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automatic install without hacking rom!

Hi Folks,
i found a trick to make an autoinstall from strorage card (like from extended Rom)!
autorun.exe looks for the file config.txt on the place is in registry stored in:
"HKLM\Comm"
"AutoRunCFG" = "\Speicherkarte\Autoinstall\config.txt"
so i changed the registry entry and now i am able to put config.txt and the files to install on every place i want.
on windows Mobile 2003 devices this works wonderful!
on problem i have now with windows mobile 5 devices:
when installing a question appears where to store files (device or storage card)!
can anybody help me to get rid of this question during automatic cab install??
i want install all cab files to device without any questions!!

pbelcl: apologies for my ignorance, but is this very different to a 2577 folder?
with a 2577 cab we could use this info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=225375#225375
and choose a default install folder I think for WM5.
V

Thanks for your quick answer!
i read the other tread and if i understood it right i have to remove the .dll file from my cabs?
i'll try this and tell you if it worked ....

I think the other way round.
I've never done it before, but you need to make a custom cab and .inf file, and specify the installation location in therere, and then the "choose a location" dialog doesn't come up. I'm not sure, I'll try this at home later.
V

vijay555 said:
...I'll try this at home later.
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Thanks, that would be interesting for me because i cant generate cab files because i hav no developer software for this.
i also have access to a cab file manager (at a customer) where i can edit the cab files and change them as i need it.
if it is possible to generate an "empty" cab file for me that would be nice ....

pbelcl: I never use the cabwizard either, I use cab manager. To make an empty cab, take any normal cab (download one of mine?) and just remove all the files from it. That's what I always do!
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vijay555 said:
.just remove all the files from it. That's what I always do!V
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ok, this is also my way to get an empty cab file
there is one question interesting:
Sometimes there is a "CheckFile.exe" and a "CeSetup.dll" in the cab file.
Do i need them for any work during install this cabfile or can i delete them also?

I remove everything from my cabs, and then use cab manager and drag and drop stuff. So I've never used those files. I will have to read up on how to make a "normal", but I don't think they're necessary if you didn't put them in there!
V

Hi folks,
again my last problem with automatic install on WM5 devices:
when my automatism starts to install the cab files (from where ever) each time there comes a popup windows where to install the cabfile (storage card or device).
for my routines it is not important becaue most of my cab files only set some registry keys and dont install files on the device!
Does anybody know how i can get rid of this window and install the files to device WITHOUT question popup window??

Newbie question: getting CAB files from exe

Hello,
I would like to know how can I extract the .cab files from an exe file that is an application installer (the exe should be run on the PC).
I think that the active sync saves a copy of the cab files, but I am not sure. If using activesync is the only way, it's fine, but I prefer a method that does not install the software first and it does not involve activesync.
Thank you,
Eran

Well it really depends on the application, there is not always one answer that fits all things.
You can try using a program like WinRAR and right click on the PC exe, you may see an option to extract the files, if you do chances are you'll gain access to the cab files. Things like the ROM updates work this way.
Sometimes this method doesn't work. Then you may need to install the program on your PC. You'll need to look on your C drive for the folder the program creates, generally this will be with in the C:\Program Files\ folder or the C:\Program Files\Microsoft Activesync\ folder. This folder can be easy or hard to find.
Another method is to set Pocket File explorer to "Show all files" (you'll need to tap and hold on the white space at the bottom of the page, and select this option from the menu that pops up.) Then go to \My Device\Windows\AppMgr\Install\ and wait for the file to appear here when you first install it. Note that in WM5 you are generally asked if you wish to install the program, DO NOT ANSWER THIS QUESTION instead go to pocket file explorer and look at the \My Device\Windows\AppMgr\Install\ folder your cab should be here, after it is installed it will be deleted from this folder and some times cabs are partly deleted in the install process. (it maybe necessary to install two or more programs at the same time to get a working copy of your program cab file.
DAH

Good Mobile on Dash

I have tried to install the Good Mobile messaging application on the S620 and the installer identifies the phone incorrectly. So the functionality of the Good Mobile messaging is not like it should be. The installer seems to only understand what type of phone it is if it returns the "T-Mobile Dash" words from the ROM. is there a way to modify the ROM Name even temporarily so that the app will install.(crazy idea but thought i would ask)
any help would be greatly appreciated.

There's a text file: \Windows\ModelName.txt, that you can copy out of the handset, edit and drop back in. At the prompt to overwrite, say yes. Should take care of it.
~Cheers~
P.S. Here it is attached.

That's an excellent suggestion... but I how do i get the file deleted? it's read-only and it won't let me change that....
cgg

You just drag it into the window and click ok to overwrite it. It'll do it AND add the appropriate attributes automatically.
~Cheers~
P.S. By window, I mean, open up My Computer, open Mobile Device, and navigate to the Windows folder.

If it doesnt let you overwrite it from your desktop, try doing it on the device with a thirdparty file program, like totalcommander or similar, just put the edited file in the root directory, and copy it and paste it on the device itself.

I had to dl'd the TotalCommander to get the file changed. Thanks for the suggestion!
Still doesn't seem to solve the problem. The information being retrieved from the phone must still be returning something other than T-Mobile Dash

I was able to have it replaced without issue, and straight from the desktop. Weird how you guys had to use an app to do it.
~Cheers~

Did you ever get GOOD to work? I am on WM6 and can't get the OTS installer to work on my device. Do I need to go back to WM5? How do i do that?

i could be wrong but i don't think good officially supports WM6 yet.

Thanks for the tip about the file, now my phone has got it's original name.
Ka.

Yah GOOD does not work on WM6
I had to go back to WM5 for GOOD to work, and now it works great with my companies exchange server. There are some things i don't like, but i can live. Does anyone have any different themes or homepages that are compatible with the GOOD software?

How to override files in windows-folder?

Hello,
I'm trying to replace the sym.0409.txt in windows-folder. But this file is writeprotected, so I can't delete or replace it. when I try to paste the file to windows-dir I get a message "do you realy want to replace the file... blablabla". When I click "yes", windows creates a new file "copy of sym.0409.txt"
can anyone tell me how to replace write protected files in windows-directory?

i belief this discussion has nothing to do with WM6. perhaps it should be moved to a general discussion?

HerrVorragend said:
Hello,
I'm trying to replace the sym.0409.txt in windows-folder. But this file is writeprotected, so I can't delete or replace it. when I try to paste the file to windows-dir I get a message "do you realy want to replace the file... blablabla". When I click "yes", windows creates a new file "copy of sym.0409.txt"
can anyone tell me how to replace write protected files in windows-directory?
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Depends how you are doing it....
Resco file explorer will allow you to "overwrite" file in the windows directory. If you install it you get 30days before you have to register it or remove it.
Hope that helps.

Some files can be overwritten by copying from within your desktop computer using Active Sync or Windows Mobile Device Centre, instead of directly on the device. I think.txt would fit this criteria.
.dll's need something like Resco Explorer installing on your device (on trial) and they will overwrite system files.

the windows-dir is not accessible from desktop-pc... but the resco-file-explorer-solution works fine

HerrVorragend said:
the windows-dir is not accessible from desktop-pc... but the resco-file-explorer-solution works fine
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yes the windows folder is available from the Desktop PC

ok... thats new for me... can you tell me how? when I go to my device in desktop explorer I see a harddrive "/" and under "/" I see all the rootdirectories from the device - except the windows-dir. typing in directly "//Windows" doesn't work too.
perhapgs it's a vista-only phenomenon...

HerrVorragend said:
ok... thats new for me... can you tell me how? when I go to my device in desktop explorer I see a harddrive "/" and under "/" I see all the rootdirectories from the device - except the windows-dir. typing in directly "//Windows" doesn't work too.
perhapgs it's a vista-only phenomenon...
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it works under vista too... i think there is a screen shot on mrvanx's guides....

may be.... but not out of the box... so if you can access your windows-folder under vista, please let the rest of the world know, how youget this working

HerrVorragend said:
may be.... but not out of the box... so if you can access your windows-folder under vista, please let the rest of the world know, how youget this working
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yes you can access it out of the box... but i dont have vista here with me at the moment... but i know you can.

walshieau said:
yes you can access it out of the box... but i dont have vista here with me at the moment... but i know you can.
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ok guy... this is my last post, after this post I will deactivate the notification.
1. I'm not a fool
2. I've installed Vista
3. You can NOT access the device windows-dir out of the box!
If you can't explain how to do it, please stop telling bull****!

walshieau said:
yes you can access it out of the box... but i dont have vista here with me at the moment... but i know you can.
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From WMDC, File Management, Browse files ...
\ Then Windows is listed.
The reason you can't see it is because you haven't unticked Hide Protected Operating System Files in CP-Appearance-Folder Options-Show Hidden Files
Edit: Herr*: Calm down, Wash was right and tried to help you with what he had available at the time.

You can overwrite the file using freeware Pocket Total Commander. I have been able to overwrite said file with this app. Sym.txt allows for entering additional characters (with umlauts....) via hardware keyboard.

Oops - ignore this.

Ok here is how you do it, folder options, view, uncheck "hide protected operating system files (recommended)". Presto, you can see it now, at least in Vista.

Delete File in Windows Mobile 6

Hi, how can I delete a file in \Windows folder? it seems complaining that the file is in ROM, I had tried many way even using other File Explorer or via ActiveSync. None of them work.
How can I delete a file in \Windows folder in my Microsoft Windows Mobile 6?

Maybe Resco Explorer or Total Commander CE will help.

if it's built in the rom, you might be unable to delete that file.
Please be more specific: which file do you wish to delete?
Maybe you'd have to recook the ROM without that file.
Regards,
EquinoXe

Things built into the rom are "READ ONLY MEMORY" therefore cannot be deleted. if the file is only marked as system and readonly though you can change its atributes using total commander. just long click on item to bring up menu and go to properties. there you need to uncheck everything and delete

I had downloaded Total Commander and installed it, the checked file attributes are 'read only' and 'in rom'; so I guess the file shall be consider undeleteable.
Now I had to learn how to recook, any good guide how can I recook the ROM that I have?

similar problem
I downloaded some software and it came up as being faulty software. The file was a zip folder titled : res_ppc-custom.icons
I tried through my windows mobile device center to uninstall it, but it was never actually installed completely in the first place.
I then tried to delete the file a few times. Once directly from my pda, once through the device center and again through my pc windows explorer. All three attempts were unsuccessful.
How can I get rid of this thing?
Thanks in advance

perhaps you may want to check if the file being accessed by other software, easiest way is to soft reset and try to delete it.

That did the trick! Thanks so much

Move files to storage card
OK I want to move some files (not ROM) in Windows and keep getting error. For example Opera.exe is not marked as anything in properties yet I can't seem to delete the file. I did copy it to my storage card without any issue but can't delete the original from Windows directory. Any suggestions since Total Commander won't delete it. Will edit registry to find it on the Storage Card.

Deleting files in Windows folder
mynullvoid said:
Hi, how can I delete a file in \Windows folder? it seems complaining that the file is in ROM, I had tried many way even using other File Explorer or via ActiveSync. None of them work.
How can I delete a file in \Windows folder in my Microsoft Windows Mobile 6?
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I have the same problem - I have colpilot.wm6ppc.cab in my Windows directory. It's 12.6mb, I don't want it, and it's taking up a lot of storage space. My phone is a T-Mobile MDA and it obviously came with CoPilot as an option, but I think it's really unfair that the cab is right there in the Windows dir and I can't get rid of it....
Any help gratefully received....
Cheers,
Ed.

The cab is cooked in as part of the rom; there's nothing you can do about it, except flash a custom rom (this is one of the main reasons people flash custom roms). Be glad it was installed as a cab and not as a full package-at least cabs are compressed are a single file.

Farmer Ted said:
The cab is cooked in as part of the rom; there's nothing you can do about it, except flash a custom rom (this is one of the main reasons people flash custom roms). Be glad it was installed as a cab and not as a full package-at least cabs are compressed are a single file.
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I think the issue is not on the files in ROM.
I have the same problem. I've copied a file under Windows folder and after that I'm unable to delete it.
Strangely I'm able to rename it, which should mean that file is not in use, however deletion is not possible.
I've used TotalCommander, the built-in Explorer and also connected the phone via ActiveSync, but still nothing happens and access seems to be denied.
The exact message is "deletion error".
Any idea?
Thanks.
Cheers...
-nOra-

A very common problem with Windows explorer is reported on all Windows help forums. I've seen people complaining about problem with long path files deletion.
Some common problems with Windows Explorer people talk about:
- Doesn't allow to delete files with long path names
- Pops up error while deleting unwanted files or unnecessary files
- Errors like: Access denied, sharing violation, source in use etc.
I've found a very simple but smart solution for all these above mentioned common problems. A very simple but powerful tool to overcome these problems. Everyone who plays with the files must have this tool. Its compatible with all versions of Microsoft Windows.

johnylog.software said:
A very common problem with Windows explorer is reported on all Windows help forums. I've seen people complaining about problem with long path files deletion.
Some common problems with Windows Explorer people talk about:
- Doesn't allow to delete files with long path names
- Pops up error while deleting unwanted files or unnecessary files
- Errors like: Access denied, sharing violation, source in use etc.
I've found a very simple but smart solution for all these above mentioned common problems. A very simple but powerful tool to overcome these problems. Everyone who plays with the files must have this tool. Its compatible with all versions of Microsoft Windows.
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Could you please tell us the name of this wonderfull tool, and how to have?

djulen said:
Could you please tell us the name of this wonderfull tool, and how to have?
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Based on how he said it, I have to really wonder if he really does have such a tool...

badbwoydes said:
Based on how he said it, I have to really wonder if he really does have such a tool...
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Use Total Commander to modify the contents of the \Windows directory.

Yes, but you won't be able to delete a ROM file anyway.
In the \Windows folder, you commonly encounter three kinds of files :
- Pure ROM files (can't be deleted nor renamed nor moved, nor even copied, but can be overwritten, consuming internal storage memory space in the process to store the new copy, that will become used instead) ;
- Files put there by installation CABs or else (can be freely deleted, renamed or moved, provided they're not currently used by a running process) ;
- Files put on top of previously existing ROM files, wearing the same name (deleting, renaming or moving them will thus make the original ROM file undertneath to reappear with its original contents and attributes).
Once you've understood that, you'll be more aware of what's cooking there.
ROM files can't even be copied, but you can use ROMExtractor to copy them elsewhere, in case you want to study them, or use them in your own ROM (useful to get up-to date versions from another HTC device to cook your own ROM).
Since ROMExtractor is a very minimalistic tool (you have to type in all the files names with their path, same for the target copy, all one by one !) manually extracting hundreds (even thousands) of files is a very tedious taks, I made a MortScript to automate the process in order to extract all those DLLs, EXEs, MUIs, etc. files that can't be directly copied from a phone's ROM.
On the other hand, you absolutely can't delete a ROM file to make room. Overwriting it with a file wearing the same name will jut result in actually adding the new file, thus consuming even more room. The new file will just be used instead of the original one (so you can still update or personalize the ROM).
As a direct consequence, the only way to get rid of unwanted ROM files or permanently replacing them with up-to-date ones is to cook a ROM and flash it to the device to replace the old one.
That's way how operating systems can become better and better, and save space at the same time.
And no, Windows Mobile isn't dead : I'm not quite finished with fixing it until it's perfect, so it's not over yet. LOL