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My Trinity has decided it's had enough of working and is doing some crazy stuff. Firstly if you have the phone in Automatic registration it never gets signal but will say G or 3G etc. At this point I cannot make or receive calls or texts. The only way I have managed to get it to work is by turning Auto to Manual and selecting the network..yet sometimes this doesnt work, it will show reception but calls and texts still dont work, Data works tho!!
The only way I can get a working phone is selecting GSM from the network type instead of Auto. Obviously it sounds like a 3G/UMTS problem with the phone, Sim works fine in other phones. Have tried reflashing ROM and Radio.
ANy Ideas
are you sure you have good 3G coverage in your area?
I would phone your operator.
I had a similar problem on Vodafone only when set to auto. The phone tries to pick up the 3G weak signal and so it's always droppin off and on.
The guy at Voda suggested that my phone was paired to a 3G base station several KM away, when it could have used the GSM station a few 100 metres away.
A plus of using GSM is battery life lasts much longer!
Of course there could be a hardware fault which would be unfortunate.
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sickboy555 said:
are you sure you have good 3G coverage in your area?
I would phone your operator.
I had a similar problem on Vodafone only when set to auto. The phone tries to pick up the 3G weak signal and so it's always droppin off and on.
The guy at Voda suggested that my phone was paired to a 3G base station several KM away, when it could have used the GSM station a few 100 metres away.
A plus of using GSM is battery life lasts much longer!
Of course there could be a hardware fault which would be unfortunate.
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I assume that you've configured your phone to your operator and that you've tried different radio ROMS to ensure optimal "fit" between your specific PDA and network operator. If you haven't and none of sickboy555's suggestions work, maybe you should check these two alternatives out as well?
Cheers!
hoja67
Well the problem initially started at random, did actually do anything, also I have tried about 4 different ROMS now and all have the same problem. I'm on
In terms of reception I have full 3G signal (4 bars according to the screen) as I am just outside the centre of the city yet nothing comes through but data. tis V strange. I may retry 3G when I'm somewhere else just in case its down to the local Cell.
I've decided to bite the bullet and just disabled 3G most of the time, if I need faster data I'll turn it on for that until I can upgrade to the TyTN 2. mmmmmm
Does anyone know why the signal is SOOOOOOO weak on the rhodium ? =|
Yuuvi said:
Does anyone know why the signal is SOOOOOOO weak on the rhodium ? =|
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I have no problems whatsoever with reception... almost always full signal
I've very low signal at most times, but it is not affect to quality of calling.
Quallity of call? I just lost my entire signal lol.. cant call whatsoever.
Yuuvi said:
Quallity of call? I just lost my entire signal lol.. cant call whatsoever.
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As to signal strength, I do not experience any significant difference compared to my TYTN2. And my provider has some weak spots in the surrounding of where I live, so I have been able to test the signal strength under various conditions. Where it comes to quality, the TP2/Rhodium is significantly better (at least on my side of the call).
Cheers, Dela
I definitely find the signal much weaker on my TP2 than I did with my tytnII.
Also lots of (related, I guess) problems with it switching between 3g/H and G - get the "cannot connect" message too much.
Never having done much ROM stuff, will this be bettered with the new ROMs that will come after Hard SPL?
cielorosso said:
I have no problems whatsoever with reception... almost always full signal
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same here. Actually seems better than the HD for me
Actually I have batt problems with a specific operator. The batt wont last even a full day with Vivo. Buit with other operators, a day and a half easy.
I think it is signal related.
my signal is very weak as well. i have compared my new TP2 to my old S710. I get 3 bars on my old one as opposed to 1 bar on my new high dollar phone.
What can I do to make my signal stronger in my TP2? I have called Tmobile. They have troubleshot with me, checked the tower, etc. I truly think it is phone related. HELP!!
I am tired of dropped calls.
I find the signal on mine slightly better than my TyTN II or at worst at Par with the TyTN II. Does anyone ever get that chequerd 'H'? what does it mean? I am guessing it means a week HSDPA signal since I only get it when there are no signal bars.
My signal isn't as good as before (Tytn II on t-mobile)...
I'm still on t-mob but HSDPA connections and general reception indoors isn't as good as it was...
Love love love my Desire. Few little problems here and there (Music Genre, Battery life etc) but the one main thing that is really bugging me is, that if I lose reception (I live in a area with lots of valleys), it will never regain reception even if I enter a town centre or City. I always have to either switch Airplane mode on then off. Or more often than not, turn the phone off completely and switch it back on, where it then finds reception straight away.
Anyone else getting this?
I'm on Vodafone and using the latest Generic Rom
I'm not sure if this is the same problem, sometimes i
have no data connection (i guess 3x since i have the phone).
I see some bars but no Edge or H (3g) sign and obviously i have not data connection ... dunno if the phone part work, will try next time.
anyway, i could get the data connection back by switching from 3g to GPRS mode and later back. You can see in the bar that for a very short time all GSM connection is gone ... i guess it's similar to switching to airplane mode ...
Maybe it's worth a try for you, maybe it's totally useless
btw: i'm living in a city, the nearest celltower is just a few meters away.
I have similar issues but I had the same issues with my ADP, not just the Desire.
Inside my University buildings I lose reception very often and the GSM connection always reestablishes itself but not the Data connection. When I reboot my phone the same thing happens. There is a good chance that the Data connection wont initialize and I have to switch to Airplane mode and back to get the Data connection. Really frustrating sometimes :/
Another very, very annoying problem I have is that sometimes it shows a data connection but it can't be used. It shows E/3G/H but whenever I start an app which uses data, it always times out.
Another problem, which is probably not fixable, is that my Phone likes to jump between E/3G/H quite a lot and every time it does do so, it seems like the app using the data connection has to reestablish the connection. This led to quite some timeouts when it was constantly jumping around.
I get poor 3G reception on my desire ( orange UK ) , have to go outside in the rain to get a better reception
CharlieCharlie24 said:
Love love love my Desire. Few little problems here and there (Music Genre, Battery life etc) but the one main thing that is really bugging me is, that if I lose reception (I live in a area with lots of valleys), it will never regain reception even if I enter a town centre or City. I always have to either switch Airplane mode on then off. Or more often than not, turn the phone off completely and switch it back on, where it then finds reception straight away.
Anyone else getting this?
I'm on Vodafone and using the latest Generic Rom
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vodafone have been getting worse and worse of late, I travel from surrey to london (central) every morning and was getting the same thing. I was even getting this all the time with a blackberry 9700, It is not the phone as I tried tmobile sim card in the same areas and didn't have the problem. Only 8 months to go of my contract which I will not be renewing.
I have an issue where if I use wifI at home for an evening, when I switch wifi off, the 3g data connection does not re connect. If I re boot, it connects immediately.
Sent from my HTC Desire
xxnoelziexx said:
vodafone have been getting worse and worse of late, I travel from surrey to london (central) every morning and was getting the same thing. I was even getting this all the time with a blackberry 9700, It is not the phone as I tried tmobile sim card in the same areas and didn't have the problem. Only 8 months to go of my contract which I will not be renewing.
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the sites around the areas might actually be down try calling and checking that out
CharlieCharlie24 said:
... if I lose reception (I live in a area with lots of valleys), it will never regain reception ... I'm on Vodafone and using the latest Generic Rom
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Assuming Vodafone uses Sim cards. I just had the same issue, here in the states with AT&T. I thought my Tilt was at fault so I borrowed a little Samsung flip phone and put my Sim in it but it did the same thing.
I had AT&T replace my Sim card and so far, 48+ hours, it hasn't happened again on my Tilt.
Might be worth a try.
holmanm said:
Assuming Vodafone uses Sim cards. I just had the same issue, here in the states with AT&T. I thought my Tilt was at fault so I borrowed a little Samsung flip phone and put my Sim in it but it did the same thing.
I had AT&T replace my Sim card and so far, 48+ hours, it hasn't happened again on my Tilt.
Might be worth a try.
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Thanks, might try changing the Radio version and see if that helps first, if not will give Vodafone a call.
traspler said:
I have similar issues but I had the same issues with my ADP, not just the Desire.
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Another very, very annoying problem I have is that sometimes it shows a data connection but it can't be used. It shows E/3G/H but whenever I start an app which uses data, it always times out.
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I have this same problem at home (in South London) with my desire and had it with my G1 too (both on T-Mobile). I'm pretty sure it's a network issue rather than android or the phone. I constantly have 3 bars of H signal and during the daytime it's blazing fast but after around 5pm and all day at the weekends it becomes basically unusable with network timeouts more often than usable connections. I work 40 miles away down south and I get a consistently fast data connection down there with none of the time out problems.
I also tried using a t-mobile sim in a 3g dongle and had the same issues, it was great during the day and incredibly slow with loads of timeouts in the eve. It reminds me of when unmetered ISPs first came out and couldn't cope with the amount of bandwidth being used, I'm pretty sure this is a similar capacity problem in some areas.
I've been in touch with t-mobile and they are escalating it to 3rd line support so will wait and see what happens. As it's at home I can use wifi and it's not the end of the world but it some respects I wish I hadn't upgraded and switched networks instead, my gf's on O2 with the phone that is not to be named and doesn't have this problem at all.
In response to your most recent query on a different thread you had posted (now closed):
Will changing the radio help me?
Currently got this issue happening daily
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=676866
If I lose reception at any point, I have to either turn Airplane Mode on and off or restart the phone to get ANY sort of reception.
Currently on 1.15.405.4 Generic Rom with Baseband version 32.30.00.28U_4.05.00.11
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Yes, by updating the Radio version this can improve things like battery life, network reception, Wi-Fi, and GPS signal strength, but this also depends on your region - it will either work better for you or could be worse. It may be worthwhile changing to Radio 4.06.00.02 for a few days and try to establish whether or not it improves your situation. If it doesn't, then just revert back to the stock Radio version.
I had a very similar problem on my Touch Diamond 2. It turned out to be a faulty aerial and had to go back to HTC for repair. Worked ok for a while after that, then it started again. An update to their latest ROM then solved it. So a hardware issue and a seperate software issue both produced the same fault for me.
Hi everyone,
My g7 is having problem with wifi (and bluetooth, but I mostly use wifi). The issue is the wifi signal strength is extremely low. Only when I put the phone just next to the wifi AP, it will get a strength of 3-4 (not full) slots. In most cases if you walk away from the AP for about 5 meters, the strength will go down to almost nothing and becomes very unstable.
bluetooth? even in discoverable mode, it is not discoverable.
I think it might be a problem of some kind of antenna inside it. how could I check? i have disassembled it.
I noticed when I remove the chin of it, the phone signal will go to zero (the GSM signal) and I know there is an antenna in it. Isn't the wifi sharing antenna with the mobile network?
My radio is latest according to the forum. Trying cm7.0.3 and oxygen 2.2.1, both same issues.
hardware defect
working fine for me on both and no bug have been reported on both roms.
must be your hardware defect, sorry. still in warranty ?
I've had my HOX now for just over a month and i'm loving it. One thing that is slightly bugging me is that occasionally the phone signal will completely cut out giving me an 'x' where the signal strength normally is and telling me that I can only make emergency calls only.
This will correct itself within 30 seconds or so and go back to giving me a signal. This doesnt happen all the time which has made it harder for me to diagnose. Do you think it is a problem with the sim card (Orange UK network) or is it likey to be an issue with the radio software?
I never had an issue with Orange on my Desire although this is a different SIM card.
Any help or advice would be appreciated.
Thanks
I think this is a common problem I'm on Vodafone and this happens to me. I applied a fix when installing insertcoin Rom a while back and it doesn't do it as often now.
I'm glad this has been mentioned now because my One X (On Vodafone) drops connection all the time. The amount of times that I have been somewhere and needed to transfer money through the Natwest App and haven't been able to is getting annoying now. As I am not rooted I can't try any fixes but I have found by using GSM only around where I live, it won't drop signal half as much or often. I don't have a 3G mast near me so its always dropping connection switching between the two as opposed to a smooth transition.
Hi,
You are not alone. I'm on Orange UK and have seen this problem on quite a few occasions. Unfortunately, as yet I can't see any pattern to understand when it happens or what causes it.
Tim
Happens to me on 3. Sometimes I have to hard reset to get it back.
Glad that its not just me. At least I can rule out an issue with the sim.
As it seems to cover more than 1 network, could it be a radio issue that is addressed in a future firmware upgrade?
It is definitely not just you. I'm in Malaysia on the Maxis network and have this problem as well. It happens randomly - at the most it happens twice in a day.
Do you also sometimes get the message 'Preparing SIM card...' at the bottom of the screen?
I brought my phone to the HTC service centre and they offered to take it in to test the radio. I will do this when I get back from my holiday and keep you guys posted!
Mirlina said:
It is definitely not just you. I have this problem as well and it happens randomly - at the most it happens twice in a day. Do you all also get the message 'Preparing SIM card...' at the bottom of the screen?
I brought my phone to the HTC service centre and they offered to take it in to test the radio. I will do this when I get back from my holiday and keep you guys posted!
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I do get that message at the bottom of the screen. I'd be interested to hear what the outcome is once you've had your radio tested.
Yep, it's the [email protected] radio firmware HTC has provided us with. Radio 2.05 is much better. HTC are useless with updates. I've had problems with my network connection for 2 months!
an.d.d said:
Yep, it's the [email protected] radio firmware HTC has provided us with. Radio 2.05 is much better. HTC are useless with updates. I've had problems with my network connection for 2 months!
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Only slightly IMO not sorted properly. (t-mobile uk)
XsCode said:
Happens to me on 3. Sometimes I have to hard reset to get it back.
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Me too.
Except I am on Tim @ Brasil.
This is nearly always down to signal.
If you're in an area that has decent 2G signal but fluctuating/low 3G signal then the phone will keep trying to connect to the 3G signal. Sometimes it'll be too weak and not be ableto connect and will stick with the 2G signal. If the 3G signal is only just strong enough to connect the phone will switch to 3G mode (dropping the 2G signal). Then it'll realise that the 3G signal is too weak to do anything with (showing an 'X' in the signal area) and drop back to your full 2G signal.
3G signal is breathable which means that if lots of people are connected to the 3G mast then it's signal area (i.e. distance from mast) is reduced. If no-one is using the 3G mast then it's area is bigger.
Perhaps your signal is breathing in and out of use where you are.
Obviously the radio can have an affect too, but with so many people using the same radio software there are going to be some it works well for and others it doesn't.
Personally, I keep my phone on 2G/GSM Only for most of the time and then switch to 3G when I want to use data. I hardly ever get problems with signal, and if I do I shrug and put it down to the coverage in the area I'm in.
P.S. Saying this, my 2G signal seems to drop in and out when I have WiFi turned on. Usually when I'm using wifi I'm not making calls anyway so it doesn't bother me...
Thanks for this useful info. How do I set my phone to 2g only so I can test this theory out ?
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Only slightly IMO not sorted properly. (t-mobile uk)
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It seemed 'good enough' to me, but I only had 2 days with my phone on 2.05 and then my camera wouldn't work at all. So I sent the phone back for a replacement. Crazy it's still not fixed!
I've had 5 faulty phones now.
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r2b2 said:
This is nearly always down to signal.
If you're in an area that has decent 2G signal but fluctuating/low 3G signal then the phone will keep trying to connect to the 3G signal. Sometimes it'll be too weak and not be ableto connect and will stick with the 2G signal. If the 3G signal is only just strong enough to connect the phone will switch to 3G mode (dropping the 2G signal). Then it'll realise that the 3G signal is too weak to do anything with (showing an 'X' in the signal area) and drop back to your full 2G signal.
3G signal is breathable which means that if lots of people are connected to the 3G mast then it's signal area (i.e. distance from mast) is reduced. If no-one is using the 3G mast then it's area is bigger.
Perhaps your signal is breathing in and out of use where you are.
Obviously the radio can have an affect too, but with so many people using the same radio software there are going to be some it works well for and others it doesn't.
Personally, I keep my phone on 2G/GSM Only for most of the time and then switch to 3G when I want to use data. I hardly ever get problems with signal, and if I do I shrug and put it down to the coverage in the area I'm in.
P.S. Saying this, my 2G signal seems to drop in and out when I have WiFi turned on. Usually when I'm using wifi I'm not making calls anyway so it doesn't bother me...
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Which is correct, however any phone working correctly should manage to switch between 2G/3G without problems, i.e. you should not find the phone without a signal at all provided there is 2G coverage, which seems to be the case being reported here. My previous phones with 3G/2G never had a problem, and the HTC One X has been no different for me, it hasn't dropped it's signal, I'm on Vodafone in UK.
Regards
Phil
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craggybuk said:
Thanks for this useful info. How do I set my phone to 2g only so I can test this theory out ?
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Settings -> Mobile Network -> Network mode then set to GSM only.
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Phil
This is happening fairly regularly for me on UK T-Mobile. Seems to happen when switching between Orange and T-Mobile or T-Mobile and 3G T-Mobile. I've got a ROM that distinguishes between a 2G and 3G connection in the carrier name area.
bailie1912 said:
I think this is a common problem I'm on Vodafone and this happens to me. I applied a fix when installing insertcoin Rom a while back and it doesn't do it as often now.
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What fix was that?
OliverHaslam said:
What fix was that?
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Installing a Custom ROM
nickhuk said:
Installing a Custom ROM
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Which, and what about it was supposed to be a fix? I'm using MaXimus 2.1.
It happens to me also. I'm on 3 in Denmark. They providing only 3G coverage in area. So far, I figured out that it's happening when I'm loosing signal completly (i.e. when I go down in concrete basement), and when I'm within coverage again, phone is unable to register on any network at all. Sometimes can help turn airplane mode on and off, or sometimes I have to turn phone off and on again.
ROM : 1.29.401.11
Radio: 1.1204.105.14