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With all the different WM6 ROMs now available is it possible to have some sort of advanced listing with comparison of the varies differences in the ROMs? It's really confusing to find the ROM that contains the right features
Also is there a "clean" or vanilla WM6?
That's an excellent idea jpless, I look forward to what you come up with.
Well it's gonna take some time And I'm only doing WWE for the time being.
But some links to the threads would be helpfull
Please pardon my ignorance. I have tried to work out what is going on here for the last couple of months, hoping that it would finally just click. could someone please explain to me what all these ROM's are. So I have an HTC touch diamond with the standard ROM (from the last update, i think 1.9xxxxxx cant remember). With all these 'ROM' developments what more do you get out of the phone. Do you guys still use the TouchFlo 3D? What is HARD-spl? Is it worth changing the ROM? There seems to be a lot of ROM's, how do i know which is the best 1 to use? I feel like i have so many more questions, but please could someone just outline what it is all about.
please excuse my ignorance. I have tried looking it up but i still dont understand so pardon me for taking shortcuts.
Thanks
Tony
All the wisdom of the world in a single link: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Diamond
i don't see how pointing him ti the wiki will answer any of his questions. that thing is as old as the diamond itself.
ROMs are the data image on your phone. the read only memory that includes sys, xip, wm6.1 and tf3d plus all the component packages in a ppc. all the ones floating around here are tweaked and updated by people to work the way they want them to, with suggestions by the testers.
they are all basically the same.
they are based on official htc releases and updated to the latest operating bits from other devices, then shared with us.
its up to you to find what works best on your device in your locale and for your specific needs. you don't have to read entire threads, just the last few pages or from the date that the latest one was released by that cook.
hard spl is a phone condom to keep people from bricking their phone. it is required and very important. i suggest developers edition so you can flash any rom you want.
and yes, flashing a cooked rom is very worth it, but i warn you, once you start you can't stop.
i can't tell you which is the best, i do know what are my favorites, but the journey you will take finding that perfect rom is very rewarding.
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i don't see how pointing him ti the wiki will answer any of his questions. that thing is old as the diamond itself.
ROMs are the data image on your phone. the read only memory that includes sys, xip, wm6.1 and tf3d plus all the component packages in a ppc. all the ones floating around here are tweaked and updated by people to work the way they want them to, with suggestions by the testers.
they are all basically the same.
they are based on official htc releases and updated to the latest operating bits from other devices, then shared with us.
its up to you to find what works best on your device in your locale and for your specific needs. you don't have to read entire threads, just the last few pages or from the date that the latest one was released by that cook.
hard slp is a phone condom to keep people from bricking their phone. it is required and very important. i suggest developers edition so you can flash any rom you want.
and yes, flashing a cooked rom is very worth it, but i warn you, once you start you can't stop.
i can't tell you which is the best, i do know what are my favorites, but the journey you will take finding that perfect rom is very rewarding.
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thank you very much
you have answered exactly what i wanted to know.
I'll give it a look into. Oh, and 1 other thing. If I have applications installed on my phone already, i presume after putting a 'cooked ROM' on it will remove all installed applications? Wouldnt bother me too much, just my TomTom navigation is a HUGE mission to get going. I suppose im on holiday and have time to fiddle.
tonypony said:
thank you very much
you have answered exactly what i wanted to know.
I'll give it a look into. Oh, and 1 other thing. If I have applications installed on my phone already, i presume after putting a 'cooked ROM' on it will remove all installed applications? Wouldnt bother me too much, just my TomTom navigation is a HUGE mission to get going. I suppose im on holiday and have time to fiddle.
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Everything in the Device is erased when you flash a ROM. Stuff in the Internal Storage stays the same.
By da way you can also flash Radios.
Greets.
have a look here as this helped me alot
[TUT]Complete upgrading guide (HardSPL+Radio+ROM) NOT FOR CDMA USERS!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=416211
tonypony said:
thank you very much
you have answered exactly what i wanted to know.
I'll give it a look into. Oh, and 1 other thing. If I have applications installed on my phone already, i presume after putting a 'cooked ROM' on it will remove all installed applications? Wouldnt bother me too much, just my TomTom navigation is a HUGE mission to get going. I suppose im on holiday and have time to fiddle.
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pretty much all apps for ppc can be found in .cab form. this is for easy installation and removal. if you choose a full rom you will get all stock htc apps, but a lite rom is bare bones. keep your collection of cabs on your internal storage for quick re-installation after flashing. also keep a backup of your cabs on your pc.
glad this helps
i didn't want anyone here to tell you RTFM or link you to search page. THAT REALLY GRINDS MY GEARS. ha lol
Blazeitup123 said:
pretty much all apps for ppc can be found in .cab form. this is for easy installation and removal. if you choose a full rom you will get all stock htc apps, but a lite rom is bare bones. keep your collection of cabs on your internal storage for quick re-installation after flashing. also keep a backup of your cabs on your pc.
glad this helps
i didn't want anyone here to tell you RTFM or link you to search page. THAT REALLY GRINDS MY GEARS. ha lol
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ya i can relate to that. Im also quite a forum junkie and I cant stand it when people direct me to search engines. Even on my local PS3 forum people always help out. Thanks to all for your help. Much appreciated.
So if I want to flash a ROM on my phone I just have to sift through the 1's here that are available. Do you guys recommend any? ie. one's that have few problems.
Typically the rom you get with the phone is a generic one, not too fast, full of feature and there to please everybody.
A cooked rom normally strips things down or tunes the device to a specific need. some roms remove as much as they can to give you more ram. Great for those of us who browse the web.
Others load them with more features so you never want for anything.
Others are generic but more upto date. The problem with official roms is they are updated and then go into testing for months and months then get released.
a custom rom will take updated drivers from other devices (like the HD) and place them into our roms with around a weeks testing or less. so we get them sooner. This does have its drawbacks.
A custom rom can be less stable than an official one. but you can get lucky. Duttys 3.6b is a good mix. Its faster than the stock rom, has more features but more memory as the rubbish is removed.
In the past 2 days I have learnt how to cook my own rom, which is the dream situation. I get rid of everything I dont want like Cyberon, transcriber, ringtones and other stuff. SO I have loads of storage free but also add in the software I use the most.
I now have the fastest rom I have ever used and its perfect beacause its tailor made by me, for me. Its really not that hard.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=413782
I don't understand why people do so...
What's wrong with the default ROM that the device was released on? I'm new to all this and I want to know what's so hot about flashing to a new ROM? Is it basically just a different theme for the device? Or is it specific applications that you need/want because it's cool to have?
Someone let me know what's so good about it because from reading the forum all of this stuff is confusing! HDSPL, SSPL and all that...huh??? Lol
I'm new to all of this and I just want some information because I'm looking forward to getting the new TP2 for T-Mobile. Maybe if I get a better idea why you guys do it and how do you do it, I can learn and do these myself when I get my TP2.
Thanks guys!
Well
On my experience cooked ROM´s by our great chefs here are always much better than the custom ROM´s
They include stuff/apps/ etc. that normally is not included by default.
Actually if this site with their great chefs wouldn´t exist WM OS would be bad as hell!
So the best way is to read the Wiki to understand all the terms and procedures and then try one cooked ROM by yourself, you won´t regret!!
I think that for tp2 there is not yet any cooked ROM, but sure they will apear soon! (if not already )
Orb is correct check out the Rom section and read the "stickies" for further flashing details
Aight cool, thanks for the replies guys.
orb3000 said:
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On my experience cooked ROM´s by our great chefs here are always much better than the custom ROM´s
They include stuff/apps/ etc. that normally is not included by default.
Actually if this site with their great chefs wouldn´t exist WM OS would be bad as hell!
So the best way is to read the Wiki to understand all the terms and procedures and then try one cooked ROM by yourself, you won´t regret!!
I think that for tp2 there is not yet any cooked ROM, but sure they will apear soon! (if not already )
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I think WM still would be great without chefs doing what they do. I mean WM6.5 looks great and WM6.1 is good. Yeah the older WM was horrible! Lol
I will probably get a different ROM only for apps because WM6.5 looks great and should run great like I said. Other then that I'm not interested really!
Hi, as the title suggests. I'm overwhelmed with all the choices and would like to know where to search/start if I would want to fully customize my Touch HD, I've downloaded the manilla editor so far, and i see a few pages full of icons, themes, clocks etc. new manilla/old manilla, which I'm actually unsure about. I'm currently using the latest official HTC EU Blackstone rom, and am not sure weather it is worthwile upgrading it to something better, any suggestions ?, stabilty is what would be the deciding factor, or do I just just customize the existing 6.1 operating system with pimped out clocks /menus and themes ?, I'd like to be able to open calender and other WM menus without it looking like I'm stepping back in time as far as page layout and presentation, do I need a custom rom for this or is this just done with my existing rom, with a cab file ?. Oh, and is there any chance of me bricking the phone with messing around with these themes or is that just with reflashing the rom ?. I realise that some of these questions may seem obvious though, I'm a total noob at this, not stupid just a first timer. Any help would be much appreciated !!, Thanks in advance !!, Nick.
first, let me say welcome to the forms. like you, we were once in your shoes. my response is probably not what you want to hear, but i will give my opinion/suggestion anyway (thanks for reading).
my suggestion is to educate yourself on the common terms used in the forums (e.g., Manila, CFC, ROM, bootloader), browse/read the links in my signature, read the threads that will help you achieve your goals, read the stickies, ROM threads, etc. the info is there and it will take a while to absorb and understand. it's a bit unrealistic to think that we'll guide you through an entire process via posts to your help request thread. if you're willing to do the homework it will pay benefits (e.g., you'll be able to pimp/customize your device to your desire)!
since you have to start somewhere, pick a feature you want to learn/customize, read the stickies, understand the methods and tools (the first post of each tool thread contains reasonably good instructions), try it, once you've successfully completed the task move to the next subject (e.g., create manila backgrounds & icons and then move to flashing your device). if you run into problems ask for help in an appropriate thread/sticky and you'll likely get a faster response/answer.
in my opinion (and i'm not implying this is your perspective) to do the things you want to do can be overwhelming if you want to do it right now and quick. this my friend is a sure way to get yourself in trouble. if you're patient, you'll get there. members will help where they can.
you should also know that the moderators are trying to reign in the "help me/what's the best ROM/what's the best theme/how do i flash my device" threads that occur on a daily basis. so don't be disappointed if your thread is closed.
good luck and i hope you have fun along the way!
naa77 said:
Hi, as the title suggests. I'm overwhelmed with all the choices and would like to know where to search/start if I would want to fully customize my Touch HD, I've downloaded the manilla editor so far, and i see a few pages full of icons, themes, clocks etc. new manilla/old manilla, which I'm actually unsure about. I'm currently using the latest official HTC EU Blackstone rom, and am not sure weather it is worthwile upgrading it to something better, any suggestions ?, stabilty is what would be the deciding factor, or do I just just customize the existing 6.1 operating system with pimped out clocks /menus and themes ?, I'd like to be able to open calender and other WM menus without it looking like I'm stepping back in time as far as page layout and presentation, do I need a custom rom for this or is this just done with my existing rom, with a cab file ?. Oh, and is there any chance of me bricking the phone with messing around with these themes or is that just with reflashing the rom ?. I realise that some of these questions may seem obvious though, I'm a total noob at this, not stupid just a first timer. Any help would be much appreciated !!, Thanks in advance !!, Nick.
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The first limiting/deciding factor on what and how much you can "pimp" your phone, is the rom you are using. You need to check which version you have (if stock it should be wm6.1 and then you also need to know what manila version you have.) To get your manila version, go to the Settings Tab in your manila and at the bottom under About it should show you (again on stock it may only be 1.xx)
You may want to start out with a few simple tweaks, such as adding taskbars and slider icons and a few wallpapers and clocks (most of which you can do via cabs available (these are then uninstallable). There are also some complete themes you can apply (even to stock) Dusk being one of them.
Taking a different slant, Id' probably spend a week flashing lots of different ROMs, to experience what's possible visually/program-wise. Try some 6.1s, some 6.5s, some Manilla 2.1s/2.5s/2.6(soon!) to see which types you favour, and many of the ROMs come with their own backgrounds/taskbars etc. etc.
You might find one that, with a little tweaking, is exactly what you want, or at least you might get some ideas for your own creation.
Good luck!
Hey Thanks !! , just needed a lil steering in the right direction. Will check out the links and have a go, (was just unsure about weather to go down the flash rom path first or change theme or touch flo first). I realised that there was a chance moderators could od deleted post but took the chance
Hi guys,
I have recently just purchased AT&T Tilt 2 and it is my first HTC as well as my first WM phone. Prior to this purchase, I have been using kids phone like sony ericsson walkman and stuff like that. I was wondering, what are some apps that is a MUST HAVE for the rhodium? What apps can I download to make my tilt 2 run more smoothly? What can i do to make it run more smoothly? Also, What is HARD SPL? and what is flashing?
Thanks in advance for all inputs!!
I cant wait till i get my tilt 2, delivery should take about a week.
Cheers
Welcome to the windows party!
How do you know if you need to speed it up if you don't even have it yet! At least experience it first hand...
HardSPL is a tool that allows you to flash ROMs to your phone that AT&T didn't supply (Such as a ROM direct from HTC, or a custom rom written by one of the great people here at XDA). Without HardSPL, the only ROM that you can apply to your Tilt2 would be from AT&T.
Must have apps depend on your interests. Some people might like a certain app while others could care less for it. There is a lot out there, and thankfully there is now the App Store that you can browse apps yourself and see what is out there. Look through different roms as well and see the apps that people include there. And feel free to search to your hearts content, using the site and using google. There is a lot of information out there.
As for just getting started here, visit the WIKI page for the Rhodium over at wiki.xda-developers.com as it is a great getting started site. Also tilt2.blownfuze.org is a nice place to get started as well with your new phone.
Jason
hi myrandex, thank you very much for the reply. I have been obsessed over this phone for a few months now and finally saved enough money to purchase one. So i have been reading a little bit about this phone and noticed a general consensus about it having lags and stuff so thats why i asked about apps to make it more smooth.
Sorry as I am complete new and ignorant to WM ... but is the benefit of flashing ROMs to your phone and what exactly does it do? and what is the difference between flashing ROMs and the ROMs that AT&T supplied?
And as for the apps, i know their are tons of apps out there suited for different people and different needs. But i was wondering if there is some apps that are generally appreciated by rhodium users and are considered a 'must haves' for every rhodium user. I remember reader about some apps that allows you to run your rhodium with lesser lag? Im not too sure.
And again, thank you very much for the inputs!
I am very happy and excited to join the WM community hehe. Just cant wait to get my hands on my tilt 2.
Cheers
I am just like you...
you could start here for the basics....
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=FAQ
gives a lot of info...
then in the ROM development thread.. start with the one for the noobs.. its a sticky..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550540
try and get as much info from here as possible.. then do your flashing..
good luck..
i too am new to WM, but i would say get use to your phone first before flashing. Once you flash, there might be bugs on the ROM that the chef (person who created the ROM) created and will need updates. Some ROM might clash with some apps and vice versa.
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/
Awesome site to find apps.
I suggest the following thread for software you should get: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550973&highlight=facebook&page=1
Hope that helps.