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I am new to this community (this may even be one of my first posts, i cant remeber) but ive read alot of what is going on.
this is no matter what people say a good site....but recently its unbearably slow which is really killing the community sharing help etc, the ftp got wiped out, im sure alot of the members who put worki into that are extremely annoyed, and finally there are so many people on the forum posing the same old 'help i did this' stuff...which leads to the conclusion that the faqs need an update.
well i am unsure of who the admin(s) are but it looks like you guys are struggling or do not have the time to solve these issues on your own.... which i can appreciate.
so i for one would like to offer some help...and im sure the older more experienced members would lend a hand too.
my initial thoughts would be to get some of you veterans to update the faqs try to incorporate the whole upgrading and downgrading as simply as possible... far too many ppl are trying 2005. o and a nice clear sign about the mda3 unlocking.
the other thing i feel is a necessary step is to make the ftp readonly to normal users and have a set of superusers with write access...these would be the people that use it the most or are well respected members...if someone other than them have something worth uploading then they need to send it to a superuser to check and do... its a minor point but it would provide some security without hindering those superusers that need to upload regularly.
finally the slowness.. i dont know whats causing it but theres a solution to every problem...if the server has a low throughput im sure i read somewhere someones company was willing to donate a dedicated server to our cause...wouldnt evev need donations with that.
well theres my 2 pence what do you guys think? i want this community to keep going..the only way thats gonna happen is by putting some effort in!
Tim
I wholeheartedly agree.
In recent months there has been a real decline in the quality of this forum, and though it's not particularly anyone's fault, there is SO much repetition and laziness by so many people who post the same questions AGAIN and AGAIN without taking the time to search first. There's fresh examples of this within the past day!
I don't know how others feel, but as far as I'm concerned there are certain rules that should be followed if a forum is to keep it's usefulness and keep to a structured order. I used to run one many moons ago so I know what I'm talking about. Firstly, people seem to post wherever they want, regardless of content. I can't count the number of times I've seen "help crashed my XDA2 going up to WM2003SE" in General or Development/Hacking. 99 times out of 100 it will be the Country ID error, something I've read about so many times I could now fix in my sleep. I can understand people's panic when this happens as it happened to me as well, but what I did was calm down, get on here and search for Country ID errors. Low and behold, DCS and edSub to the rescue and within half an hour I was back on the road to Upgradeville.
Secondly, there's been a general increase in the rudeness of people posting; from new members and old. Some think that it's OK to post half their question in the Subject, then go "anyone got any ideas?". Then when there's no response within a few hours, the same poster is back saying "no one seen this?" or with some insult about people not helping. Even I've had an odd dig the odd time, so I know how easily it happens.
Thirdly, the WM2005 interest is hacking me off. I can appreciate it if it solves the problems of those using it over 2003SE, but (and I can't believe I'M saying this) just cos it's out there doesn't mean we have to have it - especially considering the risks of such a topic. I'm no legal expert on this but I know MS have been coming down HARD on ANYONE hosting or posting screenshots / divulging information about an alpha product (AFAIK). I wish the moderators would remove this, and then emphasise, as they have done on tekguru, that they will not comment / tolerate any hosting or screenshots etc. I don't want to see this site shut down, and I've posted about it before, only to find a few days later some idiot HAS uploaded the files to the FTP. I bet it hasn't helped the recent slowness, quite aside from its illegality!!
http://www.tekguru.co.uk/phpBB2/index.php?article=5813
I agree Tim, I too would love to lend a hand where needed. I would be happy to help with constructing more up to date FAQs like on tekguru, and I completely agree that FTP needs to be readonly to all new users and most regular members also (prob inc me :shock: ). This site needs to get back on track, as it's still by far the most useful and helpsite resource for XDA/MDA/whatever and I would hate to see it go down the pan.
Ant
glad to see i'm not the only one willing to lend a hand
if we can get a few more people willing to help then it wont take very long at all to get this place going well again
I think Admins have abandoned XDA-Developers site time ago,but in some topics I read that they were busy with the Xanadux Project(Linux port),try to ask more to Peter Poelman e Lumpistefan about admins. 8)
So,I agree partially,there is no return from hold Win2k5,we need to keep it, we are a community,we will not share it in the FTP for security but need to know more about it,reverse it. You can't stop the knowoledge! Also Win2k3SE for XDA2,it is not officially announced,but you can read plenty of posts.
Some minor things to Upgrade,Improve in this site are:
-Create a CHAT in the site: Many users will benefit to this live communication,not only posts.
-NEW Profiles: add XDA3,Magician,etc..options
-Avatars disappeared, admin told it is for couple of weeks,some months ago.
-Improve the Search engine: Did you try to search something? it will return too many post,unrelated.
-Find and fix why XDA-Developers is so slow.
heh you just reminded me...the chat thing
i thought it would be nice to do an irc channel
and thanks for the info i will email peter... if the admins are busy with xanadux thats fine (im quite interested in the project) but we could do with someone to step in and keep this place running (peter?) and to organise a team to do what we all see as the issues.
as to the legality of win mob 2005...ive never cared about legal issues personally...but from the point of view of admin it must be removed off of xda dev...if someone hosts it somewhere and links it in a foum be it on their head... but xda dev cannot host it for their own safety
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as to the legality of win mob 2005...ive never cared about legal issues personally...but from the point of view of admin it must be removed off of xda dev...if someone hosts it somewhere and links it in a foum be it on their head... but xda dev cannot host it for their own safety
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Exactly, MS have shut down sites for simply having posted screenshots, or at least told them in no uncertain terms, to remove them. To find we have uploaded installation files to this site is a big concern to me and MUST be sorted.
Count me in!
Hi all,
I've been scrounging through these forums for a while now and have learnt a lot - cheers to all with the knowledge who are willing to share. I've managed to unlock XDA 1, 2 and 2s (ok, had to pay to sim unlock MDA3 - but found the link here! ;-) ) recently as mentioned we have a painfully slow site, a simple search provides 50 pages of mostly unrelated threads, 10 pages of which are all about the same thing! I'm more than happy to help sort out some proper FAQ pages; I've cocked up on ROM flashing due to country ID too! It's a panicky situation - none of us wants a 200-400 pound paperweight! In short - count me in for hands on help, I'd love to learn more but also help the others out a bit.
Mike
well i sent a pm to peter and no reply as yet (its only been a day so im not giving up yet) but i just read another post of someone tring to get in contact and he seemed to have very little luck... im running out of ideas here i want to help but if the main ppl are not around then we cant really do much... it looks like the admin team have gone completely awol ... im almost tempted to say we should find someon willing to do free hosting (someone mentioned it in one of th forums) and mirror the site...but that defeats the idea of having one nice place... id raher fix than replace....anyone got any ideas?
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try to ask more to Peter Poelman e Lumpistefan about admins. 8)
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I'm far away being an admin or anything else here. :roll: I'm just a normal user as you are...
But I've talked to a few of the xda-deveolpers team at the fair cebit in the middle of march. They have lot of work, so this maybe the point why they aren't so often in the forum. And i think for 99% the community just works well without any of those "admins"...
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-NEW Profiles: add XDA3,Magician,etc..options
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The profiles (XDA and XDA II) are a special patch for the phpBB-Software. Sadly this patch do not allow more than two profiles. This is the case why only those 2 profiles exists and why the forum is splitted in seperate sections (XDA, XDA II, MAgician, Blueangel, ...)
Regards
Stefan
hey thanks for the info lumpistefan
tis a bit of a shame we cant get hold of someone able to solve the slowness and ftp issue!
with regards to the faq's im gonna try and make an introduction to the himalaya cover sim lock flashing and a few other important things in my spare time if anyone feels like working on the other hansets feel free.. my plan is to do it over next couple of weeks and post it for review make sure i cover everything.
Looks like the site is starting to get quicker again.
Well done to who ever fixed this.
Much more enjoyable browsing through the posts.
Keep up the good work.
Amphetamine dust on the cpu did the trick.
Thank you tim_programmer for starting this topic.
I am coming towards the end of a project that's been keeping me busy. Once finished, I would be happy to lend a hand also.
Whilst lumpistefan has a point about admins, I believe they are needed. Human nature dictates that while the cat's away the mice will play. Trouble is, some of the mice (the 1%) are turning into rats
As regards WM2005, although I don't agree in censorship in that we should be able to discuss it, etc., it is obvious that Microsoft are not going to tolerate very much and we (the site) are on very thin ice by allowing hosting of content and links, etc. Again, it is the admins duty to sort this out. We have pushed the envelope with stuff before, but that involved already released products.
Some of us reverse, some of us hack. We can still do that when WM2005 is released officially (in whatever language )
i agree server has got quicker...tis nice
with regards to wm2005 its only the hosting im concerned with everything else like discussing hacking reverse engineering go for it!
Ummm.... (I'm feeling like I might regret this...) it wouldn't be that hard to start an alternative website for these machines. Not that I wish to minimise the huge contribution made by xda-developers.com to the understanding and improving of these HTC devices, but if the admins on this site don't have the time to moderate it and manage it and don't respond to offers of help or support then perhaps we should form an alternative?
I'm a web developer and have worked in the past with the Minerva forum/website package ( www.project-minerva.org ) and it's very very good when you're looking for a website-in-a-box. It wouldn't be so hard to set it up and try to take some of the load off xda-developers.com while acknowledging the work that's been done here so far.
Edit - as for the site getting quicker, well it isn't for me. Just took 5 minutes to submit this post...
I don't often look at this site these days because the speed is so bad. It'll be losing regulars already I'm sure.
wow. this hasn't been posted in in forever. Sorry to revive this but there is some good info here. I want to help get this site back on track as well. I have tons of free time to dedicate as well.
Yep, got to agree. The main problem is lazyness by posters. No one reads http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=4534.
There are so many infringements of 1,2,and 5.
But what can you do ? You can't just ban people, because its normally just done once or twice by somebody when they are desperate for a solution.
The problem here is, as was said higher up, the number of threads on the same subject almost makes the search useless because it is hard to find the one with the definitive answer. I try to help people but when you see a question that has been asked numerous times before you think "why should I bother, I'll have to search to point hime in the correct direction, so why can't he"
What I did suggest was that duplicated posts/repeated topics were moved to a repetition bin, and deleted after a week. But at the moment the amount of work for the mods each day would be huge.
I agree with everythig that has been said in this post, I have been browsing xda-developers for about 3 years now, altho i have only been registered about a year, as my contribution has been very little.
However i feel that my knowledge has increase greatly, mainly due to this site, and i would love to help with FAQ's, Admin, Reviews, and anything else you guys want help with. I dont have a lot of free time, but any that i do have i will gladly donate to xda-developers in the hope that we can make this site what it used to be.
I think it is obvious that something needs to be done, but at the moment we only have suggestions and unless someone steps forward with a solution that is all this post is going to be. (this sounds a bit harsh, sorry).
So here's to keeping the community alive.
Dahquim
kevino said:
Yep, got to agree. The main problem is lazyness by posters. No one reads http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=4534.
What I did suggest was that duplicated posts/repeated topics were moved to a repetition bin, and deleted after a week. But at the moment the amount of work for the mods each day would be huge.
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This would be a massive task, sure, but a site this big could do with more moderators to move and delete duplicate posts. There are a lot of people who have been a member of this site for quite some time who I am sure wouldn't mind chipping in to help if they were asked, I know I would like the chance to give more back to this site after the help, support and knowledge I have gained. How many moderators do we have at the moment? Just my thoughts, I love this forum and would love to help improve it.
domain expires this year!
kevino said:
Yep, got to agree. The main problem is lazyness by posters. No one reads http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=4534.
There are so many infringements of 1,2,and 5.
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Yes but that's your standard problem on all forums. The underlying problem is that the administrators have abandoned us. We need a few full time mods to make everything runs smoother. A LOT needs to be updated.
One of the biggest problems i noticed with the site immediately was it's speed. The one place we can improove the sites speed almost instantly is the search. There is NO search flood control in place. There is also no limit on the minimum size of a search string. So it's capturing at the at, or, it, to, etc. searches. Id needs to have wildcards enabled. and filter out two letter searches. (maybe even three, but with the phone names the filtering might just be a pain)
Also i don't know if anyone realizes but www.xda-developers.com will expire on 12/12 of 2006. I have emailed the person that is registered under the domain name and haven't received a reply yet. If i don't soon I may just go to a third party and reserve the domain when it expires. Although there's also the problem of getting all the infinite information off this guys server which is probably sitting in his basement in the netherlands.
It would be ideal to get another server and mirror this site on it as .net or something. But i don't know if we currently have enough traffic to generate the kind of revenue needed to keep the thing paid for.
And as a side note. Does anyone know how i can download from the ftp? It just disconnects me instantly with flashfxp, firefox, or ie.
[edit] also the search needs to have more options and a "titles only" search would greatly help narrow things down. There needs to be a "README: How to search" sticky detailing boolean searches.
To all participants in these forums:
I want convey a HUGE THANK-YOU to all of the contributers to these forums.
A couple of months ago I decided it was time to replace my IPAQ 4150 for something with a bit more functionality. As I was researching what my next device would be, I stumbled across xda-developers.com and my decision was made. I decided on the i-mate pda2k specifically becuase all of the hard work done by the people here meant that I would no longer have to wait for the vendor to issue upgrades and I could customize my device to MY requirements!
After having read most of the Blue Angel Upgrading threads, and the wiki (about 20 times) I've managed to perform a number of upgrades and cook a half-decent extended rom. (naturally I screwed it up a couple of times, and had a brick for about a week but I managed to recover after having read many of the "help-me" threads)
A special thanks to MDAIIIUser, TheLastOne, HappyGoat and a few others (you know who you are) for contributing so much of their time hacking and converting roms, troubleshooting extended rom issues and also for being so incredibly patient and helpful when answering questions from newbie's like myself.
I look forward to being a contributer to this community and I hope that I can bring 1/10th of the value to the forum that many of you bring every day.
So, once again - Thank-you to all!
.... and you didn't have to ask one question????
Fortunately, the mistakes I made were similar to those made by many before me. Most of the information I needed to repair the brick I had created was available in the threads.
Now I see that i-mate has released the 1.40 rom so I hope all of my effort and frustration wasn't for nothing!
Canuk said:
Now I see that i-mate has released the 1.40 rom so I hope all of my effort and frustration wasn't for nothing!
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Can you point out where, or the link to, the 1.40 rom is???
Thanks,
Tom
I think I saw someone say they were uploading it to the ftp site.
Try here.
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Blueangel/
Please let me know how it works out. I'm curious to see what's in the extended rom.
you know, I am sorry to hijack the thread somewhat, but I need to say thanks also, I did ask one question, but "search" led me to may answers, I have given a few things back to this site, but I do plan to add more, so... Thanks everyone...
You are all very welcome...I do this as a hobby, and appreciate the positive feedback..!
we able to come up with a way to unlock . you'll find one way to sim unlock your phone here, only send your IMEI AND 10 UK POUND. but you'll have to pay for it via paypal.
AND FOR FIRST 3 WILL ONLY 5 UK POUND.
running USPL unlocked my phone for free.
Impressive, for a guy whom just posted 7 posts all around the forum regarding a 'key file', just 10 days agos.
Someone nuke his account, he does not deserve the privilege of posting here!
Give him a chance...
MaskedMarauder said:
Someone nuke his account, he does not deserve the privilege of posting here!
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Before he can cash on his discovery, let him offer a promo - i.e some free codes, say for 3 people, then he can market himself and profit if he wants.
Although, he will be defeating the objective of this forum, which I believe is not necessary profitering from knowledge, but providing something for the benefit of the community, then people willingly give you what they can afford if they find your solution helpful.
At least, that has been the case with all the other's efforts....pof, perjan, tom_codon, et.c to mention but a few.
Free Key File For Imei
OK I AM OFFERING some free KEY FILE FOR IMEI, for FIRST 3 people.
Your Phone Is O2
guerilladev said:
running USPL unlocked my phone for free.
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YOUR PHONE IS UNLOCKED BEFORE USE USPL.
AD10 said:
Before he can cash on his discovery, let him offer a promo - i.e some free codes, say for 3 people, then he can market himself and profit if he wants.
Although, he will be defeating the objective of this forum, which I believe is not necessary profitering from knowledge, but providing something for the benefit of the community, then people willingly give you what they can afford if they find your solution helpful.
At least, that has been the case with all the other's efforts....pof, perjan, tom_codon, et.c to mention but a few.
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Yeah he can make profit of his findings, but why for something we can get it done here for free, I unlocked my artemis for free, right here in this forum. no offence kingback, if every one reads the forum there is lot more anyone can do with patience, if kingback can offer better things he can get donations, if I can use what anyone offers and if it is working I'll be happy to pay for his time. Atleast this is I what think. and sorry if I offended any one.
Cheers
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OK I AM OFFERING some free KEY FILE FOR IMEI, for FIRST 3 people.
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So, i'm ok, let's try.
A+
Rifaa said:
Yeah he can make profit of his findings, but why for something we can get it done here for free,
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Sorry am I missing something? Where is there a free SIM unlock option available in this forum?
The program has been deleted but Pof says it works. Ask someone and they may have downloaded it.
Basically you run the program and it writes a file that you use with a MicroSD card to change the unlock code on your device to one you know the number of. You then put in a different network SIM and put in the unlock code. And it is unlocked. Apparently. All the OP is doing is using the program he downloaded off this forum to create the file you need and then selling it to you. Shame on him!
Ahhh that. I thought it didn't work, but have read to see it may have been understood, although I don't read any posts saying anyone unlocked their Artemis with it.
Odd how come it was there for days, but as soon as it was deciphered it has been removed.
It was removed at the request of the software's author.
Why delete a free tool? That would give the people that have downloaded it more power, and make it easier for them to make money off it..
I don't think Admin really had much choice, if I have read the posts properly it was a copyrighted program and the holders asked for it's removal.
Rifaa said:
Yeah he can make profit of his findings, but why for something we can get it done here for free, I unlocked my artemis for free, right here in this forum. no offence kingback, if every one reads the forum there is lot more anyone can do with patience, if kingback can offer better things he can get donations, if I can use what anyone offers and if it is working I'll be happy to pay for his time. Atleast this is I what think. and sorry if I offended any one.
Cheers
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Rifaa - Where did you ghet yours unlocked for free ? Please provide the information then, so others can benefit. If you read my posting accurately, I am sure you will see I did not say people can't get it SIM unlocked for free.
I merely suggested that he make true his claim i.e by offering some free codes which in turn is ascertained by the beneficiaries and then state his terms...even if that is contrary to the objectives of this kind of forum.
unlocker didn't work...
as for now, nobody reported the tool actually worked! so be aware, the unlocker tool did not work so far. if someone is selling output based on the earlier posted unlocker, be a little bit skeptic before paying!
Maybe, if someone has the software, he/she could upload it to rapidshare?
there shouldn't be any problems with copyright or any other law...
I have it
But I am not going to upload it
SimLockTool_Artemis_Excalibur
could me someone explaine the following step for unloking device?
I have this but the instrucnions is not clear...
Or write me in PM.
Thanks in advance.
Hello All,
I'm willing to dedicate the time and effort to develop applications and maybe create a Free CID Unlocker. I'm in 3rd Year I.T & Business Management, I've completed a course in Microsoft Visual Basic. I'm interested in learning more about Windows Mobile 5/6 to further develop applications based on people's needs. I don't want to promise anything but I'm willing to put in all efforts if someone can guide me in the right way. I'm interested in developing applications, yes i'm a newbie to applications development but not a newbie to smartphone/pocket pc phones. I've owned an I-Mate Jam and currently own the HTC s621/Dash/Excalibur. I'd love to develop applications and most of all find a way to CID Unlock the excalibur. If someone who has experience in this field can help me or guide me to the right guides to pursue applications development for Windows Mobile/Pocket Pc, I'd really appreciate it. 2 Members are ready to donate, they are r0p3 and egosumpaul. i don't mind co-working with a group of people to develop a free CID unlocker and maybe applications. Yes, i know nothing in terms of applications development but everyone at one point don't know anything as well. There's always a start somewhere and I want to start now as I'm also going to be specializing in Telecommunications & Networking.
I have all resources, programs-wise and all windows mobile 6 ROMS. My device is application unlocked with security prompt off. Incase I do need programming software, i can get that as well, so no worries in the department of software, just need the guidance to do this, people start with no knowledge and with a few helping hands, we all can get somewhere. I see many people ask for FREE CID/SIM unlocking solution for the HTC Excalibur.
OFFER: 20 $
TESTING: I'm ready to test
SUPPORT: 2 Members (Egosumpaul & r0p3 - hats off to their determination) as of now, one willing to pay 20 $ and another one willing to pay 40 $ i think. total - 20 + 20 + 40 = 80 $
who's with me? please don't back off, i'd love to see support through this, i have hope - i hope we can get somewhere, if IMEI can do it, so can we - they are people too, sure they might be professionals but at one point they were like us, i don't mean to talk highly of me or anyone nor am i putting them down - i just don't want to pay 38 $ for CID Unlocking, I want to make a FREE CID Unlocking Solution for everyone. guide me in the right track and i'll try my best to do it. if someone's willing to make it and already are experienced, then please do so
Thanks in advance for everyone's support !
Co nfirm my 20...
20 Views & 1 Reply? C'mon I honestly thought i'd see more positivity in this thread. Everyone wants a Free CID/SIM Unlocker but if we don't work together, It's not going to be easy. If someone has any knowledge on this topic, please feel free to post, you don't have to make a donation, just enlighten me atleast. I have hope, even if i can't do it, i'll try and get somewhere - if not me, someone else.
Thanks for the support, egosumpaul - i noticed you linked my thread on gsm-forum as well. i appreciate it.
hmm..i don't think anyone's even interested, i'm gonna wait till tommorow and see - i hope to see some responses.
I agree with you lukybandit.
I made a poll here and am very disappointed about the result.
Seems most of the people are not willing to pay or even help.
Maybe they think "I don't care - somebody will do it - don't bother about it"
They don't see the hard work and time to crawl through Assembler code of IPL/SPL and the risk to completely break the device when patching it the wrong way.
Also see here for background
As for your idea of a CID unlock:
I think the better way would be a patched IPL/SPL that doesn't check for CID/VendorID and .nbh signing because it has more value since you can also flash cooked/modified ROMs.
Like pof did it with his USPL here for the HTC Touch for example (I donated 30$ for his work btw.)
SIM unlock would be another hard way to crack the encryption.
Good luck lukybandit that people wake up and support you!!!
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I agree with you lukybandit.
I made a poll here and am very disappointed about the result.
Seems most of the people are not willing to pay or even help.
Maybe they think "I don't care - somebody will do it - don't bother about it"
They don't see the hard work and time to crawl through Assembler code of IPL/SPL and the risk to completely break the device when patching it the wrong way.
Also see here for background
As for your idea of a CID unlock:
I think the better way would be a patched IPL/SPL that doesn't check for CID/VendorID and .nbh signing because it has more value since you can also flash cooked/modified ROMs.
Like pof did it with his USPL here for the HTC Touch for example (I donated 30$ for his work btw.)
SIM unlock would be another hard way to crack the encryption.
Good luck lukybandit that people wake up and support you!!!
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Thanks for the support r0p3, and yeah... maype pof would like to take the challenge, he did a great job with the Touch.
I'm very interested in the subject of how these bootloaders work and the whole CID lock process, but know almost nothing about it. I'm curious but don't want to brick my device too much, as I already partially bricked it by playing with the registry... took a long time to hard reset it. I'd like to help but don't really know where to begin other than to say that we need complete ROM dumps from a CID locked device and a CID unlocked device... the by comparing them, we can see whats changed.
I'm just quickly replying to build interest and support for this cause - egosumpaul, mixx, r0p3 and me are willing to donate 20 $ for the cause so let's see more interest in this subject. c'mon now, almost everybody have their free SIM & CID unlockers, what about us? let's do something about it. i'm just going to have lunch and come back then post a detailed reply.
So Far, 4 Donors Ready - Let's See Some More - Cmon !
r0p3 said:
I agree with you lukybandit.
I made a poll here and am very disappointed about the result.
Seems most of the people are not willing to pay or even help.
Maybe they think "I don't care - somebody will do it - don't bother about it"
They don't see the hard work and time to crawl through Assembler code of IPL/SPL and the risk to completely break the device when patching it the wrong way.
Also see here for background
As for your idea of a CID unlock:
I think the better way would be a patched IPL/SPL that doesn't check for CID/VendorID and .nbh signing because it has more value since you can also flash cooked/modified ROMs.
Like pof did it with his USPL here for the HTC Touch for example (I donated 30$ for his work btw.)
SIM unlock would be another hard way to crack the encryption.
Good luck lukybandit that people wake up and support you!!!
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Hello r0p3,
i really appreciate your efforts and the interest in the subject. I'm glad you're willing to donate and work for the cause. I've seen your threads and it's sad that people aren't really motivated to donate and help but let's not loose hope. We're 4 but hopefully soon we will have the support we need. For now, let's focus on what we can do to help. I've pm'ed you, check your pm. Thanks for the support once again.
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I'm very interested in the subject of how these bootloaders work and the whole CID lock process, but know almost nothing about it. I'm curious but don't want to brick my device too much, as I already partially bricked it by playing with the registry... took a long time to hard reset it. I'd like to help but don't really know where to begin other than to say that we need complete ROM dumps from a CID locked device and a CID unlocked device... the by comparing them, we can see whats changed.
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hey uccellino, i never thought about that one but a smart thought, I'm willing to dump my ROM - if anyone could guide me in the right way as to how to do it, I'll do it right away then hopefully we can get a member to dump his unlocked ROM. also, i know nothing about the subject too but that's how we learn, we always start somewhere so atleast we're at a better stage - the fact that we're willing to learn, put in the time and efforts - trust me, i don't want to brick my device either but i'll try my best and help. Thanks once again for the support.
UPDATE:
ok, i was playing around with HTC Trinity SIM_CID Unlocker downloadble at this link
http://rapidshare.com/files/20880414/HTC_Trinity_SIM_CID_Unlock_v1.zip
made by pof last night and even though i really didn't get anywhere, i was able to run the Unlocker on my device. It did not SIM or CID Unlock the device but here are the list of errors i got:
Couldn't list locked facilities
Couldn't reset facility01
Couldn't reset facility02
Couldn't reset facility04
Couldn't reset facility08
Couldn't reset facility10
Couldn't reset facility16
Couldn't reset facility32
Couldn't get CID1
Couldn't set SuperCID1
Couldn't get CID2
Couldn't set SuperCID2
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Final Result: Device SIM/Network lock removed and set to SuperCID
now i tried upgrading the rom image to WM6 after i did that and unfortunately i get the [ERROR 294] Invalid Vendor ID.
so it's clear that it did not work but here's the deal
the program did run so we could maybe use the same program layout, dump the rom's of locked and unlocked devices, compare them and maybe get somewhere.
now i'll try and get in touch with pof - the creator of this program for some help since he is an experienced guy and know's what he's doing. so the program runs but does not execute the code because obviously the code is different, we're looking to break in the code so for example:
Couldn't reset facility01
Couldn't reset facility02
Couldn't reset facility04
Couldn't reset facility08
Couldn't reset facility10
Couldn't reset facility16
Couldn't reset facility32
we can see that the program tries to reset facilities by doubling the facility number that is 01 to 02 to 04 etc. now i will have a look at r0p3's thread "SSPL possible for excalibur" and see if i can get some information there. I will upload the HTC Trinity SIM/CID Unlocker for those willing to look into this into more detail. if someone can tell me what exactly i'm looking for, i'm willing to go into the software specifics. i know it's not much but atleast we know the program works on our device, just does not break the code. I will also provide links to the WM6 ROM ImageS and to the ROM Bootloader update.
1) HTC Russian WM6 ROM
- http://rapidshare.com/files/42890131....1_4.1.13..exe
2) T-MOBILE WWE WM6 ROM
- http://rapidshare.com/files/28455965/RUU_Excalibur_TMO_US_1.22.531.4_4.1.13.34_02.79.90_Ship.exe
3) ROM Bootloader update
- ftp://xda:[email protected]
4) OLD ROM IMAGE
ftp://xda:[email protected]_WWE_1.11.405.4_4.1.13.28_02.63.90_Ship.exe
5) Application Unlock (Just Incase)
- ftp://xda:[email protected]
6) IMEI DASH V2 Unlocker
- http://www.imei-check.co.uk/DASHv2Unlock.zip
7) Mobile Registry Editor (Could Prove Handy)
- http://www.breaksoft.com/Download/MR...stryEditor.zip
alright, i've included all links to potential requirements. if there's anything else - please let me know. I'm also copying from the previous thread that is
SSPL possible for Excalibur
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=308564
please refer for background purposes.
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Originally Posted by pof
SSPL has an hermes or trinity IPL embedded, that won't work on excalibur. The hermes SSPL works on breeze because breeze & hermes IPLs are quite the same, but compare them with an excalibur IPL and you'll see what i mean.
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You can probably replace the resource on the exe with an excalibur IPL, or try to contact Des for help with SSPL.
So if I understand right I "only" would have to replace the Hermes IPL-Data with Excalibur IPL-Data in this SSPL and chances are good that it works.
So the SPL generated in RAM can be the same?
- r0p3
Of course, you must also patch it to bypass nbh signature checks... This was the "Holy Grail" achieved first by Des.
- Sleuth255
Yes I have read about this - the SSPL.exe generates a (patched) SPL in RAM so far I understand - and this SPL (generating code) can remain the same, am I right?
- r0p3
You need to patch ipl so it doesn`t hang on boot. we didn`t do it with breeze as it is the same as hermes. In spl you need to patch the cid check and nbh check function. Also, it`s omap, not samsung - the addresses are different
- sp3dev
ok that's the important posts from the thread.
hmm - I will see what I can figure out even though my programming skills are a little bit rusty...so all in all, that's all the information i thought we needed for now, if there's anything else i can add, please notify me. like i said i'm willing to put in the efforts and time involved in this project. let's do something about this as we are a big community and it disappoints me to see so many people not come forward, support or donate for the cause.
sorry about the long post. hope to see a free cid and sim unlock solution, that's all. Good Luck !
p.s: r0p3, can you please upload your ROM dump image? thanks.
Willing To Donate Information
I have a T-Mobile Dash that I've had SIM/CID unlocked, and I'm willing to donate and information you need. I'm a total nub when it comes to WinMo Firmware hacking, and I really don't know much about modern Smartphone designs (got out of PDAs a while back, then they took a quantum leap on me, and it's a whole new vocabulary). I have next to no programming experience, and I'm running Mac OS X, but I'm willing to give you ROM dumps and the like, if you need them.
I'd donate money, but I'm having enough trouble paying for my schooling and books and trying to find a new job. Sorry
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I have a T-Mobile Dash that I've had SIM/CID unlocked, and I'm willing to donate and information you need. I'm a total nub when it comes to WinMo Firmware hacking, and I really don't know much about modern Smartphone designs (got out of PDAs a while back, then they took a quantum leap on me, and it's a whole new vocabulary). I have next to no programming experience, and I'm running Mac OS X, but I'm willing to give you ROM dumps and the like, if you need them.
I'd donate money, but I'm having enough trouble paying for my schooling and books and trying to find a new job. Sorry
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perfect, thanks a lot. i'll try and find someone who can ask you to go through the proper steps required to extract a rom. it's ok - i understand, i'm going through the same but lol i want windows mobile 6 on my phone and at the same time help the community by trying to get the proper support to develop a free sim & cid unlocker. thanks in advance. i can provide a locked rom, no problem - i'm just unaware as to how to extract a rom, i'm going out for a bit but when i come back, i'll do some research and find out how to extract roms.
thanks once again, the support is slow but it's getting there, alright
i'm very disappointed at the response, 401 views and only 12 replies? you've got to be kidding me, this is pathetic ! i'm lost for words, say even if i take 300 views instead of 401 views, that's almost 300 people that's seen this thread and only 12 replies, what kind of support or response is this? you guys want a free CID/SIM but don't want to donate or support, forget donation - even a little bit of help...say ok i'll cut it down to 100 people viewed my thread, out of those 100 people, say only 10 people have knowledge on this subject - still only 12 replies which the majority is me. this is sad, i honestly can't believe the fact that i've barely gotten support for the right cause. i'm still willing to help and do whatever it takes, can people please start supporting this thread so we can get out there and do the dirty work to develop a free unlocking solution, please. thanks in advance
p.s: you don't have to donate, it's not necessary but just some technical support or guidance could really help us. why am i wasting my time, why'd i waste my time and wrote that update with links if noone really is ready to help me and the other members that are willing to do this? honestly, thanks to those who have shown interest in this cause and for your generous offer for donation.
lukybandit said:
... I'm willing to dump my ROM - if anyone could guide me in the right way as to how to do it, I'll do it right away then hopefully we can get a member to dump his unlocked ROM....
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Actually the idea is from pof (thanks ), who wrote this:
Excalibur uses Samsung OneNAND chip, itsme developed a tool to access the non-OS sections of the chip, ie: where the CID area is stored.
The simlock data is stored on the first 0x20000 bytes of the gsmsection.
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For those interested:
OneNAND the chip
bkondisk.zip a tool to read off data -
More info on using this tool: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285003&highlight=bkondisk (thanks itsme )
So can someone who has unlocked their device please dump an image?
I will admit to being a viewer, keenly interested in the success of this tool, but honestly I am a follower. I had a Wizard and hacked the snot out of it, how? Using stuff off this wonderful forum. I didn't develop anything and I followed everything I read step by step because otherwise I have absolutely no idea what I am doing with PDA's, XDA's, Smartphones and all the other stuff. Unfortunitely I am also broke at the moment. That could change and if it does I would be willing to donate as this forum has always provided wonderful wonderful advise for me in more then one type of phone, operating system, etc. I never wrote anything in this thread before because I don't know what I have to offer. I don't have time, money, or knowledge. Guess you could say I am a bottom feeder. Not that I don't try. But I felt guilty about reading this thread without saying anything given your comments about people not supporting but are viewing. This could be a large part of the reason.
Anyway, there is my two cents. Sorry.
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More info on using this tool: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285003&highlight=bkondisk (thanks itsme )
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that's the thread I tried at that time to get a ROM dumped and flash it back.
But with that OS-image I was not able to extract the files out of it.
Got the files at that time only with imgfs-Tools and the "-nosplit" Option
So can someone who has unlocked their device please dump an image?
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Ok - here is the dump of IPL/SPL/GSM I had done with bkondisk - I think those are exactly what we need to explore and patch for a CID/SIM unlock
also have a look in the WIKI here
lukybandit said:
I have all resources, programs-wise and all windows mobile 6 ROMS.
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So what's the beg for donations for? Most of us here work on this stuff and give back to the community because we gain the knowledge that others share with us. Pardon me if I come off all high and mighty but you're really in the wrong forums. XDA developers have been around a VERY long time and it survived by what services are provided for free. Only recently has it been infiltrated by nubes who aren't interested in development and just want a free ROM or a free unlock solution. If people feel like donating to help the cause, give it to XDA Developers to help defray the hosting costs. Especially the additional influx by people just downloading ROMS and utilities. And if you use any of the tools developed by others, shouldn't they receive a substantial part of your donations?
You also realize, that most of the people begging for the free unlocking service are too cheap to pay for what has existed for a long time. I paid my 40 bucks the day my Dash arrived and have been enjoying throwing ROMS on it since. So those of us that already paid, we are not interested. Those who didn't are looking for a FREE solution. Yours isn't free. You want 20 bucks for the dream of a solution. I'm pretty sure you won't be able to come up with it, personally. Prove me wrong, please. But do it for free.
-Mc
Donations for...
McHale said:
So what's the beg for donations for? Most of us here work on this stuff and give back to the community because we gain the knowledge that others share with us. Pardon me if I come off all high and mighty but you're really in the wrong forums. XDA developers have been around a VERY long time and it survived by what services are provided for free. Only recently has it been infiltrated by nubes who aren't interested in development and just want a free ROM or a free unlock solution. If people feel like donating to help the cause, give it to XDA Developers to help defray the hosting costs. Especially the additional influx by people just downloading ROMS and utilities. And if you use any of the tools developed by others, shouldn't they receive a substantial part of your donations?
You also realize, that most of the people begging for the free unlocking service are too cheap to pay for what has existed for a long time. I paid my 40 bucks the day my Dash arrived and have been enjoying throwing ROMS on it since. So those of us that already paid, we are not interested. Those who didn't are looking for a FREE solution. Yours isn't free. You want 20 bucks for the dream of a solution. I'm pretty sure you won't be able to come up with it, personally. Prove me wrong, please. But do it for free.
-Mc
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I´m willing to donate to the guy who makes the effort (since time is a scarce good...), or to the forum, if the developer suggests that. Anyway, I still prefer not to pay to imeicheck -for example- but motivate the guys to free the app. and make it available to everybody.
No sin that, right?
egosumpaul said:
I´m willing to donate to the guy who makes the effort (since time is a scarce good...), or to the forum, if the developer suggests that. Anyway, I still prefer not to pay to imeicheck -for example- but motivate the guys to free the app. and make it available to everybody.
No sin that, right?
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Not that it's a sin, but we see someone come along every once in a while "borrow" the tools that are made available (for free) on this site and use them to come up with a utility or a tool that they try to make money on.
Look at all the programs that take the reg patches we discover and put a front end on it and sell it for 30 bucks? It makes people no longer want to support the community because someone else makes money from it.
So in essence, it slowly destroys the community.
Now, he has a beautiful plan. If everyone on here pays him 20 bucks to help motivate him and he can't fulfill your dream, no harm no foul. Your 20 bucks didn't go for a guarentee.
Or, you could pay IMEI-CHECK 40 bucks and it will be onlocked... GUARENTEED.
I am not associated with IMEI-CHECK in any way. But if they offer a service that nobody else offers, they can charge whatever they want. 40 bucks isn't bad. Besides, they didn't beg anyone for money to figure things out and they didn't use anyone else's tools.
-Mc
Well this post is regarding refurbished htc m8:
yesterday i bought my 2nd m8 from online...seller used it 3-4 months..it was quite new so there was very chance of being refurbished..the written marks on backside revealed its sprint variant..bt inside it was global..as it was quite ok i bought it..now what confused me was is it a global motherboard inside sprint casing or real sprint with modified rom? It was running kitkat 4.4.4 with no update as its common for refurbished..so i went through xda and found out a way..set was with s off and super cid..so couldnt recognise carrier from cid..then i checked mid and it revealed t mobile..so actually it was a tmob motherboard inside sprint casing..luckily tmob is gsm supported..so i changed the mid to global/europe..unlocked bootloader...downloaded stock rom and flashed from external sd with hboot..then i got all official updates from htc and my set is running marshmallow fluently..no network issue..everythinfmg fine nd battery backup increased..thats all..everything is available in xda..i think this post will be helpful for my bangladeshi brothers specially as lots of refurbished htc are sold here...thanx
Your post has many poorly based assumptions, and short on details, so I don't see how this can help anyone much at all. I appreciate the fact you are trying to convey some useful information to others. But the information is your post is missing a number of critical facts, and has some incompletely logic.
MID and CID are easily modified. You can't reliably assume the version (from the factory) by looking at the MID (although it can be a clue, along with looking at other things). Especially, if you know the phone has been modified (and possibly even had the back cover replaced) you need to look at more than the MID. You need to also look at the product ID (which I've never seen modified). The product ID for T-Mob (and a number of other "GSM" variants is m8_ul. Sprint would be m8_whl.
In your case, it looks like you had an incorrect or incomplete path of logic, and just got lucky. Others reading your post may not be so lucky. In fact, the info given in your post can even be dangerous. If someone with a Sprint variant were to flash a GSM RUU or firmware (with modified CID) this can result in a permanent radio brick.
The best way for an inexperienced user seeking to update or "debrand" a used/refurbished M8; is to do fastboot getvar all, and post the results (deleting IMEI and serial number before posting). That way, experienced "helpers" here can examine the device details, and provide the most correct, and safest way to proceed.
Additionally, if your intent is to help others, the best way to do so is to provide specific details as to what exact files you used (file names, links) and what guides or other threads you used (again, with links). Otherwise, its just a bunch of vague statements, which really don't add any value to what is already posted and available on this forum. Plus, you should really take the time to type proper sentences and paragraphs, with correct punctuation, spelling, and capitalization. A post written like a Twitter post just makes it hard to read, and hard to follow. Which pretty much defeats the purpose, doesn't it?
This advice may sounds harsh. But I'm just speaking constructively here. If your intent is to continue contribute to XDA, we welcome that. But the best way for you to contribute, is to have your facts straight, and post in a cohesive, understandable, and readable manner.
Sorry it was my mistake...first of all thaks alot for your valuable advice..i tried the ways in my way with taking lots of risk..i dont want anyone to risk there mobile..i just wanted to share my experience...infact its my first post...sorry for my fault..bt my logic was usually sprint set doesnt support 3g band in my country..as my previous one was sprint m8..in my recent m8 network was ok..so i guessed it may be a gsm set..that encouraged me of taking risk..and i also found a link in xda where from imei carrier branding could be identified..and there i found its mentioning tmobile..bt to avoid risk i changed the mid to global..though it was risky i know..i made this post just to give a clue if anyone ever suffers from updating there refurbished m8..and sorry for my language...due to busy life i thought it will be better to write in short rather not writing it..and thaks alot for your correction..i am really honored..i thought my post may go unnoticed!!
dr.estiack said:
due to busy life i thought it will be better to write in short rather not writing it.
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It doesn't take any more effort of time to type/post properly.
Everyone's life is busy.
Ok..next time i will try to write taking adequate time..thanks alot for your advice.
hi..how are you? hope fine. i m facing a problem with a htc m8..it has no bootloader. i tried many combinations bt doesnt work..is there any way to flash bootloader?never faced this before.thanx
dr.estiack said:
hi..how are you? hope fine. i m facing a problem with a htc m8..it has no bootloader. i tried many combinations bt doesnt work..is there any way to flash bootloader?never faced this before.thanx
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You've posted the same questions to 5 or 6 different threads now. This is against forum rules, as it clutters up the forum, and just confuses those trying to help you. It won't get you an answer any faster. Just stick to one thread.