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16-in-1 Super Sim. Does it work?

Does anyone have any experience with these "multiple lines on 1 sim" gadgets?
I quite fancy having my work Voda number and my personal T-Mobile number all on the SIM in my MDA III.
Anyone tried it?
Q.

hace you got a link?
i have just bought a 2 in 1 sim. but it means cutting some of the sim cards, so im not sure if im going to do it.
unless your item is different you can only access on sim card at a time

Details are here:
http://www.nowgsm.com/supersim.htm
They crop up on Ebay fairly regularly for around £20 - £30 plus shipping usually from HK or Malaysia.
I might just go ahead and order one anyway.
Q.

i got one and tried it and didn't work (20 US$)....... whenever i try to extract the information on my orginal SIM card it takes hours and hours but doesn't extract anything........
i did some readings around the net and found out that it depends on the orginal sim card you have.. if you have a newer sim it won't work... but if you have an older sim (don't really remember the date) it should extract fine and be copied........
note if you try to extract an orginal sim card many times you will screw the orginal and will stop from working and need a new sim.......
hope that helps

Yes it works!
I have 8 sim's details on it. And I use it day and day. You can switch between the sim's without turning off the pda.

good. but is it possible to have 2 simultaneous lines ON?

muppet said:
good. but is it possible to have 2 simultaneous lines ON?
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nope one at a time but fast switching between them

@freelovsky:
As this interests me, too:
- How do you switch between the lines?
- Where did you get your Multi-Sim?
Greetings,
BGK

I have a 16 in 1 sim, I have managed to destroy 3 sim cards while trying to crack the ki number, it will not work with any current sim card in UK, the software doesnt have the capability of breaking the latest encryption that is used.

how do you switch w/o turning the PDA2K off? (or turning flight mode on/off) ????

Thanks for the info guys. As my SIM is of the high capacity newer type, I guess I'm out of luck. Thats 20 quid saved
Q.

Using MDA 111 without a sim card

Could someone tell me if this is possible ,
My friend has recently acquired this phone and has found that he would
prefer to keep his smaller original mobile phone for calls and to use his MDA111 for internet/gprs access etc and as an organiser.
I did a search and found a thread which said you could do this with the XDA11,but don't know if it applies to the MDA111.
Thanks.

You can use the MDAIII for internet using wi-fi without a SIM card, but you MUST have a SIM card to use GPRS
Personally I chose the XDA2s specifically because it had ALL thing in one device. That way I don't need to carry two or more pieces of equipment with me; its all in the one bit of kit

Many thanks for the reply,
Unfortunately it's the gprs that he needs,
The only other thing would be to have two sims the same(multiple sims)
but according to the girl I was speaking to she said t-mobile don't do them
But the same girl also told me that the mda 111 wouldn't even start up without a sim in it. :roll:
Any ideas about which companies let you use multiple sims.
Many thanks.

Check out this guy on ebay for device that allows you to use 2 SIMs on your XDA2s
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=43805&item=6395920753&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
As per phone not starting without a SIM card, that is incorrect, when you start-up, it defaults to the phonepad, all you have to do is to click cancel and it gives you access to the PDA part of the device.
Goodluck!

oab said:
Check out this guy on ebay for device that allows you to use 2 SIMs on your XDA2s
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=43805&item=6395920753&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
As per phone not starting without a SIM card, that is incorrect, when you start-up, it defaults to the phonepad, all you have to do is to click cancel and it gives you access to the PDA part of the device.
Goodluck!
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T-Mobile do offer 2 SIMs with the same number (one for MDAIII, one for small phone) They can both receive incoming calls and only one at a time can call out. One of the SIMs has limited functionality. The service is called MultiSIM and you can actually more than 2 devices with the same number. I was quoted £30 set-up charge and £12.50/month for the second SIM on the same phone number.
http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/Dispatcher?menuid=business_bs_cm_ms

As a variation I have an XDA IIs and I only take it out of the house when I'm on trips and want all its pda and other options. The rest of the time it's just used around the house and it bumps calls on to my old phone which now has a pay as you go card in it. This doesn't cost me much because I receive many more calls than I make. Doesn't help with GPRS though ... Cheers.

Dual Sim (Ghost Adapter) SHARE YOUR EXPERIANCE

many say dual sims work and many say they dont so whats the final verdict. i have an orange connection and they seem to scam me every month as i said too many text messages. i have just got one of those 300 free text message o2 sims and wanna use both of them togather without having to carry another phone.

i think you will find that your phone is locked to you network. so you won't be able to use the o2 sim.

SORTED!!
for anyone who is scare of doing this ive doen it and it works. i have an orange contract sim card and o2 onlien pay as you go sim card working togather. these sims are both new so this has nothing to do with how new the sim cards are so thats bull.
the adapter i bought was a cheaop chinese one rather than ones people pay £15 pounds for so its dosent matter if you see a cheap one.
the hardest part was cuttiing the sims cos i was scared i would make them useless but there were stickers that helped to outline how to cut them. still i had to cut some of the sim bits as well. works fine. another diffciult bit was getting the stickers off.
dotn worry after you cut them you get a resume card which you can use to make your sim normal again and it all works fine.
im me if you have any questions ill be more than happy to assist as i can...

I bought two adaptors because initially I didn't want to cut the SIMs and I had no idea how they phisically where. Here you can see the photos:
http://pof.eslack.org/blog/2005/05/19/dual-sim/
The first one doesn't fit, so I had to cut the sims and use the second one. It works fine for me. Just turn flight mode on and then off again to switch sims.
FYI I bought them at eBay, really cheap.

Were you able to fit it at the back? Were you able to close back the battery properly. I am worried that the space at the back will not allow such SIM adaptor. Waiting for your reply as I do intend to use another SIMCard if possible.

The one where you don't have to cut the SIMs doesn't fit, so don't buy it.
This one is the one that fits, because its the size of a single SIM card, but contains two SIMs:
http://pof.eslack.org/blog/wp-content/dualsimholder.jpg

the adpater is thicker no doubt. you can push it in though. if you dont wanna get it out every so often theres no problem. if you do then you are going to have a struggle. when you do take it out do it carefully cos you dotn want to break the clip that holds the sim. i havent broken mine but always scared i will.
BUY THE ONE WHERE YOU HAVE TO CLIP THE SIM. SOUNDS SCARY BUT IF I CAN DO IT SO CAN YOU. IM NOT GOOD WITH DELICATE THINGS LIKE THAT AND I MANAGED

forgot to tell you one thing. it does make life simple by not having to swap sims or carry two phones. the hassle is when you have to keep switching the radio off or dooing a soft reset to swap around. someone on this forum suggested a facility where you could use two sims at the same time so you could get netrwork from both. good idea but not possible i thought about it and im not a techie.everytime i go on the tube it swaps netwroks when im underground. that is a hassle but i guess theres good and bad things about everything.
read about the sim programming sim if you can get hold of that get it cos that sounds interesting. i cannotbe bothered as this works fine for me.

Why so confusion...Gaurav...go to any telephone shop and ask for a dual sim adaptor where ever u are in India....the shop man will show u differrent kinds of the adapters...choose one which fits your device ...
I am using the ghost sim,,,china made...in XDA2s very successfully since past 3 months.... 8)

hdubli... im indian but live in teh uk so its bit difficult. i saw them really cheap whilst on holiday last time. round here cannot find shops that seel them cheap so had to get it off ebay. think i got hold of the same one as you but i bet you got it 10 times cheaper than what i paid maybe you can start supplying to people from there. i dunno...
would be nice if there was an accessorties shop of some sort on this forum where people could buy tested items which are guaranteed to work.

http://dualsim.dnsalias.org
Check out this article: Dual Sim Adapter - Is It Any Good?
It's about my personal experience with a twin sim ghost adapter and might contain information you consider useful.

Ghost Dual SIM
I bought a Php500 (around USD9) Ghost Dual SIM Adaptor.
It works flawlessly switching between my main Globe SIM Card and my secondary 24/7 Sun Cellular SIM.
Switching is done thru Flight Mode ON/OFF. Losing signal like passing thru basement parking and elevators does not switch SIMS.
As bonus, the local mobile phone accessory stores here in Philippines have their own puncher so trimming the SIM card is not a problem. They do it for free.

2in1 sim-menu

Re: Ghost Dual SIM
xcalibur said:
I bought a Php500 (around USD9) Ghost Dual SIM Adaptor.
It works flawlessly switching between my main Globe SIM Card and my secondary 24/7 Sun Cellular SIM.
Switching is done thru Flight Mode ON/OFF. Losing signal like passing thru basement parking and elevators does not switch SIMS.
As bonus, the local mobile phone accessory stores here in Philippines have their own puncher so trimming the SIM card is not a problem. They do it for free.
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thats the same one which i had, it broke after about the 5th time i took it out

With that information, I will never remove this Dual SIM Adaptor until it is really necessary and unavoidable.
Actually, I installed mine in the store where I bought it. The first two adaptors were defective. Of course, I didnt pay for it. I expected high defects rate of these SIM Adaptors as they really look cheap construction-wise.

Multi SIM - SIM MAX - changing phone number by STK
HIIII! I'm from Portugal and i have bought a SIM MAX ( http://www.sim-max.com/ ), i´ve programed 2 of the 12 numbers that the card supports. In my Alcatel mobile phone it works, but in my Qtek 9090 only works with the 1th number, i can't change between numbers or networks....
Can any one program the Radio version to make it possible, in my alcatel, in STK menu e see the SIM options and i can change between the 12 numbers, but in my Qtek 9090 i can´t see the STK options...
Qtek 9090
Rom Version: 1.40.00 WWE
Rom date: 03/10/05
Radio version: 1.12.00
Protocol version: 1337.42
ExtRom version: 1.40.147 WWE

Be CAREFUL
while inserting the dual sim "container".
Not only is the cintainer "fragile", the QTEK ALSO.
I bought a dual and, while trying to insert it, I broke one of the two "metal clamps" that hold it on the sides.
Happily I can still fit the dual sim inside and, by pushing the battery on it, it stands still... and works....
However: since then the QTEK does not "feel" the backup battery anymore.
on every reset I get the "low backup battery msg" and indeed if I look at the battery level in settings a nice 0% is shown.
Annoying but at least I did not broke it altogether.
So: be careful and if someone has some clue on how to repair let me know.
Ciao

King of Doublecard SIM adapter

How many people on here have the king of doublecard twin sim adapter off ebay and how are you getting on with them?
Does the battery still fit ok?

Mine arrived today & I fitted it in a matter of a couple of minutes - the battery still fits, the two SIMs lie flat no problem.
I've also splashed out on the WIVIT SIM Status switching software

I have the one where you have to cut the sims, working very well. Done quite a few for friends, cant go wrong. Try it, no need to pay for a switcher, it has an stk app that does that

king of doublecard working great for me.

THANKS GUYS was looking forsomething like this, just orded mine
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just an after-tought, d u rekon there will ever be a device that will let you run 2 sim cards at the same time? YEH I KNOW whishfull thinking? lol
whats your thoughts???

abbas said:
I have the one where you have to cut the sims, working very well. Done quite a few for friends, cant go wrong. Try it, no need to pay for a switcher, it has an stk app that does that
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can you explain further ...with pics would be nice
thanks

anyone got a link to this on ebay? cant find it anywhere!

I did a post somewhere on the board showing you ebay links and methods.
I've got one without the stk app, so you have to go to flight mode off, then on, to switch, but cutting the sim cards, although risky, can be done successfully, as I've done it with an O2 contract and orange PAYG.
V

did people actually slice up their SIMs ??? :shock:

Hi guys go mine and it works atreat now , bought it from ebay
Not going to lie to you, the product is made from poor :twisted: quality but from £3. I get my money worth, and it does the job the ways i can switch are either by doing a soft rest or by puting the phone into flightmode and then back to normal phone mode, , iv addedsomepics for your benifit. :arrow:

Guys, I've got a magician and I sliced and diced my cards fine.
Had troubles getting the Magician to register the sims, but that was because of it not providing enough pressure on the back of the SIM (stick some paper into the metal sleave to correct this).
This is the ebay link for the one I bought:
Look for "UNIVERSAL DUAL SIM **SHIPPED FROM THE UK**". I cost me about £3. The card is fine, the guy was ok, but shipping was steep from London (ie P&P is hiked up, but overall can't complain).
It works, but there is another one out with an "STK" menu built in to switch cards by going into the SimToolKit program. However, it's easy enough to go to flight mode and back quickly enough to switch. I read that this one drains battery faster. No comment on that. It worked for me.
So: SLICING DOES WORK. But, do it carefully. I've posted about 10 times on this - do it carefully, ensure you remove the transparent guide sticker after the cutting, and check it in a nokia or another phone before putting it in the Magician, to convince yourself you've done the slicing correctly
That ebay guy will also "stamp cut" the cards for you for free if you post them to him.
Good luck!
No, it's not possible to have two sims working simultaneously. Best we can hope for is 2 lines per sim, like Orange's Line2 service.
There are some cards that are 16in1 card copiers etc. these don't work in the UK, and will fubar your SIM when trying to crack the encryption. Be warned
V

There was a phone once, sometime in 2000 I think, it was a benefon dual band (1800/900) that worked in europe. That phone had two SIM slots. Too bad they did not make more
http://www.cellular.co.za/phones/benefon/benefon_twin_dual_sim.htm
http://www.ohct.com/content/84/
http://www.benefon.com/russia/products/twin/faq.htm

TO vijay555
2sims working at once in a pda,, i know mate but let me keep on hoping lol

what about the data settings then?
sounds great, I am tempted to go for it, but do you have to re-enter the GPRS settings each time you switch from a sim card to another? Since say, O2 and orange don't use the same proxy servers to connect to the web via GPRS, I guess the right proxy details must be entered after each switch. Am I wrong? Can you connect to O2 mobile web using your o2 sim card, then switch to your orange sim and connect to orange world without making any change to the connections details?
Cheers

I think you will have to reenter the details each time.
However, if you're in the UK, there are cabs available on the board, or from Buymobilephones.net, with all the settings in one file.
So, switch to o2, click the cab and you're running. And likewise with Orange etc.
V

You can create all different accounts in the network section and just choose the right one you want to use. I have one SIM now, but several accounts for GPRS usage, MMS, dial-up connections etc. I just select the one I want to use in Settings-Connections-Advanced-Select Networks. The only problems that could exist are with sms and voice mail accounts, but I think these are stored in the network in combination with your sim card, so these should be ok as well.

that's great -thanks

Hi
I can buy double sim card for you all and ship it to your locations....
Send me your Model.
USD : 10
EURO : 8.14
UK : 5.55
Plus two dollar for shipping .
I will soon list it on Ebay if I get a good response.
Dhruv

I am seriously considering getting a king of double card for my SX66.
Can I still use the apps on my SIM (the ones accessed through "SIM Toolkit" or will I lose that ability once I use KODC ?

I am seriously considering getting a king of double card for my SX66.
Can I still use the apps on my SIM (the ones accessed through "SIM Toolkit" or will I lose that ability once I use KODC ?

Simore - Dual SIM

Hallo everybody.
I have a corporate sim without Internet traffic, so I would have a second private SIM card to use to surf Internet.
I was looking at Simore solution
http://www.simore.ch//en/mobile_phone_accessory/HTC/TOUCH.html
I have some doubt, because the SIM insertion space is very very tiny.
Someone has tested another solution yet? Thanks

Well, if you were to look at the installation guide video (bottom of each product page), you would see that, the dual sims method they are using is by trimming your existing sim for the job. Hence, you basically cut your existing SIM to almost 1/2 size of a normal SIM, and put it into the adapter, which is a standard SIM size, hence ought to work (with all phones, size matters). Howver, it is surprising that the smaller one cost less than the bigger version

Bought a 16th gen dualsim adapter, will review it when i have it.

I have it!
It's easy work to make your sims the size it's required to be. Just use a very sharp scissor as it will make the progress easier.
My Vodafone simcard works flawlessly, though my t-mobile simcard refuses to do anything. Might be because i cut it the wrong way / too far inside / or the t-mobile sims are just *****es.
Fitting in the slot isn't that big of a problem, getting it out it.
You need some patience to get it out, but once everything works flawlessly, you'll never need switch sims again.
Ill post images if people want to see it.

maseo said:
I have it!
It's easy work to make your sims the size it's required to be. Just use a very sharp scissor as it will make the progress easier.
My Vodafone simcard works flawlessly, though my t-mobile simcard refuses to do anything. Might be because i cut it the wrong way / too far inside / or the t-mobile sims are just *****es.
Fitting in the slot isn't that big of a problem, getting it out it.
You need some patience to get it out, but once everything works flawlessly, you'll never need switch sims again.
Ill post images if people want to see it.
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Can you give us the link where you bought it please?

www.ebay.com It cost me €10 and some patience instead of ±€15 exc. shipping fees
If you know dutch here's a shop that sells them.
http://www.dual-sim.nl/
and i have a (maybe not too elegant) solution for the issue of removing.
Cut a can in pieces, cola can, bullit can, whatever can.
then cut a piece to shape so that it firmly fits between the metal "housing/holder" and your sim cards, with a piece sticking out side of the housing next to the "stop". (see pictures for more explanation)
If you see it you'll understand what i mean.

I too have this issue... Will both of the phone numbers ring when inserted or do you have to make one the master and the other one redundant if you know what i mean? I have 2 business phone numbers - dont ask! - and i would love to have them both on my Elf.
I am sick of carrying 2 phones around and would love a all in one solution... Especially since my other phone is very close to dying at the moment!

no. you can't get both working at the same time. you'll have to switch on/off (e.g. flight mode) to switch between them. only one can work. there are, however, some phone from china that uses a dual-sim phone (a whole phone, their phone, not sim adapter) that, as according to them enable both sims to work at the same time. these china folks are gooood.

So you say that there's no problem to insert the metal case into the ELF Sim slot ? This is my major question, because I think that the tool is absolutely good, but I'm concerned about the room to insert it into an ELF sim'slot.
Thanks to all.

There is no hussle to get it in there, just a bit tricky to get it out.
I got my 16th gen dual sim working fine now!
Both my T-mobile AND Vodafone sim's work.
Switch, soft reset, and voila! My other phone number is online

maseo said:
There is no hussle to get it in there, just a bit tricky to get it out.
I got my 16th gen dual sim working fine now!
Both my T-mobile AND Vodafone sim's work.
Switch, soft reset, and voila! My other phone number is online
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anyone know if this dual sim can connect and use 3g/umts and make videcall?

dodba said:
anyone know if this dual sim can connect and use 3g/umts and make videcall?
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3G/UMTS networks should work. My manual said if needed switch to manual network and choose 3G/UMTS.
Vidcalls i wouldn't know

maseo said:
There is no hussle to get it in there, just a bit tricky to get it out.
I got my 16th gen dual sim working fine now!
Both my T-mobile AND Vodafone sim's work.
Switch, soft reset, and voila! My other phone number is online
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Hi Maseo, where did you purchase the dual sim adapter and do you think it will work on a TyTN2 ? Should it function with the DUALSIM TODAY software ?
Thanks !

i saw a simcard to which you can clone around 16 simcards, so you will have an additional menu where you can select which sim to use. you won't need to cut your sim - just a small usb-stick sized device which will read data and settings from your sim and will record it to the new simcard. you will still be able to use your original sim afterwards!
imho, this is a better solution. the only downside is that not all sims can be read.

[email protected] said:
i saw a simcard to which you can clone around 16 simcards, so you will have an additional menu where you can select which sim to use. you won't need to cut your sim - just a small usb-stick sized device which will read data and settings from your sim and will record it to the new simcard. you will still be able to use your original sim afterwards!
imho, this is a better solution. the only downside is that not all sims can be read.
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I've heard about that. The previously mentioned dual-sim.nl has such a dual-sim adapter as well: http://www.dual-sim.nl/product_info.php/products_id/148 (the dutch version) and http://www.dual-sim.eu/product_info.php/products_id/137 for the English version.
Drawback is that only V1 simcards (the very old ones) can be used for this tool. Nonetheless, the card has a regular dual-sim function as well.

[email protected] said:
i saw a simcard to which you can clone around 16 simcards, so you will have an additional menu where you can select which sim to use. you won't need to cut your sim - just a small usb-stick sized device which will read data and settings from your sim and will record it to the new simcard. you will still be able to use your original sim afterwards!
imho, this is a better solution. the only downside is that not all sims can be read.
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what this one i just ordered hope my sims work
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.12447
should have got this one
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.12425

Samsung is offering a proper dual SIM phone
It has dual radio so you can have both sim cards active, with the sim kit adapter basically you can switch between sims to make calls but only one of them will be active at any one time which in many cases isnot that useful

Guys this is best thing available except Coolpad....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhQvJYxeqU0
check it all urself... HKC W1000 & HKC G1000 works wonder..

I used this one http://www.dual-sim-adapter.com/dual-sim.html with my elfin and it's ok.
I have no problem for switching between sim cards.
I insert in my elfin, the digital twincard without the cover only with tape.
I like my elfin with dual-sim.

princepavs said:
Guys this is best thing available except Coolpad....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhQvJYxeqU0
check it all urself... HKC W1000 & HKC G1000 works wonder..
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i had this phone before but i wasn't that impressed.