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Qtek 9090 Audio in phone calling is very Bad.

hello with my Qtek
when i am in Call (receive or send) and
when i no speak the micro cut off and return to on when i re-speak !
but this system is not not very efficient and somme people
complain to me...
i have search option of energy save microphone or other and
i found nothing ...
you have a idea ??
a another french user of Qtek 9090 have the same problem...

start/settings/system -> microphone AGC, turn it off so that it doesn't change the microphone sensitivity.

thanks but no change with AGC settings
the AGC settings is for voice note not for telephony...

On my company we have all 4 devices with bad microphone. Everyone has to use a BT-HF. We are using Qtek 9090.

This is actually a network setting and nothing you can control. The network simply disconnects you when it thinks you are not saying anything. Here in the UK the networks do teh same thing but due to many complaints they now replace the silence you hear with white noise so it sounds like you are still connected.
R

According to the swedish distributor Brightpoint a fix for Bluetooth and microphone quality is soon to be released. All of the 9090s we have experience the same problems, bt stack and audio quality. Even had one that claimed that the license for the bt stack had expired :shock:

This is not only a network setting. When using HF the sound quality is great.
Anonymous said:
This is actually a network setting and nothing you can control. The network simply disconnects you when it thinks you are not saying anything. Here in the UK the networks do teh same thing but due to many complaints they now replace the silence you hear with white noise so it sounds like you are still connected.
R
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Sjugge, great for you :wink: For me HF quality is also bad and its not the hf that is defective :? My agc is disabled aswell...

Yes the Qtek 9090 have a microphone problem, is not the network is the Qtek.
I am in france on the SFR network, and the opérator not cut the sound in silence, the operator doesn't cut the sound, all is in continuous with all telephones except the Qtek
The micro has an intelligent system to improve the sound and saved the batteries I think. It would be necessary to cut it!!
i call the oficial Qtek repair service but...
the boss I say... You have ??? a 9090 ??? whaooo
not have info, not have doc...
I saw it in photo but I have touch it never !

i am make test with Bluetooth headset and sound in phone call is OK.
its just the internal microphone mode or heaset with cord...
have a problem with microphone level automatic ajustment...
for the moment, the Bluetooth headset is obligatory to correct call...
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I recently bought an i-mate pda2k. The quality of the GSM is so low I am thinking about having to revert back to my Nokia for business calls! Microphone is intermittent, and sometimes inaudible. The signal is also sporadic, cutting calls for no apparent reason. I get same results with AGC on or off.

yes harry_mb !!
we are a lot
I have write to this has HTC but he didn't even answer to me.
HTC No have software or rom support !! just a repair harsware house.
it is my first Qtek
but especially my last,
more I would never buy a constructor's product that doesn't exist!!

I have experienced the same problem with i-Mate PDA2K here, in Dubai-UAE as well!
The first one that I bought some 40 days ago had a real miserable microphone.. so they replaced it for me... I am still experiencing the same problem of those " slience periods " while I am talking, which makes it for other people almost difficult to hear everything I say.
That was one thing.. the other problem is that the voice quality is really bad, everyone complains to me that I sound very far, i.e. my voice is too low ... when using BT, everything is fine !

When I use my XDA II with its standard wired hands-free kit nearly everyone I phone complains that the voice volume is too low. The Microphone AGC setting in "Settings" makes no difference. It's only a simple level control that needs to be tweaked and is nothing whatsoever to do with the network. Does anyone know of any software tweak/fix available out there ? (XDA has the new Nov 2004 Rom pack).

chosl said:
Even had one that claimed that the license for the bt stack had expired :shock:
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Now thats one I keep seeing on my O2 XDA IIs !! Does not prevent BT from working/starting though - suspect its a MessageBox() left in by the programmers by mistake.
Nigel

MY call quality is terrible. Fine on my end, but *really bad* on the other end. Sounds as if, like others have said, i was 5 feet from the microphone. How is it that one can pay so much more for a phone and have problems like this???

same here
Yes - another XDA 2s user with the microphone problem. Everyone I speak to asks me to speakup. Would love a fix for this

Just got off the phone with the XDA data support people - they suggest a hard reset ;-)
Quality

me again
i've just come across a posting by psuter. He suggests holding the phone in the other hand and it only blo*dy works ! The mic for the phone seems to be near the reset pin hole so i've possibly been blocking it with my hand. Making an effort to speak directly into the mic hole certainly helps.
The XDA 2 didn't have this problem because the mic hole was next to the navigation disc.

chosl said:
....Even had one that claimed that the license for the bt stack had expired :shock:
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As of today I have the same problem. I have installed upgrade Bluetooth 3500...Can you tell me how to solve the license problem?

Several serious problems with Qtek 9090

I'm having several problems with my Qtek 9090
There's a rather loud constant high-pitched noise comming from the screen whenever it is turned on (which is when the device is on!). At first I though it was comming from the speaker, but the screen is definitely the source of the noise. It doesn't matter if the backlight is on or off.
People can't hear what I say when using the phone - it makes no difference whether I use the included headphones or just speak directly into the microphone.
I haven't been able to find a BT headset that works with it. They all have the same problem; The sound scratch so much they're unusable. I tried 3 different brands that all works well with my 2020!
The GSM link often "falls out" - even though there's plenty of link the phone doesn't work (nothing happens when I try to call someone). A soft reset solves this problem!
As you can see, I can hardly use the device as a phone at all I've had the device replaced once, but all the problems persists on the replacement.
Does anyone have similar problems?

1. No, don't have this problem. Strange that it happened on the replacement too.
2. Yes.
3. I have just ordered a jabra headset in the hope it will fix problem#2.
4. Yes.
These problems with GSM are a real headache. One of the primary reasons for buying the PDA2k was to consolidate my mobile into one device. I have seen other people experiencing such problems but from what I could gather, voice over BT worked much better. Have you updated the ROM since you bought it? I should know the answer to 3 today, if DHL delivers, and I can tell you I will not be a happy man if the answer is Yes!

Try a Motorola HS810 headset... works fine for me.

harry_mb said:
1. No, don't have this problem. Strange that it happened on the replacement too.
2. Yes.
3. I have just ordered a jabra headset in the hope it will fix problem#2.
4. Yes.
These problems with GSM are a real headache. One of the primary reasons for buying the PDA2k was to consolidate my mobile into one device. I have seen other people experiencing such problems but from what I could gather, voice over BT worked much better. Have you updated the ROM since you bought it? I should know the answer to 3 today, if DHL delivers, and I can tell you I will not be a happy man if the answer is Yes!
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I've already tried Jabra Freespeak 250, which didn't work for me
No I haven't updated the ROM as I've been told by the supplier that no new version is available yet!
outz said:
Try a Motorola HS810 headset... works fine for me.
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I also tried both a Motorola and a SonyEricsson BT headset, but I don't remember the specific models - they both scratched immensely

i use SE 60 and it works ok

As you said, the Jabra250 is pretty much unusable!
Crackling is not constant but goes in waves, even though I do not move.
Am at a bit of a loss what to do now... the device is great apart from this.

>> People can't hear what I say when using the phone - it makes no difference whether I use the included headphones or just speak directly into the microphone
yes PBT read my other post
I have the same problem!!
it is scandalous to sel an device with this big defect!!

Sony HBH-660 works good for me.

People say that they can't hear me when I use the handset, but I don't have any crackling, etc with the headset and voice is clear. You just never know if the headset is going to connect when the phone rings though.

sound from screen
there's a rather loud constant high-pitched noise comming from the screen whenever it is turned on (which is when the device is on!). At first I though it was comming from the speaker, but the screen is definitely the source of the noise. It doesn't matter if the backlight is on or off
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I have this problem also, I was told to use the new rom but this has made no difference, Please let me know if you have found a solution
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Guys,
the hissing coming from the screen is a power supply problem. keep swapping phones until it goes away! I used to build switching power supply and the hissing (in a system designed to operate well above 20kHz) is only able to be heared when unstable, inductor core or cap is broken. The hissing is very 'not normal'.
It appears that the Q9090 is standing out as having more problems than the MDAIII, one is the mic volume, most of the other phones are not complaining about this so there may be something with they way the Q9090 are updated or shipped.

With the Jabra 250, don't forget to pair it pressing BOTH the volume and phone button on the headset on discovery with the 9090.(On bonding, turn off headset, turn on again pressing both buttons)
Funny thing is, I had the cracking also. I deleted the headset in BT manager and paired it again as described above. Now it works ok.

Hi,
I bought a Qtek 9090 a few days ago and I also have the same problem with volume level. People can't hear me when speaking, either with the headset or base microphone.
Using a different headset doesn't help (that's even worse sometimes) but I didn't try a BT heaset (and I don't want to as it would raise potential connection problems). I'm going to contact Qtek for support on this...
Pierre

I too am having problems with the Jabra 250 BT headset and my SPV M2000. The Jabra 250 worked fine on the XDAII but is terribly crackly on the newer model.
This is even when pairing it with the enhanced pairing of pressing Volume Up and Phone button together to pair.
Any ideas?

qtek 9090 bluetooth problem
Hi All,
I have new qtek9090 with cellink bluetooth headset. It is work normal, but i am loosing connection to headset each time qtek go to stand by mode. I need to switch off/on the bluetooth in order to restore the connection. Any ideas?

I often get a message stating:
"The Bluetooth Radio failed to turn ON due to insufficient driver momory available. You must perform a normal reset before you can turn ON the Bluetooth Radio."
Does your device also give you this message?
Is it also using the Broadcom "Bluetooth for Windows CE BT-PPC/PE Version 1.0.0 Build 2200"?
Interested to know if you have the same problems with the same bluetooth driver.

same problem
My qtek 9090 shows te same problem

This is a known problem with the Blue Angel, unfortunately, until they bring out a fix, all you can do is a soft reset.

upgrade
hi all,
how can i get updates from www.imateclub.com?
I can't register there, because I have qtek 9090 and not i-mate
thanks

O2 Sourced info on which BT headsets work
See: http://www.my-xda.com/downloads/Other_Bluetooth.pdf

Qtek9000 and Jabra BT 620s

Hello, i bought Stereo bluetooth headphones JABRA BT 620s. Connected them to maj Uni and phonecall is OK. But when i want listen music the music is interrupting and sometimes the music going slower and slower. It seems like old gramophone whne u put finger on gramophon record during playing.
I upgraded Uni to Helmi AKU3.5 ver 1.3 and radio to 1.14.10 but no change ...
When i connect these phones to my friends mobil SE W710i it works perfectly ... If i asked about this problem contact centrum of Jabra they said that probably Bluetooth hasnot enough capacity ??? I hope its not truth...
Somebody has some idea how to repair this problem ?
Thank you

Me too
Hi,
had the same problem. I tried several tips published on this forum without any success. I was told by the dealer where i bought it that they also thought it would not work. I could bring it return without problem.
I am still looking for an alternative (BT, Stereo, microphone), preferably in-ear solution. Anyone an idea?

JABRA BT320s

Anyone had any success pairing the JABRA BT320s with MDA 2 and if so, do all the functions of the bluetooth stereo headset work?
Thanks.

Upgrade
Purchased Jabra BT320s and paired with Vario 2 after upgrading ROM. Everything working fine with excellent sound quality. I did not try to pair with Vario 2 on old WM 5.0 ROM so I cannot say if the BT320 would work on this OS.

I DID try to pair a BT320s with my TyTN a while ago, no luck......im going to try again now, as i was quite annoyed it didnt work. Will report back soon.
EDIT:: Gonna need to get a plug adapter as i forgot the dumbasses i bought it from sent an EU power supply and not a UK one...LOL!
from what i remember it was around JUNE time when i tried it, sounds like the bluetooth drivers may have changed since i tried it but it did seem as if the headset was the problem and not the drivers as i have had other A2DP headsets working fine.

Jabra BT320's
Bluetooth can be a real pain at times - with unpredictable results. I cannot begin to tell you how much wasted time I have spent trying to pair gadgets together - so it was a pleasent surprise to find the Jabra's paired first time and functioned as described.
Wishing you LOL.
tange.

well i tried it again and even on my pretty up to date ROM it only pairs as a headset and not wireless stereo urgh!

may be worth a rom upgrade?

i have a 320s (uk version bought from a tmobile shop - their selling them for 25quid) and it works fine on my wm5 spv m700 and is detected as wireless stereo and headset

mrvanx said:
well i tried it again and even on my pretty up to date ROM it only pairs as a headset and not wireless stereo urgh!
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i had the same issue with this thing ... i did a hardreset and it showed up as stereo headset again. i had to do one anyway...
@all how do you like the jabra? mine is quite noisy ... i use my ugly samsung speakers instead and thinking about buying a 3.5mm adapter for the car.

I have been playing with the bt320s for a few days on different roms for my wizzard. I have been tring some WM5 and WM6 roms for features and bluetooth options. What i found was that I could pair with WM5 but even if it gave me the stereo option it was only in mono. After a google search i found someone mentioing that WM5 only supports Mono.
I then tried a couple of WM6 roms and found that they all supported the stereo correctly.
I then hit a problem as I decided that a ROM i tried earlier had everything i wanted (Diamond). So, decision made, I flashed the rom and tried to pair and it would only pair on headset and not offer the stereo. Very wierd as it worked before????.
I then found a post on another site which mentioned the following with the Bt320s headset.
1) delete any pairings on the phone.
2) switch of headset
3) plug the charge into the mains
4) put the charge into the headset 3 times for 5 seconds each.
5) Recreate the pairing with the phone.
Sounds wierd but it worked??????
I now have a wm6 rom with stereo bluetooth.
the only problem now is that WM6 closes all my apps when i switch it off and on using the power button.
This seems to be a bug when you enable a security pin in WM6 which i am forced to do via a directpush policy from work. Does anyone know a workaround for this as it is anoying to have your cub/pointui/media player etc close on you and go back to the home screen whenever I use the power button.
*****Orange are selling the Jabra BT320s online for £9.50 at the moment. Well worth the money*********

Quick update, on the latest pandora ROM (Tytn) ..... Its working great.

OhtwoXDA2 said:
1) delete any pairings on the phone.
2) switch of headset
3) plug the charge into the mains
4) put the charge into the headset 3 times for 5 seconds each.
5) Recreate the pairing with the phone.
Sounds wierd but it worked??????
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Just tried this trick and it work! I have a Jabra BT620.

bluetooth paring problems WM6.5

Yesterdaty I updated to WM6.5 and now try to get everything working again. Somehow my TP2 won't pair with my bluetooth carkit anymore. With WM6.1 this was no problem. The phone still pairs perfectly with my computer (also bluetooth connection) so I think the bluetooth connection is ok.
When parining to my carkit it finds the device, then I have to enter a password on the TP2, and after that it just sais "pairing connection failed", and it will not work. I am sure the password is not changed since yesterday. I tried it several times. I do not know what to do anymore. Could this be a setting somewhere? I get the feeling my password is not send properly but have no idea.

Meanwhile I tried pairing my carkit with another phone and no problems there. So my conclusion is: something has changed with bluetooth, updating to WM6.5 which makes it now impossible to pair my TP2 with my carkit.
Is there maybe a programm for the TP2 which give me more controll over bluetooth (like maybe go to an older standard)?

I have exactly the same problem as you

good to hear I am not the only one. Hope someone will come up with a solution for this.

I did nor observed any issues when pairing my TP2 after reflashing to WM6.5
There is another issue however - I can not hear any voice until it is charging.
Unplugging of the charger fixes this issue immediately. Horrible...
Seems, HTC guys are saving money on testing by using us as Beta Customers.

Would a custom ROM be a solution for us?

I updated to the "energy 6.5.1 rom" and guess what..............
The same problem. The rom is very nice, but my TP2 still won't pair with my BT carkit which is very big problem for me.
Is there maybe a way to downgrade just the BT part of a rom to WM6.1. I read on different forums there is something that is called a BT stack. Could this be the problem?

I have a ton of problems with bluetooth pairing now. However, I don't know whether it's the fault of 6.5 or the Tilt 2. Here is what I am experiencing...
- On car deck or headphones, the skip buttons don't do anything
- on car deck or headphones, I have to disconnect Stereo Audio and then reconnect to actually get sound. It NEVER works when it auto connects.
- Music will do a brief skip when you shut the screen off
- Stupid message about volume control every time it connects (resolved by switching to custom rom)
- SMS or any kind of alert tone now turns music way down so that the tone is the only thing you hear. Which is super awesome when I'm driving my drunk friends around and they are singing along to a song when suddenly it mutes so everyone can hear my incoming text message.
Not a single one of these issues existed when I had my Fuze.

Same here
My bt headset (sony hbh ds970) and simply does not find the pairing...
I asume is a problem related to energy´s ROM

orb3000 said:
Same here
My bt headset (sony hbh ds970) and simply does not find the pairing...
I asume is a problem related to energy´s ROM
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No I do not think so, because I used the official WM6.5 with the same problem. Does someone know a way around this issue. I strongly believe that if only I could pair I have some options to work with it (in 6.1 it worked like a charm). If I only could pair without having to send the passkey it would be great step forward. I presume with sending the passkey, the bluetooth of the TP2 sends out other "rubbish" that confuses my carkit.

My problem is solved and guess what, it had nothing to do with my TP2. The problem was my carkit. It has a maximum number of bluetooth devices (5) it can pair to and the last one (the WM6.1 version of my phone) had been reached. So a hard reset on the bluetooth carkit and the problem was solved.
Well, at least I now know how to flash a rom to my phone and I think I learned more about the phone reading through all the forums. Thanks all for thinking with me on this problem!

Does anyone else still have this problem?? I have removed all the devices from my car and continue to have the same pairing error just after entering the passcode. Stock Spint ROM worked great, but multiple 6.5 upgrades don"t pair..............suggestions/ideas??????

bluetooth settings, advanced, enable beam data exchange,check the box

Interesting.....I actually found a fix. Instead of pairing the phone with the car, I paired the car with the phone. I didn't even know that this was possible, but it did the trick!