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Is this really a bad idea?
From what I've read the M2000 has it's problems, not least the constant resetting and poor BT headset performance.
My XDAII is great and the Jabra BT250 works great.
I'd appreciate any comments from those who've made the upgrade.
Orange are letting me have one FOC for comitting to another 12 months but now I'm not so sure.
Don't Do It.
believe me don't do it its not worth it.
the screen is bad and you have microphone & the sliding keyboard problems.
& not to mention the blue tooth cracking that is you're jabra won't work you will just hear cracking.
so wait for the xda i.
which is suppose to launch by the end of thus month or january next year.
Don't Do It.
believe me don't do it its non worth it.
the screen is bad and you have microphone & the sliding keyboard problems.
& not to mention the blue tooth cracking that is you're jabra won't work you will just hear cracking.
so wait for the xda i.guage
which is suppose to launch by the end of thus month or january next year.
I'm currently thinking about buying a bluetooth car kit for my M2000, but don't know whether to get a cheap one (Nokia CK7W etc) or go the whole hog and get a Parrot one.
I would like to know of current users recommendations before I splash out on one.
Did you choose a kit in the end? If so what did you go for?
Got a Parrot CK3100, worked fine, only bugbear is when you get a call with a witheld number, the last recieved number is displayed on caller ID.
Battery life is alright, used it with full charge from 21:30 till approx 14:00 next day.
Would recommend, I've tried using Nokia B/T car kits and the echo is terrible, the Parrot is really good.
We had to uninstall a load of Nokia kits that O2 had originally recommended, the outgoing sound quality is awful (a bit like you've got your head in a bucket in the next room!!).
We ended up with Sony Ericsson kits, much better
We had to uninstall a load of Nokia kits that O2 had originally recommended, the outgoing sound quality is awful (a bit like you've got your head in a bucket in the next room!!).
We ended up with Sony Ericsson kits, much better
Yeah I've got the Nokia problem, looks like I'm going to go for a Parrot CK3300 with the integrated GPS.
raiderz
I am considering the CK3100 also, question does the display show signal strength, carrier etc?
Thank you
The Parrot website shows compatibility etc.... take alook. Can't remember what the address is, a search will out it!
Jam78
I have read the compatability guide however my experience with Parrot is no matter what the guide says it may not be 100% functional. This is why I would rather ask someone that actually uses the product.
parrot are best for qtek if 3000 evolution without display or 3100 with display. i have qtek s100 with parrot ck3300 an destinator pn an all works fine.
Jam78 said:
Yeah I've got the Nokia problem, looks like I'm going to go for a Parrot CK3300 with the integrated GPS.
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I have this opne in my car with no problems at all
i have a XDA2s with tomtom 4 runing no problam at all
I can confirm that the CK3300 is working fine with my Bule Angel.
http://www.fonejunkie.com/jabra-bt800-bluetooth-headset-p-500.html
?? Apart from possible time lag issue for answering call, I thought Jabra BT800 was praised for use with Exec (and XDA IIs) ??
Anyone heard anything to corroborate above?
I'll sell you mine. I used it for the first time today and I think my ear is a little small for it.
I bought it on ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5827236759&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MEWN:IT&rd=1) just the other day and I had a problem with the cover so I RMA'd it. I received a new one, which is fine, yesterday and used it for the first time today.
I have one as well.
Works very well, but I dont use it, so for a reasonable offer, I can send it with all the bits.
Jabra had a batch though thats all.
>>I had a problem with the cover<< - this may be what the company were referring to.
if by problem with the cover you mean the front cover came off, the same thing happened to the one i brought off of eBay! so i sent it back and got a new one, then the front came off of that when i used it for an hour. I put a bit of glue on the one connecting joint and its been perfect ever since!!
I noticed another strange thing with my BT800.
My customers can hear some of my ringtone when I answer a call via the headset. Now, you may think this is not big deal, but when your ringtone is the song, "I like to move it, move it.", this can be a BAD thing!
I have a Motorola 850 and this isn't an issue.
I thought that MS Voice Command was causing the problem due to the annoucing but it doesn't happen w/ the MoTo 850.
Now, the BT800 is supposed to be upgradable so I'd like to see Jabra put out an update to fool the universal into thinking it's a stereo device. Maybe then Voice Command will work via BT. (That is if my understanding of the problem is correct.)
I just recieved mine today didnt even get out of the box in one piece, faceplate problem again.
What a crock of $hit :x
I think this is a better option than the Jabra BT800. They both have displays and cheaper too:
http://www.tekkeon.com/site/products-ez3000.php
I would like to see that headset on someones head. See if it looks good. Only thing I dont like is the fact that the OLED screen is on the outside of the headset so everyone can see what number your calling. Though it looks like its a lot better than Jabra.
I've used three SX66 vairiants of the Blue Angle and all of them have Crappy Bluetooth reception. You have to have the phone is your shirt pocket on the side where the headset is.
I know its not the headset as we have tried 4 headsets and they all work great with other Bluetooth phones. I can answer my Nokia phone from 2 offices down the hall with my Logitech Traveler. On my SX66 I cant answer it from my Cargo Pants Pocket with out getting masive static.
All the SX66s I've used are the BT v 3900...
Any Suggestions?
Same Friggin' problem
I have been up all night searching for an answer to this as I thought it was perhaps a problem related to upgrading. Then I remembered it was doing it before I upgraded. I wonder if it has anything to do with radio version, etc.
I would really, REALLY hate to go back to using the default earplugs that tangle if you think too hard.
Come on guys, is there a BT reception fix I'm overlooking? I was in a conference call yesterday from home and it sounded like someone was balling up candy wrappers in the phone on my end and the other's until I had to disable the headset and continue with the XDA IIs to my ear. :evil:
no bluetooth fix sorry.
radio has nothing to do with bluetooth
Reception really suck.....hope someone here can help....
I've been looking at this issue as well.
Per the nekkid blue angel pictures from the wiki, the bluetooth antenna looks to be a tiny chip looking thing...
Has anyone considered (or even did) replacing it with something a bit more substantial?
The wifi antenna is kind of small as well. GSM antenna looks OK.
try I Tech Clip II mini.
this is what I have been using for the past 4 months and has been great.
I have tried different types of Jabra BT, Mobile traveller.. none has worked and waste of money.
until i find this one... works great.
jdc said:
Per the nekkid blue angel pictures from the wiki, the bluetooth antenna looks to be a tiny chip looking thing...
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Hi Jdc,
I cant find the pic you are talking about, if you could give me a pointer to where the bluetooth antenna is I see if I can come up with anything.
nuttja said:
Hi Jdc,
I cant find the pic you are talking about, if you could give me a pointer to where the bluetooth antenna is I see if I can come up with anything.
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http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Technical
and
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueangelNakedPictures
I can't find the page that lists which one is which now (naturally once I'm looking for it, it hides), but IIRC the wifi antenna is that small clipish looking thing at D-20, the bluish one at H-20 is the bluetooth, and the big green thing at the top of the board (letters C-K, numbers 1-6) is the GSM antenna.
Looking closer at the board, it would almost appear that there is an external antenna hookup as well for the wifi?
If I didn't have a cracked screen, I'd take mine apart to find out. I'm worried that if I did, the screen would totally stop working. :-(
That seems a bad location for the BT aerial to me with the charge socket at the back and all that shielding above.
I read an article about moding a usb dongle :
http://www.pentest.co.uk/documents/bt_dongle_mod/bt_dongle_mod.html
I’m thinking maybe we could try something similar on the Blue Angel but with an internal aerial in a better location, a bit like these ones on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200142840418
what do you all think?
nuttja said:
That seems a bad location for the BT aerial to me with the charge socket at the back and all that shielding above.
I read an article about moding a usb dongle :
http://www.pentest.co.uk/documents/bt_dongle_mod/bt_dongle_mod.html
I’m thinking maybe we could try something similar on the Blue Angel but with an internal aerial in a better location, a bit like these ones on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200142840418
what do you all think?
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Agreed, it is a bad location. Especially if one considers that often, one holds the unit in hand at that location, covering up the antennas.
Assuming that is the bluetooth antenna (I'm fairly sure it is, considering that is looks similar to the one in the dongle you linked to), I would think that it would be better to use one of those wifi antennas in the ebay link (or something similar) and try to keep everything internal to the phone. Since bluetooth does run on the same frequency as wifi, in theory, it should work.
No one wants to use a phone with a bunch of wires hanging off of it, otherwise why would we be complaining about the bluetooth range?
Now, if that other connector looking part is the wifi, the battery normally covers it. Unless there is a way to extend that to another user added jack, the same idea(s) for the bluetooth would apply.
I do not know how tight the clearances are inside the angle, as I've never opened mine. one would think that there might be a way to run the antenna wire on the inside of the back, or along the sides of the plastics. Perhaps around the GSM antenna area? Or would that cause too much interference to the phone/bt/wifi?
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I've used three SX66 vairiants of the Blue Angle and all of them have Crappy Bluetooth reception. You have to have the phone is your shirt pocket on the side where the headset is.
I know its not the headset as we have tried 4 headsets and they all work great with other Bluetooth phones. I can answer my Nokia phone from 2 offices down the hall with my Logitech Traveler. On my SX66 I cant answer it from my Cargo Pants Pocket with out getting masive static.
All the SX66s I've used are the BT v 3900...
Any Suggestions?
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Love the read about this, but there was quite a discussion about this problem when the BA was released. I argued it with orange for pretty much the entire length of my contract, it was a faulty bluetooth driver. and surprisingly enough O2 and t-mobile got it right with their XDAIIs and the MDA III firmware's but Orange didn't get it right till almost about a year or more later. needless to say it started working after i pugraded the firmware later on. since then i'm now runnign t-mobiles firmware on it with the o2 active program ( hahaha yea best of both ) and it's been fine for me. So look into upgrading to any of the offical roms from whatever network your looking for, if' you've already unlocked the phone, great as should remain unlocked, if doesn't just re-run the unlocker
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surprisingly enough O2 and t-mobile got it right with their XDAIIs and the MDA III firmware's but Orange didn't get it right till almost about a year or more later.
So look into upgrading to any of the offical roms from whatever network your looking for
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Mine is an XDA iis form O2 with the last offical O2 firmware wm2003 1.40.242 WWE on, I`ve also tried T-mobiles 1.42 and upgraded the radio to 1.15 but bluetooth still sucks with a headset!
Maybe you got lucky or maybe its the headset you are using.
Bluetooth reception
Has anyone got an update on this subject since Aug 07?
I have the SX-66 version (Cingular/AT&T)
I have had this phone Since the middle of 2006.
I have upgraded to what I believe is the most up to date programming mods that are available: (other than WM5/6, of which I have planned to do in the near future, I have tons of software and utilities that only run in 2003 edition and I would have to reacquire.)
BA---PH20B1
WM2003 2nd edition
Ver. 1.42.00 WWE
Build date: 09/05/05
Radio Ver.: 1.15.00
Protocol: 1337.45
ExtROM: 1.40.125 WWE
BT- PPC/PE Ver.: 1.0.0.3900
The thing about Modding the chip or placing an antennae jack IS that, all of which that is exposed, in the naked pics of the Blue Angel, are all in fact, canned and can be difficult to expose, to do any modding, without micro precision equipment and a steady hand. I have accomplished modding regular cell phones this way, however, this device is a bit more at risk and can get expensive and messy. I have a few boards, I have acquired through buying spare parts for mine in the case of accidents, of which I have performed with ALL the help of these forums. I will work on this, at this point IF you folks do not have any other alternatives, outside hanging pointless wires hanging around (me thinks that is WHY the bluetooth and wireless technologies were implemented?) With any success, I will report, outside failure, with some sort of procedure and details, that maybe someone with a bit more knowledge and expertise can modify to a possible easier closure on this REAL problem. Sure there are maybe better devices that can, maybe measure up to this Blue Angel, but I love my Angel, even with the flaws!
It has been a great challenge and all of the possibilities that XDA development has brought to the table.
In the last 2 years I have had this phone this is my FIRST posting.
The Bluetooth has been my ONLY real problem. I have to carry it in my shirt pocket using a BT headset and it is still really bad at that. I have used some of the best headsets and gone to great expense, to try and alleviate what I thought, by chance, that I could have finally found one that would superceid
the problem, however, to no avail, I still have the same problem.
If by chance that I could actually find a bigger chip, I think I would have to have the right drivers for it and will have to lead a command string, I am guessing through going to the kitchen and cooking up some ExtROM for the 'moddapplication'?
Blackberry has, I think, one of the strongest chips available. I have a 7100t that i could answer from 300 ft of a house with walls. My 650 isn't that good.
I apologize for being long winded, I suppose I am catching up from not communicating in the past, but I followed the rules of this site, and I haven't needed to ask a question and not needed to help someone else, because you guys have had the answers in these forums. Without further a'due........
Finally, if you have any FRESH ideas or direction on this bluetooth delima, outside using a can opener, .........***please***, let me know............
Best regards,
gcopher
http://www.michellebrown-and-mmd.com
I've just bought a pair of Motorola S9 headphones and whilst overall I'm pleased with them I have noticed one thing. At higher volumes (on the headset volume) there is audible white noise in the background. It is noticable when the transmitting device begins transmitting audio as there is a second or so before the music starts where the headphones go from absolutely silent to a faint hiss. It's also noticable on when listening to quieter songs. I've tried 3 different A2DP transmitting devices thinking they might be the cause of it but in each case the noise was present.
I wonder if other Motorola S9 owners could share whether their sets suffer the same problem?
Neil
Hi problem here
I got an S9 but I can't use it with my O2 XDA Exec. Too much skipping and stuttering. Some one told me that I would need the Broadcomm BT Stack. Which device are you using with S9. The HT820 doesn't have any of the problems u mentioned.
Ciao
I'm primarily using them with an Orange branded HTC TytN running Schap's 4.0 WM6 ROM. Compared with the original WM5 ROM that the phone came with bluetooth audio works flawlessly from both Windows Media player & HTC's Audio Manager except for the slight background noise. I must emphasize that the noise is faint and usually not noticable until you crank the volume up to a high level on the S9s. I've also tried them with a Belkin USB bluetooth dongle and the Broadcom stack and and iTech USB bluetooth dongle and the Bluesoleil v5 stack. Same result for all of them.
I'm just trying to figure out if this is usual or if I have a problem with my pair.
Thanks
Neil
Motorola S9 sweat problems?????????
Hi all, I wanted to share with all outdoor fans my bad experience with the Motorola S9.
First of all, I am a 42K Marathon runner.
Second, I can't run without music I know, I'm weird
Third, I needed a BT headset that was offered as "Sweatproof"
Before you guys to start laughing, I don't sweat oceans of salty water from my ears! I'm just the average guy...
Today, I've busted my third headset in 2 Months! (All of them gently replaced by Motorola warranty)
They gave me a refund telling me that there was no solution for the Summer season, since people sweats more than usual... (WTF)
Any other good BT headset to reccomend?
BTW, the sound quality was similar to heaven using my HTC Touch.
Thanks!
Same Problem - NOT sweatproof
I can concur, just yesterday my S9 stopped working. I can no longer turn the volume up but all other buttons work. I wouldn't recommend these to anyone as it neither works very well as a phone or a long term workout option. I was happy with the sound and how light they are so i think motorola are on to a good thing but some more "road" testing is needed.
commandersnake said:
Hi all, I wanted to share with all outdoor fans my bad experience with the Motorola S9.
First of all, I am a 42K Marathon runner.
Second, I can't run without music I know, I'm weird
Third, I needed a BT headset that was offered as "Sweatproof"
Before you guys to start laughing, I don't sweat oceans of salty water from my ears! I'm just the average guy...
Today, I've busted my third headset in 2 Months! (All of them gently replaced by Motorola warranty)
They gave me a refund telling me that there was no solution for the Summer season, since people sweats more than usual... (WTF)
Any other good BT headset to reccomend?
BTW, the sound quality was similar to heaven using my HTC Touch.
Thanks!
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Same problem here. I've gone through 4 of them in a month and a half. It is by far one of the worse purchases ever. It doesn't matter if it is a 2 mile run or a 20 mile run. The buttons just stop working and it takes 15 days to get a turn around replacement. Don't get the S9 if you plan on using them as they say "for active users." I've just decided to only use mine around the office. Get a different product because these are totally NOT worth it!
I was going to buy a Motorola S9 product, but after reading these review, I guess i'll keep looking for another one.
Any recommendation guys? I'm looking for a lightweight sleek BT Stereo headset mainly for listening to music on my HTC P3600 and laptop , I don't care too much about quality of sound, instead what matters to me most is being comfortable and lightweight.
Anything in mind??
Thanks in advance.
s9 not sweatproof
connorxda said:
I can concur, just yesterday my S9 stopped working. I can no longer turn the volume up but all other buttons work. I wouldn't recommend these to anyone as it neither works very well as a phone or a long term workout option. I was happy with the sound and how light they are so i think motorola are on to a good thing but some more "road" testing is needed.
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I know it's not the most glamourous option, but I wear a headband to sop up the sweat from my head so it doesn't run into the headset. I actually do sweat buckets and without the headband I quickly ruined traditional headphones.