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Hi everyone... I am new to the PPC world... being just recently swatch from my Treo600 to a new XDA2s, I am having a little difficulty getting used to the Microsoft way of doing things in PPC2003... I am just wondering is there anyone who can help me or point me to the right direction where I can get some external program that can help me from going insane... here's my problem... I usually keep a huge contact list with all my customer, supplier, co-worker, family and friends contact all in my PDA... so the usual way for me to make a phone call is to search it from the contact list... but here's my problem, I travel alot with my job and depending on my current location, I have to edit the number in my contact before I dial the number... in my old palm, I can simply edit the number before I dial that number (there's a funtion on my palm that allows you to edit before call... so it allows me to edit the number without physically changing the number in my contact list)... I am just wondering can PPC do that? Or is there any program in PPC that will allow me to do that? As far as I can see... in PPC, as soon as I have search for a contact and then I click on his or her number with my stylist... it will automatically dial... I can not edit it before I dial... the only way I can edit it before I dial is to physically edit the contacts... which is very annoying as I sync my contacts with my exchange server, I don't wanna to have to have all my contact get mess up with different area code and dialling code from different country... anyone know how can I solve this problem? Thanks for your help in advance... I very much appriciate all of your advice in advance... Peter
I think the most straightforwards solution here is to store all of your numbers in the international dialling format; that way, wherever you are, your device will place the call correctly
For example - if I had a contact in Glasgow, UK, it would be stored as +44141xxxxxxx (+44 for UK, 141 for Glasgow and the remaining seven digits as the local number)
In my experience whenever I have been abroad, any calls to any of my stored numbers are placed correctly first time by either my SmartPhone or PPC.
If you're problem is regarding a slightly different issue then please expand on your problem by detailing what you mean by "modifying" your contact before you dial.
My problem is a little bit more complicated I think... I already has most number stored in the international dialing format... but my problem is that, depending on my location, I have to dial a certian set of numbers in front of the phone number to be dial in order for me to save on long distance and roaming... for example, while I am roaming in Mainland China if I want to dial home in Hong Kong with my mobile... normally, I will dial 0085226****88 but that will cost me like USD2 per minute... but if I dial with a prefix of 17909 (hence I will type in: 179090085226****88) then my per minute charge will now be something like USD0.10 per minute... which is a huge saving especially when I make roaming and long distance call all the time... the same thing in Hong Kong, if I dial 1666 before I dial long distance, I will get a much higher savings over regular long distance... my problem is that I can not possibly store all of these information for all the locations that I am going to be in, each places that I am going to be in, have a different sets of number... so is there any intellegent way to add additional numbers in front of the number stored in the contacts before it is being dialed in pocket pc? I know on my old palm... I can solve this problem in two ways... 1) I can set a certain dialing prefix before the system dial any number (normally I leave that blank, as I prefer edit before dial function)... I can use this prefix function but it will require me to change the prefix when I am at a different location but it is a workable solutions... is there something like that in PPC? 2) The second way to solve this was the edit before dialing function on the palm... I just click on the number, it allows me to edit the number temporary before it is automatically paste onto the phone software and before the phone dials it...
Anyway, I know this is very complicated and it is a very rare issues thats probably just affecting me or a very small number of users... but it will be great if there's some simple solutions to this... but I think this problem is mainly due to the lack of flexiblilty in the contact list rather then the function of the phone itself! :O) Anyway, thank you very much for your help and suggestions again... very much appriciate it :O) Peter
Try if this works
http://www.handango.com/Platform ... sp?productId=152403
Can you please post the link again? It doesn't work :O) Thanks for your help :O) What kind of program is it? :O)
here's the link
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you got it all wrong
... if you ask me: your approach is wrong. Here are the basics. Windows XP, for instance and Outlook, that is the source of the contacts (and phone numbers and other details that are entered), stores phone numbers in this 'international' format:
country code (MS has a list of countries and codes of its own)
are code (another, separate field) and
number
If you respect the fields provided by Outlook then you get a number generated by Outlook that looks like this:
+381 (064) 6185250
THIS is the 'correct' international format recognised by Microsoft Phone Dialer (well not actually MS but Active Voice, but that is a completely different issue)
My point is that +448704364673 is NOT a correct international phormat, because MS cannot differentiate between the international country code and long distance (area code) and therefore the phone dialer cannot parse the numbers correctly.
NOW, how to get the system to know WHERE you are and should it use the area code when dialing or you are in the area your friend is, or you want to call a toll free number that is in 'another' area, or you are dialing a client abroad etc. Well, there is the 'Dialing Rules' settings! THERE you create a profile (home, office, abroad etc.) and provide the area code for the dialer to differentiate...
This is all well with the Windows XP/Outlook 2002+ I know well, BUT when it comes to PPC... sorry, I have the same problem...>
FACTS:
fact no. 1: Outlook separates phone numbers in groups of>
country code
long distance code (area code)
number
fact no. 2: phone numbers entered this way are stored in a format>
+381 (064) 6185250
fact no. 2: Microsoft Phone Dialer recognises this number and dials correctly
via a voice modem... (headset or speaker/mike required)
Question: what hapens when contacts entered this way into Outlook are sunchronized with the
Pocket PC (Windows Mobile 5.0)?
Answer : all contact's numbers are entered into the Contacts list in the 'correct' format.
(the same format with the bracket, as is noted in PC Outlook)
My findings: the problem arrises when you use your mobile capable Pocket PC
(i.e. the super cool Qtek 9000) and try to dial someone on to his mobile or office phone that are on another
area code...
the Pocket PC, or Windows Mobile 'Phone dialer' dials EXACTLY
as the number is entered in the above mentioned format
(the mobile operator recognises the + at the beggining of the number, but
does not understand the spaces and the brackets!!! and offcourse
the mobile operator returns an error voice message that a wrong number has been dialed!
What am I to do?
Can I find/download/install a proper phone dialer (i.e. MS Phone Dialer) that comes with Windows?
Phone Dialer 1.5
Developed for Microsoft by Active Voice
http://www.activevoice.com/dialer
bottom line is that CISCO systems aquired this Phone Dialer in 2001 and Active Voice discontinued developing/supporting whit app. (link on the Active Voice site is outdated and no support on MS site, as well)
(please do not post solutions as: "you should reformat your number entries etc. because I have 800+ contacts and counting...)
P.S. what I gathered is that this is not device related it is just OS and app related. I had the same problem with my previous Nokia phone... (I did not solve. Actually I thought I will solve with this device...)
I've set the Dialing Rules with my country code and area code (Mobile etc.) So, I don't have a clue what am I doung wrong
Hi all,
I posted somethinig similar to this a while ago. I am using my Diamond to call VoIP numbers, i.e. call a landline then wait for a few seconds and enter the destination number followed by hash #. The landline number is the same for all destinations and only the second part differs, which is the destination number. The numbers look like:
0123456789, 00447890123456#
Now, if I store two or more such contacts in the address book, e.g.
Bar: 0123456789, 00441234567890#
Foo: 0123456789, 00447890123456#
Joe: 0123456789, 00445678901234#
the, regardless which one I call, say Foo, in the call log it will always list "Bar" as having been called. The same happens if I replace the comma with a "p". The number however is stored correctly, i.e. if I redial it, it will call the number for Foo which is what was dialed in the first place.
It appears as being a bug in WM6.1. I haven't tried WM6.5 (anyone?).
How in the world can I fix this?
Cheers for any help
foo? bar? linux-user? i google your text for translaiting but nothing understanding.
do you mean that the order is not correct?
(if you can give an example with more friendly-understanding/windows-user than you can get earlier response from other forum-users.)
hope, you not so much angry
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(if you can give an example with more friendly-understanding/windows-user than you can get earlier response from other forum-users.)
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I understood perfectly. Perhaps it is a english as a second language barrier. I will try to restate the issue. (I wish I knew the answer.)
When you have a extra long number stored to a contact (as you might when you dial a AT&T toll free number with some pauses, then a passcode, then a number.) And you have more than one contact stored with this long number... they all have the same first 10 or so numbers. So regardless of which one was called last, when you look up the call history log, it displays the first one.
It would appear the call history only looks at the first 10 or so digits to find a match.
misfitflt said:
I understood perfectly. Perhaps it is a english as a second language barrier. I will try to restate the issue. (I wish I knew the answer.)
When you have a extra long number stored to a contact (as you might when you dial a AT&T toll free number with some pauses, then a passcode, then a number.) And you have more than one contact stored with this long number... they all have the same first 10 or so numbers. So regardless of which one was called last, when you look up the call history log, it displays the first one.
It would appear the call history only looks at the first 10 or so digits to find a match.
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if this is the case, you can use advanced config or diamond tweak (forgot which one had the option) and from there you can set how many numbers it should check
@misfitflt: Thanks for rephrasing the problem .. I was just about to post. Cheers!
Prewien said:
if this is the case, you can use advanced config or diamond tweak (forgot which one had the option) and from there you can set how many numbers it should check
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I forgot to mention I already played with the number of trailing digits in AdvConfig (that's what apparently the option is called) ... I tried values from the default 6 to 20 and nothing changed. The buggy behaviour persists.
I recently tried a new dialer with address book application that replaces the TF3D dialer; it is called Inesoft Phone v4.5 (it's actually pretty cool). This one does differentiate between numbers with pauses or commas correctly!
I'll try switching off the dialer completely and use the built-in WM6.1 dialer to see if that works fine. If so then the bug is in TouchFlo (?).
Anyone knows of other good dialer software that I could try?
Cheers,
p.s. I'm surprised this hasn't surfaced until now though ... anyone out there with the same issue? Or maybe I need to give the thread a more appropriate title.
i have the same issue but learnt to live with it as i didnt want to shift to another dialer.
tried playing with the number in adv config but of no avail
lemme know if you find anything
Is it possible cancel a single phone number instead of all calls or all the calls for a contact?
I have italian ROM version 1.19.408.1.
Thanks in advance
are you talking about deleting a call in the call history? if so, here's how to hide your mistress' calls.
Press the send key to pull up the phone app & then the bottom left of the dialer there is a Call History button. that will bring up all the individual calls & you can select & delete & hide your affair.
enjoy
xnifex said:
are you talking about deleting a call in the call history? if so, here's how to hide your mistress' calls.
Press the send key to pull up the phone app & then the bottom left of the dialer there is a Call History button. that will bring up all the individual calls & you can select & delete & hide your affair.
enjoy
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Thanks for your answer but your advice doesn't work in my phone with the european rom reported above. I need to delete a single phone to a dialer and not all the phone calls to that dialer.
FOr exampke if I call a friend 10 times and he can't answer I will found in my call history all the 10 calling and this generates confusion, so I want to be free to delete wath I want in my history call to obtain the better information I need.
If in the future, as you mention , I will need to make some "mistress calls" I will use a first generation phone (never a pocket PC phone ) and another sim card but it is not time yet .
Thanks in advance for your cooperation
Call you post a screenshot of what pops up when you press the Call History icon on the dialer? I'd like to see if it's the same as mine.
This was a feature I was also looking for.
I found this on a ROM with Manila 2.5. I apologize but I forgot which one. The ROM was a bit unstable so I am presently using another. I will PM the OP with the ROM I used.
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It was a ROM with Manila 2.5 build 23049
You can delete all calls to an individual caller (or all calls to all callers) but on Manila 2.1 it is not possible to delete a single call to that caller.
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You can delete all calls to an individual caller (or all calls to all callers) but on Manila 2.1 it is not possible to delete a single call to that caller.
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It is possible on 2.1 doing what i described. from the Phone/Dialer, press the bottom left icon for Call History & it will bring up individual calls (sort of like the old WM way) & you can press & hold a single call & it will pop up with an option to delete or you can do it through the Menu.
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It is possible on 2.1 doing what i described. from the Phone/Dialer, press the bottom left icon for Call History & it will bring up individual calls (sort of like the old WM way) & you can press & hold a single call & it will pop up with an option to delete or you can do it through the Menu.
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Wow... I can't believe it was right in front of my eyes the whole time! I was going through my call history from the 6.1 contacts.
Thanks
And for the record, it's the icon directly to the left of the Talk button when you bring up the dialer.
The icon to the left of TALK button on my TP2 toggles between voice calls and video calls. There is no Call History icon
Call History can be called up using the right softkey Menu > Call History, or click on the icon to the right of the call entry, which only gives me the option to delete all calls to that particular caller.
hmm, must be a US only thing then.
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The icon to the left of TALK button on my TP2 toggles between voice calls and video calls. There is no Call History icon
Call History can be called up using the right softkey Menu > Call History, or click on the icon to the right of the call entry, which only gives me the option to delete all calls to that particular caller.
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Yes, I can't find it on my European version of the TP2.
I think freakingwilly did mention a way to do it: through the 'Contacts' app in the 'All Programs' list.
t's a bit fiddly, but the way I've done it is:
1. Press the Phone/Send key to get a list of recent calls, and hit the button to the right side of that entry to get to the Contact Details page
2. Once you're there, press 'More' in the Information section
3. This will bring you out of TouchFLO into Windows Mobile 6.1 page for that contact
4. Tap on 'Last Call' (this will only be present if there is any call history to see)
5. You'll see a list of last calls for that contact which you can delete individually.
Note that this only works if that number is in your phonebook contact list - I haven't found a way to delete unknown callers short of saving them to my phonebook first.
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....Note that this only works if that number is in your phonebook contact list - I haven't found a way to delete unknown callers short of saving them to my phonebook first.
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Nice work!
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hmm, must be a US only thing then.
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Correct !
Indeed, it's a US thing.
The simplest thing I've found is simply to exist TF3D/Sense. I have installed the Darkness Toggler for TF3D Sense/Titanium/SpbShell. Once out of Sense, the option to hold down and delete individual calls is there.
I have US Tmo 6.5 rom. Press and hold does not bring up any menu for me and the moment I let it go, it simply dials that number for me.
@see_u_then:
What you described comes from the TF3D-Sense. Once you get quit sense, you will get the option to delete. As I said in the note above yours, I simply toggle between shells (TF3D/Spb Shell/Titanium). I get the option in all shells (or no shell) except in TF3D-Sense.
(As an aside, it's interesting that they removed this option in the TF3D-Sense2.1. The option was there in the WM6.1/TF3D Manila2.1 version that I had before the "update").
when i go to my call history, 95% of my calls, made or received, come up as unknown! it is pissing me off. all the numbers that are showing up as unkown are number that are stored in my contacts. when the call is made or received the name and picture show up. but a couple of days later it is switched and is shown as a unknown caller! i heard it may have something to do with active sync,, but iam not sure of that. on all my other wm devices this has never happened.
please give me some feed back
anybody else notice this?
sorry, don't have an answer but same problem here.
i second the pissing of the offness.
my unknowns seem to be happening for no reason at all as well.
Unknown numbers can be down to three factors (also on many other WinMo devices).
1, You have the same number duplicated in Contacts under different spelling causing a search error.
2, You have synced Outlook with another software (ie. Nokia or Samsung) that causes slight changes in the Outlook Database. (This can also cause "+" to be omitted from numbers when synced.
3, Not using the latest Activesync software in XP.
Solution I found is to erase all contacts in Outlook (they will remain in the deleted items folder for restore so if all fails you can transfer them back). Edit items in the phone so all are tidy with no duplicates. Then resync.
It's none of those things for me. It just says unkown during the call. If I click View Contact, it'll go to the correct contact in the address book.
Farsquidge said:
Unknown numbers can be down to three factors (also on many other WinMo devices).
1, You have the same number duplicated in Contacts under different spelling causing a search error.
2, You have synced Outlook with another software (ie. Nokia or Samsung) that causes slight changes in the Outlook Database. (This can also cause "+" to be omitted from numbers when synced.
3, Not using the latest Activesync software in XP.
Solution I found is to erase all contacts in Outlook (they will remain in the deleted items folder for restore so if all fails you can transfer them back). Edit items in the phone so all are tidy with no duplicates. Then resync.
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Its None of those for me as well. I just noticed this and yes the contacts are stored in my phone correctly. Hope someone comes up with a solution soon. The call history feature is effectively useless this way... except of course, you have a super brain and can remember all your numbers!
iam the original poster of this problem and also for me these aren't the problems, i try it out and still the same thing, contacts are stored, but still shown unknown number in the call history, that is located in the home tab of touch flo
I've noticed that when my phone is ringing, caller ID works fine and displays the person's name and contact picture. But as soon as I answer the call, it sometimes says "unknown" (though I just received a call and it displayed properly).
I synced my contacts with my exchange server via direct push, not Activesync. And I don't have any dupes.
It just seems like caller ID is a bit on the wonky side...
I also checked dupes and other things.
It can't figure out the pattern.
I called someone today who's phone number I know is in another contact record but it showed the correct call.
Then sometimes I get the "unknown".
e_dogg said:
I've noticed that when my phone is ringing, caller ID works fine and displays the person's name and contact picture. But as soon as I answer the call, it sometimes says "unknown" (though I just received a call and it displayed properly).
I synced my contacts with my exchange server via direct push, not Activesync. And I don't have any dupes.
It just seems like caller ID is a bit on the wonky side...
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This is exactly what I see on my tilt2 as well. I can see who is calling, I answer, and then when I pull the phone away from my ear to hit the end call button it says "unknown caller". The caller information DOES show up in my call history, so the only time I am seeing this problem is during the call.
Hi beautiful people -
I posted this question in the Q&A section as well. Unsure which was the most appropriate place to ask. So if anyone can help, please post answers in the below thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26697919
My questions is:
ds4 said:
Hi beautiful people -
I dial into allot of meeting and with that, I tend to dial the number and passcodes as one number.
ie. xxxxxxxx,yyyyyy#
So when I goto my dialled history, I only see the number dialled "xxxxxxxx". The histroy does not store the pass code and the entire dialled sequence.
Is there an app that will store this entire sequence in history by default?
thanks!
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where:
"x" is the phone number
"y is the passcode
"," comma is the 2 second delay
"#" hash is required to complete the dial sequence.
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