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Is it worth to upgrade from II to IIs? Comments please.

I am considering upgrading from XDA II to IIs and since the price is steep because it's new, can i have some suggestion from previous Himalaya owners who upgraded to Blue Angel? Is it worthwhile to upgrade or should i wait?
Pros and Cons would be good.
Thanks in advance
Cheers!

lazzy said:
I am considering upgrading from XDA II to IIs and since the price is steep because it's new, can i have some suggestion from previous Himalaya owners who upgraded to Blue Angel? Is it worthwhile to upgrade or should i wait?
Pros and Cons would be good.
Thanks in advance
Cheers!
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Shame you cant buy it here in the UK as a new contract moving your number with you as I only paid £49.99 here http://www.scancom.co.uk/customer/product.php?productid=17024
And although we were only XDA I owners I do think its well worth the upgrade so much better I find than an XDA I

if you need :
1. WIFI
2. Keyboard
3. a BLACK PDA PHONE
Then upgrade to IIs.
I won't upgrade to IIs because
1. It's even heavier than II
2. The larger capacity battery don't help much
3. WM2003SE not really as great as you think
4. I don't need WIFI.
5. Why upgrade to a device with the SAME CPU, SAME AMOUNT OF RAM, SAME SIZE, SAME SCREEN ?
I will upgrade to HTC Magician / XDA II Mini / Qtek S100 / T-Mobile MDA Compact / Dopod 818 / Imate Jam / whatever you like ..

killercheung said:
if you need :
1. WIFI
2. Keyboard
3. a BLACK PDA PHONE
Then upgrade to IIs.
I won't upgrade to IIs because
1. It's even heavier than II
2. The larger capacity battery don't help much
3. WM2003SE not really as great as you think
4. I don't need WIFI.
5. Why upgrade to a device with the SAME CPU, SAME AMOUNT OF RAM, SAME SIZE, SAME SCREEN ?
I will upgrade to HTC Magician / XDA II Mini / Qtek S100 / T-Mobile MDA Compact / Dopod 818 / Imate Jam / whatever you like ..
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1) Don't really need WiFi now cause Macau doesn't have WiFi spots at all.
2) Keyboard will help me a lot in replying my e-mails and once Blackberry is available.
3) Not too concern with the color.
I know the rest is the same but i believe the internal RAM now is 96MB instead of 64mb in XDA II?

Nope
Hi,
Just sold my new MDAIII (same HTC Blue Angel as XDAIIs), and will continue to use MDAII. This is why:
1. The screen on MDAII is dreadful (yellowish, lower contrast, tiny viewing angle, must be used at full brightness (I use MDAII at lowest level) to achieve barely acceptable picture which nullifies the advantage of the higher capacity battery)
2. Wifi will not connect to Wifi networks with hidden SSID (SANDISK sd wifi on MDAII does this without problem (using newest socket driver)- which incidentally also has marginally longer range).
3. Keyboard is much slower to use than on-screen one, not to mention SPB full screen keyboard
4. BT radio has about 20% shorter range than on MDAII (using BTGPS for network access)
5. Needs very frequent resets. Particularily when connecting to different wifi APs and when switching between BT Network access and wifi access(BluetoothGPS works much better on the MDAII)
Given that the industrious contibutors to this site have provided us with screen rotation functionality (SRS) (as well as BT network access), the MDAII is still my choice by a long shot.
BTW 1.7 rom upgrade also offers FAX support.
The only thing that I miss is the "single column" IE browsing mode, but I'm hoping that someone will solve that too.
Cheers,
Martin

Should have read: The screen on MDAIII is dreadful

Im a little shock with what people are saying here.
I have a Imate PDA2K and I must say it is perfect! I had a P800 before and the things the P800 didnt have was:
Wifi
Keyboard
and these two things make a big difference for me. I have wifi at home and checking email on that is just perfect. Download attachments without worries of GPRS prices. The Keyboard means I can ride a bike and type and email at the same time with one hand where you could not do that on a PDA without a keyboard.
Screen I thought is perfect, well on mine is.
BT works fine for me.
Much of a muchness!
buy what you need

I know the rest is the same but i believe the internal RAM now is 96MB instead of 64mb in XDA II
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xdaII have 128
xdaI's came first in a 32MB later a 64MB version
not sure if xdaIIs only have 96MB but i'm pretty sure it have 128 like the xdaII[/quote]

I've had an MDAIII for a few weeks now and I can honestly say that I prefer my XDAII - The XDAII was a giant leap from the XDA. The MDAIII is a very small step, has many bugs and a yellow screen - wifi and bluetooth don't work properly and the keyboard is nowhere near as good as my original Nokia communicator. I got my MDAIII for FREE - I would definately not be happy if I paid a lot of money for it. My advice to anyone thinking of 'upgrading' would be to wait for whatever replaces this model. Hopefully the next generation of these phones will be 3G and have faster processors and really get the benefit of being truly portable wireless machines.

That exactly reasons why I am not going XDA 3. Plus, I think design is just ugly. I am looking forward to see Magician in person

I know it's a mtter of personal taste, but I think that the look of the MDAIII is not as 'sexy' as the XDAII.

Rudegar said:
I know the rest is the same but i believe the internal RAM now is 96MB instead of 64mb in XDA II
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xdaII have 128
xdaI's came first in a 32MB later a 64MB version
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It's the ROM , not the RAM!
XDA II and IIs got 128M RAM.
However XDA IIs has more ROM then XDA II.
You'll have arround 15m ususable ROM STORAGE for XDA II, and 40m for XDA IIs.
With a XDA IIs, If you set 64m ram for storage , you'll have totally 100m for storage (64M Ram + 40M Rom).
The total rom size for XDA II is 64M, XDA IIs is 96M.

Spend time looking through the various issues posted here that are specific to the BlueAngel.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=13057&highlight=
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=12693&highlight=
Poor screen, random soft resets...for me, problems with the microphone while phoning force me to recommend another device. It was something not mentioned in any of the hardware reviews I read (1 such being http://www.infosyncworld.com/reviews/n/5530.html), begging the question do these guys actually use the device before writing their remarks?

Personally I am going to wait for the XDA IIi due out early next year. Faster processor, better camera are a couple of things that are worth waiting for. However, I won't know until its out and some feedback (such as this here) is available .

I'm definitely in the UPGRADE camp, running my II side by side with the matt black wonder that is the IIs. BT & WiFi (I used sandisk sd on II) work so much better on the IIs & BT finally works properly with car kits.
The screens on the ones we have are fine & the software is far more intuitive.
the IIi will simply be the IIs functionality in a II case, yawn! I can't get my head around the idea that the II is better looking either, mine looks as old fashioned to me now as the Xda did when the II came out.
just swapped to using the keyboard and not its biggest fan so can't recommend it for that (couldn't get shift to work, I might actually have read the manual) so back to stylus/soft keyboard.
The IIs is also a bit heavier but I'm prepared to get my trouser pockets reinforced! I honestly wouldn't be happy going back to the II

was able to try out the xda3 for a month; hated it and switched back to my xda2...whew good thing i didn't sell her. for my reasons; same as mentioned by the dudes in this thread with emphasis on the useless keyboard...among other things (no offense to those who did get an xda3)
for the xda2s; definitely i won't get this unit. i was in hong kong last week and i was able to play around it with it. sure wm se is great but other than that i didn't see much improvements as compared to the present xda2...which didn't really justify the price it came with (6980 HKD). i'd rather wait for the xda2i (which is rumored to have a faster processor and a 1.3 mp camera). or even better; i'd wait for the xda4 since it's rumored to come out next year around june / july...or end of the year.
cheers

As i noticed the Xda IIi doesn't have keyboard, which i need the most. What i need the most is Keyboard and Wifi what i don't need is the camera (stupid thing for me) and processor doesn't matter.
So it's up to each one of you, buy what you need. You can't say something bad when you don't need them. That's why O2 releases 2 models IIs and IIi, is for me and for you ...

i just sold my xda ii and got a xda iis last week
personally i feel that iis is stable than ii as i experienced "blank screen"+"hard reset" many times with ii, but i haven't got this problem so far with iis for almost a week now (installed same software).
i really feel wifi is good and battery consumption is much lower than what i expected when using wifi, minimum it is much better than the sony ux50 pda.

don't xda 2 s. suck's
after using xda2,
i found xda 2s,
verry bad like the screen its i think 50% dull than the xda2, I mean when u tilt the phone side way or up and down u can see the colour change from yellow to white, this never use to happen in xda2 and the colour quality is also bad am curseing my self why did I upgrade???T
he jabra bluetooth which worked fine with xda2 dosen't work well with 2s lot of hissing,
i am really unhappy with the screen quality,
so guy's and gal's stick to xda2 and pray that xda3 will have a crisp and clear screen and the bluetooth will work fine,

hi, All
This is my XDA II NOW :
1.72.181 + blackberry + O2 Asia Style
SRS + SwitchSR program (the latest version)
AppSuiteXDAII
IIWPO
cooked with some Extended ROM XDA IIs (Thank's to **applecom)
WMP 10 Skin :wink:
a lot of program installed !!
I think my device is still the best PDA phone and no need to change with XDA IIs
cheers !!

Overclocking Experience

Hi,
Just thought I'd post my experience on when I dabbed my hand at overclocking my XDA II. As I understand it overclocking your device will either work very well or very badly, with experience varying from user to user.
My experience was bad as oc'ing led my device to hard reset, and since then randomly hardreset and crash with the added issue of not being able to take the battery out for a short time without loosing all my data.
On the other hand my mate oc's his device and it appears very stable.
*Shrugs*

In reality whats THE POINT? Burnin ur device to its limits just for a wee tiny bit of extra power? The XDA IIs maybe be faster than the XDA but it only shows on Video! for me anyways!

As I understand it the IIs has the same specs as the II series but with more features.
My mate recently got a IIs as an insurance claim on his II and I noticed that 470 kb/s wmv appeared slightly jerky, possibly impaired frame rate, Where as the same video ran flawlessly on my device.
Maybe you mean speed in terms of the overall imporvements native with SE?
At the moment my device ( XDA II ) is running Windows Mobile 2003 SE and I've not looked back since installing it, as I'm experiencing over all improved speed having made the OS move.
I'm due for an upgrade in 2 weeks, can't decide if its worth getting the IIs or not....

How is your Artemis??

I have some quetion to ask.. since i'm going to purhcase this phone very soon.
1. How is the sound quality.. Ring volume.. good?, Loud?
2. Is their any lack or slow or bug errors ... in opening standard programs..
3. How is the GPS works? is this work well and fast?
4. Any other problems for this Artemis lately??
Thank you very much for your answer..
The reason is PPC, when is first launch always has some problem.. with normally can be fix by the next firmward, so i just want to make sure that this work well... (Not like ATOM when is first launched)

firstime911 said:
I have some quetion to ask.. since i'm going to purhcase this phone very soon.
1. How is the sound quality.. Ring volume.. good?, Loud?
2. Is their any lack or slow or bug errors ... in opening standard programs..
3. How is the GPS works? is this work well and fast?
4. Any other problems for this Artemis lately??
Thank you very much for your answer..
The reason is PPC, when is first launch always has some problem.. with normally can be fix by the next firmward, so i just want to make sure that this work well... (Not like ATOM when is first launched)
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1. Sound quality: I would give it a 3.5 out of 5. Reception is very good. Ring volume: excellent! Too loud for my taste in fact. I NEVER use the maximum setting because it is, well, too loud!!
2. Nothing significant regarding bugs. Speed is more than acceptable. I still cannot believe that it's using "only" a 200MHz CPU. It simply doesn't show. I guess this is due to excellent implementation on their part (AKU and all). Also it is VERY easy to overclock and get significant improvement (if you so desire...) but I haven't found this to be necessary.
3. The best GPS implementation I have ever seen. State of the art in my book.
4. I was looking to get Nokia N95 but I'm glad I didn't. HTC has hit the jackpot with this one I think.

I agree I hardly notice the difference between my shiny new XDA Orbit and my 2 yo XDA IIs, apart from not having to carry around a brick!
This was my biggest concern, top marks to HTC!

I have to say this thing blows the Exec out of the water. I got crashes when messaging, freezes while looking at pics, and a whole host of other little niggles with my Exec. The O2 XDA Orbit which I picked up yesterday has been an absolute beauty. It's a lovely size, really light, and the controls are very easy to use. The only thing I'm slightly concerned about is my battery has gone from 56% down to 6% in about 10min, which is a little bad but aparently is just my battery so changing that tonight.
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Excellent
I have had the MDA compact III for a week now and I think its great, if you want a brick then its not for you... ok it could have done with 3g and wifi (I have had it confirmed through a friend who works for HTC that the wifi Chip (hardware) was removed on the MDA) but at the end of the day who turns on there wifi? I havent on any other device...
All in all you choose the device for your needs, I had a M3100 and got rid of that for this... my main needs are tomtom, e-mail and phone in the smallest form factor I can get.... this device does it!....I have two and my partner has one also ... got them from the t-mobile shop £20 for each phone then £15 a month and 6.99 for the Web and Walk .... Bargain!.
Mouse - I prefer the roller on the M3100 but I do like the inovation and have played a bit with it but I do like it.

It's awesome. I have the the HTC with Wifi, but also without Wifi it's an excellent device
All the points that you ask have a 5 stars for me, compared with my old HTC Himalaya
Nothing is perfect anyway, a cradle available is my desire

I am also seriously considering getting this phone. My only concern is reception and voice quality. Anyone who has used HTC Magician please compare phone function of these two phones?
Also, does this have a2dp?

Exelent
raven2000 said:
I am also seriously considering getting this phone. My only concern is reception and voice quality. Anyone who has used HTC Magician please compare phone function of these two phones?
Also, does this have a2dp?
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Reception is good gps faar out and voice quality better than the magician (s100)
Good Device (still trying to get rid of the t-mobile ****) using mda compact III with wifi. by the way the device supports RDS (many people where asking this on the forum so here's your anwser
When is the free unlock available and htc roms (tmobile roms are fully branded and hardreset softreset doesn't affect this much....

Just about perfect...
This phone is the best I have owned. I upgraded from a PDA2k and see no appreciable lag between that device's 400mhz and the 200 in this little beauty - other than Voice Command taking just a little longer to beep after button press. It plays video like a champ (although converted to divx) - but who uses non-converted video anyway? Too much space on the mem card!
My only desire is that the memory card would be easier to get to. Sending large files to the card via Usb or Bluetooth takes forever. I hate the fact that I have a card reader built right into my laptop and I can't make use of this functionality with my PDA without taking out the battery and lifting the sim card holder. I guess since it uses MicroSD and those cards are easily damaged, HTC figured that hiding it away would protect us from ourselves!!! Hey, deeper in the device means less dust, right!? Just get a 2 gig and forget about it.
I have noticed that the battery is a little weak; I had an extended battery on my 2k and it lasted forever - but talk about bricks!!! I see that they are making an extended for the Artemis too, but I am hesitant to bulk up such a remarkably perfect form factor.
By the way - I concur that the wifi is solid and the GPS is fantastic (and well managed by the OS). I can walk around INSIDE my house and not loose my fix!! As far as Rollr is concerned, it takes some getting used to, but after a while I now don't think I could live without it! Read on:
If anyone wants to try a great configuration, try this: Use Double Launcher 2.11 and you go from having 6 hardware buttons and 2 softkeys to having 16 functions available via button! DL doesn't see the start menu button or the OK button on the Artemis, but it will give you 4 options on each of the other four keys. I had Vito Buttonmapper on my 2k, but it didn't seem to function well on the Artemis. DL is much nicer on this device. Then I used the registry hack by travegliaesogno posted here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=281487&page=2&highlight=mousemode to get the mouse mode to turn on using a button rather than the HTC icon on the Today screen. I used 40c2 (as this is the startmenu key which I never use for that function). The best thing is that the hack survives soft reset! Now I can get the mouse to appear within applications when I need it and make it disappear when I don't without having to minimize and go to the Today screen to activate/deactivate it!!! The mouse takes a little practice, and I wouldn't be surprised if the ROM updates for this device will make it run even more smoothly as time goes on.
I was really considering the Trinity when it became more and more likely that it would eventually have GPS, but now that I know the Artemis is as zippy as it is and my new love affair with Rollr, I'm glad I took the plunge with this lovely gadget! High marks, HTC!!!
Oh yeah,
raven2000 said:
I am also seriously considering getting this phone. My only concern is reception and voice quality. Anyone who has used HTC Magician please compare phone function of these two phones?
Also, does this have a2dp?
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Voice quality is excellent - no "sweet spot". Sounds good everywhere on your ear. Reception has been fantastic on Cingular in Virginia, USA. Sorry, can't comment on A2DP since I don't have bluetooth earphones yet. Okay, I'm done.

psargent, thanks for your mini-review, it was very helpful and removed my doubts about the device.

Thank you very much
Thank you very much for your coment on this Artemis..
So.. should say that this is the most perfect phone HTC ever build..
one more question, is this phone capable of 2g microsd?
Anyway i'll buy it.. wait until it release in THailand...

Yep, its a fine phone/pda. Ringer is loud, im glad to say, nice ringtones too, none of the normal crap tunes they put on all the phones these days. Tomtom seems slow to get the sats up but once it gets going its great. Its amazing what you can get on a 1gb card. I have 2 full length films and tomtom with space to spare. Unreal picture quality too. Well happy

I have the 2gig sandisk card from www.mobymemory.com and it works fine.

2 Gig Sandisk ULTRA also works well

jstubbings said:
...WiFi chip was removed on the MDA, but at the end of the day who turns on their wifi? I havent on any other device...
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I cant believe you just said that LMAO.

consono said:
I still cannot believe that it's using "only" a 200MHz CPU. It simply doesn't show. I guess this is due to excellent implementation on their part (AKU and all)....
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I havn't looked at this in detail but dont forget you can only compare the clock speeds of CPU's with similar architecture. Intel XScale chips usually have sky high CPU clocks (500MHz) but their architecture means a different CPU at 200MHz could potentially have more number crunching ability. One thing is for sure though more MHz = more battery juice.
Checkout the current crop of PC CPU's, Pentium 4's have clocked upto 3.8GHz but the new Core 2 Duo's running at 2.6GHz are way more powerful because of their architecture.
Its good to know that HTC's 3300 at 200MHz matches older 400MHz designs though so thanks for your input, I had been reading lots of posts about "BUT ONLY 200MHz - WHY!!?" etc etc I thought they were talking boll**ks now I know they were.

Network lock
Does anybody know if the O2 Orbit is actually locked to O2. I'm so tempted to go and get one right now, phone shop is only 10 minutes away, but i need to put a Vodafone sim in it.
Thanks for your help.
Paul

mine wasn't locked at all. orange sim worked with no probs...

FANTASTIC!!!!!! I'm off to get one right now ;-)

Got one tues without copilot but can't get gps to work, if you get one can you let me now if yours works vlad69uk? 02 say it only works with copilot!

What will be your next handheld???

For a span of 4 years I have owned a few handheld devices namely:
in chronological oreder:
HP RX 3715
FS Loox 720
FS Loox N560
Imate Jam
Treo 650
and the Artemis
I like the inbuilt keyboard of the Treo 650, I also like the VGA screen and fast processor of the N560 but the GPS sucks, and I like the OS stability (though still not perfect) and the quick GPS reception of the Artemis.
I like the single hand operability of the Treo 650.
Im getting sick and tired of using the stylus on my Artemis. You cant really use single hand comfortably.
Now Im looking for an upgrade. Something that combines all what I like.
The Kaiser doesnt get my attention due to the fact thats its very bulky. I dont like the sliding Keyboard.
Treo 750 doesnt have WiFi so its not worth it for me.
Polaris is also out of my wish list.
So to sum it all up, what Im looking for with my next handheld is:
1. fast processor at least 400mhz
2. inbuilt GPS and WiFi
3. big ram and rom
4. inbuilt keyboard like the treo
5. VGA screen
6. high megapixel camera
When will HTC answer my prayers???
If only Treo 750 had GPS and WiFi it will be the ultimate handheld for me.
And what will be your next handheld??? Yes you... I know you want an upgrade... I just know it.

touch cruse
vga screen can be a pile of problems with older apps/games and the likes

the treo 750 is slightly bigger then the kaiser. if the 30g make a big difference, i'm not so sure. i ordered my kaiser already, i will get it on monday...

it looks like this is what Im looking for:
http://www.expansys.com/zoompic.aspx?type=item&i=158759

Kaiser...just auctioned...
but in batterylife i think it's hard to top our Artemis, don't you think ?

petervbeck said:
Kaiser...just auctioned...
but in batterylife i think it's hard to top our Artemis, don't you think ?
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In my own personal opinion, OUR ARTEMIS is the best PDA at the moment! And I have decided to keep it until I find the perfect one for me. That is if the Treo 750 will be upgraded with GPS and WiFi. Or if HTC makes another Artemis with a Treo Keyboard (aka Thumb board) then thats a no brainer for me.

there are three things i really don't like with Artemis: USB1, no keyboard and camera, everything else is ok imo.
Sometimes a faster cpu would be nice, but this will drain batterylife for sure...
i'll post my expirience with my Kaiser when i get it next week...

what about the 02 XDA Stellar?

petervbeck said:
there are three things i really don't like with Artemis: USB1, no keyboard and camera, everything else is ok imo.
Sometimes a faster cpu would be nice, but this will drain batterylife for sure...
i'll post my expirience with my Kaiser when i get it next week...
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I dont mind USB1, and the camera, its there but its unusably crap anyway. My nokia N70s camnera is better.
If only the Artemis had a keyboard and faster processor it will be a keeper.
Anyway Goodluck woth your coming Kaiser...btw have read about the video playback that Kaiser owners complain about???

nm8 said:
I dont mind USB1, and the camera, its there but its unusably crap anyway. My nokia N70s camnera is better.
If only the Artemis had a keyboard and faster processor it will be a keeper.
Anyway Goodluck woth your coming Kaiser...btw have read about the video playback that Kaiser owners complain about???
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i like the external access to my storagecard, this is really convenient, also the keyboard on kaiser - i love it, specially the material it is made of...
Yes, i heard about the video issue - just tried to watch 30 minutes movie with tcpmp - imo no problem. so far i can live with it. The camera is great if you're using it with daylight - autofocus is working very well..but if it is dark, it's again not really usable...
if your comparing artemis and kaiser in weight - the first time you'll be shocked, it's really heavy compared with Artemis (specially the battery)
the only real issue is batterylife as expected....first it was only one day! using gps only with batterypower uses a lot of power
now i flashed another rom and radio rom, it's two days, maximum.
the speed, camera, (ok, speed & camera comes with Polaris) and keyboard of kaiser with the batterylife of artemis - this would be a great device

Hi Pete
Nice to hear youre happy with your brand new toy.
For me, Ill keep the Artemis (this is the best PDA I ever owned so far) for long until something comes out that will really make my heart thump and say GET THAT ONE!
Cheers!!!

Hi ya,
yes i'm happy - but selling my artemis ? NO WAY !
Cheers

Upgrade for Micromax W900 required.

Hi xda-developers,
I have recently bought a new micromax mobile W900.
It is having Windows Mobile 6.1 Operating System.
Now I want to upgrade it to Windows Mobile 6.5.
The specifications of the mobile are:
Form Factor: Bar Style
Band: Quad-band 850/900/1800/1900MHz
Weight: 113g
Dimensions: 112*55*14.2mm
Display: 262K, 3.2 inches” WQVGA.
Touch Lens: Camera 2.0 MP
Music: Multi Format Music Player (MP3 / AMR / MIDI / WMA)
Operating system: Microsoft Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional
CPU: K3 Hi3611 460MHz Processor
GPS: Yes, with maps from Mapmy India
Motion Sensor: Yes
WLAN: WiFi 802.11b/g
3.5MM Jack: Yes
Video Palyer: WMV/WMA/Mp4/H.263/AVI
Messaging: Yes, SMS/MMS/EMS/Email
Games: Yes
EDGE/GPRS/WAP/MMS: Yes, EGPRS (Class10)
PhoneBook Memory: Practically unlimited entries and fields, Photocall
Internal Memory: 256MB ROM, 128MB RAM
Expandable Memory: MicroSD (upto 16GB)
Battery Type: Li-ion 1500mAh
Talk Time: Up to 5 hours*
Standby Time: Up to 480 hours*
I have one query too. Now my mobile have 2 applications like SPB Home and MapMyIndia GPS. After upgrading will these applications remain or they have to reinstalled. Is this 6.1 to 6.5 a simple upgrade or the entire OS has to reinstalled?
Please do help me with this. I didn't get some great response from micromax guys so I am in need of good help.
from
Sudheer

hi sudheer
how is the phone anywaz?
for how much did u got it?

We need the 6.1 rom..its possible then ..

me too tell price buddy!!

funky_sids said:
how is the phone anywaz?
for how much did u got it?
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deepv84 said:
me too tell price buddy!!
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hi
i just now googled it and the price in india is as given below
Micromax W900 Price: approx. Rs. 7500 /-(this is Indian rupees)

THe mobile is good but then I am quite irritated with Windows Mobile 6.1 OS in it. It has bugs and it is not thumb friendly. I have heard that 6.5 is better and its navigation is quite friendly too. I am eagerly looking for it.
I bought it @ Rs 7650 in Hyderabad.
The battery life is just good enough for touch screen.
With normal usage it should come properly for 2 days and on 3rd day some time it should go off.
Micromax guys seems to take more time to judge the customer reviews over this mobile as it was launches just 1 - 2 months ago.
As of now is there any good Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM available?
And do I need to reinstall some pre-installed apps like SPB Home and Sygic GPS for Map my India ?
Just let me know

i told tht
we need 6.1 Rom and we can thn DIY 6.5 out of it
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hdubli said:
i told tht
we need 6.1 Rom and we can thn DIY 6.5 out of it
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Hi,
I have bought a W900 myself last week. It is a chinese phone at heart with the NEXPERIA 5209 board. I am quite technically challenged, but if anyone can help me with the instructions, I will try to extract the WM6.1 from my phone as I need to upgrade as well.
I wiped my phone clean and the applications like MapMyIndia, AdobeFlash n other stuff installed themselves again. So I think they have been included in the ROM itself and can be ported to the 6.5 ROM as well.

tvsudhir said:
THe mobile is good but then I am quite irritated with Windows Mobile 6.1 OS in it. It has bugs and it is not thumb friendly. I have heard that 6.5 is better and its navigation is quite friendly too. I am eagerly looking for it.
I bought it @ Rs 7650 in Hyderabad.
The battery life is just good enough for touch screen.
With normal usage it should come properly for 2 days and on 3rd day some time it should go off.
Micromax guys seems to take more time to judge the customer reviews over this mobile as it was launches just 1 - 2 months ago.
As of now is there any good Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM available?
And do I need to reinstall some pre-installed apps like SPB Home and Sygic GPS for Map my India ?
Just let me know
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I had my iPhone 3G stolen and was looking for a touchscreen with wi-fi. This is the only phone less than 8k running a reputed OS with touch. I bought it for 7800 in Bangalore last week.
And the bloody GPS never works so the maps are of no use anyway.

How do I go into the flash mode on the W900?? I have tried holding down the volume, camera, Start button while powering up but it does not go into the flash mode. Starts straight up to the Windows icon.

sidhusaab said:
I had my iPhone 3G stolen and was looking for a touchscreen with wi-fi. This is the only phone less than 8k running a reputed OS with touch. I bought it for 7800 in Bangalore last week.
And the bloody GPS never works so the maps are of no use anyway.
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The GPS works for sure. I have tested it in my mobile. Now there are few things which you should check.
1 - Do not try for GPS in office or @ home. The signals r not strong in closed area. Go out in open area and check for valid signals.
2 - The GPS system tries to connect to valid signal and if u see at least 4 - 5 sticks then it normally gets connected.
3 - Initially, before the connection it shows gray screen. the moment u get connected it changes to normal colorful screen and automatically locate ur current location.
4 - Once this is done then the route option gets enabled and u can select ur destination too.
5 - Once ur route is selected and u start moving in ur vehicle then it start prompting for ur directions ... Like "take left after 100 meters". ...
It is one good feature of this mobile ... Do try for it and let me also tell u that it takes a little while before it connects and locate ur self. Once that is done then it is quite fast and decently good... Best of luck.

hdubli said:
i told tht
we need 6.1 Rom and we can thn DIY 6.5 out of it
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U seem to have a probable solution. And I am sorry that i didn't get what u r trying to tell me. If u r asking me to check for ROMs then I have found few ROMs which are like tested on HTC mobiles and none r tested on micromax w900 or similar hardware.
And y do we need 6.1 ROM. I mean it is already there in my mobile.
At last y the hell did Microsoft complicate this simple upgrade ... I wish it was just upgrade button click...

tvsudhir said:
U seem to have a probable solution. And I am sorry that i didn't get what u r trying to tell me. If u r asking me to check for ROMs then I have found few ROMs which are like tested on HTC mobiles and none r tested on micromax w900 or similar hardware.
And y do we need 6.1 ROM. I mean it is already there in my mobile.
At last y the hell did Microsoft complicate this simple upgrade ... I wish it was just upgrade button click...
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What the seniors mean is that we gotta dump the 6.1 ROM already on our W900 so that they can use the same basic stuff that it has but upgrade the OS to WM6.5
Each phone has its own drivers n stuff for the mobo as in PCs. That is why they have a different section for each phone in the forums.

tvsudhir said:
The GPS works for sure. I have tested it in my mobile. Now there are few things which you should check.
1 - Do not try for GPS in office or @ home. The signals r not strong in closed area. Go out in open area and check for valid signals.
2 - The GPS system tries to connect to valid signal and if u see at least 4 - 5 sticks then it normally gets connected.
3 - Initially, before the connection it shows gray screen. the moment u get connected it changes to normal colorful screen and automatically locate ur current location.
4 - Once this is done then the route option gets enabled and u can select ur destination too.
5 - Once ur route is selected and u start moving in ur vehicle then it start prompting for ur directions ... Like "take left after 100 meters". ...
It is one good feature of this mobile ... Do try for it and let me also tell u that it takes a little while before it connects and locate ur self. Once that is done then it is quite fast and decently good... Best of luck.
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Thanks for the tip.... will try it for sure!! Were you able to activate the Sygic maps?? I tried to go to their website for activation but it asks for the product code.... n I haven't got one listed anywhere

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Hi,
I just bought the Micromaxx W900 last week. Not to own but to experience it!
As i read above somebody has rightly said that it is a Chinese Phone, it has a Hisilicon-K3 (most of the phones which is are assembled in China like HTC have Hisilicon or HUAWEI processors) processor and CPU, of 460 MHz which is ok. It is also using Nexperia chipset, which also i would say OK.
But having said that they cam never be compared with Intels 620 MHz which used come with various PDA assembled in the EU.
I could not make much use of the GPS, i wonder why MapMyIndia chose to partner with them. I could not find any DRM version in the OS settings (Digital Rights Management), Doesn't seem to be a 3D touch flo. the Touch quality of a phone depends on two things - the OS and the Phones Touch quality, Unfortunately none of that supports it to have a great touch quality. there is no place to store the Stylus, you have to carry it separately in your pocket. The SPB Home's registration is also very funny, one needs the registration details for upgrade which has not been provided, at least i could not find the same anywhere in the kit.
I had some more to say but running out of time, would come back again.
regards,

Parthaa said:
Hi,
I just bought the Micromaxx W900 last week. Not to own but to experience it!
As i read above somebody has rightly said that it is a Chinese Phone, it has a Hisilicon-K3 (most of the phones which is are assembled in China like HTC have Hisilicon or HUAWEI processors) processor and CPU, of 460 MHz which is ok. It is also using Nexperia chipset, which also i would say OK.
But having said that they cam never be compared with Intels 620 MHz which used come with various PDA assembled in the EU.
I could not make much use of the GPS, i wonder why MapMyIndia chose to partner with them. I could not find any DRM version in the OS settings (Digital Rights Management), Doesn't seem to be a 3D touch flo. the Touch quality of a phone depends on two things - the OS and the Phones Touch quality, Unfortunately none of that supports it to have a great touch quality. there is no place to store the Stylus, you have to carry it separately in your pocket. The SPB Home's registration is also very funny, one needs the registration details for upgrade which has not been provided, at least i could not find the same anywhere in the kit.
I had some more to say but running out of time, would come back again.
regards,
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Agree with everything said above EXCEPT for the stylus part. The stylus comes with a thread which you can pass through the holes at the top, just next to the headphone jack and let it hang around. I didn't find the stylus to be very comfortable in use so I've swapped it with a Nokia 5800 stylus thingy so I don't have to unscrew the stylus each time I wanna use it. Threading it thru the holes is another story, took me quite a while to do it and that too, with the help of a safety pin.

sidhusaab said:
Agree with everything said above EXCEPT for the stylus part. The stylus comes with a thread which you can pass through the holes at the top, just next to the headphone jack and let it hang around. I didn't find the stylus to be very comfortable in use so I've swapped it with a Nokia 5800 stylus thingy so I don't have to unscrew the stylus each time I wanna use it. Threading it thru the holes is another story, took me quite a while to do it and that too, with the help of a safety pin.
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Ha ha ha; i like that! Tc

Hi,
I purchased w900 last sunday and from monday the Camera stopped working. The Battery life is so poor that if i just browse the mobile it takes around 5% of battery in 2-3 minutes. Really disappointed with this mobile. Won't recommend to anyone.

I read the dumping procedure for upgrading the ROM from 6.1 to 6.5 but i wasn't able to follow exactly what was written. I wasn't even able to locate the '.nbf' files etc. which are required for the upgrade. I need help in this context!
Thanks in advance...

naveenbhatia said:
Hi,
I purchased w900 last sunday and from monday the Camera stopped working. The Battery life is so poor that if i just browse the mobile it takes around 5% of battery in 2-3 minutes. Really disappointed with this mobile. Won't recommend to anyone.
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My cam also stopped working so I went to Settings n did a Clean Boot. That fixed the issue for me temporarily....
found out later that Fring disabled the camera when installed. So am looking for a new IM app to stay online on GTalk using GPRS.