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I didn't find here the pinout description of 2,5mm jack connector from XDA2.
There is stereo out, microphone in and two buttons.
I tried to buy 2,5mm connector, but it is not usable - connector itself fits to the XDA2, but the connector's body is too thick so the connector can not be fully plugged in.
So i bought some Nokia portable handsfree, which is also equipped with 2,5mm jack with four pins. So all i need is to know, how it should be connected.
I also bought a small plastic box, two 3,5mm stereo females and two little buttons. All of those things will be installed into that tiny box (plus the Nokia 2,5mm male connector). So this will work as an universal adaptor: from XDA2 to anything. I already bought big HiFi earphones with built-in microphone - it has two male 3,5mm jacks - one for stereosound, second for the microphone - so I'll be able to connect it to the XDA2 using my homemade tiny box and HiFi telephoning will become the reality ;-))
I'd also like to make a "homemade" simple car handsfree : I'll connect XDA's audio out to AudioIn on my car audio (also suitable for playing MP3 from XDA on car audio system). And I'll connect a standalone external microphone to XDA, microphone will be placed somewhere in the cabine.
Does it sound insane? Or realistic? Does anybody know the XDA2 jack pinout?
http://xda-developers.com/connectors/
this is xda1 but they are suppose to be able to use the same headphones
so it would help a bit
even though the xda1 dont support the 2 button thingy
Hey, as I trashed my cable I had to find out a little bit about the connecter
I write this from memory, so please handle with care ;-) :
from top to bottom
top ring - stereo out (left or right)
next ring - stereo out (right or left)
next - microphone in
next - ground
metallic ring in the inside of the connector - phone switch
By the way.. these pins are protect versus each other.. you'll have some tries..
Alex
The truth is that I can use the system connector instead of the 2,5mm jack.
AudioOut and MicrophoneIn pins are on the system connector as well...
So meybe I'll make SystemConnector-to-3,5mmJack adaptor ;-)
Or is there a difference?
Ehm..I had simply buyed a 2,5 to 3,5 Jack and cut a piece of it to fit into phone:
unapproachable2kx said:
Ehm..I had simply buyed a 2,5 to 3,5 Jack and cut a piece of it to fit into phone:
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Well, OK. But it is only a stereo out, you don't have a microphone in. I'd like both of them plus those two buttons (red and green phone button)...
http://pc-mobile.net/pxdaa.htm
this one have the mic but dont support the pickup and slam down of the phone
So meybe I'll make SystemConnector-to-3,5mmJack adaptor
Or is there a difference?
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well if you wanted to connect something else to the sysconnector you would not be able to connect something like charger or GPS
then imho it would make more sence using the 2.5 connection which cant be used for anything but sound anyway
Well, I am looking for such a device, but then one that will work with the XDA2/MDA2
Because I would like to use my own B&O headset, but would like to keep the phone function with microphone and answer buttons
So if somebody would like to spend an hour on the web for a detailed surch :wink:
make it your self...
takes less than 30 minutes (if you know how to use a solder iron)
I did it and I am trulty happy with it.
Alex
but is it not a problem that the lengh of the 3.5mm headset get added to the length of the wire from the device to the buttons and mic
i mean the mic need to be able to reach ones mough but the lenght from ones mouth to ones ears are not that long and with the added 3.5 mm headset lenght it would seme to become a wire mess?
Yes and No...
Yes if you do nothing.
No if you wrap it up a little.
well if you wrap the wire you will create a coil line effect
and that damage audio quality
just kidding i'm not a real audiophile
It seems that info in xda-developers.com/connectors/ is aplicable to XDA I.
XDAII headset has 2 buttons, answer and finish.
I'm specially interested in the 22pin pinout, that I've told IS DIFFERENT from the XDA I.
Can anybody point me with updated info on XDA II conneectors?
Thanks
vcp
xant give the wiring of the 2.5mm on the xda2 in this thread
about the 22pin connector then
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=3929&highlight=22pin+pinout
Xant said:
from top to bottom
top ring - stereo out (left or right)
next ring - stereo out (right or left)
next - microphone in
next - ground
metallic ring in the inside of the connector - phone switch
Alex
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Alex,
This is correct. The XDA II uses 5 pins instead of four. The switches are both connected to the 5th ring on the inside.
Until now, I wasn't able to find this connector.
Seems it's only used on the XDA II.
The diagram of the XDA I connector is correct, only the button isn't connected over the microphone to ground. So if you only need audio and mike, use that schematic.
Grtz,
Jos
Hi,
I want to connect an external speaker and microphone to my Qtek9090. I thought the easiest way to do it is to simply cut the headset wire, plug the 2.5mm connector in and connect my speaker and mic to those wires. I have taken apart the headset that comes with it and there's the following wires in it:
wire1:
- blue
- copper(1)
- red
- red/green
wire2:
- white
- copper(2)
From taking apart the volume slider I think blue and copper(1) are the wires for the audio (L&R). But I'm not sure. I can't figure out what the mic and ground wires are :?
Does anyone know more? Anyone tried looking at this?
Grtz,
DUTCH
just feed a low level audio signal to the wires. You should distinguish left and right. The remaining one must be the mic....
or...
buy an adapter. Both expansys and proporta.com sell adapters.
Nigel
I've been searching for those adapters and found many. The only problem is: none of them have a microphone connector :? .
Now I might have an option here, but i'm not sure this one suits the Qtek9090 (Blue Angel) I have: if I use this one. I could connect my speakers to the stereo 3.5mm headphone jack and my microphone to the mono 3.5mm headset jack.
The only thing is: what part of the headset connector is the microphone? The tip?
Grtz,
DUTCH
Blue Angle Plug
Tip Mic +
Band 1 Audio Right +
Band 2 Audio Left +
Base Common Earth (-)
Headset Lead
Wire 1
White Mic +
Shield Mic -
Wire 2
Red Audio Right +
Red/Green trace Audio Left +
Plain copper Earth (-)
Blue Earth (-)
NOTE
This is not the same as it was on the Himalaya.
Therefore no adapter or headset made for the Himalaya will work with the Blue Angle.
Do you know if it's compatible with nokia headset ?
like this one :
Nokia HDD1 : http://www.nokia.com/cda13/0,5184,733,00.html
bye
Emanuele
No, I've tried with a Nokia wired headset and it didn't work at all.
I ordered the audio connector mentioned (this one).
When recording a note for example everything works just fine, BUT when in 'phone mode' (making a phone call) it doesn't work.
Anyone got a clue/solution for this? Or should I start thinking about making this work via the 22-pin connector?
Grtz,
DUTCH
9090 should support audio from the bottom connector. I assume you want to use it in your car. If you want to connect a external speaker you should amplify the signal. There is a DIY carkit on http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/Connectors . Maybe this could be handy. Also my phone supplier told me that in about a week there will be a complete carkit WITH decent Carcomm cradle and GPS connection (all wired so no BT connections needed). I will buy this when it is released so will keep you guys updated.
if I use this one. I could connect my speakers to the stereo 3.5mm headphone jack and my microphone to the mono 3.5mm headset jack.
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I purchased this one for my old TMobile xda I and the Blue Angel.
Both are headphone jacks and niether cna be used for a mic. There is a built in mic and mute button (that you have to hold)
Raptor
Anyone interested in this topic to advice to make our own Headset
Count me in
I would be interested. The headset supplied is not very good: the earpieces don't stay in place to get the best sound and the wires are to 'wirey', ie they're not soft enough, and they don't lay straight.
I had seen before someone had taken the Nokia hands-free headphones (similar to the Universals, with a central piece with a mic and button on) and they manages to fit a tiny 2.5mm stereo socket in it, so any standard headphones would plug in. But on the Universals, I don't think there's room.
www.remtrak.com sell 4-way Jack Plugs (3.5MM Angled or Straight) so we could feasibly manufacture our own, with the corrct pin out.
L, R, GND, Mic - But which is which?!
I have an old 80's BT Viscount Handset removed from it's phone base and itching for headset duties. . .
shaju said:
Anyone interested in this topic to advice to make our own Headset
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Instead of making one how about one of these?
http://pc-mobile.net/pxuaa.htm
Matt
I don't see how that helps me hook up a Pokia, Novophone, or connect my own home-made devices. But good link for Non-Geeks!
Any adaptors that will allow me to use proper 3.5 inch headphone jack in place of the mini USB ones ( i dont like the in ear phones) checked ebay and couldnt see anything?
you want get one of these http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=142090 - Mike
Ouch, that thing is both horribly badly designed and prohibitively expensive- it's going to stick out what looks like an inch by itself, most headphone plugs will add another inch on top of that- I need something that fits flush with the bottom of the phone (comes out at a right angle) AND supplies an input for the charger. One can only dream!
The orbit would make a great on-mains Wifi internet radio if such a gubbin existed- hook up some speakers, start TCPMP, sorted!
in which case if you don't like wires stop messing around and get a set of A2DP compatible headphones - the quality is very good, but far more costly than a cable addaptor - the choice is yours - Mike
Might have been worth while if I didn't use an iPod for all my portable audio needs- have you seen any A2DP compatible speakers around?
Looks like there are hacks out there, but no official products, the combination really would just turn the Orbit into an incredibly expensive Wifi radio! But where's the fun in just going out and buying a proper one!
Have a look at the products made by Parrot there are a few Bluetooth audio add on boxes, I fail to see the relevance to WiFi?? as the A2DP profile is Bluetooth - it even works on the T-Mobile MDA-CIII which has no WiFi - Mike
I say wifi radio because I listen to internet radio stations around the house using the Orbit, and the ol' tinternet comes via the wifi doohickey!
A2DP is, of course, a bluetooth profile and would be the method over which I get decent sounding audio from the Orbit to some speakers whilst still having the Orbit plugged into mains so the battery doesn't get sucked dry... that said I think the Orbit will last a good few hours streaming internet radio, although I have yet to put that to the test.
My other solution would be, as mentioned above, an adaptor that allows both the charger AND headset to be plugged in- I can't see this as being technically impossible.
With a brief cursory investigation I have discovered, I think, that the headset uses a proprietary 6-pin connection on the opposite side of the mini-usb connector. The headphones do not use the 4-pin standard mini-usb connector on the other side, but a connector that uses both should be reasonably simple to produce. Ergo it should be childs play for a third party to produce an Artemis dock that contains not only a connection to USB but a standard 3.5mm amplified microphone socket alongside a standard 3.5mm amplified stero audio jack... not to mention a button on the front of the dock for picking up calls and a volume slider if you really wanted them.
Call me crazy, but I want one of those!
You could try this
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=145066
Might do the trick even if it is a bit long
Rich
Dear lord! You've made my day! Hmmm, a little jiggery pokery and I might even be able to incorporate that into a dock but it'll be fantastic for charging and listening to net radio at work- takes that little extra load off my desktop PC.
Cheers!
Glad I could help
richiev4 said:
You could try this
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=145066
Might do the trick even if it is a bit long
Rich
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Hi,
Does anyone know if the above would work with a set of mini stereo speakers with a 3.5mm headphone jack (like the walkman speakers i used to have, back in the day...) to listen to the FM radio while charging the phone from mains? Or would you still need the headphones plugged into get any FM reception?
Daft question maybe, but I wondered whether the device would just use the speaker wires as an antenna instead of the headphone wires?
It will work fine, I am going to use mine to connect my orbit to my home stereo and charge it at the same time.
Rich
2.5mm 3 pole jack plug
Hi,
Anybody know of an Artemis mini usb to 2.5mm 3 pole jack plug adapter which allows the connection to deliver audio and microphone capability ?
I would like to connet my Artemis/Orbit to the Autocom intercom system on my motorcycle . This uses a lead with a 2.5mm jack plug at the phone end and a 3.5mm jack at the Autocom system end. Both are 3 pole.
Thanks
P.S. hope you don't mind me jumping in your postings
http://www.expansys.com/s.aspx
try doing a search for "2.5mm"
A very good Items for the Artemis on EbaY :
look :
http://cgi.ebay.fr/FOR-ORANGE-SPV-E...ryZ14419QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
2.5mm 3 pole jack plug adatper
I think I've found exactly what I'm looking for at:
http://igonemobile.com/products/html/61315310.html
I've got one on order and I'll let you know if it works.
cegmawr said:
Hi,
Anybody know of an Artemis mini usb to 2.5mm 3 pole jack plug adapter which allows the connection to deliver audio and microphone capability ?
I would like to connet my Artemis/Orbit to the Autocom intercom system on my motorcycle . This uses a lead with a 2.5mm jack plug at the phone end and a 3.5mm jack at the Autocom system end. Both are 3 pole.
Thanks
P.S. hope you don't mind me jumping in your postings
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Is this so you can listen to music from the Orbit? I've had difficulty on my bike with this...music cuts out and wont restart after phone call is over. In the end, I bought the Autocom bluetooth dongle and now bluetooth the Orbit to the bike. I get phone calls and GPS just fine, but I use a wired iPod for music.
cegmawr said:
I think I've found exactly what I'm looking for at:
http://igonemobile.com/products/html/61315310.html
I've got one on order and I'll let you know if it works.
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Does this support the Artemis? It isn't in the list....
There was a posting for the mini USB PinOut some Time ago. Look in the wiki Section to find it. Here is what they showed up with.
Maybe This will Help someone to build their own Adapter or whatsoever.
Greetings
Jabami
so what was the general concensus with using Autocom? Did the 2.5mm jack work?
I want to avoid using the bluetooth option on autocom, since I might just as well go for a Scala bluetooth headset instead if the jack doesnt work...
Hi - I'd like to splice a decent pair of headphones into a usb plug to use on an o2 xda orbit - will this work and does anyone know whats what. I know you can buy adapters but that's not what I want. It'd be handy to know what one was the fm aerial too.
Thanks
Me
Have a look at the wiki, and You will find this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284512
Hope that helps, but never ask me where You can get such connector from
I think, the better way is, to open the mic-housing, and to replace the generic headphones with a 3.5mm stereo jack
USB Pinout
Hi, be advised that the USB port is digital only, the digital to analog converter is integrated in the small mic/volume/phone button box on the cable. so, if you want another headset open the box or cut the wires.
Hi!
Try this accessory from HTC, I think it is a better solution.
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=145150
Regards,
PK