Hi everybody. Not yet bought such a device as I have first to understand wheter it is possible to install a Japanese windows. I need it to be able to read and write japanese characters and don't find a place where to find a device already equipped with such a software.
Also, does anyone know where an image of a japanese windows might be obtained ?
Thanks in advance to any one who will help.
Do you want to read/write Japanese, or for the entire OS to become Japanese?
If it's the former, you need the fonts containing Kanji, a set of registry entries to default fonts without unicode kanji chars to the Kanji fonts, and an IME that can do Kanji. A kanji dictionary is also useful.
If it's the latter, you need a Japanese ROM, and I doubt these devices have been released in Japan becauase of the different cell phone network protocols there.
More info on Fonts/IME/Dictionary here:
http://dialspace.dial.pipex.com/prod/dialspace/town/pipexdsl/o/aoou76/CEStuff/
So, on using the phone in Japan...
Thanks Andy, nice of you and, excellent and pertaining answer. Let me go straight to my problem. I have to go to Japan for business and hope to use this device as a phone and as an e-mailer machine. You've answered for Kanji Hiragana and so on. I know that Japan uses W-DCMA as a protocol. Does anyone knows if it is possible to place a japanese SIM into it to make it operative there ?
An alternative would be to connect it (via BlueTooth) to a rent japanese phone, just for the e-mail.
Any Japanese reading this forum might pls, help?
Thanks in advance
Japanese on the English OS
i am japanese guy, and have been used Wallby--Himalaya--Blue Angel--Mini,with japanese language(OS is english, but can write/read/encoding to JP)
and also now tring to be localized Magneto WM2005.
i am very famouse guy (i hope) of the Japan/China Localization of English PPC.
To use Jpanese on ENG OS, need Japan font, replacing wince.nls=encoding inbox and IE,also font registry files, and encoding registry.
follows are my web site to show how i am fighting to be localize.(Japanese)
Home page;
http://www.geocities.jp/asukal_trader/
the cab files automatic localaziation i made
http://www.geocities.jp/asukal_trader/Localize/localizecab.htm
Instrudction of localization by manualy
http://www.geocities.jp/asukal_trader/Localize/Howto.htm
Intrudction of japanese input soft free/share
http://www.geocities.jp/asukal_trader/Localize/JP_SIP.htm
The DL link sources for the localization by manualy
http://www.geocities.jp/asukal_trader/NLS.htm
Also my Blog to be shown my PDA life
http://asukal.seesaa.net
I think those links make you happy!
I was in Japan last year for 3 weeks holiday (fantastic!), but my XDAII certainly wasn't able to connect to anything GSM/GPRS like over there. It was still invaluable to have as a PDA because of the Kanji dictionary program.
I hired a J-Phone temporarily while I was out there, but I don't know whether there are Bluetooth enabled ones out there allow the XDA to use the phone as a data modem.
Asukal - interesting website, I must parctice my Japanese more!
andyclap said:
I was in Japan last year for 3 weeks holiday (fantastic!), but my XDAII certainly wasn't able to connect to anything GSM/GPRS like over there. It was still invaluable to have as a PDA because of the Kanji dictionary program.
I hired a J-Phone temporarily while I was out there, but I don't know whether there are Bluetooth enabled ones out there allow the XDA to use the phone as a data modem.
Asukal - interesting website, I must parctice my Japanese more!
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Thanks!
Japan has no GSM, but has a W-CDMA, you can use W-CDMA phone with your country SIM card and W-CDMA/GSM dual Mobile Phone(such like a nokia 7600/6630). we have very few mobile Phone with Bluetooth in japan. so you had better bring your M Phone in japan.
while i am in japan,i use XdaO2 IIs+Nokia 7600 with china GSM SIM. it was not officail roaming (china Moble Co also dont know how to do), but it can be done. also Hong Kong SIM can.
if you wish to hire J-Phone<now they are Vodafon japan>, Nokia6630 and Sonny erricoson are available with Bluetooth. but those phone were sim locked. your own SIM will be rejected and must use J-Phone`s.
i am very await for the MDA-4 with W-CDMA will comming!
Thank you.
Thank you Andy. Thank you Asukal. You guys, have made me understand the matter. Now I understand that I have either to have an MDA IV (as soon as it is available) or have an MDA III plus a phone like a Nokia 6630 for when I am to Japan.
Thanks again, have a nice day.
Welcome to Japan
Mr,spinzolone>>>>
MDA IV, if it come with New OS WM2005, i can`t guarantee to enable Japanese encoding internet browsing and e-mail inbox .
In my test with Beta-WM2005,(also another chinese friend so) still cant do it currentry. but i hope it will be solved soon.
Asukal: One quick question - I'm having problems with my font-linking, notably "\". Do you have any idea what might be wrong?
I'm using XDAII, PPC2003, with the ttc font collections rather than individual files. I've checked your registry files and the linking information seem the same as mine.
Hints for Japan ...
Dear Asukal, so do you think that with a iPAQ MM2003(first or second edition) patched for displaying japanese characters, and a Nokia 6630 I'll be able to send/receive e-mail while in Japan?
And, for a matter of costs, would you suggest to buy a SIM in Japan rather than roaming from Japan to Italy?
Any other hint for a European guy?
Thanks again a lot. Domo arigato
Elio
Mr,andyclap> "\" will show on Jpanese Localized deveise as "Yen" mark.
following is the registry to make localize to JAPAN, i use.
EGEDIT4
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\International]
"ACP"=dword:000003a4
"LCID"=dword:00000411
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\International]
"Default_CodePage"=dword:000003a4
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\GDI\GLYPHCACHE]
"Limit"=dword:00004000
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\MIME\Database\Charset\x-sjis]
"AliasForCharset"="shift-jis"
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Keyboard Layout\Preload\1]
@="e0010411"
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Input Method\Hot Keys\00000030]
"Ime"=dword:e0010411
"KM"=dword:0000c400
"VK"=dword:00000019
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Ime]
"FileName"=""
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts\e0010411]
"Layout Text"="KBD e0010411"
"Ime File"=""
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\GDI]
"FontLinkMethods"=dword:00000001
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\GDI\V1\SYSFNT]
"CS"=dword:00000080
"Wt"=dword:00000190
"Ht"=dword:fffffff4
"Nm"="tahoma"
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Notifications\{A877D663-239C-47a7-9304-0D347F580408}]
"Wave"="lowbatt"
"Duration"=dword:00000000
"Options"=dword:00000000
"Default"="Battery Warning"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\FontLink\SkipTable]
"Tahoma"="005c,00a5,007e,0391-03c9,2026,2116,221a,25a0-25ff"
"Courier New"="005c"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\FontLink\SystemLink]
"Symbol"="\\Windows\\msgothic.ttc,MS PGothic"
"Times New Roman"="\\Windows\\msgothic.ttc,MS PGothic"
"Courier New"="\\Windows\\msgothic.ttc,MS PGothic"
"Arial"="\\Windows\\msgothic.ttc,MS PGothic"
"Tahoma"="\\Windows\\msgothic.ttc,MS PGothic"
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip]
"MenuBarHeight"=dword:00000000
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\GWE\Menu]
"BarLMrg"=dword:00000006
"BarRMrg"=dword:00000006
"BarTMrg"=dword:00000002
"EatDismissEvent"=dword:00000001
"Overlap"=dword:00000060
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\GWE\Menu\BarFnt]
"Wt"=dword:00000190
"Ht"=dword:fffffff4
"Nm"="Tahoma"
"HtInPts"=dword:00000001
"It"=dword:00000000
"CS"=dword:00000000
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\GWE\Menu\PopFnt]
"Wt"=dword:00000190
"Ht"=dword:fffffff4
"Nm"="Tahoma"
"HtInPts"=dword:00000001
"It"=dword:00000000
"CS"=dword:00000000
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\GDI\SYSFNT]
"Nm"="Tahoma"
"HtInPts"=dword:00000001
"It"=dword:00000000
"CS"=dword:00000000
"Ht"=dword:fffffff4
"Wt"=dword:00000190
Simply you can down load "Lets Japan.CAB" 4.5MB from follows, and tap it on the device, "Yes" to all if you asked. MSGothic.ttc and wince.nls, and also regostry will be installed automaticaly.
http://www.asukal.jp/Asukal Lets Japan.cab
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spinzolone said:
Dear Asukal, so do you think that with a iPAQ MM2003(first or second edition) patched for displaying japanese characters, and a Nokia 6630 I'll be able to send/receive e-mail while in Japan?
And, for a matter of costs, would you suggest to buy a SIM in Japan rather than roaming from Japan to Italy?
Any other hint for a European guy?
Thanks again a lot. Domo arigato
Elio
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i e-mailed u last night about Japanese input Atok, also i made cab files of another Japanese SIP "POBOX" which has predictive input system.
Just tap this CAB to install,Reginal setting must be Japanese when you install and use this.(also only can use after Localize to Japan)
down load from here
http://www.asukal.jp/JapanSIP.cab
about SIM in Japan, Japan has no prepaid SIM card. you must make conract for a year! it was cost and troublesome for forginer.(ask some japanese friend to buy his name, US$100 at the first and US$30 per every mounth. One year contract.
So i suggest use your italy SIM.
Thanks a lot Asukal, it was a joy to me to receive your quick reply yesterday evening. I've followed you suggestions and now I have a HP hx2410 - Windows Mobile 2003 se v. 4.21 perfectly "japanized".
Showed it to the Japanese manager who's going to use it and he was very satisfied.
P.S. We were told from a japanese guy that, when we go to Japa we can make contract with DOCOMO or VODAFONE. Particularly with DOCOMO, asking for a contrat FOMA we should receive a SIM card.
You know, it is not that I want to have SIM cards. To me it's enough that my phone NOKIA 6630 works there. But I'm to send a manager there and I'd better instruct him on what to do to make connections in Japan.
If you could confirm that, no matter which contract (with or without SIM card), we can work, this would bring a smile on our faces.
Have a nice day
Elio
HELP!
HELP fellas, I am the other way around! I bought a Chinese O2 XdaIIs and i can't read chinese (but only chinese available here for sale). I thought I can easily change it to english but i guess i won't be here if that's the case. Can anyone help me out? I'm a decent PC guy but never worked with PPCs..HELP!!!!
C4
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c4Lvin said:
HELP fellas, I am the other way around! I bought a Chinese O2 XdaIIs and i can't read chinese (but only chinese available here for sale). I thought I can easily change it to english but i guess i won't be here if that's the case. Can anyone help me out? I'm a decent PC guy but never worked with PPCs..HELP!!!!
C4
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Many Kinds of English ROM were uploaded to XdaO2-Developers.com,
You can download and write engish rom on your chinese rom.
You can srech relative thread about that(for link of DL, or how to write rom)
If i had time, i can find for you but now i am on business travel now, no time to do.
Or you sale it and buy again! because if you re-write rom, no more guarantte by devise vender.
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Asukal said:
spinzolone said:
Dear Asukal, so do you think that with a iPAQ MM2003(first or second edition) patched for displaying japanese characters, and a Nokia 6630 I'll be able to send/receive e-mail while in Japan?
And, for a matter of costs, would you suggest to buy a SIM in Japan rather than roaming from Japan to Italy?
Any other hint for a European guy?
Thanks again a lot. Domo arigato
Elio
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i e-mailed u last night about Japanese input Atok, also i made cab files of another Japanese SIP "POBOX" which has predictive input system.
Just tap this CAB to install,Reginal setting must be Japanese when you install and use this.(also only can use after Localize to Japan)
down load from here
http://www.asukal.jp/JapanSIP.cab
about SIM in Japan, Japan has no prepaid SIM card. you must make conract for a year! it was cost and troublesome for forginer.(ask some japanese friend to buy his name, US$100 at the first and US$30 per every mounth. One year contract.
So i suggest use your italy SIM.
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Asukal-san,
Would you mind send "Atok" to me too? I'm using iPAQ 2210. I want to use japanese in my PDA becoz I'm learning japanese now. I'm looking for a better Japanese SIP. I'd used Atok in my Sony Clie. Its quite good. And Decuma Japnese is the other great Japanese SIP.
Anyway, Thx Asukal-san provied us very useful information about Japanese in PDA.
Shinji
Morning!
I send you a private message.
one of link patch of atok for WM2003 was wrong.
http://www.asukal.jp/Atok_2003_patch.zip is right one.
other japanese localize cab files i made,can downlaod from here
http://www.geocities.jp/asukal_trader/Localize/localizecab.htm
some SIP for CHinese support to Japanese input like follows
http://www.geocities.jp/asukal_trader/Localize/Multi_SIP.htm
Also new SIP soft like a T9 chinese of GSM mobile ,called Plum SIP for simple chinese, now i made Japanese option for that. and they will provie.
this is very nice! and i love it.(but not for Traditional chinese)
but japanese DIC for Plum SIP is not perfect now and we make perfect dictionary for that.
pls see my Blog!!
http://asukal.seesaa.net/article/3893465.html
The japaese set for PlumSIP is from
http://www.new-e.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=225&PN=1
(SATO=my another name)
pls visit my blog any time about PDA/GSM/and china life(japanese only)
http://asukal.seesaa.net
also home page for the PDA about PDA
http://www.geocities.jp/asukal_trader
Asukal said:
Morning!
I send you a private message.
one of link patch of atok for WM2003 was wrong.
http://www.asukal.jp/Atok_2003_patch.zip is right one.
other japanese localize cab files i made,can downlaod from here
http://www.geocities.jp/asukal_trader/Localize/localizecab.htm
some SIP for CHinese support to Japanese input like follows
http://www.geocities.jp/asukal_trader/Localize/Multi_SIP.htm
Also new SIP soft like a T9 chinese of GSM mobile ,called Plum SIP for simple chinese, now i made Japanese option for that. and they will provie.
this is very nice! and i love it.(but not for Traditional chinese)
but japanese DIC for Plum SIP is not perfect now and we make perfect dictionary for that.
pls see my Blog!!
http://asukal.seesaa.net/article/3893465.html
The japaese set for PlumSIP is from
http://www.new-e.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=225&PN=1
(SATO=my another name)
pls visit my blog any time about PDA/GSM/and china life(japanese only)
http://asukal.seesaa.net
also home page for the PDA about PDA
http://www.geocities.jp/asukal_trader
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Asukal-san,
Thx your support!!! You are really nice for me ^o^
I have other problem in localize. I'm using english iPAQ 2210. I need to use traditional chinese and japanese. I found your web site have simplified chinese + japanese localize. Would you kindly make a traditional chinese version??
Arigarou!!
Shinji
Dou itashimasite!
Any way,
if used my osurces to make it, already traditional chinese have been done with Simple chinese and Japanese together.
Mybe you are missing to input soft ware for the Traditinal Chinese,right?
You can yuse Monstar SIP(only SIP) or some other input system.
http://www.hi-pda.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=215892&sid=pzcAoc
you can download Hand writing soft .
You also see for this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=120453#120453
Asukal said:
Dou itashimasite!
Any way,
if used my osurces to make it, already traditional chinese have been done with Simple chinese and Japanese together.
Mybe you are missing to input soft ware for the Traditinal Chinese,right?
You can yuse Monstar SIP(only SIP) or some other input system.
http://www.hi-pda.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=215892&sid=pzcAoc
you can download Hand writing soft .
You also see for this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=120453#120453
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Asukal-san,
Would u mind tell me which file already have Tradition Chinese and Japanese? Is it Asukal e-chinaV3 or Asukal e-chinaV+?? Pls put the direct link let me download it ok? I already installed SIP from Monstart and PenPower. Please advice.
Shinji
The English version sales in Hong Kong this time has multiple language input method. All UI is in English but on the keyboard there is a key for user to switch between Chinese & English input method. The English fonts is standard Tahoma but the Chinese fonts is AR HeiU20 Medium (grey) which is very ugly. I suggest any user change the Chinese Fonts and I found that SC_Song is the best.
Moved Post To General Forum.
Especially with the title i can't directly see if it needs to be in Rom Development?
cychan said:
The English version sales in Hong Kong this time has multiple language input method. All UI is in English but on the keyboard there is a key for user to switch between Chinese & English input method. The English fonts is standard Tahoma but the Chinese fonts is AR HeiU20 Medium (grey) which is very ugly. I suggest any user change the Chinese Fonts and I found that SC_Song is the best.
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I think the default Chinese font is fine.
But if you want some Chinese fonts, contace me, I can send you some since I'm using Chinese Vista plus English MUI.
To change the font, just put the font in "\Windows" and make some changes in "HKLM\Software\Microsoft\FontLink\SystemLink"
jzhyok said:
I think the default Chinese font is fine.
But if you want some Chinese fonts, contace me, I can send you some since I'm using Chinese Vista plus English MUI.
To change the font, just put the font in "\Windows" and make some changes in "HKLM\Software\Microsoft\FontLink\SystemLink"
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Hey, I like how HTC applied new chinese input methods for english systems. But they didn't provide any transcribe method. Any good software suggestions? Will CE-Star conflict with the new input methods? Thanks for any help!
cocoaju said:
Hey, I like how HTC applied new chinese input methods for english systems. But they didn't provide any transcribe method. Any good software suggestions? Will CE-Star conflict with the new input methods? Thanks for any help!
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Did you mean Chinese hand-writing IME ?
Though I rarely use, but I‘ve got some, like 漢王手寫(HangWang Hand-writing), 三星手寫(SAMSUNG), 蒙恬手写(PenPower), etc..
of course when you search for these IMEs, you'd better Google them with Chinese keywords or it will return less results.
BTW: In fact, I'm now using the Chinese font in official Diamond ROM on my Pro2. It's better than the default Chinese font.
jzhyok said:
Did you mean Chinese hand-writing IME ?
Though I rarely use, but I‘ve got some, like 漢王手寫(HangWang Hand-writing), 三星手寫(SAMSUNG), 蒙恬手写(PenPower), etc..
of course when you search for these IMEs, you'd better Google them with Chinese keywords or it will return less results.
BTW: In fact, I'm now using the Chinese font in official Diamond ROM on my Pro2. It's better than the default Chinese font.
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Hey, thanks! Nice to talk to members with the same backgrounds. He he he... Your information is very useful.
What's the difference in the fonts? Is the Diamond one better? any screen dumps?
Did you guys get a CE-Star install CD with your English version TP2?
hi, Singaporean Chinese here. We have the A4 chinese input method installed by default on the Rhodium. Noticed that I cannot input 'PinYin' using the hardware Qwerty keyboard and have to use the touchscreen kb.
How about HKG? Do you have the same software? If yes, is this a software limitation?
Mesquire said:
Did you guys get a CE-Star install CD with your English version TP2?
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Jack_Chen said:
hi, Singaporean Chinese here. We have the A4 chinese input method installed by default on the Rhodium. Noticed that I cannot input 'PinYin' using the hardware Qwerty keyboard and have to use the touchscreen kb.
How about HKG? Do you have the same software? If yes, is this a software limitation?
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Nope, didn't get the CS-Star CD. Because you are able to use the keyboard to input chinese words.
You have 4 options:
1. ZhuYin
2. PinYin
3. CangJie
4.Stroke
I don't know why they didn't provide a transcribe version, so I can just write on the screen. I am no good with the keyboard.
I want to install CE-Star but don't know if it will conflict with current Chinese inputting methods.
cocoaju said:
Nope, didn't get the CS-Star CD. Because you are able to use the keyboard to input chinese words.
.........
I want to install CE-Star but don't know if it will conflict with current Chinese inputting methods.
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Try installing CE-Star v2.8 R3c.
From what I read previously, Diamond2 was bundled with CE-Star despite having Chinese support, but I don't know anyone with one in person to confirm this.
Hi all, I've been digging in xda-developers for some time for a software to input Chinese characters, let it be in SMS, or even composing emails in WWE rom.
So far I learned that Droid can only read but cannot write.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=469199 this link here is either dead or no people know the answer.
I even tried the msjh.cab but I don't know how to input in sms.
So I brought this here, maybe anyone can show me something?
do you want to input Chinese by pinyin or strike? also, do you want to input simplified or complicated Chinese? I have a few software like A4, PlumSIP6_1008 for you which are for Chinese simplied.
finally there's reply
I need pinyin simplified input. But so far I haven't see anything that can input Chinese Characters in eg SMS.
ultimatepichu said:
Hi all, I've been digging in xda-developers for some time for a software to input Chinese characters, let it be in SMS, or even composing emails in WWE rom.
So far I learned that Droid can only read but cannot write.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=469199 this link here is either dead or no people know the answer.
I even tried the msjh.cab but I don't know how to input in sms.
So I brought this here, maybe anyone can show me something?
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Have you tried MaryOne x0.05, there was chinese input support
aliff said:
Have you tried MaryOne x0.05, there was chinese input support
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is it? I tried HelloNasty's rom before. But XannyTech still the best (personal opinion). Anyway, is there any other ways?
Chinese Input
You should try - CE-Star Standard for WM5/WM6
http://www.mobem.com/products/Personal.php
Various versions available, which include Pinyin, Stroke, Handwriting recognition (which I bought, but don't use).
Has worked perfectly on WM6.1 and WM6.5 Xannytech ROM.
Switching between WM6.5 keyboard and the CE-Star keyboard is a little slow, but works well. Also toggle between CE-Star English mode and pinyin mode sometimes a little irritating. Suggest that once Pinyin Mode is working then switch to WM keyboard for English and not use CE-Star for English.
Chinese Input PS
PS When you install CE-Star it will change your language settings to Chinese, so things like GoogleMaps will start to display all menus in Chinese, Just set Language to English in Regional settings, and everything is back to normal.
I have searched for this on the internet but can't find any useful info.
Since one week I'm proud owner of Note 2. It's a fantastic phone. There is just one rather big problem I'm having with this phone.
I have a stock phone and I would like to use handwriting recognition for different languages. I have added and updated English, Dutch and Croatian. It is possible for me to write with S pen when I select English or Dutch. But when I select Croatian, the handwriting option in the menu disappears and I can only choose to use on-screen keyboard or speak-to-text recognition.
By the way. I need to use handwriting recognition for writing: SMS / Whattsapp / E-mail mainly.
I really need Note 2 to be able to write text in any Ex-Yugoslavian language (Bosnian, Croatian, Serbian), preferably Bosnian or Croatian. Does anyone know if a solution exists for this problem?? It would help me very much to use my phone to it's full extent.
One maybe important piece of information. My phone is an international GT-7100 version.
Tried:
- So you just know when I try to write serbo-croatian, with English or Dutch selected, the phone just tries to change the words to English or Dutch. So this is not a workable solution...
Bump!
I would like to know this too... Writing in english is perfect on this phone. But most of my sms i send in Serbian (or serbo-croatian, whatever you like)..
@OP : pozdrav tebra
I have the same issue with Lithuanian language. However I have checked on other phone with exact same software version and settings and it had the functionality. No idea what Im missing - any help appreciated.