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I am using WM6 Black Edition 2.0 ROM and have been since the 12th of April. I don't know what the cause is since I have not changed any settings or added programs since the initial setup on the 12th.
Basically, sometimes when I hit the power button to turn the phone on, nothing happens. In fact, the phone doesn't even ring in this situation, thus I miss all calls and messages. The ONLY way I have found to fix this is to soft reset the device. It happens about one or two times per day now but did not happen at all for the first few weeks with this ROM.
I searched under "power on", "turn on", "power issue", and one or two other terms but didn't find much of anything related.
This has happened to me on occasion with various ROMs. I can only say that I have not experienced it with Dutty's v2, while running the same programs that I have always run. I install Egress, SBSH Pocket Weather, SBSH iLauncher, SBSH Pocket Breeze, MemMaid, AEButton Plus, numerous games, PIE Plus, and a few others that I can't remember off hand. The only fix is to find a ROM that allows you to run your platform without the need to soft reset. I searched for answers to this many times. It is often blamed on some application that I then removed only to suffer the same fate later in abscencia. Good luck with it but I think the fix will be hard to find.
@pinhead
aadadams is correct. Your screen is probably locking due to an APP running. I use to have this problem with select today plugins. Also some programs which where stored on the memory card. You should try to isolate all your software to check which one is causing the problems.
Do you have your email to automatically check? If so is the account IMAP?
Hi,
I'm new here, and have just upgraded my girlfriends MDA Vario II to Schap's 3.54 ROM, and everything appears to be working fine, apart from text messaging - which seems a bit strange. I was wondering if this is normal behaviour in WM6, and if not what might I be doing wrong?
I used PIM backup to backup the text messages she had before reflashing, and when I restore - the messages don't appear back in the SMS/MMS inbox. Also, if I send a text message to her, the message goes from the inbox when you do a soft reset on the phone (push the reset button on the bottom). Emails that are in the inbox disappear too.
Is there a setting to stop this, or have I cocked something up to cause this?
Thanks in advance! I'd never have realised you could do so much with these phones without this place...
Regards,
Brian.
I have the same over here. Now I copy my important SMS to my SIM card. Then I don't have this problem!
It's a workaround and is OK for me.......
If you close your messages program completely, instead of minimising it, your messages will be saved after a soft reset.
We've tried that, and they still seem to get deleted.
If you turn the phone off (press and hold the small power key on the side), then the messages are of course saved, and it seems as though they are then saved when you soft reset, but if you soft reset without doing this they get deleted..
By the sounds of this, it's a bit of a known bug then?
Brian.
reset button should only be used for two situations: hard reset or when the device hangs. Any other situation it's best to use the power button.
how fix this bug???
Its not a bug. When you use the power button (also a SR) the device is able to save settings, etc (including sms) before shutting down. Like pressing "shut down" on a PC.
The bottom button SR is an instant kill, you might say. Should only be used, really, if the phone freezes. Its like holding down the power button on your PC if it freezes. Therefore it will not save settings.
Just fyi, this hold true with regedits as well.
bgunn said:
Hi,
I'm new here, and have just upgraded my girlfriends MDA Vario II to Schap's 3.54 ROM, and everything appears to be working fine, apart from text messaging - which seems a bit strange. I was wondering if this is normal behaviour in WM6, and if not what might I be doing wrong?
I used PIM backup to backup the text messages she had before reflashing, and when I restore - the messages don't appear back in the SMS/MMS inbox. Also, if I send a text message to her, the message goes from the inbox when you do a soft reset on the phone (push the reset button on the bottom). Emails that are in the inbox disappear too.
Is there a setting to stop this, or have I cocked something up to cause this?
Thanks in advance! I'd never have realised you could do so much with these phones without this place...
Regards,
Brian.
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Sometimes PIM backup does not restore all the messages, you might have to restore again to make it work right...
I am not sure about disappearing...although, when the msg is unread and i happened to soft reset my phone, messages have disappeared before...i dont know any fix for that one..
bgunn said:
Hi,
I'm new here, and have just upgraded my girlfriends MDA Vario II to Schap's 3.54 ROM, and everything appears to be working fine, apart from text messaging - which seems a bit strange. I was wondering if this is normal behaviour in WM6, and if not what might I be doing wrong?
I used PIM backup to backup the text messages she had before reflashing, and when I restore - the messages don't appear back in the SMS/MMS inbox. Also, if I send a text message to her, the message goes from the inbox when you do a soft reset on the phone (push the reset button on the bottom). Emails that are in the inbox disappear too.
Is there a setting to stop this, or have I cocked something up to cause this?
Thanks in advance! I'd never have realised you could do so much with these phones without this place...
Regards,
Brian.
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Hey Brian. These guys are right. It's not a bug or issue at all. The phone just needs time to put stuff into memory that survives the soft reset. Using the power button to turn off and on should solve this.
use another rom
hi brian,
i had the same issue with some of the roms of schaps. the first two roms i used from schaps where working great with the messages. and they didn't get lost. with newer roms the problem occured like you described it. i also did some research, but it was a problem of the rom. you can wait really long (hours) before the sms is really saved.
so one of the first checks i run after installing a new rom is when the message itself is saved or do i loose messages after soft reset. my current rom "FuN_KeY_s_ROM_WWE_1.5.2" does not have this issue.
my suggestions: try another rom, maybe a newer from schaps!
bgunn said:
We've tried that, and they still seem to get deleted.
If you turn the phone off (press and hold the small power key on the side), then the messages are of course saved, and it seems as though they are then saved when you soft reset, but if you soft reset without doing this they get deleted..
By the sounds of this, it's a bit of a known bug then?
Brian.
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Looks to me like you did not close the MESSAGING application properly! Only tabbing on the 'X' hides the application. Check in your settings if X BUTTON CLOSE FEATURE is enabled!
I encountered this behaviour of loosing messages, when I stored the
cemail.vol on my SDcard. Since I moved cemail.vol to standard location
(main memory, root) didn't have this problem once.
Just my 2 cents.
Olioaglio
Just a guess here but how long were you waiting after recieveing the texts / emails etc before you did a Soft reset?
i find using the POWER BUTTON solves this problem .. not the reset button, seems to work for me hope that helps.
Its not JUST WM6, it happens on WM5 too and its to do with the message being stored in RAM rather than Memory (i beleive)
Need some advice. My program menu on my xda keeps whiting out.
On an initial start (or after editing the program list) the program list (or start menu) displays fine.
On the 2nd click some icons start doubling up at the bottom and fill the screen.
The on the 3rd click it goes off the bottom of the screen and goes completely white!
What gives? I've editing the number of items, looking in the registry at start menu opetions, deleting programs, but nothing solves it.
Performance etc not hampered but its really annoying. It MIGHT have started after installing a c++ cube program launcher (not sure).
if anyone has ideas to fix it please let me know.
TIA Sean
Hey I just had that exact same issue earlier. I was editing my \Windows\start Menu\Programs folder and making some adjustments when i noticed it happening. I kinda narrowed it down to being something to do with HButton. I was fiddling with the Hbutton display options just after modifying the programs folder. After more fiddling with the HButton display (changing colour and position) and a soft reset, my Start menu started working fine again and I havent had any problems with it again so far.
Probably nothing at all to do with it but thats what seems to have fixed mine as i didnt touch anything else but HButton and it is now resolved.
hope this helps in some way
[EDIT] completely ignore what I just put above, its just happeed again. The only thing I have done this time is Activesync and install a game. Kinda thinking it has something to do with Activesync now.......
lol oh well i guess i'll have to put up with it for now then. half a mind to send it back to O2 but its a software bug, I'll get the problem on the next phone as well.
Try to see in Memory the program values.
In my experience when tou have few program memory, start and today redrow is very difficult.
It happened me some times ago when i tryed a rom with problems of memory allocation.
You can try another rom (today you have many chose )
bigix1 said:
You can try another rom (today you have many chose )
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Well considering my phone is one a month old I dont think I'll be flashing the rom JUST yet.
And update: for some reason the start menu is back to normal behavior! Absolutely no idea why. Just when i was getting used to it as well.
Hi all,
First I have to say that I'm over the moon with my new TP2!!
I absolutely love it
Today I started customizing it, and I've got one problem.
No matter what task bar I'm installing, after soft reset TF3D won't start.
It just shows HTC, and nothing happens.
At this moment I have the stock Dutch rom that ships with the TP2.
I installed sdkcerts.
Anyone experiencing the same thing??
H.
sorry wrong thread
TF3D
Hi there,
I've had the same issue with my UK spec, a reboot often cures it but it is a bit lame when the software wont even start up.
So far this has only happened to me about 3 times but I have been playing with it immensly and have rebooted it about 20 times already whilst cocking up some Shat Nav software.
Still loving it in general though ;-)
I'm having the same problem, rebooting doesn't solve anything.
A hard reset does, but than I have to reinstall everyting.
Manually starting manila.exe is an option, unfortunately than the time isn't updated.
Anybody has a sollution for this?
My solution was:
1. Go to: Start > Settings > first tab and click on Today > Go to Items Tab.
2. Uncheck TouchFLO 3d and click OK.
3. Do step 1 and 2 agian but then Check TouchFLO 3D.
4. Soft reset.
Done
tried that but it didn't work for me.
Just removed TomTom 7 & SPB Backup and now it seems to start up fine....
That's a bit of a shame, because TomTom and backup are very helpfull apps...
ive had similar issues but only when trying to customise manila theme. kept saying launching touchflo but nothing happens and then reverts to saying tap here to launch manila. if any of the programs you are adding or any of the customisations you are making involve messing with manila then you will have issues! once hard spl is out then all these things wont be an issue any more.
same problem here, don't try to change startmenu things (standaard startmenu/small startmenu, extra rows etc).
If I enable the extra program tab the buttons won't work most of the time.
The stability of the TP2 is not so good yet, hope that there will be a fix or update for it or a very good custom rom from a good chef.
me 2
I have experienced it twice. I got TF running again by unchecking TF3d in the items screen of the today settings, shutting the TP2 down by pressing the on/of switch some seconds, then restarting ,rechecking TF3D and shutting down once more. This has the same effect as a soft reset, only the system is disconnected longer. So perhaps taking the battery out works as well.
I think this problem is there because TF3D is so much integrated in WM 6.1. So the chance of apps interfering with it is pretty big. I hope with WM 6.5, they remove the big menus's (since they are there already in WM 6.5) and other stuff. Just to get more memmory back, and to make TF3D more compatible with other apps. (still waiting for my TP2)
Error no longer happens
Hi Guys,
I found out that mine was being affected by an old copy of IGO 8 that I was trying to install, since I've upgraded to the new version the TF3D issue has completely vanished.
I noticed that when the TF3D failed it was after a period of low memory or high CPU useage, perhaps using some software that isnt compatible with the TP2 is causing TF3D to screw up.
it's just a theory at the mo... can anyone else share their experiences?
Guys,
this is the third thread about this subject. I have the same problem. HTC is not aware about this problem and encourages those who HAVE these issues to call them. Calling is free...
please do so in order to get rid if this massive bug!
I have been doing some investigation of my own on this one.
I have SPB Backup installed which reboots my phone every night and found that TF3D would not start. Even after a few reboots it would not start. Removed it tried again still an issue.
Hard reset and still was getting some issues.
After alot of rebooting etc I found that if you have a pin enabled on your SIM card TF3D has issues on startup.
No PIN and all is fine.
With that in mind I have just left the phone lock on for now until a fix is found for the bug by HTC
hi, please contact HTC with your findings. if they dont know, they cant fix. calling is free.
thought i disabled my PIN and the problem still persists. although i had a "loading..." once. but it didnt load...
I have contacted HTC about this. I am awaiting a reply from them about the issue.
I had the same problem when installing the .cab to remove the bottom curtain. Soft resets, unchecking and checking TouchFlo3D didn't work. I then reinstalled the .cab and the TouchFlo3D also came back.
Perhaps that will work for you too? Try reinstalling the last program after the problems has occured?
I have the same problem, and i did notice that after uninstalling an application it usually works again. The strange this is that it looks like it is not a specific application that I need to uninstall. It could be a cab for a different clock or tab icons or an g-sensor app, or probably any other app.
Strange .....
Hmz, I soft resetted my TP2 and found out that the TF3D again didn't start. Had to re-install the "Bottom Curtain Remover.cab", soft reset and then it started again.
Looks like ahlung has a point in saying that it doesn't look like it's a specific application that needs to be uninstalled / reinstalled.
It can also be affected by file read errors, including files on the SD Card, if you have corrupt files on the SD Card, this can cause TF to not launch and even lock the device.
Cheers,
Beasty
Same problem here!
I also contacted HTC and told them the issue. They suggested me to do a hard reset! If I couldn't think to do it by myself!
I have a weird issue with my TP2.
When i reset it... it boots up and i can see the HTC logo but tf3d won't start.. i went into settings unchecked tf3d and reticked it.. no difference!
How is the executable called? anyone elese experiencing this issue?
Known problem.
The best workaround I found till now:
1. Switch on Flightmode. (use the red phone button press for more than 3 seconds)
2 Reset/Restart
3. Switch off flightmode. The PIN screen comes up automatically.
Works in 100% of the cases.
Huib
You can run the manila.exe found in the Windows folder but I've found that when doing this, the clock on the home tab doesn't refresh/change and the notification balloons don't come up (the little round icon on the sms tab when you have unread sms's for example)
the workaround worked like a blast. Thanks..
I could not find that thread describing it.. i wonder why HTC did not release any hotfix for this.
How is the manila.exe started???
Hi!
I have the same issue, Touchflo3d not starting after boot on my swedish Touch Pro2.
If i try to manually start manila.exe i also get the clock freeze on the start screen and no mail/message notifications.
I've tried two hard resets, and adding programs and settings one at a time just to try to find the reason for this, but no luck. It feels like it's all random, it all works with apps installed, and suddenly it stops working, no changes made.
I notice that when i manually execute \windows\manila.exe the screen goes from the black screen with the HTC logo directly to the start screen of touchflo3d. When everything works the way it should do, there is a difference, a text appears on the black screen under the HTC logo, something like "starting Touchflo3D".
I'm not that good at windows mobile myself, but i hope someone on this forum, that has a phone with touchflo3d, can find the difference between starting the manila.exe manually, not seeing the "starting Touchflo"-test, compared to the automatic start with that text.
I hope that would lead to a solution or fix, i would not mind very much having to start touchflo myself with a click, but i'd like to start it the same way it does when working so the clock and notifications work as it should.
Let's all hope some of the many extremly skilled members here picks up the glove and takes a good look at this!!
Best regards
Cerebral Cortex
Phone screen will disapper?
herpi said:
Known problem.
The best workaround I found till now:
1. Switch on Flightmode. (use the red phone button press for more than 3 seconds)
2 Reset/Restart
3. Switch off flightmode. The PIN screen comes up automatically.
Works in 100% of the cases.
Huib
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Thanx it worked for me!
But now TF3D will come in front when I make a call. So after 5 seconds calling the first screen of TF3D (the clock) will appear. Then I have to press the first button (phone) to get the phone screen again. Verry sad.
I also can not use the program Notes anymore when calling, the program will go to the back. And TF3D will come to the front!
Someone know the answer?
Thanx in advance,
Richard
Hi,
i had the same problem and tried many solutions until i found what was the cause for that problem: S2U2. Once i disabled the S2U2-autostart on boot up, tf3d is always starting the way its supposed to. I simply removed the ilock2-shortcut from windows/autostart and start it manually after tf3d has launched. Not really perfect, but better than everything else for me.
Do you use S2U2?
Regards
MiDiAN
MiDiANx360 said:
Hi,
i had the same problem and tried many solutions until i found what was the cause for that problem: S2U2. Once i disabled the S2U2-autostart on boot up, tf3d is always starting the way its supposed to. I simply removed the ilock2-shortcut from windows/autostart and start it manually after tf3d has launched. Not really perfect, but better than everything else for me.
Do you use S2U2?
Regards
MiDiAN
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I did the same, disabled s2u2, and no more problems. After a while however the hanging came back randomly.
S2u2 is back now. Mothers little helper! I can live with the flightmode on and off solution.
Huib
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Originally Posted by daveke0201
have a problem with s2u2 v2.04 wvga and 3dtf. after installation it wont boot anymore.
this is what i tried.
start stop 3dtf => not starting
stop ilock2, stop start 3dtf => not starting.
does work with the 1.62.
can anyone help me?
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Try to set a longer "Boot-up Delay" (S2U2 Settings->Advanced).
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A_C
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I've set my bootup delay in the advanced menu to 20seconds and my problem is gone.
pieterbotes said:
I've set my bootup delay in the advanced menu to 20seconds and my problem is gone.
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Nope, 20 secs does not do the job in my case.
Tried several combinations and different ways of startup, but no deal.
I already had the problem without S2U2 so I cannot possibly blame them.
I still am stuck at the flightmode trick which gives a 100% success.
Huib
Moisture damage perhaps???
herpi said:
Known problem.
The best workaround I found till now:
1. Switch on Flightmode. (use the red phone button press for more than 3 seconds)
2 Reset/Restart
3. Switch off flightmode. The PIN screen comes up automatically.
Works in 100% of the cases.
Huib
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I have the same issue. The first time this behavior surfaced for me was right after i´d applied Zagg´s inivisible shield.
I must admit that i lacked the patience to be leaving the phone for 12 hours drying up.
I´d put it in a dry, warm & well ventilated place for approximately 4 hours and thought that should suffice.
When the phone started acting up i used up all the non-printable 4 letter words i knew and did a hard reset.
Anyway - the problem has showed up about every third time i do a soft reset.
To me the solution has so far been another soft-reset.
Regards
Have the same problem, it's driving me nuts. Hate reseting the phone - it takes ages to boot up.
Won't spend time trying to fix this, will just not reboot/reset often. Hopefully the WM6.5/TF3D official package sometime in October will cure this.
vasra said:
Have the same problem, it's driving me nuts. Hate reseting the phone - it takes ages to boot up.
Won't spend time trying to fix this, will just not reboot/reset often. Hopefully the WM6.5/TF3D official package sometime in October will cure this.
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I combine the flightmode trick together with the SlidetoShutdown, where I use the restart slider.
Doing it this way makes it more acceptable.
Huib
Hmm... I've had success with the 20 second thing but now that is also not working for me anymore... not sure what changed.
pieterbotes said:
Hmm... I've had success with the 20 second thing but now that is also not working for me anymore... not sure what changed.
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It is quite random.
The flight-on/restart/flight-off always works, at least in my tp2.
Huib
so i've tried checking on/off Today/Item/TF3D, tried Flight Mode, and it still won't work. i'm talking like only 30-50% of the time it does work. and I never had PIN1 enabled!
i'm no programmer but it is conflicting with apps we install because TF3D works perfectly when the phone was fresh or hard-resetted. btw i'm using 6.1 Stock T-mobile