I found that the serial port (and therefore the pinout of the connector) on Blue Angel is not compatible with earlier HTC devices (especially the handshake lines). Did anyone encounter problems with connector compatibility too?
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I found that the serial port (and therefore the pinout of the connector) is not compatible with earlier HTC devices (especially the handshake lines). Did anyone encounter problems with connector compatibility too?
I would like to connect my Universal to a flight instrument that supplies serial output (glider vario with GPS, altitude e.t.c. information).
I have seen RS232 cabels with converter to USB, but my question is - will this work or do I need a driver for my Universal?
Has anyeone tried this with succes, and if so, what was the solution.
Best regards
Steen
I forgot to add, that I would prefere a solution where the converter is not build into a RS232 plug, as the serial input would com from a Hirose p/n HR10A-7P-6P plug. Therefor I wil have to make my own cable - at least on the serial input side.
Serial connection from Universal
I don't think you can use the USB connector output and convert it to a serial formal as the equipment needs the ability to behave as a server for the serial connection, whereas it is only configured to act as a host (i.e when connected to a PC). (terminology may be incorrect ...!)
What you could obtain is a Bluetooth Serial port .. i know you didn't want the 9 pin plug, but you could easily make yourself a connector -and it would work wireless.
Charlie Grillo
Hi,
need to know what type of mini USB is on the circuit ? how many pins?
thanks
All mini USB connectors should be created equal, usb (including usb mini) its what is called an idustry standard, thay have 5 pins total, same shape and size always, I wouldn't even suspect that some connector maker could took off any of the pins out, what surely should be, is that the connector must be a PCB mounting type, it would be a better idea to open the PDA, take off the connector and bring it with you when you buy the new one.
One easy solution -that I think someone in the forum has already mentioned- would be to use another device's mini usb conector (such as a broken bluetooth headset or a memory multicard reader).
hopefully tommorow i'll be able 2 post photo
Does this exist? I'm about to purchase an HTC P3300 and I would like to use a car diagnostic software call "VagCheck". To use it, you need a cable to connect from the the PPC to the cars OBDII port. These cables only come for iPaq ppc connectors to OBDII, serial to OBDII, and USB to OBDII. These cables are expensive and I already have a serial to OBDII cable. So I'm looking for some kind of way to connect the cable to the P3300 via the mini USB connector but I know there will need to be some drivers involved.
Does anyone know if there's an adapter from mini USB to regular USB or Serial for PPC's with drivers?
BTW, there is a more expensive alternative. There's a bluetooth connector for the car that plugs into the OBDII and you can just connect via BT. But that is the most expensive set-up.
USB to serial
I guess you can use USB to serial converter, which is inexpensive.
Thread moved.
AFAIK the P3300 is USB client only, which means it can only be used as a client device to a PC. USB host capability is required to work with USB peripherals such as a USB to serial adapter.
So basically what you are trying to do won't work with the P3300 unfortunately.
The only way around this problem would be to get a bluetooth-serial module which would connect to the serial - OBDII unit and allow the P3300 to connect to it via bluetooth.
A bit silly I know, this is the result of most PDA manufacturers choosing not to equip their devices with USB host capability.
Antzzz et al,
You're right.. The current HTC range are all only USB Client.. So you can't connect an HID device, serial adaptor etc.. There IS rumoured to be a set of serial pins on the non-standard Mini-USB style connector on the D810 device range - however, we've never seen a cable that breaks out (or explains the RS232 pins)..
Does anyone have a full pinout of the extended connector??? This might be a project for further investigation.... ?
There are a few industrial RS232 to Bluetooth adaptors, such as :
http://store.pressdigital.com.au/industrial-bluetooth-serial-adaptor-rs232-p-5092.html
But they're expensive as a rule.. You may want to grab a Bluetooth OBDII interface.. (or another cheap PDA with RS232 like a cheap low-end iPAQ hx2490).
Let us know if you stumble across the RS232 pinout on the extended D810 connector.
Cheers
Andy
www.pressdigital.com.au
Support Team
i am having the same problem. i have a xda orbit with some software on it to adjust my air suspension on my car. i have tried connecting the cable supplied with it to a serial lead and then the obd11 lead but i could not get it to work. just found a Original O2 XDA Serial Sync Cable . ordered today from
http://l8shop.net/products/Original-O2-XDA-Serial-Sync-Cable-3280.asp
if you have any success in getting yours to work i would appreciate any help.
I found special solutions - possibility to use COM ports on most of HTC devices
You have to use spcial Nokia's cabel DCU-5 and 11pin miniUSB HTC plug .
After cutting it close to Nokias plug you can find four wire.
Please chceck voltage on connected to PC USB .
White ( earth)
Red 0,15V
Blue 2,34V
Green 0,49 V
If you have the same voltage it's mean
Blue is TX
Green is RX
So you can find in HTC miniUSB possiblity to finnd Tx and RX as on drawing .
To connect with PC you need to use Nokia's driver for virtual port .
Maybe better solution will be use of max3232 circut .
Very good!
do you know the corresponding colours in htc's extusb headset cable? i mean what to connect the dku-5 wires to in the extusb cable, because i don't have breakout board.
According to drawing http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/media/EMU_pin_config.png
I founnd colours only for audio pins in ExtUSB :
Data pins has to be standard colour code , I think .
So please chceck
A = GND colour Black
B = NC
C = +DATA colour White
D = -DATA colour Green
E = +5v Colour Red
Audio pins
1 = +Mic colour White
2 = +Right colour Red
3 = Switch colour Blue
4 = Gnd Colour Red-Yellow
5 = Mic Gnd/Antenna Colour Yellow
6 = +Left Colour Green
What about charging?
Hm, so this means that if we use this scheme to connect a serialport to the miniUSB-connector we cannot charge the PDA at the same time unless we put separate charging-wires on the +5V and GND...
I have been in contact with HTC about this because we are desperately looking for a solution for a problem we have. We use HTC Advantage 7500/7510 who have a USB-host built-in and using the VGA-out-multi-cable that comes with the 7510 we can get a serialport using a usb-to-serial-connector, but the one that HTC makes is a bit too big and we want to build the connector in to the vehicle cradle.
Your solution might actually work, we need to test this. Huge thanks for the info!!!
Couple of notes...
Instead of hunting for voltages on the various wires which may or may not be color coded the same way, it might be easier to look at the following page:
http://jethomson.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/ca-42_dku-5_pinout.jpg
And then (if you've got a continuity mode on your meter), just strip the end of the garbage half (dku-5 connector) of the cable you just cut and tone out the pins to figure out which color means what. It certainly made it tons easier for me. In my case the RS232 RX, TX, and GND were White, Green, and Red respectively.
Also, the drivers listed above may or may not work for you, depending on who made the cable you bought. I purchased mine on eBay for $4 US. The following table shows a list of various DKU-5 cables and their related linux driver (which may help you discern the manufacturer):
http://wiki.gnokii.org/index.php/Cables#DKU-5_and_CA-42
I attached my cable to a linux computer and ran "lsusb" from a terminal. This told me that my particular device was an ArkMicro Technologies 3116... Once I found drivers for that device for Windows XP, I was fine. I'm not sure how you'll figure out the device manufacturer from Windows, but someone here will figure it out
So if i modify the Nokia Cable, i can use it as serial wire to debrick the HTC G1/G2 ?