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I'm trying to upgrade my IIs from 1.12.62 to iMate's 1.22 ROM, I read carefully thru all the posts here and I *think* I have everything set...
1) Got the xda3nbftool file and written the bat file to modify the ROM...
2) Got the Device Date file from my IIs etc
Am I correct that after the upgrade, I'll loose all original O2 or my carrier's setup from the extended ROM they provided? And bascially, my unit will be turned into a PDA2K right? Is it possible to retain all the O2 files etc while only upgrade the MS and Radio files?
Hey there CL55,
There is much discussion on this forum regarding this issue. I have done this upgrade myself and know it very well.
I used this particular post - http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=14912 and followed the instructions by ohmlogic to complete the upgrade.
If you need any help or get stuck, Private Message me and I'll see what I can do.
PS: BEFORE you run the upgrade install make sure you have run the GetDeviceData.exe on your phone and retreived the file \windows\devicedata.txt (also from your phone)!!! This is very important and contains the data you'll need to import into your setup files in order to get it to work. If you get this wrong you will lock your device and wont be able to use it!!!
Hope this helps - good luck!
Dom
CL55
Yup, you did your homework
Your Phone will look and feel like an I-mate.
Is this a problem, well not realy.
Was not for me and I went form T-mobile in German to I-mate in WWE.
Now there is a whole section on Extened rom, the short is that your provider has added files that they thought were cool. They have put them in a place were you are not meant to see them. However this forum gives your tools that will "unlock" and Unhide" this folder.
If you need this option is up to you and your own understanding.
The fact remains that most of them are unremovebale thus you cant just go over the "remove progams" to get rid of them. So you might end up with software that you can't use or im my case I lost the PDF viewer and zip.
Givem that you have a FTP tool you could have a look at the exteneded roms that are on this server. Internet explore will error on you.
ftp://xda:[email protected]/BlueAngel
Here you can download the ones that look intresting to you and extract the *.Cab files that you like (Like the zip). Copy them over to your device and with explorer click on them to install.
Also you might have had seetings for your Voicemailbox number and your SMS sending number. These are also gone and need to be added again.
There is also a thread about the Splash Screens (what you see when you boot) Here to you can change them if you have the original ones. (I asked were they were hided in that thread but never got an answer.
So for me, I am fine with the I-mate release and the added *cab files that i got out of the other extened roms. All of which can be done without any further tools than what you have mentioned.
Please be aware that for version 1.22 and above the format has changed and that the xda3nbftool.exe may error out on you.
I have tried to start a thread on what has worked for which operator to help people out on this subject.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=15510
Have fun
Thanks for the reply guys Like I mentioned in another topic, I just found out O2 has 1.31 ROM avilable thru their repair center! Will give that a shot first Thanks again!
CL55,
Excellent! Well, let us know how you get on and also it would be cool if you can upload it to the ftp here - ftp://xda:[email protected]/BlueAngel/ - so others can try it out!
Regards,
Dom
I have been reading the forums here to try to get a handle on how to unlock my SX56 in preparation for a visit to India. Device Info :
ROM Version : A.21.02 ENG
ROM date: 10/17/03
Radio Version : A.20.10
Protocol version : 324e4
Carrier : AT&T (the b******s)
I tried the XDAUnlock and got the "error getting unlock code". I see that all instructions without the serial cable thing involve basically installing a new ROM.
I had once before tried to upgrade my SX56, when AT&T came out with its WM2003 upgrade, and while the upgrade went ok (after a few tries), after that upgrade the performance of the phone part of my SX56 became so bad (would NEVER get a signal) that I had to send it back to them. That time, I was still under warranty and they restored it to original (PPC 2002) ROM. That, plus the fact that I hardly saw anything worth the jump in WM2003, means that I am EXTREMELY WARY of doing a ROM upgrade. I want the phone to work! I know most everybody on this forum has had it easy with ROM manipulations, but I would like to avoid it if at all possible.
My questions are (excuse the newbieness):
1) My understanding is that, when they work, XDAUnlock and XDAManipulator work basically as executables. You install them, you run them, they do their thing. The ROM and the radio stack stays the same, except for the unlocked part. Is that correct? If yes, this is definitely what I would like to try, in preference to installing the Special Edition ROM, even if you tell me I can go back to installing my original ROM.
2) XDAManipulator works over the serial cable. Does this mean a cable equivalent to the cable I use for syncing, (SX56 connectors on one side), except that on the other side it connects to serial port, rather than to a USB port? That would mean a cable customized for SX56, which I won't be able to buy in a Radio Shack. I don't have the time to buy and have them shipped, and they're darned expensive anyway. Will a generic USB-to-serial adapter applied to my USB cable work in this case? Given that XDAUnlock isn't working, and given (1), I would like to try XDAManipulator.
3) Reassure me on restoring old ROMs and Radio Stacks (in particular). How difficult is it?
Thanks in advance for all your help.
Sumit.
You can backup your existing rom from the bootloader to sd card. You can then install the special edition rom. Once unlocked, place the sd card in the phone, push reset while holding powerr, you will be asked would you like to procedd with programming rom, push centre of 4 way rocker anyour old rom will be restored. Manipulator runs from the pc desktop, I have no idea if it will work using a usb/serial adaptor. It also only works with certain radio stacks.
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You can backup your existing rom from the bootloader to sd card. You can then install the special edition rom. Once unlocked, place the sd card in the phone, push reset while holding powerr, you will be asked would you like to procedd with programming rom, push centre of 4 way rocker anyour old rom will be restored.
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That means the PPC AND the Radio stack is restored, right?
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Manipulator runs from the pc desktop, I have no idea if it will work using a usb/serial adaptor. It also only works with certain radio stacks.
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Anybody know if A.20.10 is one of them?
I would like to understand the Special Edition ROM better. Does it include the PPC OS as well as the Radio Stack? Or does it leave the Radio Stack untouched, except it allows access to it that was earlier locked away?
If former, aren't Radio Stacks supposed to be carrier specific?
Don't let the waywardness of my doubts keep you from answering my original question.
The special edition rom does not affect the radio stack except to unlock it, you need backup only rom.
OK, I'm thinking about putting in the new rom so that I can utilize the A2DP.
Before doing that, I was wondering if some of you can answer a few questions for me:
1). I know that after loading the new rom, it's like a hard reset where you loose all your data. Can I use backup software like SPB Backup to bring the programs and info that I have back to the Universal with the new rom?
2). Which would be considered the best rom update right now?
I have the Qtek 9000 with Boot 1.0, with it's original rom (1.13.64WWE with 1.03 Radio). I'm thinking of going with the Qtek 13077 176 rom for the A2DP features.
3). Is there anything else that I need to look into besides backing up data and software that I need to be worried about on the Universal?
This will be a first for me. I'm a rom-upgrade virgin. So please be gentle with me.
Thanks.
Love to know all that too.. that said I am running headlong into updating my T-mobile with the UNI_DT_WWE_13077_176_10900_Ship.zip version.
Already updated the bootloader to 1.1
So far things are good..
Charles
Opps.. that wasnt teh right country.. DE
Trying UNI_QTEK_13077_176_10900_WWE.exe
Country error on that one too.. So going with. SInce my MDA Pro was a UK phone.
UNI_ORUK_13090_174_10300_WWE_Ship.exe
The country error thing is actually checking for more than country, or really not country at all, it checks for provider. My TmobNL flashed the TmobUK without problems, but not any of the other providers' roms. You need to get the three appropriate nbf files from the rom update package (either by unpacking with winrar/winzip or by copying them out of the temp directory from under its nose, while it's telling you it won't work), put them into a directory with MaUpgradeUt_NoID.exe (from ftp://xda:[email protected]/BlueAngel/Tools/MaUpgradeUt_noID.zip ), and run that file. The picture won't be a universal, but one of the other HTC phones, but it should still work.
Disclaimer: It seems to work for me, but if you screw up your device, I ain't taking responsibility for it.
Yea.. thanks I figured that out after hitting the right search. I installed the QTEK version and all seems well.. Other than the fact I cant get Tmobile US to unlock the damn thing. Trying to go through T-mobile UK.. but have my doubts.
If I had known of the Unlocking probems I may not have gotten it yet and waited.. But its so damn cool, I am glad I do have it. Just got to figure out how to unlock it.
1). I know that after loading the new rom, it's like a hard reset where you loose all your data. Can I use backup software like SPB Backup to bring the programs and info that I have back to the Universal with the new rom?
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No, you cannot.
2). Which would be considered the best rom update right now?
I have the Qtek 9000 with Boot 1.0, with it's original rom (1.13.64WWE with 1.03 Radio). I'm thinking of going with the Qtek 13077 176 rom for the A2DP features.
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The new ROMs are the same, basically. I love the Qtek one since it's simple with less cabs in the ext_rom.
3). Is there anything else that I need to look into besides backing up data and software that I need to be worried about on the Universal?
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You might end up with your universal totally dead. Do it on your own risk.
Modem man asked
1). I know that after loading the new rom, it's like a hard reset where you loose all your data. Can I use backup software like SPB Backup to bring the programs and info that I have back to the Universal with the new rom?
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qtotter replied
No, you cannot.
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Sprite backup's latest version (5.1 just released) allows you to restore AFTER a ROM upgrade. Visit their web site for the information. I'm gonna give it a try tomorrow
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qtotter replied
No, you cannot.
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Sprite backup's latest version (5.1 just released) allows you to restore AFTER a ROM upgrade. Visit their web site for the information. I'm gonna give it a try tomorrow
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Sounds cool! Looking forward to hearing your finding with the new version.
qt
Thanks for all the responses.
Here's my input:
1). Went ahead and installed the new ROM.
2). Worked great except for a few kinks (not sure if it's the ROM or me)
3). No...SPB Backup will not restore apps into new rom. Had to do everything from scratch. Don't have Sprite Backup. Do tell if you have.
4). Bought the Motorola HT820 and A2DP worked great (except for some scratchy noises when PDA is on belt and I'm standing upright - not unbearable).
5). Luckily I had everything backed up and finally got myself a instruction sheet on how to reinstall all my apps again.
6). Install of ROM went without a hitch...though I held my breath for close to half hour - praying - please don't brick! Be warned....it might.
7). Only thing needed to test is the idea of having 2 Bluetooth Headset devices connect to the Universal on the new ROM and see if they work. Why? One for caller ID and another one for stereo headset. No need to open clamshell to view who's calling (as soon as Jetset get their software to show names and voice dialing working properly).
FYI, the device I had was a QTEK and my install went smoothly. I cannot and will not be responsible for anybody "bricking" their Universal just because mine went smoothly.
Thanks again for everybody who chimed in.
Mel
modem man---where did you get the upgrade ??
where did you get the down load ? what ver#'s is it i have the qtek also
My Qtek is:
Qtek9000
Bootloader: 1.00
Upgraded from 1.13.64WWE with 1.03 Radio ROM to UNI_QTEK_13077_176_10900_WWE ROM.
New ROM has A2DP and AKU2.
For the ROM, follow the following instructions:
1). From the XDA-Developers Forum page, top left corner, select wiki.xda-develoeprs.com
2). Look for HTC Pocket Phones Title and select Universal
3). Scroll down until you see "Detailed Instruction On How To Upgrade with Bootloader method" and select it
4). There you'll see a link to the rom download link (in #1 instruction).
WARNING!
- Your Qtek 9000 may or may not work after the ROM install. You are doing this on your own risk.
- Your data will not be available anymore after the new ROM install (if it works). There are forum discussions that state that Sprite Backup will allow a backup restore even after a ROM update but I haven't tested it yet and will not vouch that it will.
- If you have a heart condition and you have to worry about money, I would advise you to reconsider updating your ROM. Your heart might not be able to handle the stress.
Please read the following forum sites to understand a little more about it:
A warning that needs to be read:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=48309
General instructions on the update - might be a little outdated but still good info:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Universal
Upgrading a HTC Universal (different brands) with a different make ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=42992
A general instruction list for updating a ROM on a Universal:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=45874
A computer crash situation:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=49266
WARNING - I cannot stress enough on the fact that your Universal might be a brick if the install did not go well.
OK.
On the positive side....with A2DP, I love the fact that I can listen to streaming radio via Bluetooth Stereo Headsets.
And the Universal does run a little faster (IMO).
Hey..
I think in the moment there are many guys, out there, included me, that share the same problem: all probably unlocked their Dash's, Mail's or whatever using anykind of unlocking method (me, imei-check).
I am using a German MDA Mail, i needed to unlock it, in order to use it with my phone carrier apparently.
Now, the version of my phone is somewhat 1.18, and I want to update it to the WM6, like many others too. Both ways; SPL 1.11 and trying the update itself onyl lead to the same outcome : Invalid vendor/model id !
Many often say: yea, look in the CID unlock thread...well i did, very often, but there is no real solution to that problem, since basically, my Dash is unlocked, and presumably also CID unlocked since i got that from imei-check, which i think is a pioneer in that sector.
So, after all, what can we do!? Is it possible to still trying update that phone?
Hope we can find a solution, cuz i dun feel i am the only guy who has that problem.
I may have the same problem. Are you trying to unlock on Vista or XP?
I got it unlocked on XP, it worked fine i got to admit, no problems at all, my phone now seems to be unlocked and it works with another phone carrier, apart from T-Mo, which should be an indication FOR the CID unlock...
I dont think it is important to App unlock the Mail as well, cuz imei-check said it would be included...soo, would it be reasonable to ask imei-check, or does somebody else have an opinion about that?
I just upgraded to WM6. Here's what I did.
Unlocked it from imei-check. Ran SPL Upgrader. It gave me a Vendor ID being incorrect error.
Then I ran the WM6 upgrader from HTC. It upgraded and rebooted.
Now my phone is running WM6 and everything is fine.
Ha? you serious, thats very cool...well i tried it again with the spl upgrader, he went to 100%, aborted then with an invalid model error...then ran the upgrade afterwards, still didnt work... what about the version, did u take the German or the English one!?
Aaaargh, i am about to freak out..why doesnt it work, both SPL and the WM6 Upgrade give Invalid model errors, before i at least got a invalid vendor id, but not even that anymore...HELP...did imei-checks unlock didnt really work or what...
Yeah, I am very serious. I am using WM6 right now. I have a Dopod C720w.
Ok, here's what I did.
Unlocked through IMEI-check's software.
After that, I ran the SPL Upgrader. It went to 100% then gave me an Invalid Vendor ID error. I exited from there and then ran the HTC WM6 upgrade rom program. That started and slowly went to 100%. It said it had finished its job, so I removed my phone from the cable.
Then I proceeded to totally freak out because my phone looked like it was stuck at the Windows Mobile loading screen. I waited and after a long time, the rom initialised and ran through its first boot sequence.
Now its working perfectly and everything feels a bit faster.
If you went through the exact same steps, then I am not sure what your problem might be. Sorry. To tell you the truth, I am a completely noob at this who just did random steps and was lucky enough for it to work
P.S. I used the WWE (English) version, as I can't read German. I downloaded it off a rapidshare link posted in the big thread about HTC's rom release.
Well, i might not have much more skill either, but it is still quite worrying, is there maybe a difference between model and vendor id !? i am not quite sure what to try anymore, i remember yesterday, that i had a wrong vendor id as well, but today i just always got invalid model ids...very weird...well i will continue trying..do u remember what ur MDA mail version was before u updated it..sth like...1.18 !? by the way, which SPL upgrader are u using?
I am not using a MDA Mail. It's a Dopod c720w, same hardware, different branding.
This is the SPL Upgrader I used:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/smartphones/Excalibur/RUU_Excalibur_SPL-1.11_UpgradeOnly.exe
Try with that. It should work.
I think my version before upgrading was 1.15 something.
Nah, i think its the same SPL Upgrader (same size...) but i just dont get the idea why it doesnt work, some experienced upgrader here who can explain us the process?!?! I am not sure whether a reset of all settings would do a thing?! geez feel quite helpless in the moment^^
I had the same problem
but the only thing I did when got those problems was leaving my Vista based laptop and try with an XP based, downloaded the activesync, connected my htc, installed the SPL (downgrade) and then the WM6 WWE ROM, oh, I remember, first I installed the german version by mistake, so I had to repeat the process with the SPL before applying the correct ROM again.
When I was unlocking my HTC, I had some problems on the vista system, and I deactivated the antivirus... Could that be related?
Good Luck!!!
You haven't answered as to whether you're using XP or Vista. I ran into the same issues trying to do the SPL and ROM updates via Vista, when I tried it on my XP system -- both worked without errors.
vivid22 said:
Nah, i think its the same SPL Upgrader (same size...) but i just dont get the idea why it doesnt work, some experienced upgrader here who can explain us the process?!?! I am not sure whether a reset of all settings would do a thing?! geez feel quite helpless in the moment^^
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Yeah, after hearing so much about Vista, I used my XP system to update the rom. Worked fine.
i LOVE imei-check, i wrote them an email a moment ago to ask them for support, they replied me after 10 minutes with a full strategy how to encounter the problem, fabulous support i gotta admit, here's what they said:
Hello,
It sounds like you try to make a CROSS-MODEL-ID update (e.g. WiFi chip missing T-Mobile ROM on a WiFi enabled HTC device).
EVERYTHING IS POSSIBLE. You only have to use SPECIAL INSTRUCTIONS in order to make a CROSS-MODEL-ID update:
*If you REALLY do it EXACT step by step like described you will have no problems*
Tools you need:
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- HexWorkshop from http://www.bpsoft.com/downloads/
- the ROM of your choice
- Winzip or Winrar
- a valid UNL file for YOUR phone
Preparation:
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a) install HexWorkshop and Winzip or Winrar on your pc
b) in explorer on pc, RIGHT click on the ROM of your choice and use: "Extract files to folder ..." from conext menu Now it will unpack all the files
c) in the new folder you will have ONE file like "HRUU_signed.NBH" (*.NBH) RIGHT click on the .NBH file and use: "Hex Edit with Hex Workshop" from context menu
d) You'll see on the 5th row EXCA20000 ==> !!! make it EXCA***** (5 stars) and save the file
e) Now RIGHT click on ROMUpdateUtility.exe and use:
"Hex Edit with Hex Workshop" from conext menu Search for word
"BsaD5SeoA" (without quotes, case sensitive)
You'll find it around address 0x3FC6C
==> replace "BsaD5SeoA" with "IMEICHECK" (without quotes) and save the file
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1) take SIM card and SD card OUT of the phone
2) Connect the phone running windows ce to the pc (normal way).
3) Completely Unlock your phone using our unlocker <== REALLY IMPORTANT
4) After phone is unlocked run unlocker (again) BUT when the unlocker ask for UNL file, remove the USB cable from the phone THEN press "Cancel" on the unlocker select file window (unlocker will close on PC). NOTE: The screen on the device will not show something usefull when in this mode. Most probably it is complete WHITE. !!THIS IS NORMAL!! Don't touch phone, let it like it is!
5) After you closed the unlocker, attach usb cable again (phone has still white screen)
6) start (the modified) ROMUpdateUtility.exe
7) when update finished and device started you will get a message:
"Data Crashed, contact service provider" (!NO PANIC!)
==> Simply fix this problem by running the unlocker again and this time select the key file normal way (full unlock process again).
In case you have problems please indicate the step number/letter which is not clear/not working for you.
*If you REALLY do it EXACT step by step like described you will have no problems*
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P.S., would be a good idea to post this as a sticky, since it really explains how to update a original HTC rom on such wifi lacking Excalibur versions like the MDA Mail,
greets and good night
Did you try to email imei-check?
I know that exactly the same problem occurred when the T-Mo WM6 came out.
Imei-check had sent back their customers who were not able to upgrade a procedure how to modify their unlocker with a hex editor to change the model ID.
BTW: Model ID: there are two different models - EXCA100 and EXCA200 - take a look under your battery - german XDA Cosmo for example is EXCA200 (there the SPL seems not to work)
The other thing is the vendor ID. This seems to be solved by pof's Upgrade SPL 1.11
So simply try to write to imei-check and say that your unlock does not work - in the past they were very customer friendly - hope this didn't change meanwhile
EDIT: OK - vivid was a little bit faster - next time I should refresh the thread before I answer...
FYI !!
saw some post where people was being impatient during the upgrading process and completely abort the process ...etc
you are supposed to be at the logo screen for a period of time ... it doesn't meant it's hanged ... be patience !
just a note
Patience is the key...
Hm, OK, I did it... I bought the fracking UNL, took me one hour to figure how to get rid of the protection (security + antivirus) in my laptop that did not allow me to run the unlocking app. Finally, I got it.
First time I flash the ROM it did not work. I tried using first the SPL, and it worked nicely. After that, I could flash the ROM. Be patient, it takes some minutes to reboot, and it looks like is freezed, but not... wait!
Can´t see much difference from WM5, but I noticed a best performance in wifi connection. Now I´m fracking installing all the goodies I had before... bluetooth keyboard is not working... I will work it out a little bit.
Just in case, if someone wants the UNL for research... PM me.
I am glad it all worked out for you. Didn't know that the MDA Mail came without Wifi.
Wow, I must say, I am glad I used Imei-Check's service as well. That was an extremely helpful reply they sent you. Not seen many companies who do that.
That's exactly what i thought
Maybe we should write them a thankyou email for all their great help in name of the whole xda-developers community what u think
Anyhow, can somebody explain me real quick what should be definitely be installed to WM6?
@PhoenixAG: yeaa stupid T-Mobile GER...they didnt take away the wifi chip on the S710 or the newer ones, have no idea why they did it to the Excalibur then..
It would be a good idea to stick this solution.
I think many users in this forum have exactly the same problem in doing a cross model ID update. You can see Excalibur devices from many countries and carriers here.
I have a T-Mobile MDA Mail too which lacks the Wi-Fi and had to do the same steps after cid-unlocking it through imeicheck.
You have to do it really step by step. I had problems in doing it out of my memory for the new HTC ROM and wondered why it failed. But going through it step by step really works EVERY time I did it and thats now the third time.
First was installing T-Mobile Dash WM6 ROM, second the Russian HTC ROM and now finally the German HTC WM6 ROM.
Yes, we're all noobs!!!
I have a brand new Excalibur (I bricked my first one five mins. out of the box) and I attempt to upgrade following instructions on the tutorial posted on these forums.
What's not stated on said tutorial (and no one tells you, only after you bricked your phone) is that YOU MUST BACK UP YOUR ORIGINAL ROM before the upgrade, because if anything goes wrong, that is the only ROM you can flash to your phone to restore it, otherwise IT IS BRICKED. (Believe me, it happened to me).
So, to all you experts reading these, please, help us noobs and post here a complete guide on how to back up your original ROM.
We will thank and worship you forever!!!
These days, there is no need to backup your own Rom.
We have a collection of ROMs on this site alone. Or in my signature.
I do suggest to download one prior to updating your ROM.
This forum uses most of a collection of ROM i have uploaded for everyone.
Click here for the forum of original ROMS
Mikey1022 said:
These days, there is no need to backup your own Rom.
We have a collection of ROMs on this site alone. Or in my signature.
I do suggest to download one prior to updating your ROM.
This forum uses most of a collection of ROM i have uploaded for everyone.
Click here for the forum of original ROMS
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I have two questions: Firstly, there is no official O2 Xda Cosmo ROM or? Secondly, if you back up the ROM first, how can you flash it back to the device? Is there a tutorial for this?
Thanks
READ this thread
uccellino said:
I have two questions: Firstly, there is no official O2 Xda Cosmo ROM or? Secondly, if you back up the ROM first, how can you flash it back to the device? Is there a tutorial for this?
Thanks
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yeah i'm waiting for the official O2 Xda cosmo ROM. i need it badly because my camera doesn't work anymore with new ROM. and i am totally agree to write a clear reminder to backup your original ROM first before upgrading in the upgrading ROM thread. just in case for noob like me....
Mikey1022 said:
READ this thread
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After rereading, I still have the questions:
1. How is it possible to flash back a saved backup ROM image?
2. If I use a USPL and then something goes wrong while flashing a cooked ROM, can I only re-flash my original ROM (i.e. for XDA Cosmo which doesn't exist)?
Thanks
Okay - maybe I just figured out the answer to my own question: if I flash the USPL-RUU first before flashing a ROM update, maybe this means I can reflash if something goes wrong? Is this correct, or is there a chance that the SPL get overwritten before the error and I still get stuck?
Well, in fact, it is necessary...
Mikey1022 said:
These days, there is no need to backup your own Rom.
We have a collection of ROMs on this site alone. Or in my signature.
I do suggest to download one prior to updating your ROM.
This forum uses most of a collection of ROM i have uploaded for everyone.
Click here for the forum of original ROMS
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...When I mean original ROM, I mean the ROM that could only work on a CID-Locked-by-a-carrier Excalibur, not the HTC WW ROM release.
Also, many of us noobs are international, I doubt that on the ROM database on this website we'll be able to find, say, the Movistar Mexico HTC Excalibur WM5 1.15.0000 ROM, which in my case, is the only one I would be able to flash in case anything goes wrong on the upgrade attempt. (I dedicated a week searching this ROM for the first Excalibur I bricked, no results)
Therefore - and I really hate to contradict -, for many of us, a ROM backup IS necessary and a tutorial from you experts on how to do it would be a great, great contribution to this community. (And also to the database, 'cause I'll definitively upload my ROM once I back it up)
velascoperroni said:
...When I mean original ROM, I mean the ROM that could only work on a CID-Locked-by-a-carrier Excalibur, not the HTC WW ROM release.
Also, many of us noobs are international, I doubt that on the ROM database on this website we'll be able to find, say, the Movistar Mexico HTC Excalibur WM5 1.15.0000 ROM, which in my case, is the only one I would be able to flash in case anything goes wrong on the upgrade attempt. (I dedicated a week searching this ROM for the first Excalibur I bricked, no results)
Therefore - and I really hate to contradict -, for many of us, a ROM backup IS necessary and a tutorial from you experts on how to do it would be a great, great contribution to this community. (And also to the database, 'cause I'll definitively upload my ROM once I back it up)
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Actually, it's quite easy to CID unlock your phone to load whatever ROM you want. Much easier in fact, than dumping your current ROM and restoring it. I was able to flash my first ROM within about 30 minutes of reading on this forum, and had no problems at all.
velascoperroni said:
...When I mean original ROM, I mean the ROM that could only work on a CID-Locked-by-a-carrier Excalibur, not the HTC WW ROM release.
Also, many of us noobs are international, I doubt that on the ROM database on this website we'll be able to find, say, the Movistar Mexico HTC Excalibur WM5 1.15.0000 ROM, which in my case, is the only one I would be able to flash in case anything goes wrong on the upgrade attempt. (I dedicated a week searching this ROM for the first Excalibur I bricked, no results)
Therefore - and I really hate to contradict -, for many of us, a ROM backup IS necessary and a tutorial from you experts on how to do it would be a great, great contribution to this community. (And also to the database, 'cause I'll definitively upload my ROM once I back it up)
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I completely agree with you
I just have no idea how to restore a backed-up ROM and I haven't read anything saying how to do it either. As you say, many of us a stuck with devices CID locked to some international ROM that is impossible to get.
So once again the question: Does anyone know how to re-flash a backed-up ROM?
I'm no expert but all I'm going to say is this. If you have a Rom from a different carrier that has not leaked to the public, then you are probably out of luck. You take the risk of hoping your phone will not have serious problems down the line of your contract or usage. You should pick up insurance on your phone depending on the stipulations your carrier has about lost or stolen or even broken phones. In that case you could return/replace your phone if need be after modifying it to your liking. I also would suggest that the entire reason we are here is that we don't want to be like the norm. We want what we paid for and don't want to be restricted. It's a risk. You must make that choice and succeed or fail that's not anyone's problem but your own. With all the Roms out there you should find one to your liking. If you brick your phone which seems so much more difficult than my razr modding days, than sell it for parts and lesson learned.
In the U.S. the Open Headset Alliance is our future so what we do to our phones in the future will be our choice.
Good Modding
Pfunk
C'mon guys...
Wy all the negativity?
I'm I conspiring against copyright laws if I want to have a backup of the ROM I paid for?
Is backing up a ROM frowned upon on this community? or is it so easy (from what I can gather it requires "dumping" and "restoring") that it is even insulting for me to ask you how to do it?
Yes, we are all here because we don't conform to the norm, but we are all HERE to help each other out. Why the closure? Why the elitism?
Like all of you, I want to take full advantage of the piece of technology I acquired without the restrictions installed on them by the phone corps. Yes, I would like to have the minimum risks while doing so, and yes, I would like to do it as cost effective as I can, just as anyone of you would.
It is a risk to upgrade a Cid.Locked phone with the bypass provided on this website, It happened to me and to many: USB cord unplugs and voila, bricked phone.
One alternative is to pay $40 bucks for a permanent Cid.Unlock, which will allow you to flash and flash and flash, even if you get stuck in the middle of one process.
The other, used by many here who wont pay, is to use the Cid bypass, while having a backup original rom "just in case".
What I only ask (for myself and my peer noobs) is to have this same other alternative as many, many of you.
Really, is it to hard to post the following?
1. Downoad these softwares;
2. Do this to "dump";
3. Do that to "restore";
4. To re-flash, do this.
C'mon, all for one and one for all right?
p.s. For my friend asking how to re-flash a backed up ROM, from what I've gathered, it goes something like this: your backed up ROM must be in a *.bn format (I still don't know how to even achieve this); then you must get a hold of any HTC RUU Software, extract it (Winrar) and replace the *.bn file inside the extracted folder with your *.bn file; with the HTC connected in bootloader mode, run the exe file in the extracted folder.
velascoperroni said:
...I doubt that on the ROM database on this website we'll be able to find, say, the Movistar Mexico HTC Excalibur WM5 1.15.0000 ROM, which in my case, is the only one I would be able to flash in case anything goes wrong on the upgrade attempt. (I dedicated a week searching this ROM for the first Excalibur I bricked, no results)
Therefore - and I really hate to contradict -, for many of us, a ROM backup IS necessary and a tutorial from you experts on how to do it would be a great, great contribution to this community. (And also to the database, 'cause I'll definitively upload my ROM once I back it up)
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The Official ROMs collection is as full as I can make it. To have more images, we need everyone to upload ones that are missing to something like rapidshare, mediafire, or one of a few dozen other hosting sites, then tell up here on xda dev. Or upload it to several yourself. Spreading things on the net is much easier than ripping the ROM out anyway, and you benefit from the online backups, too.
So, yes, if you aren't going to back up your ROM, hope that someone else already has. Or, even better, be that first guy who does it, to make things easier for the rest of us. Besides, we might want to see what kinda goodies are tucked in the Movistar version
Indeed!
Profezza said:
...Or, even better, be that first guy who does it, to make things easier for the rest of us. Besides, we might want to see what kinda goodies are tucked in the Movistar version
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Thanks for the support Profezza, indeed I intend to be the first, but in order to do that, I need to know how to do it.
I'll keep my hopes up for someone to post here the procedure for backing up my own ROM.
Also, the Movistar version is pretty lame, at least it would be a language addition to the database since it is originally in Spanish.
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Thanks for the support Profezza, indeed I intend to be the first, but in order to do that, I need to know how to do it.
I'll keep my hopes up for someone to post here the procedure for backing up my own ROM.
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My post kinda ignored that point, as... I don't actually know how it is done.
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Also, the Movistar version is pretty lame, at least it would be a language addition to the database since it is originally in Spanish.
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I think the version # system is controlled by HTC and fairly consistent across brandings, so it looks like it is a rather old one, but yeah, it could handy just for the Spanish. And ya never know, maybe a better graphic or two in some odd corner. I'll come back and bump this if it looks like it is fading away.
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p.s. For my friend asking how to re-flash a backed up ROM, from what I've gathered, it goes something like this: your backed up ROM must be in a *.bn format (I still don't know how to even achieve this); then you must get a hold of any HTC RUU Software, extract it (Winrar) and replace the *.bn file inside the extracted folder with your *.bn file; with the HTC connected in bootloader mode, run the exe file in the extracted folder.
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Hi velascoperroni!
Thank you for your help - this is helping me to get closer to understanding
Basically I have my old ROM image as .img files (actually 5 of them) produced by bkondisk, together with a log file saying what goes where. So now all we need to figure out is how to turn these back into a .bn file and we'll be in business. For info on bkondisk, which lets you save your ROM (as .img files), see this wiki http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=bkondisk
Could anyone point me to some resources on these two file formats? Then maybe we could come up with a conversion program when one doesnt exist
Getting closer!
Great, it seems we are getting closer to our goal!!!
But still surprises me that no one has posted a complete how to... perhaps the only few who know the deal haven't read this thread yet.
Now we know the following:
1. Bkondisk: software that allows to backup ROM in *.img format.
2. The original format of the ROM is *.bn
We don't know if the *.img file needs to be converted to *.bn or if they are compatible.
I also found out about an easier method to re-flash the ROM:
1. Format your SD Card in FAT32;
2. Copy your *.bn file to your SD Card;
3. Turn off phone, insert SD Card, Turn on phone in bootloader mode;
4. The phone should automatically recognize the ROM and start the flashing process.
Uccelino: Try placing the *.img file in the SD Card instead of the *.bn file. Maybe, just maybe the phone also recognizes *img files!
Getting closer!
Great, it seems we are getting closer to our goal!!!
But still surprises me that no one has posted a complete how to... perhaps the only few who know the deal haven't read this thread yet.
Now we know the following:
1. Bkondisk: software that allows to backup ROM in *.img format.
2. The original format of the ROM is *.bn
We don't know if the *.img file needs to be converted to *.bn or if they are compatible.
I also found out about an easier method to re-flash the ROM:
1. Format your SD Card in FAT32;
2. Copy your *.bin file to your SD Card;
3. Turn off phone, insert SD Card, Turn on phone in bootloader mode.
4. The phone should automatically recognize the ROM and start the flashing process.
Uccelino: Try placing the *.img file in the SD Card instead of the *.bin file. Maybe, just maybe the phone also recognizes *img files!
Also...
Sorry for the double post back there!!
Also check out this thread I started when I bricked my first Excalibur:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=378050
I never got a feasible response to wether sprite backup would work or not, and I did not want to spend $30 bucks to find out.
velascoperroni said:
Great, it seems we are getting closer to our goal!!!
But still surprises me that no one has posted a complete how to... perhaps the only few who know the deal haven't read this thread yet.
Now we know the following:
1. Bkondisk: software that allows to backup ROM in *.img format.
2. The original format of the ROM is *.bn
We don't know if the *.img file needs to be converted to *.bn or if they are compatible.
I also found out about an easier method to re-flash the ROM:
1. Format your SD Card in FAT32;
2. Copy your *.bin file to your SD Card;
3. Turn off phone, insert SD Card, Turn on phone in bootloader mode.
4. The phone should automatically recognize the ROM and start the flashing process.
Uccelino: Try placing the *.img file in the SD Card instead of the *.bin file. Maybe, just maybe the phone also recognizes *img files!
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I just had an idea: I will flash a ROM, back it up, and compare the *.bn files to the *.img files I get from backing up - maybe they are or are almost the same, and we can convert them
I will try. Thanks