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I have an Unlocked T-mobile Dash that I use on Rogers network in Toronto Canada.
The value for Automatic Time/TimeZones in Settings->Clock&Alarm keeps switching back to "Enable" on it's own. And that in turn screws with the dates and times of my appointments.
Has anyone else had the same problem?
Is there a way to change default setting for this parameter to "Disable"?
Any input is greatly appreciated.
David
Wish I had good news for you... but for some reason T-Mobile has disabled the ability to turn this off. It will only stay off until you reboot the phone. I've read that other phones, the Blackjack in particular, retain this setting when it's changed.
Someone else may come up with a registry setting to make the change permanent, wish I knew of one
I hate this too !!!!!!!!!!!
you're not the only one with this problem...
I've an open problem ticket with microsoft for perhaps some answers but don't hold your breath
meanwhile, no one has a fix for this...
the only way to resolve the issue is to fall in line with the microsoft implementation of outlook meeting/appointment scheduling which is to always record the meeting/appointment time RELATIVE to the timezone you are in when you make the entry
for example, if you're in Dallas TX on Central time and need to record a meeting in NYC 2days from now, if the NYCity meeting is at 2pm you MUST record the meeting time as 1pm which is the meeting time relative to the Dallas timezone. When you arrive in NYCity and you turn on your DASH/Excalibur it will automatically (since enable is forced ON) reset time to NYCity local time and reset the timezone to Eastern. When this happens your meeting time becomes 2pm, the correct time.
I hate this implementation but its a known "FEATURE" of WM5 and Outlook calendar operation. My investigation has found three groups of opinions:
- those who have learned to live with this implementation and agree with it
- those who have never figured it out and have given up
- those like me who hate the implementation and are looking for microsoft to add a checkbox to outlook meeting which makes the meeting time absolute and unaffected by change in timezone
Its also been suggested that a program like CityTimeSP might work ... I've downloaded and tested the 15day trial and it works as advertised allowing one to setup calendar events in other timezones without having to make the mental timezone calculation so that when you arrive and your phone time/timezone syncs all your meetings will show the correct time.
http://www.codecity.net/prodctsp.htm
good luck
A little clarification: The previous poster mentioned a "microsoft implementation" of "always recording the meeting/appointment time RELATIVE to the timezone you are in" -- this is his implementation, not Microsoft's. Once understood, the Microsoft implementation is actually pretty slick.
You can specify a time zone for an appointment when entering it in desktop Outlook -- there's a button in the appointment entry window labeled 'time zone'; when you click it you can specify alternate time zones. It's actually a powerful way to handle time zones that I was unaware of until a couple days ago. While at home, alternate time-zone appointments display earlier/later (depending on the time-zone) -- once you get there, they display correctly as your Dash pulls time and time-zone from your new location.
The real issue is that when creating appointments on your smartphone, there isn't a way to enter time zone info. Until there is, you can enter 'away' time-zone appointments on your desktop and sync them, or edit ones you've created on your phone after they sync to Outlook.
Or, jump through some hoops and add another layer to your calendar with the Citytime product, kind of overkill just to deal with time zones, but it is an option.
Pocket Informant for the PPC (not smartphone) does allow the editing of time zone info in an appointment -- hopefully a future release of the smartphone version of Pocket Informant (Papyrus) will offer this as well.
Regardless of my phrasing, I suggest you go to desktop Outlook help and search for the keyword "timezone", then read the "about timezone" and "troubleshooting timezone" items which should clarify how microsoft has implemented timezone processing.
Same exact thing happens to me and I am on Rogers Canada as well. I just learn to change the auto time zone back to disabled everytime I time I reset.
How interesting
sfu_engineer said:
Same exact thing happens to me and I am on Rogers Canada as well. I just learn to change the auto time zone back to disabled everytime I time I reset.
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Does this happen on a HTC S620 as well?
oh, I am on FIDO, Canada.. which I guess is Robbers too?
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It's probably a firmware thing. I am using a TMOBILE DASH if it matters. I am too lazy to upgrade the firmware to HTC 620 though
My dash changes from Pacific time to Mountain time... No date change tho.
looking at the date of the original post ... I believed this is due to the extended "daylight saving time" the USA implemented this year (2007)
there have since been a patch release to resolved this issue:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/daylightsaving/default.mspx
Was just reading a similar thread in HowardForums. They don't have a sure-fire fix either. It really is frustrating. I have just learnt to reset the time zone info each time I have had to reset my phone.
I fly a lot and my Dash is the only WM device I have ever owned that updates itself to time of the country I am visiting even if I have this option turned off.
OK, I can live with that if I have to, but when I arrive back in my country (UK) and turn my phone back on the time (and appointments) remain as at the last destination forcing me to have to manually update the time and turn off auto-time zone settings AGAIN.
The feature does not stay turned off though, because the next time I arrive abroad.....Bam, the auto-time zone settings have turned them selves back on again and the entire cycles starts again.
I am using the dreadfully buggy T-Mobile WM6. Hopefully when HTC finally release their WM6 version the problem will have been fixed.
Yup, I feel your pain. I am an airline Pilot, so you can imagine how frustrated I get!! I hope there is a fix for this soon. Otherwise, I really like the Dash.
Same here It drives me nuts.
The solution is to use the timezone feature in Outlook. Specifiy the time-zone for your appointments in Outlook. If you do this, then everything displays correctly as you change timezones. It's actually a slick feature if used correctly. It's even easier than complaining about it
That's not what I am 'complaining' about.
Even with the auto-time zone off....
I leave the UK. Clock = UTC
I arrive in Orlando and the time changes to UTC-5
I arrive back in the UK and the phone is still on UTC-5
With the setting off it should stay on UTC time forever.
It wouldn't be so bad it if chnaged the time without me wanting to do it, but the fact it does not change back to my home time zone on arrival back home is irritating.
Works great for me -- must be there's something wrong with your device.
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That's not what I am 'complaining' about.
Even with the auto-time zone off....
I leave the UK. Clock = UTC
I arrive in Orlando and the time changes to UTC-5
I arrive back in the UK and the phone is still on UTC-5
With the setting off it should stay on UTC time forever.
It wouldn't be so bad it if chnaged the time without me wanting to do it, but the fact it does not change back to my home time zone on arrival back home is irritating.
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Should be Ok for me too form now on sinice I've just dumped the buggy T-Mobile ROM
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Works great for me -- must be there's something wrong with your device.
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Not so sure about that......there are several of us that have the same problem. It's most frustrating.
hi
i have searched google prior to posting here and it came up with photo contacts, but thats a lot more than what i need, also when i checked compatibility it said if you have an HTC s620 you need the smartphone edition, but looking at the features the SP edition doesnt seem to detail the scheduled times of silence/profiles like the touch screen version
all i want to have enabled is this:
lets say at 11pm each night, the phone makes itself silent.
then at 8am in the morning it reverts to normal profile again.
on my iphone, i have the kate software which does that for me, but nothing i can see for the excalibur
if anyone knows of anything that would be great
thanks
quaddy
I haven't tried this, but I believe you could set up an appointment in your calendar from, say, 11pm-8am repeating daily. Windows Mobile can set your profile as silent just like being in a meeting for that time period. It'd be the cheap-and-easy fix.
CT Scheduler, Autoflight, and Switchprofile! are two non-free applications that can do what you want.
DontForget and Snooze are two free ones that might work.
Check clickapps.com, smartphone-freeware.com, and connectivetools.com for them.
Yeah just set an appointment at the time u want it to be silent and set your status to busy I think. Then set your profile to automatic to when even that appointment starts it will automatically be silent
I use Cell Profile Switcher, it switches profiles based on what cell tower i am connected to.
http://maniac.fschreiner.de/content/view/9/18/
idk
i havent tried i out yet but that might wrk
WOW - thanks for all the suggestions, greatly appreciated!
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I've set up my gmail account with my htc desire and can access my emails fine using the Google mail application (the one with a red M in an envelope). However, to test the push email function, I emailed myself from another account. On my pc, the email arrived instantly, but my desire didn't notify of a new message till almost 15 minutes later.
Is there a setting somewhere that i might have missed - to enable retrieval of emails as they arrive?
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I've set up my gmail account with my htc desire and can access my emails fine using the Google mail application (the one with a red M in an envelope). However, to test the push email function, I emailed myself from another account. On my pc, the email arrived instantly, but my desire didn't notify of a new message till almost 15 minutes later.
Is there a setting somewhere that i might have missed - to enable retrieval of emails as they arrive?
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Were you using wifi? Push is really crap over wifi on the desire, the only time I get the push email instantly is when I use mobile data instead.
I was having the same problem and think that it doesnt allow push.
I then set ot up in exchange activesync but im worried about battery life :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=657065
Hope that is of some use.
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Were you using wifi? Push is really crap over wifi on the desire, the only time I get the push email instantly is when I use mobile data instead.
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Yeah I always use mobile data too. I hardly ever use wifi unless I'm downloading something big to my phone such as copilot maps.
Anyway, I've set it up with activesync now and push is working flawlessly. Sometimes I get notified of emails before they even arrive on my pc.
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I was having the same problem and think that it doesnt allow push.
I then set ot up in exchange activesync but im worried about battery life :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=657065
Hope that is of some use.
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hot-fuzz, I'm gonna start tomorrow with a full charge and have active sync running all day. I'll post my findings here if I observe dramatic decrease in battery life.
got it set up on the one i am using and it seems to work just fine. Emails appear on the phone within seconds of arriving at Gmail.
I do sometimes get periods where it is a bit slower though, i think generally when in a bad signal area where i only have 2G. I'm guessing when it has lower signal or only 2G, it may slow down the checking to save battery power or bandwidth or something....
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hot-fuzz, I'm gonna start tomorrow with a full charge and have active sync running all day. I'll post my findings here if I observe dramatic decrease in battery life.
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That would be very useful. Thinking of doing it myself.
If i have mine setup for every 5 minutes thats 13 times every hour (including on the hour). I need to know if exchange polls take up more battery than checking 13 times an hour, if i get less than 13 emails an hour via exchange (which i do).
hmmmmm
Be interesting what peoples findings are on battery life and different ways to grab email.
I want to get back to the main topic.
I came from HTC Hero where Gmail push (in the gmail app) worked perfect - also on the 2.1 custom roms.
Not on the Desire it does not push the mails instantley. I don't want to go the way over the HTC Mail app...
Anyone has an idea how to fix it?
I use the HTC Mail program to get main from my gmail account via Google's exchange server. I have it set up to check every hour from 00:00 to 23:59, and it usually does that, but I noticed a couple of days ago that the last check was at something like 00:06, and the time then was 2 in the afternoon. I did a manual check and it immediately picked up 3 emails which had been sent that day, confirming that it wasn't incorrectly displaying the last time it check - it really hadn't checked at all. It's been fine since then, but I don't want to have to check if it's checked properly, if you see what I mean.
Has anyone else had this? It failed to check on at least 12 consecutive occasions.
I've been trying to figure out why my battery life diminishes so quickly (stock battery).
In the battery info screen, i discovered my awake time was nearly 50% of my uptime!
Using spareparts, determined that the offending program was k9 mail.
The software is configured for imap push on 2 accounts (both on the same server - served by hostgator). Push is only set to for the inbox folder on each of the accounts. Background sync in k9 settings is set to always. Idle refresh frequency is set at 24 min for each account. Mobile data always on is enabled in the main android network settings (otherwise push doesn't work after the screen is off for 5 min).
When no email is received, awake time goes down, but whenever an email comes in, at least a minute is added to the awake time each time.
In conclusion, it would appear that whenever a push event occurs, k9 does not let the system go back to sleep until at least a minute has elapsed. Why not receive mail, then resume sleep immediately...
Is this lack of resuming sleep a function of the program, or something controlled by k9? Any way to force it back to sleep after the even has occurred?
I thought I'd post some thoughts since it's been a few days.
Digging around here and other forums didn't reveal a whole lot. The bugtracker at the developer's site gave instructions on how to enable logging on the client.
Reviewing the logs, it's clearly obvious that after each session, a wakelock of 60sec is enacted. This is where my awake time runaway is coming from! The more emails I get, the longer it stays awake. For every message received, wake time is incremented by a min. If a new message arrives 61 seconds since the last, awake time will increase by 2 min. This is a cumulative effect which gets worse as more messages are received.
Other clients such as maildroid seem to release the phone back to sleep as soon as the email is received.
I'm hopeful the folks at k9 find a solution for this in the near future. I think the client is one of the better ones with regard for granular configuration. Maildroid does the job, but wasn't a whole lot more robust than the htc client (other than for push support). Seven has some strange validation processes.
I know I can go by way of googlemail, but the accounts in question cannot be forwarded to google. So it leaves with choices.
1) Leave it as is until fixed and let the battery drain continue
2) Still have it setup as IMAP, but disable push altogether - this works, but to get new email, it has to resync the whole folder, which becomes more and more time consuming as the folder grows. A checking interval is set up (poll every x min)
3) similar to 2, but manual polling
4) other suggestions??
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5) get the source and fix it yourself.
I'm using k9 for 3 accounts and I've never noticed a battery drain.
If I knew how to program I would be all over this.
Unless your accounts are configured for push, and depending on the volume of email you receive, you may not notice this issue.
gpz1100 said:
If I knew how to program I would be all over this.
Unless your accounts are configured for push, and depending on the volume of email you receive, you may not notice this issue.
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I definitely use push, but the volume is pretty low.
Between the different accounts, i get a good 100+ mails a day... Easily subtracting nearly 2 hrs of wake time to my battery life when the device isn't really being used.
any updates? I too am facing with the high battery usage of K9, and I do get a lot of emails.
While using gmail client, the battery lasts a lot longer, ~36 hours. With K9, barely 14 hours!
Part of my fix was changing roms. Although both are based on the same ota, the current one doesn't seem to have issues with k9 (or not as much).
You might look into updating to the latest k9 too.. 3.708 is the most current, not on the market though - you need to go to dev's site.
yeah. ROMs it a good notice:
I dont have problems on the CyanogenMod 11 with battery drain