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I hear everyone talking about Linux for PDA's and I find this amazing because I'm an old heavy Linux user. I am wondering, since they are coding Linux for PDA's will you still be able to use your GSM phone with Linux is installed? or GPRS features and such. Or is it just the operating system, no phone applications, etc. So mainly I'm trying to ask is Linux PDA ment for PDA's or PDA Phones?
I don't know about Xanadu (the linux being worked on for the Wallaby and Himalaya devices), but there is a Korean company whose name escapes me that does make a linux for PocketPC devices that are phones. Unfortunately I think that it is only compatible with CDMA phones.
Mizi linux is what the name is.
I looked at the company but they seem to be an OEM solution, they don't sell to individuals
AdmiralAK said:
linux being worked on for the Wallaby and Himalaya devices
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Blueangel is the most active and advanced port at the moment with the Universal
coming soon
I welcome anything not MS on my computers and PDAs. I'm moving to MacTel when it is released. Keeping a 5gig box just to sync PPC contacts, then migrate those contacts to Mac. I can't wait till the day I eradicate my units of MS crapware.
http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT8728350077.html
All linux pda's listed here including Yopy, Sharp and also Ipaqs although not native Linux it refers to the projects.
Those are nice units. But I was hoping that since Linux is an Open Source OS, us current PDA and PPC users don't have to buy a seperate unit to be able to use Linux. I would buy/donate USD$50 for a fast and stable Linux OS and buy shareware apps for it.
Edit: okay, maybe I'm being a cheep bastard for offering 50 bones. But I would even pay equal to MS XP as long as it proves to be stable and reliable.
cr2 said:
AdmiralAK said:
linux being worked on for the Wallaby and Himalaya devices
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Blueangel is the most active and advanced port at the moment with the Universal
coming soon
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wow :shock:
the link in the wiki doesn't tell me much - I just assumed it was wallaby and himalaya only
AdmiralAK said:
wow :shock:
the link in the wiki doesn't tell me much - I just assumed it was wallaby and himalaya only
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wiki editing is dead at the moment, but i have already modified some pages to reflect the current status.
Is the wiki the only place to get information? or is there a forum within xda-dev where people gather?
nomadman said:
Is the wiki the only place to get information? or is there a forum within xda-dev where people gather?
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Join #htc-blueangel on irc.freenode.net if you need support or want to help bringing linux to the blueangel
Now I now that there is a thread in the WIKI about this, but I read here somwhere that HTC was looking at Linux as the OS for future phones.
Does any one know, or have heared anything about this. Personaly I think it would be a great leep forward for the industry but then who am I to have views on this. Any thoughts??
Yes, I was the one who posted the thread on it - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=309842
Linux IS GOING to be the next platform for all HTC devices, by end of this year or early next year, its still in testing and I have no info as such abt the OS. As soon I get any more info, Im gonna inform. And yea, Im tired of wm, linux would be a gr8 gr8 advancment over microsoft's crappy OS, onto a opensource heaven...
Without specifically talking about HTC - Ubuntu is working on a mobile ubuntu distrib:
It should work on all mobile devices eventually - and spell the end of the IPhone - just as it's taking off!
Here's a post of mine from the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=309842.
Funny you should say that. Have a look at this: http://www.wired.com/software/coolap...007/07/iphoney. In the article it mentions just this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded.
So Ubuntu mobile coming in October. As soon as a good GPS navigation software release for Ubuntu comes out - I'm trying it.
I am currently asking around if people would be interested in Ubuntu MID for HTC Hero?
Now my question is would you be interested in this?
http://www.ubuntu.com/products/mobile
i am interested..
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Just went to your site and from the look of it , it looks amazing!, really impressive and hoping this will actually come out soon
yes imteresed
kosworld said:
yes imteresed
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same here looks nice
I know that we are on the Hero section, but your post seems to be interesting for the Archos:
http://www.archos.com/products/imt/archos_5it/dualos.html?country=gb&lang=en
I think it will be easier with the dual boot
@dbschr - Will you be developing this project, compiling a capable kernel is going to require a lot of attention, especially as the hero isn't open-source.
I would be interested fo sure - but why do You ask?
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@dbschr - Will you be developing this project, compiling a capable kernel is going to require a lot of attention, especially as the hero isn't open-source.
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The kernel's open-source, and the underlying OS is open-source. Yeah, the HTC drivers are closed, but with the kernel itself being open, they would be very easy to implement in another OS, like Ubuntu Mobile.
that day i was reading in a website that nokia n900 is dual booting ubuntu mobile without any significant lag.
Count me in
as I know, Ubuntu MID is targeted for Internet devices, or recently known as Tablets..
I don't know if you can make calls with this distribution !!
but .. what's the harm in trying?! downloading..
i would be interested...as long as i would have all the basic functions of my Hero working(Phone,modem,gps,3d drivers,speakers,accelerometer,hardware buttons,etc)
HD2
how would i go about loading Ubuntu MID onto my HD2, the hardware can more than handle it i just don't know enough about the boot loader to re-write it.
You can actually mount any distro and connect with vnc to it... i know someone on Modaco who managed to run a fully Ubuntu on his Hero But it's almost unusable...
Details for running linux on your hero here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=582347
Has any development actually begun?
Ubuntu MID edition is actually discontinued, if you read the wiki.
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You can actually mount any distro and connect with vnc to it... i know someone on Modaco who managed to run a fully Ubuntu on his Hero But it's almost unusable...
Details for running linux on your hero here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=582347
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this different. it is a chroot environment, not ubuntu actually running on the phone.
I bought this hero for android so I cant see the thing about having a sluggish os like ubuntu on it!! I would rather see slitaz linux to see how fast it runs as its a desktop distro at 27mb is quick!!!
The more ablities I have, the better the world is. I'm in!
Does anyone know if its possible to flash Windows Moile O/S onto a HTC Desire which is currently running Android 2.1?
I think the answer to this is no, as it would be unlicensed from a WinMo perspective, and therefore count as warez if distributed. Sorry.
I think the answer is no！
I think the answer is no！
HTC said that they would do better on their each own system before.
So...
No, because Windows Mobile is closed source. Android can be ported to many devices, cause it is (mostly) open source, but that's not the case with Windows Mobile.
And why would you want it anyway? Android is much better.
Meh, I'm tired of these claims. This is not the case at all and having source to Windows Mobile itself is mostly irrelevant. Think about it. Was source ever needed to port WM 6.5 to devices that shipped with WM5? Would it really matter that most of Windows Mobile/Pocket PC shell and OS components are closed source once you've ported a compatible Windows CE kernel to your new hardware? Of course not!
In theory, all you ever really needed to run a full WM/CE on new hardware was the Windows CE kernel (OAL portion) ported to your specific hardware and drivers to make things like the screen work. Once that is done, porting WM wouldn't be any different than upgrading it on a device it shipped with. Of course, you wouldn't have the same flexibility of fixing OS bugs as with linux, but it should still be doable. Outside the embedded HW experience needed to port a kernel, the biggest issue to overcome I see is driver support. Sadly, way too many OEMs and chipset vendors (Qualcomm, Nvidia) distribute binary only drivers for their proprietary hardware. Outside of a few community efforts, this driver situation only seems marginally better on commercial Linux devices but better it is. Linux probably has more community developed drivers with source but nothing is stopping people from porting these to CE. I suppose it all comes down to developer interest (or lack thereof). Open source enthusiasts who have positive things to say about the Windows CE OS seem few and far between and most of the capable people here seem focused on just enhancing existing hardware with the OS or GUI skinning rather than porting the OS itself to newer, interesting hardware. I guess there has always been a real lack of people with the lethal combination of skill and passion in the various Windows CE enthusiast communities.
I still think of Windows CE as Microsoft's little closed source answer to Linux in the embedded space. Yeah, you may not get all the source and things like corelibc may be lacking, but it's still runs on a wider variety of hardware than XP ever will and for a (mostly) closed source, embedded OS, offers more open, familiar development options than most of the competition outside *nix varients. Again, just look at the recent ports of Windows Mobile 6 to the HTC Magician.
The only reason Windows Mobile (or at least CE) hasn't been ported to more aftermarket hardware is lacking developer interest. Windows CE itself has already been ported to the GP32 and original Xbox which died due to poor developer interest.
As for Android... I'm sorry, Android is cute and all but it still lacks the range of development tools and powerful desktop level productivity applications like Softmaker Office that Windows CE based platforms have enjoyed for years. And no, VNCing into a locally running X server on a debian install and using a copy of Abiword doesn't count. It's getting there, though I still prefer CE.
TFGBD,
WM5 and WM6 are the same kernel, of course that can be ported. WM on the Desire will not happen.
Simple as that.
shaundalglish said:
TFGBD,
WM5 and WM6 are the same kernel, of course that can be ported. WM on the Desire will not happen.
Simple as that.
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Yeah, it's very, very unlikely anyone will ever port a CE 5.x or any other CE kernel version to the Desire or other hardware but it's not impossible. That was the point. People said the same about the Magician getting a 5.x kernel OS like WM6. True, it's still WinCE, I was simply pointing out that little is impossible when/if the right person becomes interested and puts their mind to it. Who knows? Maybe someone was already discouraged by forceful allegations that porting WinCE to hardware it never shipped with was impossible. I was just offering some words of encouragement.
Hello All Seeing as Micro$oft has abandon the line of Sidewinder gaming devices and most of them only function in a 32bit os or only on winxp or earlier i figured if i post the source code here maybe someone could get it working on 64bit and later 32bit OS's past WinXP. Please Note This Source Code Is considered AS IS. And as such will most likely req. some reworking for OS's later then XP so you will need c sharp knowledge. all i ask is you keep this hardware alive. Source Code Attached to post