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I just had by XDAIIs hard reset on me when I was changing storage cards :!: :!:
I took the opportunity to look at starting with corporate mode & think I might rebuild and use it in future, but Sprite backup saved my day.
Once I'd re'synced using active sync, I reinstalled Sprite onto the device and then restore from my last daily backup (taken at 5am this morning)
After 15 minutes or so, I had everything back as it was & saved myself a whole lot of pain recovering/reinstalling everything
Just thought I'd share my experience
If you chose to "make executable backup file" or something like that.....you don't even need to reinstall Sprite backup after a Hard reset!! Just execute the file and your device is restored!!
Oystein
sounds good in principle, but how do you do that with Sprite?
Within SB
Options>Switch to Advanced Mode>Backup Options>General Backup Options>Create self-rstoring Backup Files
Cheers - I've found that option on the phone & set it - thanks. I'll try a backup later today when I'm back home. Does this option work for backups initiated on the PC or do I need to initiate them from the phone?
Cheers
What Version of Sprite backup does this and have they fixed the issue with txt messages? With an older version after recovering with Sprite Backup V3 I think the phone would flash to say it had received a text message but no new messages where displayed on the phone?
I have an XDA lls with active sync 3.8
Rom 1.40.00 WWE
Rom date 03/10/05
Radio Version 1.12.00
Protocol Version 1337.42
ExtRom Version 1.40.923 WWE
Active sync has a backup is this not good enough.
also what is Corporate mode?
I have only just got the phone so I dont know much.
doesn't xBackup come with all of the OS builds by default? I have used it to restore my device a couple times just fine.. and best of all its free and works
Hey all
Like everyone else here i love flashing the new cooked roms. LVSW's work a treat.
However it pains me to have to reinstall all my programs.
If i update to say the new LVSW rom can i use SPB backup to backup my current info and then just restore the backup on the new roms. Is there any particular things that should or should be backuped up.
It sounds to simple but would this work or would it just end up causing problems with the new rom.
Is there any other program that might do this.
Cheers.
If you are changing ROMs then the answer is no. Backups only help you if you have to hard-reset to reload a clean version of the same ROM.
tried using sprite and moving between LSVW and Black, seems to be fine, i guess YMMV
Add/Remove Programs
Once all of the slick utilities come together for running customizations after hard reset or flash, the only thing I would think pertinent to restore would be things like call history or text/sms messages.
If you can restore your WiFI, GPRS/3G/MMS settings via a cab, and your apps in one simple run of Activesync or WMDC, why would you want to risk overlaying a program or registry setting?
Bits change between builds. This is no different than loading a service pack or upgrading from XP SP2 to Vista. I wouldn't even consider doing a restore of anything except "My Documents" and some data.
Until backup utilities allow for selective restore, they get loaded on my device as do the rest of my software. After a hard reset and through Add Programs. I then delete my old backups, get the device set up the way I want it, then backup. This way I'm assured that if I have to hard reset once I'm on a particular version, I can restore functionality with a restore.
My .02
Cheers.
I thought it would be a long shot.
Thanks for your help.
Travis
I have been using SPB Backup to restore the entire OS, the contacts database are not interchangeable between WM5 & WM6, but I can swap between WM5/WM6 by just restoring a full backup of either. SPB works ok with WM6, with exception to a couple temp files in the system area cannot be locked to be backed up, and the scheduled backup will not fire.
?Glitch
with wm5, i can full restore ~4-5 minutes.
with wm6 it will take ~30 > mins.
Hi freinds
i cannot install any backup software i tried it with Sprite Backup and a other app
It doesnt work.. it says, that programm is not for this device and cannot be installed
I have that problem with severel apps
my OS:
Windows Mobile 5.0 mit Feature Pack
BS 5.1.342(Build 15097.3.0.1)
Please can u help me?
My problem is not installing the backup software. Its restoring the file that the backup software created. The Backup software creates an EXE file. When you install it after a hard reset, some applications do not work and no programs are left in the Remove Programs area.
So does anyone backup their Windows Mobile smartphone? It seems like there really are no options.
JAmerican
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1335578&postcount=9
try the suggested method I'd posted in the above link
that is really weird ... mine restored "EXACTLY" the point when I started the backup ... down to every tweaks ...etc
I went the "custom" method and also chose to included my SD card as well.
all keys changed in registry are exactly the same ... all programs works ... and within the "remove programs" area .. there is the whole list for me to uninstall ...etc
FYI ... I am using Sprite Backup version 5.2 for Smartphone.
Code:
http://www.spritesoftware.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=185
Which Program to use?
Spb backup?
Sprite backup?
Which one restores perfect backups on WM06?
NAdavi
Sunnysoft Backup Manager
http://www.sunnysoft.cz/software.php?idarticle=245
Have you tested it over WM06?
It works fine in Hermes WM6
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It works fine in Hermes WM6
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ok
i will try.
Thanks
NAdavi
ok i have a question here.. now that i forsee we're going to be in a ROM flashing frenzy for a while, i don't want to manually reinstall everything everytime. So i used sunnysoft backup, but i didn't back up the registry (obviously some programs and settings aren't backed up) cause i figured some of the patches that are being released in newer ROM versions are registry tweaks..
so if i restore a backed up registry, won't there be a chance that it negates the registry tweak in the newer version?
thanks..
I'm no expert, but to my mind, if you want to back up your device and be able to restore it to the same state, you must include the registry in the backup.
When I try to install it says: Please install ActiveSync !! However I have ActiveSync 4.5 installed, any ideas or a CAB file??
Cheers
aZooZa said:
I'm no expert, but to my mind, if you want to back up your device and be able to restore it to the same state, you must include the registry in the backup.
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yeah i understand that.. what i'm asking is if a full backup (of registry and all) will really work, when i'm restoring it on an updated ROM. Cause that updated ROM would presumably have updated registry values.. then i'd be restoring some old registry values on top of it, etc...
someone have some thoughts on this? or what's worked and what hasn't?
racerx_ said:
yeah i understand that.. what i'm asking is if a full backup (of registry and all) will really work, when i'm restoring it on an updated ROM. Cause that updated ROM would presumably have updated registry values.. then i'd be restoring some old registry values on top of it, etc...
someone have some thoughts on this? or what's worked and what hasn't?
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While I think most will agree that the cleanest method is to reinstall all apps after a hard reset/rom upgrade, Sprite does have an option for backing up your system before a rom upgrade...personally I don't do it.
racerx_ said:
yeah i understand that.. what i'm asking is if a full backup (of registry and all) will really work, when i'm restoring it on an updated ROM. Cause that updated ROM would presumably have updated registry values.. then i'd be restoring some old registry values on top of it, etc...
someone have some thoughts on this? or what's worked and what hasn't?
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Absolutely!
An example. I performed a full SPB backup after installing everthing onto mUn's wm6 rom the otherday. Then lvsw released his. So i installed his ROM, tested it a bit and activesync etc worked fine. Then I installed the backup (including registry) from mUn's rom and it changed a lot of things. removed some programs, etc. The activesync was not working anymore, just like on mUn's rom. Basically a full backup replaces all the folders including windows folder, so all software loaded into the ROM will be deleted and replaced. For some reason they dont try and merge the folders. Anyway. My point is that it is a very messy way to do things to install a full registry backup on a new updated ROM. It is absolutely fine on the same rom, and my backup proved very time-saving when I moved back to mUn's.
thanks for that.. just what i was wondering..
so, on a totally separate thought (hope it's ok to post here), does anyone know how to extract cab files from installers.. cause some of my programs only have windows .exe files.. it would speed up the re-instatement of my pda if i had everything on cab files, since a full backup isn't gonna do it.
racerx_ said:
thanks for that.. just what i was wondering..
so, on a totally separate thought (hope it's ok to post here), does anyone know how to extract cab files from installers.. cause some of my programs only have windows .exe files.. it would speed up the re-instatement of my pda if i had everything on cab files, since a full backup isn't gonna do it.
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On your PC go to: Program Files\Microsoft ActiveSync.
So basically I understand that to make a backup of the programs to be used on a newer WM6 rom, I would need to backup also the registry of the current rom, but this by itself can lead to preserving bugs in the current ROM.
Is there a way other than installing cab files, to make this easier?? I'm interested mostly in backing up the SKYSCAPE medical appplications I currently have installed. Some of these apps are 50MB sized, and it takes lots of time to install them. Is there a way to backup these programs that do not affect essential functions (like phone, today screen)??
Is there a way other than installing cab files, to make this easier??
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look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1251367&postcount=1
SPB POCKET BACKUP 1.6
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/backup/?en
Should support WM06.
Nadavi
KamaL said:
So basically I understand that to make a backup of the programs to be used on a newer WM6 rom, I would need to backup also the registry of the current rom, but this by itself can lead to preserving bugs in the current ROM.
Is there a way other than installing cab files, to make this easier?? I'm interested mostly in backing up the SKYSCAPE medical appplications I currently have installed. Some of these apps are 50MB sized, and it takes lots of time to install them. Is there a way to backup these programs that do not affect essential functions (like phone, today screen)??
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Kamal- unfortunately you can't restore any Skyscape products after a ROM update, because the Device ID changes each time (unlike Mobipocket/Handheldmed, where the PID stays the same). You can get new reg codes via the Skyscape website, but it is better to do a full reinstall of the Reader application each time. The basic Data folder (which is the large one, as you say) will remain on the SD card whatever the ROM state.
So, you are back to square one, in that you shouldn't apply a Restore after a ROM update, unless you are just reinstalling the same ROM version. Restores only restore the contents of the Storage memory- they don't affect files in ROM (ie a restore prompts a soft reset, not a hard reset)
The Sprite ROM update option is buggy and difficult to execute. You have to take an image of the device before the ROM update, then do the update, then run another program which compares the contents of the current ROM and the previous Backup, then supposedly only updates the changed files, ignoring the new ones. But reports I've seen suggest this is flakey at best, and that the contents of messaging folders gets corrupted.
If you are taking the trouble to do a ROM update, presumably to improve performance, it is better to do a full reinstall of your apps using cab files, or ActiveSync Add/Remove (except Skyscape products )
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Kamal- unfortunately you can't restore any Skyscape products after a ROM update, because the Device ID changes each time (unlike Mobipocket/Handheldmed, where the PID stays the same). You can get new reg codes via the Skyscape website, but it is better to do a full reinstall of the Reader application each time. The basic Data folder (which is the large one, as you say) will remain on the SD card whatever the ROM state.
So, you are back to square one, in that you shouldn't apply a Restore after a ROM update, unless you are just reinstalling the same ROM version. Restores only restore the contents of the Storage memory- they don't affect files in ROM (ie a restore prompts a soft reset, not a hard reset)
The Sprite ROM update option is buggy and difficult to execute. You have to take an image of the device before the ROM update, then do the update, then run another program which compares the contents of the current ROM and the previous Backup, then supposedly only updates the changed files, ignoring the new ones. But reports I've seen suggest this is flakey at best, and that the contents of messaging folders gets corrupted.
If you are taking the trouble to do a ROM update, presumably to improve performance, it is better to do a full reinstall of your apps using cab files, or ActiveSync Add/Remove (except Skyscape products )
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Thanks for the reply I didn't understand something about the Data folder on the storage card. Suppose I have 3-4 skyscape products installed on the stroage card, can I keep those folders and install only the viewer the next time I make a rom upgrade??
I'm not sure!
I tend to just run My Skyscape after each ROM upgrade- takes a couple of minutes to reinstall but I find its worth it. As the main data remains on the card, it might be worth just trying ActiveSync Add/Remove to reinstall the reader apps, though IIRC this didn't work on WM2003 as the newly installed reader wouldn't find the Data
But, Skyscape do seem to have imprpved their installers recently (despite the awful SmartUpdate app!)
I tried sprite backup and it crashed on faman fr rom... anyone use it ?
Hi all, Did anyone try to restore the diamond with Spb backup 2.0 with the "rom upgrade" function? I've update my diamond from hTC_Asia_HK_WWE_1.34.831.1_52.24.25.08_0.93.25_Ship to hTC_Asia_WWE_1.37.707.1_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.26a.25.09_1.00.25.03_Ship
But after I restore with spb, it's success but when I check the rom version in setting, everythings is upgrade but only the rom version is still 1.34.831.1, but the cht is change to wwe.
Did I just ignore it (coz I'm sure I'm successful upgrade b4 I restore the backup file)? Or my backup file restore everything??
Pls help I'm really no ideas..... Thank you so much!
any ideas?
9up said:
Hi all, Did anyone try to restore the diamond with Spb backup 2.0 with the "rom upgrade" function? I've update my diamond from hTC_Asia_HK_WWE_1.34.831.1_52.24.25.08_0.93.25_Ship to hTC_Asia_WWE_1.37.707.1_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.26a.25.09_1.00.25.03_Ship
But after I restore with spb, it's success but when I check the rom version in setting, everythings is upgrade but only the rom version is still 1.34.831.1, but the cht is change to wwe.
Did I just ignore it (coz I'm sure I'm successful upgrade b4 I restore the backup file)? Or my backup file restore everything??
Pls help I'm really no ideas..... Thank you so much!
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You should not restore all the system data from your backup files as it will "overwrite" the system files in your upgraded rom and that is what it is happening and shows in your device info. You should only restore your PIM data, i.e. contacts, emails, messages, appts after an upgrade. You are lucky that the device is not corrupted and functioning OK.
To resolve this, do a hard reset to get back to your upgraded rom 1.37.7.0.1 (yes, it is still lying there in your device) and this time do a PIM restore only and everything will be fine! Cheers
Thanks and I know that..... just want to be lazy to to one step to restore all information and program, although I've choose the "rom upgrade" to restore, but still cannot make it. Only retore all the pim information and have to install all back about the program....
Anyway, thanks a lot!
so = it is not possible to restore all programs after rom upgrade at all??
I think so...... but did anyone try another backup program? like resco backup and also sprite backup? I remember those software have the rom upgrade things to choose, anyone tried?
mmm on Spb site there is
Control your data restoration!
* Can be restored after ROM upgrade (ROM upgrade mode)
* Can be restored on another device (device upgrade mode)
* Self-extracting executable backup files
* Selectable items to restore
* Separate text message (SMS) restoring
* The backup file can be explored with the desktop unpack tool
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it could be very interesting restoring apps after upgrades...
Well, I've tried SPB Backup 2.0 ROM upgrade mode a few times (approx 4 times). I had no issues with that and I did not loose any information. Although I haven't checked version information like you. I've always forced ROM upgrade mode in options.
I can say that for quick testing new ROMs this method is a big help. But based on the advices of the experts you should build up your new environment from scratch if you decided which ROM to live along with. Cheers.
yes~ did run normally if restore with rom upgrade mode! but seems it's restore all back from the old file coz the rom details didn't change..... after hard reset then show back the new rom version. I guess it just restore all back from old rom I guess....
i've settled on using spb backup 2 for the PIM info (also restores photo contacts to TF3D), and Sashimi for programs/preferences... works pretty well and fast
what is "sashimi"?
SASHIMI is an app that can do automated installs of cab files, .reg files, and a whole bunch of other stuff to get your device back how you want it after a flash.
you can find the thread here
SASHIMI 6.5beta is out and I am interested in feedback from Diamond users.
I believe that the Auto Install to Storage Card will now work with Internal Storage.
I need Diamond users to test and confirm.
Post in the SASHIMI thread with any issues:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2476481&postcount=382