I know this topic has be address many many times and there are still no soluation to the problem.
So.. I want to make a poll to see how many user is experiencing this problem.
I hope to grather enough data to see if it is a hardware problem or Firmware problem so that i can address to O2 regarding this issue.
I love my PDA/phone.. but... this issuse really bugs me cos i used the phone for business and it always happens when a important call arrived... :evil:
Pls, Lets Vote with your honest answer...
Derek
No problems here....
What i've experienced is that sometimes the ringing sound is very quite even though the volume is at maximum. I make a soft reset and everything's back to normal.
NO SOUND
I have also experienced the same. I normally have to do a soft reset to fix the problem. Seems its a firmware issue to me.
One more issue is that we need to disable the power off system setting after 3minutes.
If not, a phone call will be automatically ended after 3 minutes talking.
i have also experienced this problem. i had a important caller call me twice and i didnt hear my phone ring. it was also next to me. luckily, i had my backup phone with me when he tried that line.
agreed that we shouldnt have to soft reset to get back the ring tone functionality. i personally think its a caller id version problem, but thats my opinion cause its easier to fix. i just hope it isnt a firmware problem since i wont hold my breathe on O2 releasing a rom upgrade in my phone version.
im going to try some reg tweaks to see if it will help, once my main pc is up and running (currently moving). i just dont want to go back to an older rom because of a ringing problem. but it IS a big problem for most of us.
ps. sorry about the spelling mistakes and punctuations. im on my pda at a coffee shop.
Yup I have see the no sould on outgoing, no sound on incoming, reset does the trick for me. Also feel that the sound is low in general (even if set to max)
Ha.. i call XDA today in their headoffice in Singapore. The CS guy told me.. they know this issue and say there will be a new (Rom) or patch release very soon.
After seeing the vote result. I believe that the issue is do to software, not hardware.
I have a firend that design such product. he told me that it could be that DSP script is not written well. He said, the Echo Cancelling must be overflow causing the unit to manufunction. and after reset, the overflow will be clear out, so the unit function again.
I hope O2 is really releasing a new patch to fix this issue. If not, i think i am force to go back to my Sony Ericsson P910i or one PDA and one phone option.
i'm glad that O2 recognises the problem and not passing it on to other people. thanks for the information rcbear. glad you took the extra steps get them looking this way.
i hope "soon" means in a waek or two.
same problem
My ringer always works but sometimes, at least every other day. When someone calls me i can not hear them, they can sort of hear me, but the earpiece is dead. A soft reset fix's this problem. Is my issue related to the current issue dicussed in this thread? Thanks
Jeff
I have the problem
But I get it seldom and sporadically.
pda2k (out of the box)
ROM: 1.22.00 WWE
Radio: 1.06.00
Protocol: 1337.38
ExtROM: 1.22.162 WWE
AT&T/Cingular
Re: same problem
jeffro01 said:
My ringer always works but sometimes, at least every other day. When someone calls me i can not hear them, they can sort of hear me, but the earpiece is dead. A soft reset fix's this problem. Is my issue related to the current issue dicussed in this thread? Thanks
Jeff
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Hi Jeffro01..
Welcome to the club.. :lol:
Derek
I don't seem to have the ring volume problem, but my phone will get into a state where it rings, I answer the phone, but there is no audio. In the six or so times it's happened, I haven't really determined if the caller can hear me. A reboot fixes it.
I can't pin down any one thing I do to cause it to get into this state, but it seems like a software/firmware issue.
I have this problem too.
I had to send my BT headset for repair for two weeks and noticed it did not happen during that time while it started again since I got my BT back.
When it happens (once to twice a week) I soft reset my SPVM2000 and it then is ok.
Also the BT Orange Switzerland patch makes the problem appear less often.
Phone ring problem got me twice today...
Both times, never heard three calls, but the phone still reports them as being missed.
Gotta be a solution for this or I'll be soft resetting every time I finish a call/use.
I had to send my BT headset for repair for two weeks and noticed it did not happen during that time while it started again since I got my BT back.
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If so I have 2 questions for everyone who has this issue:
1, Do you use a bluetooth headset or any other bluetooth device (gps...)?
2, What is your current bluetooth version and build?
I have Bluetooth build 3900, and I'm using 1.33.
No probleme here
not using BT or WiFi.
Where can I find my BT version?
I don't also have the 3 minutes switch off pb, the PDA function switch off after 3 minutes but the phone remains operational. I often switch the PDA off myself whilst on the phone to save on batteries.
...Hi everyone! (1st post!)...
I get the dead-speaker in calls too...
I took delivery of my first SPV M2000 a couple of weeks ago; it had a few problems, one of which was that the speaker would be dead occassionally when making or answering calls requiring a soft-reset to resolve. I initially thought this might be caused by the device not correctly recognising external hardware had become disconnected - handsfree/BT/car-cradle etc. - but it did seem to be at random.
Orange replaced the device last week; and by day 3 without using any handsfree/cradles etc. and BT and WiFi not even enabled (much less paired/connected); the dead-speaker problem reappeared.
I'm not going to bother chasing Orange about this issue on its own (this device doesn't exhibit any of the other problems I had with my first); as it seems to be a pretty common problem that's going to require a software update to fix. Needless to say when I read that HTC have written a fix I will be on Orange's back to make a fix for their ROMs public. (dreaming?).
Just FYI, both the initial device I was supplied and the replacement have the same software versions (in my sig).
Regards,
Rob.
I circumvented (temporally fixed) the ringtone problem by setting the default ringtone to "None", and also set the phone to vibrate. Then Re-enabled MS Voice Command to announce all incoming calls. The only problem is, the voice isn't loud enough in noisy places, but it does the job in the office or semi noisy environment. I guess this will have to do until a verified fix comes along our way.
Hi all,
As many of you have heard (or experienced), many Hermes units seem to exhibit less than stable behavior with the production WM5 ROM, or even some of the cool ones here.
Browsing the other forum, we are all to familiar with:
1 - Camera taking black pictures
2 - SD Card not recognized
3 - System hangs
4 - Unit gets very hot and drains battery
5 - Using the alarms is out of the question due to reliability
etc.
After two months of testing, I have two choices:
A - Go back to my Wizard 8125.
B - Move on up to WM6, and see if these issues will be resolved.
My question for those of you have taken the WM6 leap is:
"If you have experienced annoying system hangs, battery drains, and so forth, with WM5, have these issues been resolved when you upgraded to WM6?"
I want so badly to stick with the Hermes, and I'd love to learn all about the various WM6's ROMs... But not if this unit will be as unstable as before.
Any quick thoughts would be appreciated.
I'm ready to hit this forum and the wiki, and learn all there is to know about WM6... but NOT if this unit is still going act up.
I eagerly await your quick replies!
To be honest, I think WM6 is more stable overall compared to WM5 on my 8525.
I also have an 8125, and I have WM6 on that as well. The differences in functionality and the nice new interface are well worth it. The key (in my opinion) is to pick a ROM without all the extra 'garbage' added in, and be careful about the 3rd party apps you add. The core OS is very solid.
Generally speaking WM6 is faster with less hangs.
My only gripe with it is that after you have about 300 sms messages, typing gets slow .... like really delayed ... to solve this i turned the Autospeller thingy off, and it seems to be working flawlessly now!
Compatability is great, it actually just WORKS! .... *cough* most of the time *cough* ... no seriously it rarely hangs, and only the really old applications don't seem to run.
Alarms, christ don't get me started ... i personally just add a calender entry, with the alarm function turned on, it always works and reminds me 15 mins earlier than the desired time
My unit only gets hot while in my pocket a lot or while charging ... i have radio rom 1.41 and the battery life is good, but not as good, i advise 1.40 (for my device it worked best)
SD card not being recognised? never had that problem with WM6
Camera taking black pictures? ... well moving it out into the light generally helps, but out of 300 pictures so far none have been black!
i've also noticed that boot times are slightly quicker
and using IE is MUCH faster and smoother
WM6 is more visually pleasing and is smoother with less hangs. I'm using Sleuth's VARIANT of LVSW ... and its good, i'm an anti-black guy, Black just doesnt do it for me, too unreliable (IMHO!) but well done to JJ for it all, i'm not knocking him, just my personal experience
dropped calls or missed calls are a thing of the past with WM6, i suffered SO MANY during WM5 ... also the lack of OEM images is good, byebye orange customisations horay!! (backup your extended rom 1st, it might be useful later on)
i completely agree with the above statement.
WM6 is great. Haven't had any problems with it. but choose your ROM carefully. I use LVSW, and tried Black Dymond. Both were great, i personally had better luck with LVSW. Radio 1.41 seems to be working well for me, I haven't tried 1.40, so i can't speak to the battery life. make the WM6 jump. you won't be sorry.
WM6 works for me
I had some of the problems you described with WM5 that came with my JASJAM. I have since upgraded to WM6 using the Elf version of LSVW. It works very well for me so far. The only thing to watch out for is that after installing the WM6, it somehow changed the device id and my WebCamera Plus app would not activate anymore. I have to call the Ateksoft to issue me another activation code.
bchau said:
I had some of the problems you described with WM5 that came with my JASJAM. I have since upgraded to WM6 using the Elf version of LSVW. It works very well for me so far. The only thing to watch out for is that after installing the WM6, it somehow changed the device id and my WebCamera Plus app would not activate anymore. I have to call the Ateksoft to issue me another activation code.
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There's always going to be these small problems with an upgrade, but i think it's still agreed that WM5 < WM6
Hey hey!
These first five posts are VERY encouraging!
I am starting to get excited about it now...!
I'll wait to see who else can offer their opinions.
Thanks guys for the great news!
Michael_514 said:
Hey hey!
These first five posts are VERY encouraging!
I am starting to get excited about it now...!
I'll wait to see who else can offer their opinions.
Thanks guys for the great news!
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No one elses opinion matters.
My only regret with WM6 is not taking the plunge sooner. See my signature for my configuration.
I am using black dymond 3.5 for past two weeks now and so far it's just rock solid and fast. No hang ups. Quick response to buttons / commands. No drop calls. Smooth operations. Nice visual interface. No complaints what so ever.
My prior cingular rom was stable but too slow and clumsy.
Anybody who is confident in performing upgrade should do it especially as now the risk of bricking the device is very low with Hard SPL 2.10 Olipro.
My 2 cents
Michael_514 said:
Hi all,
A - Go back to my Wizard 8125.
Well, I must say that my experience has been awsome with many of the roms on my 8525 especially JJ's stuff, yes I am a devoted black follower . My experience with the wizard or 8125 was horrible, never modified it at all so i don't know how it does otherwise but I thought it was a piece of ****e.
In conclusion my advice is go wm6 and you will have a new addiction. It is faster, more memory and of course the many other perks like when you get to show your friends that your already runnin wm6 and their stuck with 5
Just follow the steps hard spl, radio then rom and you should be just fine.
I almost forgot, the only times I have experience problems/ instabilities was when I installed things to storage card rather than main memory.
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I have SoftBank X01HT... I've just upgraded my ppc to Black diamond 3.5 and it works perfect... But I still had the same problem with capturing image in the dark place and it comes up with black picture.. the flash doesn't help at all.. it seems like it's not functional... I hope someone could help me with this... Any Advice? Please feel free to tell me.. I'm waiting.. thanks in advance....
Okay, guys!
I am sold!
I will do my readings; check out the various ROMs, and away I go!
And of course, Hard SPL is a must!
And I agree with the post a few posts back... I am all for a less bloated ROM.
I use my PPC for very specific tasks (Adobe Reader, Outlook, GPS, phone,voice command)... and the less junk/crap/freeware/shareware/malware/utils/bloatware/games I have installed, the better.
I will do some investigating, and I shall take the plunge!!!
Thanks!!!
Michael_514 said:
Hi all,
As many of you have heard (or experienced), many Hermes units seem to exhibit less than stable behavior with the production WM5 ROM, or even some of the cool ones here.
Browsing the other forum, we are all to familiar with:
1 - Camera taking black pictures
2 - SD Card not recognized
3 - System hangs
4 - Unit gets very hot and drains battery
5 - Using the alarms is out of the question due to reliability
etc.
After two months of testing, I have two choices:
A - Go back to my Wizard 8125.
B - Move on up to WM6, and see if these issues will be resolved.
My question for those of you have taken the WM6 leap is:
"If you have experienced annoying system hangs, battery drains, and so forth, with WM5, have these issues been resolved when you upgraded to WM6?"
I want so badly to stick with the Hermes, and I'd love to learn all about the various WM6's ROMs... But not if this unit will be as unstable as before.
Any quick thoughts would be appreciated.
I'm ready to hit this forum and the wiki, and learn all there is to know about WM6... but NOT if this unit is still going act up.
I eagerly await your quick replies!
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Hi, I have similar problems. I am trying to find out what's going on and the symptoms are like you say: battery drains too fast. Let's say it the battery gets hot, there's something wrong. If you measure the current usage with ACBPowerMeter you will see a high load, like 300-400ma, even with all stuff off, radio off, wifi off, incoming beams off, bt off etc, nada. Now, if you pull out the battery, leave the device the some hours, then start again, power it up, activate GSM and everything, you should be luck and see a current of maybe as low as 30-60ma, even with full brightness on the display. And one time it was okay the whole day, but then all of a sudden, maybe after I hooked up with Activesync or got an SMS, it's gone bananas again.. sigh.. There's gotta be something strange that's completely wrong. I've tried many radios no difference, I've tried bandswitch to limit to GSM only as I live in a area with maybe not super quality 3G signal, did not sort out the problem yet. I had WM6 from LVSW 19-05-2007 with all kinds of radios, then moved on to Pro Black, same problem, but will no try black dymond as someone else mentioned problem was gone with that ROM.
Please all, anyone else with these problems? Any good ideas what this can be? If the device is off for a long time, and I mean off as in battery pulld out, what difference does that make to having the battery off a short while, let's say some minutes? Is there some memory-stuff here? My device is just a week old, never wanted to use a native language WM5 that was in it, hoping this problem will be fixed..
thanks
Update:
I happened to purchase a faulty device!!! There was indeed a HW error on my brand new device so I got it swapped with another one that works. Not all problems are SW-bugs..
I use WM6 on both my 8525's without significant probs; battery drain seems less with radio v.1.38 than 1.40 or greater although use Band Switch to keep phone on GSM when not cruising the net; initial boot up is faster; I've not had overheating probs, no micro SD card issues . Wish I'd gone to WM6 much sooner, but I think having the Cingular 8525 makes a big difference as well.
My battery gets hot and discharges too quick even with radio off. I've tried all radios, am at 1.34 now, will try the 1.43 later tonight if I am able to fully charge battery quick enough... The thing is, if I remove battery for some hours and start over, it's okay, 40ma, radio on etc. Then, at some random point in time, the phone can just lay on the table untouched, it starts consuming battery as crazy, 300-400ma, measured by ACB Power Meter. It's dricing me nuts... I've tried to kill processes, to watch what's going on... I don't have a clue yet, except from there's something "running wild"..
Update:
I happened to purchase a faulty device!!! There was indeed a HW error on my brand new device so I got it swapped with another one that works. Not all problems are SW-bugs..
Hi all!
Okay, I am taking the plunge!
I think I'll stick with Radio 1.40, which I have instealled. Hard SPL is also installed...
...so, the only decision is to figure out which ROM!
I have rounded the choice down to two, based on what I've read.
I'm either gonna go with LSVW or Elf's version of LSVW.
Both are downloaded and sitting on my hard drive, ready to roll.
I just hope I can still use PocketMirror; iGuidance; and spb Pocket Plus.
We shall see!!!!
Any final suggestions are welcome!!!
Thanks!
What have you got to lose?
Just follow MrVanx's guide and enjoy it.
Unwired,
You actually bring up an EXCELLENT question!
"What have I got to lose?"
The simple answer: Time!
As much as I enjoy my hobby that involves tweaking PC's, PocketPCs, laptops, gadgets, and so forth...
...I am an attorney and I do run a business.
This means my time is very important and quite valuable to me.
For every hour I spend tweaking; resintalling apps; customizing e-mail settings; testing the phone; resyncing my business contacts with PocketMirror; researching the proper registry hacks....
...that is an hour I lose making MONEY!
So... As much as I would lllllllove to play with and test single new ROM and its variant, and as much I enjoy spending my day enjoying playing with the latest and greatest operating systems...
It kills me when I can't service clients, and when I can't run my business, because I am busy YET AGAIN(!) resintalling my PocketPC.
That's why I love getting opinions before I move ahead...!
So there ya go... I have no time to lose!
GilesTheAlmighty said:
Generally speaking WM6 is faster with less hangs.
My only gripe with it is that after you have about 300 sms messages, typing gets slow .... like really delayed ... to solve this i turned the Autospeller thingy off, and it seems to be working flawlessly now!
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Now i have arround 700 sms in the Inbox and about 500 in sent items, and typing works good for me, with autospell on... i keep copy of all SMS i send/receive since i get my first pda, my loved Wizard...
GilesTheAlmighty said:
Alarms, christ don't get me started ... i personally just add a calender entry, with the alarm function turned on, it always works and reminds me 15 mins earlier than the desired time
SD card not being recognised? never had that problem with WM6
Camera taking black pictures? ... well moving it out into the light generally helps, but out of 300 pictures so far none have been black!
i've also noticed that boot times are slightly quicker
and using IE is MUCH faster and smoother
WM6 is more visually pleasing and is smoother with less hangs. I'm using Sleuth's VARIANT of LVSW ... and its good, i'm an anti-black guy, Black just doesnt do it for me, too unreliable (IMHO!) but well done to JJ for it all, i'm not knocking him, just my personal experience
dropped calls or missed calls are a thing of the past with WM6, i suffered SO MANY during WM5 ... also the lack of OEM images is good, byebye orange customisations horay!! (backup your extended rom 1st, it might be useful later on)
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Really the difference is not only the ROM you use, but what you do with the ROM...this causes ppl talking about one ROM so quick and other ROM so slow, if you take a search, someone (don't remember) make a speed test after HR every ROM, and the results shows the ROMs aren't so different.
Of course if you havn't time for this, this isn't your forum
Regards.
im sorry Admins if wasn't supposed to create a new thread for this subject, but its ma first thread.
Everytime you do a soft reset after loading a few applications on, e.g. real player, pim back up, tomtom, tcpmp, etc, the device does not load up. you have to do a hard reset, no mata how long you leave it. This is not just apparent on my device but a couple of others i have tested with. Couple of times when you soft reset, you may get away wid it, but eventually it will crash.
It worked fine when i first installed it and didnt have the need to soft reset it in the first few days, but eventually when i did, thats when i had the trouble. Since then i must have done 10 hard resets, reloaded the ROM on again still the same. like i said not just this device, but a ma brothers and ma frends device.
Ive had to revert back to the o2 ROM, because the last thing i want whilst im out and about, is to have to do a soft reset and it does not load and then have to end up doing hard reset. Not Ideal.
Hope Tom Can fix this issue for the next release.
if anyone else having same issue and has fixed it, let us know.
cheers
I had this problem 3 times, this time i removed everything in traylaunch (and removed the check to enable traylaunch) and it seems to have stopped it - over 9 days since now.
Also, haven't got batterystatus to overclock after reboot, just in case.
i have tried it without tray launch and the problem was still evident.. in anycase, i like the tray launch feature, so it wud be good to keep that there. with the 3 devices i tested it on, it semms to happen after installing a couple of applications. i realy like the features of the ROM, its just a shame it gets stuck after a soft reset.
TOM if ur out there, the n please respond with any advice, or whether ur gna have a fix
after reading feedback from other users, it does seem as the problem is with quite a few ppl, if not everyone. it seems to be the fact that this ROM does not like other applications being installed. without any applications it works fine, but as soon as you install something it goes dead.
i have no reverted back to o2 ROM. which is working great, but is just boring... lol
i must apologise 'Furbious' as you were right. it was tray launcher causing the problem... i have since re-installed b&b 4.0 took tick out of tray launcher and it works a treat...
just waiting for 4.1