So, I'm a bit new to this, but given that I'm a developer, I figured I'd try to lend a hand and see what happens. I actually have the Verizon version of the Blue Angel (the harrier). I am very interesting in porting WM2005 to the device.
I know there are ROM images floating around for the Blue Angel for 2005, and I assume in the future, we'll see many more of these. So, what my question is, is this:
I know there are three ROM images on these devices, a radio stack, the system, and a protocol stack. My question is if the system stack is interchangeable with any radio stack, or if they use proprietary methods to call accross the radio and system. If so, what detail can people tell me on how you hack together a system stack to talk to a different radio stack?
Thanks
--Andre
http://blog.decav.com/andre/
Hi Andre, I am in the computer field as well (IT networking) and would love to help in any way I can. I just got the Verizon version recently and I think unless we do something we'll be without WM 5.0 for a long time.
Let me know if I can help at anytime..
Thanks
Mark
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Please read this before asking questions!
As of this time, there is no Blue Angel-compatible CE ROM of Windows Mobile 5 to date, in beta or final form, in circulation nor available for examination or experimentation to us.
As of this time, there are no official or unofficial plans or announcements by any manufacturer, distributor, or wireless carrier.
Please do not create new threads or post off-topic in current threads that are in regards to this UNLESS you have witnessed firsthand that one does exist or that you are or can be in possession of a Blue Angel device that has actual Windows Mobile 5 code on it.
As soon as we can get our hands on a test ROM, we will let you know as soon as possible.
Thank you.
Thanks to BeyondtheTech for the idea and text.
Possible work around
Well its a thought
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=22111
If you have comments post to that thread
The Dream is OVER!!! The president of imate said it
Some dutch company interviewed the head of Imate (in English), He said it himself, that the reason was because of memory issues, and the he was afraid that everytime, the phone died or there was a hard reset, we would lose part of the operating system. heres the link to the dutch webite
Here is a link to the Web Site
Here is a Direct Link to the streaming Audio interview
i'm guessing u didn't see the thread about WM5 actually on a BA device did u? well it's true, WM5 CAN be put on a Blue Angel.
by the way, i listened to the podcast, and he was talking about the magician. now if it was the SuperJAM, then i think it would be ok. but devices with 64MB RAM, then you will have the problem. but since the BA has 128MB RAM it's ok.
Dale Coffing on his site mentions something interesting. At the end of his review on the Samsung i730, he posts a response to a reader in the comments section who was asking about WM5 on the Samsung. Here is his reply:
"I have been running Windows Mobile 5 as a development platform on a BlueAngel device (the MDA3) so it kind of spoiling me to not have some of the advanced features on the i730."
So, it seems that not only is WM5 for the BA possible, but it already exists.
Here is the link to his site: http://dalecoffing.typepad.com/my_weblog/2005/06/first_look_sams.html#more
Youre right, i also read this, but we all knew this before. We know that it exists and we were very very close to getting a hand on it, severel times.
Well if Dale was as big of a bible thumper as he claims he is, he would have shared the device with us by now, after all isn't that what Christians supposed to do, share with the needy? But I suspect that his bigger passion is wth MS so I am pretty sure he won't share with us.
I emailed Dale hes a putts and eveyone on the world who has a BA with 5 and doesnt share it. There all putt's
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Well if Dale was as big of a bible thumper as he claims he is, he would have shared the device with us by now, after all isn't that what Christians supposed to do, share with the needy? But I suspect that his bigger passion is wth MS so I am pretty sure he won't share with us.
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If hes such a "bible thumper" as you say that's the very reason he wont give out what doesn't belong to him.
EFJAY--Please help...
I’m having the problem you’ve already solved on the PDA2K with the GPRS re-connection on T-mobile. I ran "The last ones" cab file for changing the ‘flags2’ file to 16. So far so good.
The other issue of course is the need to downgrade my caller id version to 1.20 build 17957. I have the cab file for that: IA_CallerID_1.20_WWE.CAB but when I copy it from my desktop to the device and double tap it I get the same error message: “The file “\windows\iacontacts.dll” is in use or is in ROM. If the file is not in ROM, please close the application using the file.”
So, the second part of the fix is a no go. This device is my goodlink and to be honest I desperately need a work around for this bug in the 1.40 ROM. I would be EXTEMELY grateful if you could stem me through the process of downgrading the caller id .dll file to 1.20 build 17957 and somehow getting around the fact that it’s in ROM.
Thanks very much for your help. I’m afraid I’m supposed to be leaving town tomorrow late afternoon and this IMATE PDA2K was supposed to be my lifeline. Now I’m ready to throw this brick out the window and buy a treo. I’m depressed. L
I would really be grateful for any assistance. Thanks so much.
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I’m having the problem you’ve already solved on the PDA2K with the GPRS re-connection on T-mobile. I ran "The last ones" cab file for changing the ‘flags2’ file to 16. So far so good.
The other issue of course is the need to downgrade my caller id version to 1.20 build 17957. I have the cab file for that: IA_CallerID_1.20_WWE.CAB but when I copy it from my desktop to the device and double tap it I get the same error message: “The file “\windows\iacontacts.dll” is in use or is in ROM. If the file is not in ROM, please close the application using the file.”
So, the second part of the fix is a no go. This device is my goodlink and to be honest I desperately need a work around for this bug in the 1.40 ROM. I would be EXTEMELY grateful if you could stem me through the process of downgrading the caller id .dll file to 1.20 build 17957 and somehow getting around the fact that it’s in ROM.
Thanks very much for your help. I’m afraid I’m supposed to be leaving town tomorrow late afternoon and this IMATE PDA2K was supposed to be my lifeline. Now I’m ready to throw this brick out the window and buy a treo. I’m depressed. L
I would really be grateful for any assistance. Thanks so much.
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im assuming you meant to click new topic rather than reply at the top of the thread!!!, lol
Can we post in here now?
PLEASE!!??!?!?!
Or at least change the sticky to the one that says WM5 is up and running?
Hey Guys,
I am hoping someone has been able to test the BlackBerry Connect on this baby.
What luck have you had? I am not able to cook my ROM due to company unit and I really want to get rid of ROM 1.34.
2.15 has no working BBC so I am stuck with this old ROM.
I beg the swammies of this forum to assist in ANY way please...
Bump! Bump!
184 views an no one has any ideas? Is there someone out there with this official ROM that is willing to give this a go?
i am deeply sorry, willing to herlp you eagerly, but i have no idea about your problem, deeply sorry again.
Suggestion: Try to revise your way of prsenting your problem, may someone get understand it and help you.
it has already being posted bro this is old news if you still cannot find it google htc america 8525 support and you will find the link!
Thanks guys! I saw that the WM6 BBC in some ROMs work and others do not. I know that there have been some great cooks that have been able to get this working. I was hoping that since the 8925 supports it, the new ATT WM6 upgrade for the 8525 would support it as well. I did so searches and saw that the leaked ROM did not support it but, since this release is different, I had high hoped.
Leoiden, You mention this is old news but this was just released 5 days ago. Will it not work then? HTC says it not supported but, they have not been able to tell me if it works.
I mean the 1.34 ROM does not have BBC support but, it works great. Since I am not able to upgrade and go back, I have no way of testing it so, I was hoping someone already went through it.
Thanks in advance.
In some cooked ROMs, BB Connect is available. If you cant find one, then you can cook one into a ROM with one of the fantastic kitchens available. Try doing a search for BB Connect just specifically in the Hermes Mobile 6 forum. Hope I helped a little.
-Nstefanelli-
Yes, it did help. I am not allowed to run cooked ROM's on this device. This is why I was hoping there was a solution to run BBC on the new Official ATT WM6 ROM.
There are lots of threads telling me how to do it but they are all for the HTC ROM, the cooked ROMS and other ROMS. Non of them tell me if and when the ATT WM6 ROM rolled out Nov. 2007 will take a BBC load and work.
I know it is unsupported. I am just hoping someone out there has either tried and failed or tried and succeeded.
There is so much information out there. Weeding through the non relevant stuff to find the info that pertains to your situation is what I am having trouble with.
Hmmm... I am wondering if the BBC software for the Tilt will work on the Hermes. I am hoping that is the same build and therefore may work. Who has tried this?
So im getting a vogue today because my q died on me last night. I started out looking for a 6.1 update because i believe mine comes with wm6 and now i see all this stuff about cooked roms. WOW, never had these kind of choices with the q9c. Anyway can anyone tell me what would be the best rom for a Verizon vogue?
Looking at Stability,GPS,Ability to type without stylus, and 6.1 and/or a 3d gui included as major factors.
I seen the other thread but i cant tell if it says that rom has gps or not, this would be my first htc and my first foray into handheld gps.
Thanks guys
So here's the deal - search this forum and ppcgeeks.com for unlocker first. Then upgrade your radio. Then flash a custom rom. You will need to read all instructions. It's not as easy as plug and go. About 4 steps total. Maybe 15 mins of reading. NSFANs rom is highly recommeneded and I've tried them all. You will also need to run aGPS program also found in these forums. Just search the threads and your phone will be better than any iphone, etc.
Recommend some reading....
Thread closed as redundant and useless.
OK, I am new here and have done a lot of reading. Apparently me and about 3 other guys are the only ones that have USCC, not a lot out there for us. NFSFAN, you have mentioned that you might be able to whip us up something if there were more, that would be great. I do have a number of specific questions and I'd love all the great input that everyone has.
1. 6.5 or Android? (yes I know it is all personal taste)
2. My touch does not have GPS enabled from USCC. If I unlock the phone do I use .41 or 2.31? Yes I want GPS and would find a ROM with it and is that why I would choose one or the other?
3. My Radio is 3.42.30, do I need to upgrade to 3.42.50 for GPS or just to upgrade to 6.5? and where do I find that radio?
4. Am I asking to basic of questions yet?
5. How do I get Adobe Flash Player loaded/upgraded?
6. Is there a good .cab website out there for games/apps?
7. Can I have my cake and eat it too?
Nah j/k but I know my phone is capable of so much more than I am using it for now and want to take advantage of it. I really appreciate all the help and suggestions.
Thanks
HTC Touch Vogue 6900
3.01.573.4
3.42.30
Have you look over at PPC Geek's at all? There is a lot more CDMa info there.
Ok, I kinda thought this was the forum for CDMA, aka my USCC VOGUE phone. I have looked on ppc and am going to repost this question there. I saw the wealth of knowledge here and thought I could get some help....
spittinfly said:
Ok, I kinda thought this was the forum for CDMA, aka my USCC VOGUE phone. I have looked on ppc and am going to repost this question there. I saw the wealth of knowledge here and thought I could get some help....
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This particular forum is for the CDMA Vogue but this site is geared more toward GSM devices. There doesn't seem to be a big US Cellular following on here.
gps on uscc
i have my gps working. cokeman 2.31 unlocker and a omj.3.09.01custom rom. works great
gps on uscc
i have my gps working. cokeman 2.31 unlocker and a omj.3.09.01custom rom. works great
Well seeing as no one actually answered your post ... here goes
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1. 6.5 or Android? (yes I know it is all personal taste)
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Yes it is a personal choice, nice thing about Android is that it is a Linux shell - rebooting the phone brings you back to WinMO so really it can be best of both worlds just be prepared for some work in using Android and remembering steps before starting it like, Starting IE/Opera before starting Android to make sure you have Internet within Android (at least when I was using it a few months back)
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2. My touch does not have GPS enabled from USCC. If I unlock the phone do I use .41 or 2.31? Yes I want GPS and would find a ROM with it and is that why I would choose one or the other?
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You would use 2.31 unlocker and from there flash to a custom ROM - try a Generic ROM either 6.1 or WinMO6.5 might be able to utilize GPS if your connecting via generic or seek out some other USCC users in threads, I know some are using 6.5 currently and able to work fairly well
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3. My Radio is 3.42.30, do I need to upgrade to 3.42.50 for GPS or just to upgrade to 6.5? and where do I find that radio?
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No, 3.42.30 is fine, you wont see a difference with 3.42.50 worth it plus it can cause some issues more than positives so stay to the basics
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4. Am I asking to basic of questions yet?
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No, can you be more simplistic in them LOL j/k
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5. How do I get Adobe Flash Player loaded/upgraded?
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Depends on the ROM used as well as the Browser (IE or Opera) there is some reports of IE Mobile 8 or something like that working but flaky
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6. Is there a good .cab website out there for games/apps?
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Search the forums both here at VDA as well as PPCGeeks you will see links to personal cab repositories that will contain some for ya
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7. Can I have my cake and eat it too?
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Of course you can, but the actual saying is "can I eat my cake and have it too" in reference to the days of Marie Antoinette and the famous line of "let them eat cake" the idea is to be able to eat your cake AND have it, which of course would be impossible as would the situation a person in reference to the saying would be wanting as well
Hope that helps
Detroit Doug
Thanks Doug I had almost given up hope on this thread. I have been on PPC Geeks and am just about to take the plunge. Thanks for all the advice and I see the logic in the actual "eat / have it" order, very interesting and educational. Thanks again and I will try to update after I upgrade.
spittinfly, in your reading have you found the settings you need with QPST to make your GPS work with USCellular? Also, the instructions that get you into the diagnostic mode with other carriers do not work with USCellular. I had to do a lot of reading myself, and piece together information from several different threads to make it work. With the same radio you have I can lock in from 6 to 11 satellites. If you have found all this information I won't bother typing it all in, but if you need it let me know.
Personally, I've tried a couple of different ROMs, but I'm currently just running the USCellular WM6.1 with SPB Mobile Shell 2.1.5, while I'm anxiously awaiting Shell 3.
Well I am not familiar w/ SPB but I did go on ppcgeeks and searching for "uscc 6900" found what appears to be a good option for me. Would someone mind checking it out?
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=53675&highlight=uscc+6900.
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Well I am not familiar w/ SPB but I did go on ppcgeeks and searching for "uscc 6900" found what appears to be a good option for me. Would someone mind checking it out?
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=53675&highlight=uscc+6900.
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SPB is a set of applications for use ON your phone (SPB Backup, SPB Keyboard, ETC) SPB is the company name followed by what the app is
As far as the thread, Im hoping and assuming you are referring to NFSFAN 6.5 V6R2 Generic Carrier ROM ... I only ask as I am not going to read through 8 pages of replies to find what your referring to
If it is regarding NFSFAN and the ROM he has to offer, then yes I would suggest trying it, its the ROM I use on my HTC Vogue (Touch) and its been stable, fast and reliable
Detroit Doug
Is there a way to "turn on" the GPS (unlocker first, I understand this) WITHOUT changing the ROM?
I very much enjoy my current setup with ONE exception: no GPS.
I've read a little about QPST and have tried a version of it (its been quite a while) but it doesn't seem to recognize my 6900...
so... basically... 2 questions: 1. can I turn on GPS using only a settings change in QPST, and if so, 2. what version of QPST do I need to do so?
FYI, USCC 6900 6.1 Radio 3.42.30 ROM 3.01.573.4
Thanks in advance
At this point in time, I dont believe any of the chefs building 6.5 roms for the TP2, have built in support for playing drm tracks in programs like Rhapsody To Go, or Napster. Please correct me if I am wrong, but the only 6.5 roms which have this capability are the official builds (Sprint and Verizon for sure). I know there are tools for stripping drm protection from tracks, that is not the solution I am looking for. There is a Bounty thread about this issue over at PPCGeeks.com. Who has the answer?
Please don't take this the wrong way, but I really think question marks would have been considerably more appropriate for your thread title than exclamation points. The way you posted it appears to be an answer, not a question.
Thanks, I fixed it.
Anybody got anything at all?