ROM and engineer a method of using it's updated satnav .exe? I'm 99.9% sure the map files haven't changed (running latest April '10 maps). I'm 99% certain that the TP2 can run it.
I don't have a lot of money, but I definitely wouldn't mind throwing down a bit on a bounty for this if others are interested in the same. I'm not sure how bountys work here, but I think I read somewhere that certain mods can escrow such things. This has me immensely excited; the day I figured out how to crack Garmin Mobile XT and run it on my Kaiser was the 2nd coolest eureka moment I've had with a WinMo phone, the coolest being finding this site.
I saw a thread about the M10 from Garmin/Asus in the General forum, checked it out and I'll be damned if it's not a dead ringer for a slightly OC'd MSM7200 http://tinyurl.com/2astk74 and running on 6.5.3 (28xxx?). Garmin Mobile XT was killed for that sucker, and I'm loathe to use an Asus phone. I love their motherboards and they put my nVidia GPU on a PCB with a HSF and some RAM, but I'll stick with HTC devices as far as phones go. I love my real keyboard and challenge any Swype or virtual keyboard user to a battle of WPM.
Garmin Mobile XT hasn't been updated since May of 2008, so how hard do y'all think it'd be to dump that NuviFone's ROM and engineer a method of using it's updated satnav .exe? I'm 99.9% sure the map files haven't changed (running latest April '10 maps). I'm 99% certain that the TP2 can run it. That software also runs at WVGA, so I really think this is possible.
I don't have a lot of money, but I definitely wouldn't mind throwing down a bit on a bounty for this if others are interested in the same. I'm not sure how bountys work here, but I think I read somewhere that certain mods can escrow such things. This has me immensely excited; the day I figured out how to crack Garmin Mobile XT and run it on my Kaiser was the 2nd coolest eureka moment I've had with a WinMo phone, the coolest being finding this site. Before warez flaming, one can't buy Garmin Mobile XT from Garmin in the U.S., and I bought 2 $300 dedicated Garmin boxes and both of them were stolen in separate window-smashing thefts out of my car. I don't leave my phone in the car, so Mobile XT's pretty slick in my book.
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