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So, I'm looking at getting a new smartphone through my work. Unfortunately I'm locked with Verizon, which is usually a slow adopter of new phones AND my work is a slow adopter of new Verizon phones, so I'm sorta double-whammied. My current phone is dying, so I need to upgrade now and seeing as it would likely be a year at the earliest before any Windows7 phones would be available for me I'm looking at upgrading now.
The TP2 is one device that I can get. I'm very familiar with Windows Mobile 6.1, so this has an appeal. But I have some questions.
Does anyone know if the GPS is "unlocked" out of the box? I'd like to use some GPS programs other than VZNavigator and I'm wondering if I need to install a custom ROM first.
Will a new TP2 device now be installed with 6.5 or will I need to upgrade? Can someone give me a quickie run down of 6.5 vs. 6.1?
How's the Battery life of the TP2? I'm a heavy power user so I want to make sure I can get through a day without charging.
Lastly, I _might_ be able to get a Droid. I've never used Android before, but I have to say that I'm tempted. Anyone have an opinion? Is the Droid a lot better? Is it worth trying to push for the Droid?
aGPS works out of the box, you need to make sure to use the Quick GPS tool to update the satellite though. There are some free navigation programs but I've heard they sometimes do not choose the most logical route. Garmin, Tom Tom, and other paid GPS programs should work as well.
The new VZW phone comes with 6.5 as far as I have seen lately. One ordered off their website in early April came with 6.5. Here is a post with everything you'll need to know about all windows 6 versions, 6.1 vs 6.5 will be down towards the bottom more: http://www.modaco.com/content/i9x0-...m/299717/com-branches-explained/#entry1153714
The phone can make it through a full day of usage in most scenarios. I would say unless you talk 3+ hours and run GPS, 3g/wifi, and multiple programs ALL day you should be fine. If not there are extended batteries you can purchase (although the phone is already big enough as it is).
In my opinion Android is a great OS, motorola is not my favorite phone manufacture, but beyond that it is still a nice device. It is slightly more responsive than the TP2. The keyboard is much more cramped and the top row is difficult to get use to. It doesn't quite replicate the desktop feel I get when I use WM. I can't give a real in depth break down because I've only messed with them a couple times.
Hope that helps your decision a little.
I have a coworker a few desks away from mine who has a Droid, and we often pass the time with a few heated rounds of "yeah, but can yours do this??" LOL Neither of us has done much to convince the other that our phone is better (his Droid vs my TP2)....but, the one thing he openly admits he wishes he had was the MUCH better hardware keyboard that I enjoy all day long
In fact, I suspect that once a fully-working version of android appears on the TP2, he'll be finding a way to sell his droid, and join the ranks of the HTC fans
Thank you both. I appreciate the info!
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Will a new TP2 device now be installed with 6.5 or will I need to upgrade? Can someone give me a quickie run down of 6.5 vs. 6.1?
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I'm pretty satisfied with 6.1, though I use SPB Mobile Shell for my UI. Though I can't give you a run down, having not used 6.5, the only feature I've come across yet that I actually want is a reg entry for the keyboard backlight. Also, last I checked Office Mobile 2010 is 6.5 only. Once OneNote Mobile 2010 is out, I'll probably bite the bullet and upgrade.
Personally I'd avoid the Droid. If I didn't need a better hardware keyboard than that, I'd probably get a Nexus One and use the on screen keyboard. Cramping the keys that close together with minimal key differentiation... I honestly don't know what the point of that was. Another nice thing about the Nexus One is you get OS updates straight from Google. No waiting on VZW and no fragmentation concerns.
Choosing the TP2 instead means being outdated in terms of power but having marvelous levels of interface comfort. I'm already plotting trying to find a similarly sized android snapdragon that I can somehow transplant into my TP2's casing. It's probably impossible, but it is super comfortable. I'll just have to dual boot and pretend I don't mind the ancient guts.
I've never heard the battery life described as anything other than average. Although the CPU is slow, the newer faster processors also come with new power-saving tech it doesn't have, so a nice snapdragon will go longer on the same battery capacity (though most snappys come with a smaller capacity battery stock). I'm actually using my VZW TP2 as a PDA right now, typically with all radios off, so my usage couldn't inform you. If you're a heavy power user, average might not do it. You can get a 1700ish mah battery that fits in the existing casing, or up to a 3500mah battery that requires a new battery cover if that suits you. Alternatively you can get a charger that charges both your phone and a spare battery simultaneously and swap as necessary.
Since this is posted in the TP2 sections, you'll get biased results, same as if you were to post this on the Droid forums. I have a Droid and my girlfriend has a Tilt 2. My Droid is rooted with AdamZ 2.1 Android and overclocked; the thing is lightning fast. My girlfriends Tilt 2 has been custom cooked with EnergyROM Sense 2.5 and have also installed Android to test it out.
Performance wise, the Droid is faster, much faster if overclocked; it was a huge performance upgrade for me since my previous phone was a Samsung Omnia i910 with a cooked WM 6.5 rom. There is virtually no noticeable lag between scrolling screens and opening apps. Her Tilt 2 was fairly slow out of the box loaded with AT&T bloatware, she even complained to me about the phone being laggy. However, it is noticeably faster since installing the cooked rom.
I know Android is still in it's beta phases for the TP2, but it's still fairly buggy, many of the apps don't function correctly and eventually gave up on using it.
If apps are a big thing for you, I'd stick with Android, as there are many more fun apps, many of them free. With the Windows Marketplace, many apps are merely trial or lite versions, an example being Shazam, which is free on Android, but limited to 10 uses on Windows. I'm not sure if it's just Microsoft's doing or what. Also, the Droid has Google Navigation, which is arguably the best GPS for a phone, and is completely free. I've even thought about selling my Garmin 265WT since I barely use it anymore.
As for the keyboard, the Tilt 2 is clearly better, but I've never had any problems typing on the Droid, which many people complain about. I type with the tips of my thumbs, so that may make a difference. Battery life is pretty much the same, which can last about a day or two depending on usage.
All in all, I'm happy with my decision and when I asked my girlfriend which phone she preferred, she picked mine, but the for her it was between an iPhone and a Tilt 2.
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Since this is posted in the TP2 sections, you'll get biased results, same as if you were to post this on the Droid forums.
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I actually disagree, especially considering the responses thus far. There's plenty of Android love in this thread, but I'd wager there'd be little WinMo love in a droid thread. I think TP2 users are dramatically more aware and more willing to admit to their device's weaknesses than users of more popular phones.
With all the screen issues, I'm very hesitant to buy a Nexus 7. Actually, I'd buy two; one for my wife and one for me. But, there seems to be no fix in sight for the all the screen issues. I'd rather have an 8 inch screen than a 7 inch screen, but I have no idea whether Google will produce a Nexus 8 in the next six months or so. And, Dell has their Venue 8 available for sale. It's screen resolution may not be as good as the Nexus, and it uses a dual core instead of a quad-core CPU. But, for web surfing, email, watching videos, it seems to do pretty well.
Wondering what forum members thoughts are. Will probably wait a little while and see if there are any negative reports on the Dell in the next few weeks. (All existing buyer reviews are pretty positive.)
Why do you need 8 inch? You should either buy 7 inch or 10+inch if you ask me, anything more than 7 inch is NOT portable, if you want a multimedia device to use at home don't buy 7 inch tablet. I don't have any screen issues, i think you should give more thought on what you need.
I have no idea why so many people think Google is going to make a nexus 8 when there is a nexus 7. They're not going to make a tablet from 5 to 10 just to satisfy every person who wants an obscure sized tablet. If Google ever makes 3rd nexus tablet choice it'll be larger than the 10 not in between 7 and 10.
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It's a hit or miss. Why not go to your most trusted retailer and test a couple out then pick the best screen you can find.
I don't have any issues with my unit.
Not sure what "screen issues" OP is referring to. Been using mine everyday for little over a week with no probs.
Bought one at Sams' Club last night and the screen has no issues.
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Why do you need 8 inch? You should either buy 7 inch or 10+inch if you ask me, anything more than 7 inch is NOT portable, if you want a multimedia device to use at home don't buy 7 inch tablet. I don't have any screen issues, i think you should give more thought on what you need.
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I can only guess that you don't know the physical size of the 8 inch is the same as the 7 inch, there's less screen border on the front.
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I have no idea why so many people think Google is going to make a nexus 8 when there is a nexus 7. They're not going to make a tablet from 5 to 10 just to satisfy every person who wants an obscure sized tablet. If Google ever makes 3rd nexus tablet choice it'll be larger than the 10 not in between 7 and 10.
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I guess people think there will be Nexus 8 because of the pic released by Google a few months ago. It was quickly photoshop'd to a Nexus 7 after the roar on the net. Since Google actually took a picture of someone using what appeared to be a Nexus 8, a number of people, including me, expected Google to release a Nexus 8 sometime.
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Not sure what "screen issues" OP is referring to. Been using mine everyday for little over a week with no probs.
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There's a nine page thread entitled Potential Touch Screen Fix. This forum is full of Nexus 7 2nd gen touch screen problems. It looks a hardware grounding issue. Some people are on their fourth and fifth units and still having the problems.
I'm glad your's has worked well for one week and another poster's has worked well for one day, but this seems to be a hit and miss issue. Plus, many people notice the problem after having had the unit a while.
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It's a hit or miss. Why not go to your most trusted retailer and test a couple out then pick the best screen you can find.
I don't have any issues with my unit.
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That seems to be the only real option. At least buying locally means you won't have to mail the unit back if its defective. You only have to return it to the store.
Unless, you want the additional geography of an 8 inch screen. I guess waiting seems to be the best bet.
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There's a nine page thread entitled Potential Touch Screen Fix. This forum is full of Nexus 7 2nd gen touch screen problems. It looks a hardware grounding issue. Some people are on their fourth and fifth units and still having the problems.
I'm glad your's has worked well for one week and another poster's has worked well for one day, but this seems to be a hit and miss issue. Plus, many people notice the problem after having had the unit a while.
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Gotcha, I guess I will just cross my fingers and hope that I don't experience any of the same issues. I will go ahead and look that thread up though, to at least familiarize myself with them in case they do arise. Thanks!
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I have had 2 with screen issues. The first one was extremely bad. 3 spots that didn't register touches practically at all. And the second one had touch issues and rebooting when the tablet was in a case. I was very disappointed. I am going to get a hp slate 7 extreme that runs the tegra 4. I play games often and the tegra 4 beats the snapdragon in gaming. The 1 gig of ram is still fine for the hp since kitkat is going to be running on it. The screen resolution is lower than the 7 v2 but it's still better than 720hd. The 7 v2 was my first choice but I feel that I gave Nexus 2 chances with their product and they failed.
Certainly don't wish anyone difficulties with their 7. In fact, the more positive current sales turn out to be, the more likely Asus has fixed these issues during manufacturing.
My wife and I have had a pair of Nexus 4 phones for over a year, and both are performing flawlessly. I guess we're looking for the same kind of reliability with a 7-8 inch tablet.
I'd love for Google to come out with a Nexus 8, like in the "old" screen shot. And, seeing what happens in the next few weeks seems like the safe bet.
Neither of us is a gamer, so we don't need the speed gamers require.
Mine made in August 2013, totally fine.
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The new Nexus 7 is my favorite device ever, and I use it hours a day even after months of having it. I'm actually glad I didn't get the LTE version because then it would never leave my side (tempting though, since TMobile offers free data for tablets).
From what I've seen on my Dell Venue 11, Windows 8 is nowhere near as easy to use or as useful as Android. It actually pisses me off sometimes, for well-known issues like battery drain and control panel. PM me if you want more thoughts on the Dell Venue.
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There's a nine page thread entitled Potential Touch Screen Fix. This forum is full of Nexus 7 2nd gen touch screen problems. It looks a hardware grounding issue. Some people are on their fourth and fifth units and still having the problems.
I'm glad your's has worked well for one week and another poster's has worked well for one day, but this seems to be a hit and miss issue. Plus, many people notice the problem after having had the unit a while.
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Hi -- I've had my unit since October and I've had absolutely zero problems with it. :3 I bought it from Best Buy.
LG GPad 8.3, Google Play Edition.
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Is these issue's still happening on the Nexii 7 2013? I want to buy one myself.
I got a Nexus 7 (2013) for Christmas, it was purchased from Best Buy. I already have an HTC One, and I have to say -- the Nexus 7 keeps up fine, despite inferior specs. And my HTC One feels so very small now. It only beats the Nexus 7 in sound. I was reluctant to open up my Nexus 7, I gave a lot of thought to returning it for the credit, but I'm glad I kept it now. Go get a Nexus 7!
And today's current rumor, from various component suppliers, is the Nexus 8 will be introduced this summer. (Background comments are that Google is disappointed in the sales of the current Nexus 7.)
Currently, the choices are Nexus 7 (2013) at $269 for 32 gb; LG G Pad 8.3 at $299 (street price) for 16gb but w/SDHC; or Dell Venue 8 at $179/$209 for 16/32 gb but w/SDHC. The Dell has less dense screen, but equal to the rest of the competition, and twin core CPU which is more than capable for videos.
I don't know how to "convert" std G Pad to Google Edition w/less bloatware and quicker OTA updates. If the OTA updates along from LG, and LG doesn't modify them, then the question becomes how much of delay in getting them from LG rather than from Google.
If either LG or Dell comes up with sweet deal, that might be the way to go. I'll have to keep my eyes open.
Hey everyone,
I really need a good tablet for home multimedia consumption and maybe college. I could get either version: SM-P600 or the 605.
Should I still purchase the note even though it's so old, I am kinda iffy because of the discontinued software updates etc?
What is the latest security patch?
Or, is there any other tablet with stylus that would be better?
I looked at the new Zenpad from Asus.
Would anyone be kind enough to help me? Thanks
It is still on android 5.1.1. There was a recent update and security patch is sept 2016 i think. Great tablet though but a tad too expensive. If you dont have much use for the spen i would suggest a different tablet. Rom dev for this device is pretty active but i have stayed stock since i bought it.
Not sure what ur budget is. I would suggest sticking to mainstream brands. With asus i am not sure of dev support on xda or update support from asus themselves.
On a side note, nokia seems to be preparing to launch a new android tablet.
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Thanks for your help. Which model would you suggest getting 605 or 600? I wouldn't mind spending 500 for a brand new device. The s-pen would be very useful for me. I absolutely love the stylus and the abilities it gives you. Do you think I could still work with the 10.1 for 2 years?
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Thanks for your help. Which model would you suggest getting 605 or 600? I wouldn't mind spending 500 for a brand new device. The s-pen would be very useful for me. I absolutely love the stylus and the abilities it gives you. Do you think I could still work with the 10.1 for 2 years?
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Are you planning on installing a custom ROM? Not sure if the 605 you are looking at has an unlocked bootloader. That might make up your decision.
IMO, I would not spend $500 on the P600 becaues it is indeed 2 years old. I chose to get a second hand one a few weeks ago for a pretty good price (~$150). At that price, its a decent tablet but you can kind of tell it is getting a little old. With CM13 installed, there's new life in the tablet. Noticeably faster and mSD as internal storage are huge.
If s-pen is not a deal breaker, that Zenbook from Asus is nice. Is it 64GB/4GB?
Sorry I didn't express myself clear enough lol
I meant I would spend $500 on a new tablet. I would only dish out $200 for the note 10.1.
Yes, it's this one: ASUS Zenpad Z500M-C1-GR. It has stylus support as well. Unfortunately it's sold out on Amazon
I would recommend the Nvidia Shield K1 it's around 200 bucks. Good specs, xda area is filled with nice roms and works in progress. However it's a 8 inches tablet and has about 6000 mah capacity, the K1 versions doesn't have the stylus pen nor the charger included but you can buy the pen for about 10-20 bucks and you probably already have a charger.
The note 2014 have nice specs even in late 2016, but it's in shadows because of Samsung's bad support and woeful software, the oem roms are basically mandatory if you want the S-pen functions, the CM roms are maintained by some nice folks in the forum but they aren't still 100% yet and you loose yer S-pen functions (I'm aware of a specific app that can help restoring the S-pen functions, but its not 100%).
So I would recommend you to stay away from the Galaxy Note 10.1 2014.
had mine for 3 years now and its working perfectly and meets all my tablet needs, the best bit being the superb screen and I see no need to upgrade it
would I buy it now if I needed a tablet? at a reasonable price definitely yes...if you are an avid tablet gamer (im not) then I would consider one with more graphics power
but this tablet is still more than holding its own ...im on my 5th case! and its still immaculate
I'm very happy of how long this tablet has lasted me.
For a while there, when on the ok1 firmware (XAR), I couldn't install or update apps. It would reboot almost every time. I was considering getting a tabpro s (Windows10) as a replacement, but pulled the trigger on a gaming laptop instead.
With the latest update, everything is working great again. Not even rooted. Don't need to be. It may not be marshmallow, but getting support for literally 3 years since launch isn't bad. With no replacement/successor for the N10.1 2014 rumored, we may (probably not) get marshmallow before they fully kill support for this beast.
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If you can get one for a good price, I think it's still a very good tablet.
I dropped mine and shattered the screen a few months ago. Because if the way it is built, you cannot just replace the glass. The whole screen and digitizer is one unit. So, since there was no real other 10-inch tablet with the screen resolution and the S Pen support that the Note 10.1 has, I ended up buying a used one on eBay to replace it.
I am using mine everyday, and I use the S Pen all the time to take notes. It's replaced a paper notebook for me.
I had the opportunity to work with a Surface Pro tablet at work, and although it is a great machine, and it can replace a laptop, I found it a bit too big and heavy to use as a notebook replacement to take notes. I still carry my tablet everywhere with me.
Really good spec and pricing. $399 price tag , however with discount $100 for US resident which bring it down to $299. Just wondering if all the bands work with Tmobile and AT&T
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I'm probably going to grab one, but I need a CM / AOSP rom to be there.
Announcement says:
LTE-A, LTE, HSPA+, HSPA, UMTS, WCDMA, EDGE, GSM
LTE Bands 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/17/29/30/38
which is everything T-Mobile and AT&T need AFAIK
The product code it's LEX727 not LEX720 as chinese version. Have a new ROM 5.8.0.18S and updated kernel.
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The product code it's LEX727 not LEX720 as chinese version. Have a new ROM 5.8.0.18S and updated kernel.
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Yeah, the product version is different, but as ericerk mentioned, this needs CM/AOSP support (and kernel support) for it to be REALLY worthwhile. Not sure how I feel about just plugging in another chinese skin/ui on a phone, no matter the specs.
Are they releasing a limited amount of the Pro3 for their flash sale?
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has anyone seen the software for the Le Pro 3 phone called EUI 5.8?
im ok with it if it works and is not garbage. The hardware for the flash sale price of $299 is a steal.
otherwise im going with the OnePlus 3T coming out soon which is definitely going to have CM14 ported to it by someone. probably will only cost $399 I hope.
No offense but the device does sound like a good buy. But let's be honest, there to many great phones out in this price range now(Nexus 6p, op3, g4 plus, etc) that worrying about development is kinda dumb when those phones I mentioned offer tons of it already. Then on top of that 6p already on 7.1.1 dev preview, and g4 plus has soak test leak build of 7.0 out now......
Then on top of that the phone is on 6.0 MM....Why not 6.0.1 or especially 7.0?
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No offense but the device does sound like a good buy. But let's be honest, there to many great phones out in this price range now(Nexus 6p, op3, g4 plus, etc) that worrying about development is kinda dumb when those phones I mentioned offer tons of it already. Then on top of that 6p already on 7.1.1 dev preview, and g4 plus has soak test leak build of 7.0 out now......
Then on top of that the phone is on 6.0 MM....Why not 6.0.1 or especially 7.0?
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yea, I think you have a good point. I am starting to lean towards the oneplus phones, as they seem more dev friendly, and the company has no problems releasing source codes eventually for their phones.
today i got mine. and its a really nice and fast phone BUT the contrast and the colours are not the beste.
my last phone was a samsung note 4 and the display is even better.
The official Leeco products for US :
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The Le Pro3 US version offer :
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Note in specification : Not compatible with CDMA Carriers in U.S. (Verizon/Sprint /Boost )
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today i got mine. and its a really nice and fast phone BUT the contrast and the colours are not the beste.
my last phone was a samsung note 4 and the display is even better.
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Is yours the US model? I'm asking because I'm curious if it's as easy to bootloader unlock as the chinese model.
oh sorry wrong thread i got the european version
I'm very interested in the Le Pro 3. I currently have a Nexus 6 and have been considering an upgrade. I was about to pull the trigger on the Axon 7 but then I saw the promo for $299. An incredible price for the specifications. The biggest minus is no SDCard and questionable about how much development there will be. On the other hand the price and battery are worth considering. Must be rootable (which this phone is).
I cut my cable and phone off ages ago and rely on netflix / amazon prime for entertainment, so the streaming content might be something I'd be interested in as well.
Unfortunately I have only 1 shot (money is tight) and I'd hate to spend my one shot at an upgrade to get a dud. Decisions decisions....
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Yeah, the product version is different, but as ericerk mentioned, this needs CM/AOSP support (and kernel support) for it to be REALLY worthwhile. Not sure how I feel about just plugging in another chinese skin/ui on a phone, no matter the specs.
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i got the 720 international version of the phone which has dual sime , 6G Ram, 64 Ram, and the EUI5.8 i was told the EUI5.8 for both US and 'internation version' are almost same. as least for the main functionality part of it. here are some screen shoot. i feel it is better than the google's mm 6.0. and some niche control features. see the attached. i have used the phone for only few days. so far, the performance is very good ( lightning fast) and the battery just last ( compare to my old Samsung note 5), and with the built in phone management tool, you wont need other power saving apps. i compared to use greenify or just phone's power management, the battery performances are the same. so i removed the greenify. basically, i noticed there are quiet few firmware update for other LeEco previous models. so hopefully we will get good support for this new model as well. compare to native google phone, i prefer LeEco's control function . press the left bottom, you will get the full control interface which allow you to do few things in one screen. very handy!
I read online somewhere that on the Nov 2nd flash sale there is only an limited amount of devices that qualify for the $299 price
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I read online somewhere that on the Nov 2nd flash sale there is only an limited amount of devices that qualify for the $299 price
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During the Nov. 2 flash sale each customer is limited to 5 devices at the discounted rate, assuming the member has claimed the coupon all 5 times. Also, there is limited stock so be sure to order as soon as you can and if you do happen to miss the sale, don't worry there will be another.
I lost my Nexus 6 to water damage and ordered OnePlus 3, but their supply is very slow, it's taking more than 3 weeks to get shipped, so when Le Pro 3 was launched, I cancelled my OnePlus 3 order and waiting for Nov 2 to order it. With new manufacturer there are so many unknowns, but it this price point I am pretty sure enough people will buy this phone that we will have very good support for this phone on xda.
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I lost my Nexus 6 to water damage and ordered OnePlus 3, but their supply is very slow, it's taking more than 3 weeks to get shipped, so when Le Pro 3 was launched, I cancelled my OnePlus 3 order and waiting for Nov 2 to order it. With new manufacturer there are so many unknowns, but it this price point I am pretty sure enough people will buy this phone that we will have very good support for this phone on xda.
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I wonder if the slow down of shipments is due to the new oneplus 3T coming out soon??
I am not worried about dev support for le pro 3. I am worried about LeEco being lame and never releasing source code. they posted the source code on opensource.le.com but then took it down. Some people are saying the code was bad anyway. devs cant really do anything without the kernal source, its not worth their time and energy in that case.
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I read online somewhere that on the Nov 2nd flash sale there is only an limited amount of devices that qualify for the $299 price
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It says on the site that supplies are limited. In the Chinese debut they sold out 500,000 units in 15 seconds. I think US release might have less units but also it will have less buyers.
I've been on a year-long hunt for a new phone SPRINT compatible, and they all seem like downgrades. here's my checklist of features and how important they are (10) or aren't (1) to me:
1. unlocked / unlockable bootloader WITHOUT need for exploits: 10
2. sdcard slot: 10
3. user replaceable battery: 9
4. 3gb+ ram: 9
5. 2.4 ghz or faster, quadcore or SYNCHRONOUS octa: 8
6. finger print reader: 7
7. infrared blaster: 6
8. likely to OFFICIALLY receive android 8.0 update: 6
9. optical stabilized camera: 5
10. quick charge 2.0 or better: 7
95% off all devices ever since my contract expired December 1st last year either fail at Sprint network compatibility, or bootloader. over time I'm gradually accepting defeat on user replaceable batteries ;(
closest candidate for me is the lg v20 but there's virtually no breakthrough features on it to justify a 2 year "upgrade" to it from the note 4
I had an s5, bought a used note 4 about 8 months ago. (I've been using smart phones for about 15 years, since the ppc6700)
Had an upgrade available, was in the same boat. Purchased a g6 and sold my note. I sold my g6 yesterday and bought another used note.
Moral of the story?
If your current model makes you happy and there isn't a new phone that will make you more happy... Perhaps it's time to keep what you have. The v20 is nice, but without a home button... How much of an upgrade is it really? What will it really do that you can't do now? Perhaps complete a task in 7/10ths of a second faster?
Save your money. I'll be sticking with the note 4 for a long time. In the evolution of cell phone technology, the note 4 was a major pivot point. I don't see anything out there that doesn't include disgusting compromises.
I do wish the note 4 was waterproof, but I'll live. Heck... I could buy several replacements (if I damaged it) for less money then I would spend on a new phone.
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Okay?
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(I've been using smart phones for about 15 years, since the ppc6700)
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Great phone. Use to connect to my clients Servers to do maintenance and watch live TV with my Sling unit way, way before this was a thing.
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Great phone. Use to connect to my clients Servers to do maintenance and watch live TV with my Sling unit way, way before this was a thing.
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I remember coworkers (nicely) mocking me for using it. 'why would anyone want a big phone!' - couple of years later they all had their phablets.
Unfortunately, there is no upgrade that meets your requirements. When I broke my Note 4, I went with the Note Edge. Phone sucks compared to the regular note. I researched the V20, G6, G5. None of the current phones do what I want them to do. I almost got the V20, but xposed not being available for Nougat led me to get another Note 4. I think I'll be using Note 4's for the forseeable future. This has been by far my favorite phone, so I'm not complaining.
the LGV20 imo is the true successor to the note 4
made the jump 2 months ago and loving it
I refuse to buy a phone without an interchangeable battery......im a heavy user so stock batteries suck, I need my extended batteries