Noticed a number of people lamenting the lack of usb host functions in current pda's, so here's some good news:
Sitecom (hxxp://www.sitecom.com) have released two usb-on-the-go products:
CN-131 - USB On-The-Go-Copy Box
CN-230 - USB On-the-Go Cable
They claim you can connect two usb devices without needing a pc.
I haven't been able to confirm how compatible it is, but reading up on the usb-on-the-go specification, I'm optimistic.
I haven't been able to find either on sale in the UK, but came across a review site in the Netherlands quoting RRP of €14.99 for cable and €34,99 for box.
Also, Micro Warehouse (hxxp://www.microwarehouse.co.uk) stock something called the Macally SyncBox, which does the same for £24,66 incl vat.
As far as I can tell, all these devices are available to people in the USA and mainland Europe.
For my use, I wish to connect my SPV M1000 to my HDD mp3 player. I spend 3-6 hours on the road every working day and I've been waiting for a device that will allow me to carry a large chunk of media (music, games, ebooks, etc) around with me, that can be (relatively) easily swapped.
http://homepage.mac.com/techedgeezine/2004-0624_syncbox1.htm
Heres some more info and pictures on the Macnally box.
http://www.delkin.com/pdf/product_docs/usb_bridge.pdf
Heres a link to the Delkin version, neither look like it will work with a pda though
Oh, Yeah?
Thanks for the reply, cruisin-thru. I was hoping one of the more technically proficient members would pick up on this.
Can I ask why you think it won't work?
I thought that, using the standard usb cable supplied with the SPV M1000 et al, and the same with my HDD mp3 player, there shouldn't be a problem.
The Sitecom products claim to work with most any usb 1.1 or 2.0 products.
The more I read up on usb, the more confusing it seems to get...
http://www.usb.org/developers/onthego/
from what i can read here a device is needed to be born usbontEHGO
for it to work non of the htc devices are to my knowlage born with that
The reason that it would probably not work is that the USB from the PDA to the PC is for the PC to recognise the PDA and present network/sync data to it - the PDA cannot look the other way down the cable and see the PC or any other device connected to the PC.
You can access the PDA's storage from the PC but you can't access the PC's storage from the PDA. Before anyone nitpicks, yes you could do it with a client/server setup or even an FTP server - but you wouldn't be recognising the PC as a device.
That is to say that the PDA is not equipped with anything to discover or use a USB hard disk connected to its USB cable, even with a clever little box in between. Even if the clever little box can discover hard disks connected to it and allow the user to perform disk operations from the box, the clever little box would not recognise the PDA (as it is not a hard disk, nor recognised as a hard disk.)
usb otg should work
the qualcomm 7500 has native usb otg(on the go) support, but you probably need special cableing
Hi Guys.
Which compactflash cards can I use with my backpack? Are there cards which dont work? I bougt a hitachi 4GB microdrive and it doesnt work at all in my backpack.
PLZ HELP
thx all
here is what others say
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=10475&highlight=backpack+microdrive
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=11560&highlight=backpack+microdrive
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=10197&highlight=backpack+microdrive
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=9335&highlight=backpack+microdrive
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=26981
And this one. :wink:
RE
criff,
Do not use any overclocking software like XCPUScalar or Pocket Hack Master with the backpack for these programs does not speed up the backpack. In fact, it'll cause the MD or CF card NOT to be recognised.
FI, I'm using WM2003SE
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FOSA said:
criff,
Do not use any overclocking software like XCPUScalar or Pocket Hack Master with the backpack for these programs does not speed up the backpack. In fact, it'll cause the MD or CF card NOT to be recognised.
FI, I'm using WM2003SE
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So, I can use overclok withour the backpack but when I put on the backpack I desactived it?
Thanks
RE
Hi JeromeMorrow,
I've not tried that since my backpack is always attach to my O2 XDA II. Its too troublesome to attach and detach backpack and using it.
One more thing which happened to me. When using overclocking software it'll interfered with my GPS program too.
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FOSA said:
Hi JeromeMorrow,
I've not tried that since my backpack is always attach to my O2 XDA II. Its too troublesome to attach and detach backpack and using it.
One more thing which happened to me. When using overclocking software it'll interfered with my GPS program too.
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Here, the link of the program that I use (see the 3 post)... :wink:
http://www.pcdemano.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=6363&highlight=velocidad
RE
Hi JeromeMorrow,
Its best to try on your side and see whether there's any conflict with attaching and detaching your backpack.
One other thing. If you'll to use any registry cleaning software like Pocket Mechanic, MemMaid, SK Tool etc be careful when cleaning because you'll remove any shorcut which points to the program installed on your MD or CF card with the backpack detached.
FI, the 6GB Hitachi MD is out below but not sure whether its supported by the backpack. Here:-
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?sku=A0473825&cs=19&c=us&l=en
Hello,
I'm wondering if 4gb SD still works with our blue angel before i buy it?
I heard 2gb is working without any problem.
Thanks everyone!
Yes.
I'm using a 4GB SD card that I bought from Amazon.
thank you so much!
My Transcend 4GB card works like a charm. No tech problems whatsoever, and it's a little faster than my previous card as well (despite the speed limitations of the Blue Angel SD-reader).
But just so you know what you're getting into: as decadent as it may sound, I'm now facing a different kind of problem.
I've got about half of the card filled up with all the music I'll ever need, a TomTom map and the complete TLG (Thesaurus Linguae Graecae: every classical Greek text ever written, an invaluable research tool). Now the haunting question is, what will I do with the other half? 8)
No really, anybody got any tips? Are there any great programs out there that require a huge amount of storage space? I need to waste it on something cool or I'll explode!!! :shock:
:? I'm pretty sure this is exactly what Heidegger meant by succumbing to the inane obligations of new technological possibilities instead of using them as a means to an end... I wonder if a little "Gelassenheit" wouldn't be out of place here. So before you buy that huge sd card, ask yourself if you're ready to face the unfathomable existential void of about 2 gigs of leftover free storage!
Nah, just kidding, 4GB rules. Just buy it and don't worry about compatibility. Sorry about the rant. I've had too much coffee. :wink:
what about wikipedia?
or myFlash by www.adata.com.tw?
loopback said:
what about wikipedia?
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Now that might be a good idea.
A 1GB card would probably do me for everyday use, but I got a 4GB card to be used in my PDA and also as a USB drive by using it with card reader that is similar proportions to a USB drive - SanDisk MobileMate SD+ - fits on a keychain though I have to use an elastic band to stop the cap falling off. I need this so I can bring work home.
For everyday use I suppose I can fill it up with music so my PDA is more like an iPod. But I really need a large card when travelling - maps, scanned guide books and videos, music, podcasts to make the journey go quicker.
PDA as USB drive
Browsing through the forums, someone suggested using Card Export with a USB sync cable:
http://www.softick.com/pocket-pc/cardexport2/
to turn your PDA into a USB mass storage device - cool idea. Just downloaded a trial but transferring files is quite slow. Below is a quick test:
Card Export II with PPCTechs Lil' Sync Pro: 0.56MB/sec
SanDisk MobileMate SD+ Card Reader: 2.93MB/sec
It's probably because the "card reader" in the PDA is slow; I wonder if the BlueAngel supports USB 2.
Mini SD + Adapter + What to do with all the space
I've just (today) got a mini SD (2G) with SD Adapter.
The 1GB card was nearly full. (13Mb remains)
But the effect of the 2Gb... weird... or what?
Windoze XP Pro (SP2) declines to copy anything on to this SD + Adapter past the 1GB mark...
BUT...
BUT...
Microshaft's ActiveSync will??!!??
Mind you, it creates a funny looking directory list with loads of phantom file folders. But on the XDA, the files are all there, and beyond the 1Gb boundary, and they are accessible.
The card reader is one of those 50-in-1 usb jobs, with three extra USBs on the end.
Windoze File Explorer says .99Gb Used 913Mb left now.
I've yet to try this 2Gb + Adapter in my PCMCIA card adapter for my old Jornadas.
XDA now says 1019.46 in use with 913.63 free as well after copying my old 1Gb card and some 30Mb of docs I needed.
I hooked in here again to see if there was a simple fix for Windoze. Or indeed for our XDAs.
Even tried copying a folder full of txt, Doc, and PDF over to the card. When it failed on some nonsensical bad file error... which we know is wrong as the file is quite accessible on the PC where it was being copied from... we tried copying the remainder to another folder. It had a go at this and even put the copying screen with the files flying across... but they never went over and it soon failed on another error.
Getting back to your space problem... one of the things I use space on the XDA SD for now, aside from music mp3s, is audio books. I'd forgotten just how good it is to have someone read to you. Especially when it's someone like Tony Robinson reading Terry Pratchett.
Stick the XDA in top pocket, bins on, head back, and let the story take you.
We use a site which specifically caters for e-books and Audio now. I used to get them from the other more general download link sites, but this one is a bit specialised. It's called Wordhaven.
If you want a pointer to it, then please LMK.
After copying over an audio book I wanted to listen to (The Night of The Triffids, Unabridged 300 odd Meg) the XDA Settings/Memory/Storage Card reading became 1393.75 In Use, on 539.34 remains so I guess from one point of view... the XDA... it is working.
Files check out and play too.
It's just Windoze doesn't want to co-operate really with the file copying, but it still reads 1.36Gb on 539Mb remains in File Explorer.
Now why is that?
I was deliberately steered away from 4Gb for the XDA. After reading some of the accounts here I'm not too sorry we went for the 2Gb.
Does the fact that all cards we have seem to be formatted for FAT (presumably the ancient egyptian version) rather than FAT32, have anything to do with it... and why is NTFS not an option offered in Windoze format for cards??
QF
Robrecht said:
My Transcend 4GB card works like a charm. No tech problems whatsoever, and it's a little faster than my previous card as well (despite the speed limitations of the Blue Angel SD-reader).
But just so you know what you're getting into: as decadent as it may sound, I'm now facing a different kind of problem.
I've got about half of the card filled up with all the music I'll ever need, a TomTom map and the complete TLG (Thesaurus Linguae Graecae: every classical Greek text ever written, an invaluable research tool). Now the haunting question is, what will I do with the other half? 8)
No really, anybody got any tips? Are there any great programs out there that require a huge amount of storage space? I need to waste it on something cool or I'll explode!!! :shock:
:? I'm pretty sure this is exactly what Heidegger meant by succumbing to the inane obligations of new technological possibilities instead of using them as a means to an end... I wonder if a little "Gelassenheit" wouldn't be out of place here. So before you buy that huge sd card, ask yourself if you're ready to face the unfathomable existential void of about 2 gigs of leftover free storage!
Nah, just kidding, 4GB rules. Just buy it and don't worry about compatibility. Sorry about the rant. I've had too much coffee. :wink:
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SDHC
INHUMANITY said:
Yes.
I'm using a 4GB SD card that I bought from Amazon.
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This is very interesting since there is a new SD standard out there called SDHC (Secure Digital High Capacity). From what I've been reading this standard support 4GB up to 32GB, and the old SD standard only supports up to 2GB.
What's more interesting the 4GB cards you guys are possibly referring to (?) are somewhere in between these two standards because it's too big for the regular SD standard but it's not SDHC. It's cool it still works though.
So is the 4GB card that you're talking about SDHC or "regular" SD?
They're regular SD cards not the HCSD ones, however technically since they exceed the 2GB capacity, they are no longer conforming to the SD specifications. I use the Kingmax M-Series ones without any issues.
has anyone used capacities of more than 4GB on their BA?
I have a big problem
I dont know how can I start ,, I will tell you
I bought sd card 4Gb from Ebay ,
after 3 weeks waiting came , after that I tried to fromat it from laptop, but its gave me only Less 1Gb after that I formated it from my blue angel, then gave me 4 Gb and work 100%
so I can transfer the mp3s and my data from the cardle,,
after 1 week I tried to make read it from my laptop the laptop make me format it again , and I format it ,,, but while its formatting the laptop became haaaaang :| .....
so ,, now its not working on my PCC and PC ,, when I tried to format it from the blue angle gave me , make me wait for 1 min then gave me this massege : " this storage card could not be formatted. try reinserting the card, or using a different one"
when I tried to format it from my laptop , after insert it the laptop cant read it .( its like there is no Sd card) but when I put another SDcard 256Mb its working.
so what did you think ?? do you think my sd card 4Gb this is will not working anymore or what ??
kiddomarc said:
Hello,
I'm wondering if 4gb SD still works with our blue angel before i buy it?
I heard 2gb is working without any problem.
Thanks everyone!
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I have 4GB Kingfish SD card working in my XDA IIs
4gb SD-HC *not* working
I have a 4gb SDHC card (Peak Xtreme x150 class6) and it does *not* work with my Orange SPV M2000 (Blue Angel).
So please don't waste your money and buy one of these cards (SDHC) if you're planning to use it with your PDA and nothing else.
(I hope this helps someone and maybe saves them some ca$h)
need some help
hey there, got a problem with a new takeMS sd-card. it does not appear in file explorer or even in total commander when i put it in. im using WM6 from the wiki on my Blue Angel. a softreset also doesn't help it. what could be the problem.
greetz fabfisch
PS: seems like the card also does not realy fit into the slot. it comes out realy hard.
Abdullah85 said:
I have a big problem
I dont know how can I start ,, I will tell you
I bought sd card 4Gb from Ebay ,
after 3 weeks waiting came , after that I tried to fromat it from laptop, but its gave me only Less 1Gb after that I formated it from my blue angel, then gave me 4 Gb and work 100%
so I can transfer the mp3s and my data from the cardle,,
after 1 week I tried to make read it from my laptop the laptop make me format it again , and I format it ,,, but while its formatting the laptop became haaaaang :| .....
so ,, now its not working on my PCC and PC ,, when I tried to format it from the blue angle gave me , make me wait for 1 min then gave me this massege : " this storage card could not be formatted. try reinserting the card, or using a different one"
when I tried to format it from my laptop , after insert it the laptop cant read it .( its like there is no Sd card) but when I put another SDcard 256Mb its working.
so what did you think ?? do you think my sd card 4Gb this is will not working anymore or what ??
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Two things might be happening here:
1. Your laptop might be an old one that can't read larger SD cards. Lots of older laptops won't read anything over a certain size (e.g. 1GB). When they can't read it, they often tell you that you need to reformat it, just like you saw. Some laptops have a driver update. If not, you can always buy a cheap USB SD card reader.
2. You may have bought a fake sized SD card from Ebay. There was a spate of them formatted to display a bigger size than they really were. Probably this isn't the problem, because you formatted it from your BA.
no one got some ideas for me?
Robrecht said:
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No really, anybody got any tips? Are there any great programs out there that require a huge amount of storage space? I need to waste it on something cool or I'll explode!!! :shock:
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Use pocket torrent ^^
My buddy is leaving for military overseas and just got kindle fire...not new one..he also got exteral hard drive. He wanted me to load up the hard drive with a bunch of movies i have for him to watch. Do i have to root the fire for it to read the hard drive? I have no problem rooting since i do it with all my phones and tablets. Ive seen stuff that involves having a OTG cable...im going to assume thats mandatory. What roms support the feature? Can you buy one of those cables at best buy or only online? Thanks for any help
I am not sure if this can be done, from what i have read a few topics on this in numerous places and nobody has had success with an actual external hard drive. Of course for it to even be possible you would need an adapter and there is still no way that i have found to make the Kindle to be able to read the content on the external drive to make it usable on the kindle. If it is i would also like to know how because the 6ish GB that are made available besides the cloud drive are quite small and can run low real fast.
Only one way to find out
I KNOW there is support for usb OTG for the kindle. What ROM to run? I have no idea. I know that you need at least Hashcode's 3.x kernel for it to work. twa_priv has a ROM that has that, is regularly updated, and has a lot of bonus features too http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1778010. I a currently running it. I have an OTG cable, but I have lost all my usb drives. I have heard that it works with mice and keyboards, but haven't gotten any success with those.
I have this installed: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=hu.sztupy.android.usbhostcontroller
i don't know if you need it or not, but i think you do.
Alright, my HTC g2 finally went completely out earlier this week and I am looking at upgrading to the note 2. I am looking at a complete day to day replacement for all my things(pc, games, radio, head unit(appradio2)). I've been able to figure out everything on my bench build via research except one thing, my old disc media such as dvd's and cd's. Is there a way to use a usb adapter to plug in a external pc cd drive and have it work with the note 2? I know it excepts hard drives and flash drives shouldn't a disc drive be no different? Thanks in advance for any help on it matter!
I have been all over the web, have found tidbits of info on other older devices but nothing about the gs3/note2 specifically.
I still haven't found a definite answer yet :crying: I am surprised a lot of people haven't tried this yet with people trying to make there phones "desktop" replacements now. Or they have and are not chiming in .