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Working bluetooth headsets for PDA2K?

Hi! Just want to know which bluetooth headsets are compatible with PDA2K. I spent a lot of time in the shop yesterday, but for the life of me, I couldn't get the SE HBH-600 or the Nokia HDW-2 to work with it.
The HBH-600 got paired, but as soon as a call connected, the audio was switched to the handset, with the headset being disconnected. As soon as the call was dropped, the connection to the headset was resumed.
As for the HDW-2, I couldn't get it to connect. I really need a bluetooth headset pronto, because of the incidences of cellphone-snatching here in Karachi, so please could you guys help me out ASAP? Thanks in advance!

Hi There,
I use the Jabra 250 without any problems
Cheers
Pointy

I have tried 4 different headsets with the Blue Angel.
The current winner is the Cardo Scala 500...which is nice because its also the cheapest.

I'm using the older Sony Ericsson HBH-35 with mine and seems to work just fine. My only problems are that the battery on this one is dying a bit lately, but that's hardly the phones fault!

I am using the G2 Bluetrek as sold in O2 shops under the O2 brand.
Works...intemittently...sometimes great - sometimes very noisy - sometimes it looses connection! I also find that it seems to go to the highest volume setting at the start of every call which hurts my ears!
R

Well I have been using a Plantronics M3000 on BT Builds 3500 and then 3900 without any problems

Hallo!
I am using SE HBH 300, works fine with BT Builds 3500.
My older BT-headset Jabra 300 did´not worked, (could not answer 90% of the calls)
/M

Hi.
Im using the HBH 600 with both BT Build 3500 & 3900.
I dont experience any troubles with the 3900 build, only the poor range and sometimes a little crackling sound, but this seems to be the same for all BT headsets with the BA.
You can get the Build 3900 from the ftp in BlueAngel/Cab_files/Bluetooth Upgrades/bt3900.cab

I am using the Nextlink Bluespoon AX. Works fine for me.
R

I have a Sony Ericsson HBH-660 Akono and works great (except for the fact that the headset's display just shows the number and not the name...)
Joao Caldeira

I'm using the Jabra BT800, and it works perfectly, except for the caller ID showing just the number, and an annoying amount of static when going through an solid object (like my head :roll.
This is with bluetooth build 3500, and all the other headsets I've tried with this phone (SE HBH-65, HBH-300) have exhibited exactly the same problems with static through objects... would appear that the phone isn't giving the signal enough juice, or something? :?
Chris

Just took my old G2 to the O2 store and complained about it being so crap. They replaced it with a new O2 (Bluetrek?) one. Inital opinion is that it is a little better but not a lot - still noisy and complaints of it sounding bad from the other end.....

I'm using the Motorola HS810 and it works just great, actually after a soft reset the volume on the headset is too loud !

HBH-65 seems to work ok for me.

bosjo, it's good to hear that you have got the HBH-600 working. I am unable to do so. I had build 3500, but upgraded to 3900 after reading your post. Still no difference. I had noticed before that when I monitored the headset connection using Bluetooth Manager -> Active Connections, the status would be showing me a full signal, and intermittently, it would become red, meaning that the signal would keep going to zero, and coming back to full. This was even when the phone was hardly 6 inches away from the headset, in line of sight. I'm going to return my bluetooth headset tomorrow, and I wonder if I should get my handset replaced as well. I'm worried that since the problem wasn't fixed by the 3900 build, something may be wrong with my bluetooth radio hardware. Anyways, I am open to suggestions.

Look @ this... might help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=17536&highlight=

I have a Bluespoon AX that works perfectly!!
Before that I had a Nokia HDW-2, it worked good too!

Hi all,
It seems the Nextlink Bluespoon AX gets a good press here with the XDA2s - so, where did you guys buy yours???
R

I'm using a bluespoon ax but mine definitely has that crackling sound. I'm using 1.0.0.3900. However, it's definitely not the headset because I've tried it with a magician and it works absolutely fine - friends told me it sounded the same as if I was speaking through the phone.

Sounds like the XDA2s bt stack still needs a lot of work - lets hope a rom upgrade comes out soon which mproves it - there realy is no excuse O2!!!
R

O2 XDA II Car Kit Query

Hi all
Has anyone any experience of the O2 Car Kit like this one
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=57252&item=6382293875
I'm well past the stage where I should have installed and be using one, (the car is a Diesel L/R Disovery Tdi, and not exactly quiet), but I'd like any opinions on the best to use, or any problems that might arise.
Althogh I have a BT GPS Unit, I dont use any Route Planning S'Ware, cause few have any usefull maps of Northern Ireland, so its the call audio I'm really interested in.
TIA for any opinions

Based on the pictures this carkit is the same as the QTek2020 / T-Mobile MDAII carkit.
It is said to be of very good quality.
BUT: It is also said that when using ie TomTom Navigator (or the like) your car-audio will be muted permanently.
This carkit was sold in Germany for approx 170 euro (about 110 gbp). So I would say the current auction price is rather high . . . .
I was not aware that O2 sold this carkit. I am using the XDAII carkit that is/was sold by ie. Expansys. The quality of that thing is not as good. Especially the mic sound is horrible for 'the other side'
BTW there are many threads on this (all approx 1 yr old)

Car Kit Query
Hi Ed
>>Based on the pictures this carkit is the same as the QTek2020 / T-Mobile MDAII carkit. It is said to be of very good quality.
Yes I agree, part of what drew me towards this one is the look of it.
>>BUT: It is also said that when using ie TomTom Navigator (or the like) your car-audio will be muted permanently.
I have considered this, and I'm not sure when or if I would use anything other than 'Pocket Streets', (and its maps of this area aren't that good either).
Most of the mapping I have been able to view provide street level detail, only in Larger Built up areas, and main routes connecting these.
Fortunately I already know my way between Belfast and other towns, As a result I dont know if TT or indeed any of the others would be of any real use. As a result, I really am more curious about the Call audio from the Speaker and Mic, during calls.
>>This carkit was sold in Germany for approx 170 euro (about 110 gbp). So I would say the current auction price is rather high . . . .
yes I found it on the T'mobile (D) site still on sale,
fully agree re the price but .... if it works ... then ... maybe ..
>>BTW there are many threads on this (all approx 1 yr old)
Yes and I think I managed to read most of them, I was sorta looking to see if someone else has lived with one of these for while, and have a experienced opinion on the it, any Rom Upgrades needed etc ...
I'm not sure how much more stress I am prepared to endure to get various aspects of this great unit to work as I hoped it would, (can't afford to be pulling on my hair much more these days)

I have yesterday just bought this car kit from the company advertising it on ebay, first of all the compnay are absolutly brilliant to deal with and would recommend them highly.
As for the car kit i have found three little niggles:
1) it isn't as easy as other car phone kits to place the xda2 into the holder, this is probably the case for most xda2 car kits due to the body of the xda2 itself.
2) any sound from the pda will mute the car radio, this so far hasn't been too much of an issue, but you can always just disconnect the car radio mute lead, but side effect of course is that you would have to turn the radio down when you recieve a call, however it is nice that the tomtom directions etc come out the car phone speaker loud and clear.
3) now this one may not be the car kit itself and maybe just that i haven't managed to find optimal settings or have missed a setting up procedure (if there is one). Basically there is a lot of background noise through the microphone, speech can be heard ok but i haven't experienced this amount of noise from any other kit, however i am going to try and relocate the mic to the middle of the car instead of up the windscreen frame near the driver door, this may solve this.
Apart from that it is a very easy kit to install (would recommend a professional install due to problems of bodged installs and car air bags!), it is of a very good physical quality and have seen it advertised for over £150 in the UK.

O2 car kit query
see now thats what I was hoping for.
thanks macca
I'm just about convinced
now just need to know where my wife hid my c'card ???

macca: Just a tip for the mic: Make sure the airstream from then vents does not reach the mic. I read several threads on background noise and most of them appeared to be created by the airstream blowing over the mic.

thanks edsub, i'll investigate that furthur, i maybe moving over to a orange m2000 soon as i have been offered an upgrade, unfortunatly it won't fit in my car kit, so i may have to sell it and get a xda2i instead. xda2 is great, i just miss the wlan.
david young, glad to have helped.

Brodit kits
I wonder if anyone has any experience of these Brodit Car Kits at pdahut? I do like the idea of ProClip Brodit have so you don't have to drill holes anywhere in your car. Any other suggestion?
http://www.pdahut.com/store/home.php?cat=378

I have Brodit and Carcomm cradles installed and they are both excellent. At the moment I have my XDAII in a Carcomm cradle which is powered and has a serial input cable to which you can connect a GPS Mouse or charge a BT GPS.
The Brodit cradles also have the option of an amplified speaker, in the photos you'll see my 2210 on the right of the steering wheel is connected to this type.
In the UK TotalPDA sell Carcomm and Handnav are the appointed Brodit resellers.
See here for images of the cradles in my car.

I too liked the idea of not drilling in my (leasecar) dashboard.
Afaik there are two options then:
Brodit Procip (plastic)
MTU dashmount (metal)
I opted for the MTU and decided to imitate it myself from a metal plate strip. Its quite easy from the MTU specifications:
http://www.mtu.no/english/DashMount/DM_pdf/70224.pdf
I managed the get the cables through the airvent that is now blocked by the carkit.

Now did I get a bargain or did I get a bargain.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5196552992&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MEWN:IT&rd=1

So long as you want it for an XDA rather than an XDAII then yes.

I have my 2i in a Brodit kit connected to the cigarette lighter and then a bluetooth Motorola HS810...works a treat. Luckily the 2i fits perfect as I got the cradle originally for the XDA2.
I've also got my TomTom wireless BT receiver on the dash...all work nicely (other than ongoing issues with phone mast transfers causing TT lockups)
Aww hell, I'll just take a picture and show you...my only wish is that on the Mini the holder was locked in a bit higher to show off when people drive past
A
PS - yes that IS a Care Bear...that my girlfriend puts there to "watch over me". I have one of those little dog things that Clintons Cards do (the ones with the big heads and little bodies) in the other cup holder. Thought I'd get that in now to avoid the "errr....is that a care bear?" questions!!

griffog said:
See here for images of the cradles in my car.
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Errr....just how many PDAs and phones do you want in your car?? Hehe...

They're not all used all of the time but I need them when performin comparison testing
Actually I tend to use TT Mobile 5 on a C500 most of the time now!

Griffog, yes it is for xda however I had an official car kit, the original I think for xda in the past and that would take an xda 2 quite happily although I never tried it out in the car it charged the xda 2 on the bench ok, what are the issues, is there a wiring difference preventing it working?

Which bluetooth headset do you use?

I don't know which headset I should use with my MDA Pro.
I'm a Plantronics fan, but Jabra also makes good Headsets. What do you think about the new Jabra with LCDisplay? It would be a good complement to use the closed Universal.
Did anybody use this new Jabra?

What model Jabra? the BT800? That one has the number display for called ID. It's good. I did not think i'd get use to it, I prefer the older bt250 style, but it's not bad at all and supports voice dialing.

i got the jabra's BT800 and SE Akono HBH660.. i think i like the bt800 better

@ GM: Is the display a big helper? Does it only show the number, or ist it possible to see the name either?

I am using the Motorola HS850 and it seems to work very well with JasJar.

MBastian said:
I don't know which headset I should use with my MDA Pro.
I'm a Plantronics fan, but Jabra also makes good Headsets. What do you think about the new Jabra with LCDisplay? It would be a good complement to use the closed Universal.
Did anybody use this new Jabra?
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Plantronics hasn't really released any new BT headsets. I'm still using my old M3000 with the MDA II. Try out Jabra since they seem to be the market leader for BT headsets.

bluetooth ...
i've used several BT headsets and the best ones i've used are from SonyEricsson ... I currently use both HBH-300 and HBH-608 and they both work fine on my XDA 2s ... the only thing i've noticed (comparing my XDA 2s with my SE P910i) that the bluetooth isn't as strong compared when i use them on my SE Phone... in comparison with other headsets, i think Jabra has been a good competitor as well as nokia ... i also have the O2 BT headset which is nice and small but the signal is really poor ...
C

I currently use an SE Akono HBH-300 and had an HBH-65 - they both work fine with my XdaII, though the 65 had crap battery life.

I am using the Oakley Razrwire glasses with my Jasjar 95% of time... Bluespoon AX 5% of time. BT has worked flawlessly on my Universal. I haven't had it drop connection not once.

MBastian said:
@ GM: Is the display a big helper? Does it only show the number, or ist it possible to see the name either?
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number only

It's a shame that the JASJAR only sends the caller number to the headset and not the contact name.
I've tried my BT800 on my SE P910i and it displays the contact name when used on that device.

@ Triband81: Plantronics released a whole bunch of new interesting Headsets:
Voyager 510, with extended system für "normal" wired phones
Discovery 320
Discovery 640, only 9g, interesting charging solution
http://reviews.cnet.com/Plantronics_Discovery_640_Bluetooth_headset/4505-5_7-31515626-2.html?tag=top
I ordered mine yesterday.
The Jabra BT800 sounds very interesting because of the display. But it lokks very large on the photos.

i think the bt800 needs the handsfree profile instead of the headset profile w/c jasjar has to display the actual contact name (if you check out jabra's website, almost all ppcpe's are not compatible with bt800). its either jabra released a new firmware for the bt800 or we'll wait for a ROM upgrade for jasjar
rilot said:
It's a shame that the JASJAR only sends the caller number to the headset and not the contact name.
I've tried my BT800 on my SE P910i and it displays the contact name when used on that device.
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I have been using the plantronics v510, and it works very well with the JasJar. This is the only headset that I used when I first turned it on, I had to turn it down a couple notches just because it was too loud. Great headset, I wanted the 640, but couldnt wait for it to be released.

Anyone does know how to redial via bluetooth headset (HBH 660)?

@ guido: Try a "doubleclick" at the main headset button.

Thinking of getting the bluespoon 5g, I have no use for it right now with IIs, Mini and car phone... But after getting the Exec, BT is a must I guess and 5g seems to go well with it ;P

My headset- HBH Sony ericsson 662. Can see phone Number, can use voidial and listen music via bluetooth with Jasjar
:wink:

question:
can someone tell me if on the Jabra BT800 i can see the display while i'm wearing it ?
thanks

decebal said:
question:
can someone tell me if on the Jabra BT800 i can see the display while i'm wearing it ?
thanks
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Only if you have an eye in the side of your head! Sorry .... you can only read it before you put it on.
Kevin

bluetooth stereo headset

Hi,
I am looking for a bluetooth stereo headset that supports A2DP, has CLI and works fine (compatible) with Artemis ( p3300).
The SE hbh-ds980 fits my bill, but I am facing problems with it( mic vol. on headset too low; opp. party can barely hear me). The other two headsets i found so far are SE hbh-ds970 and Nokia hs-12w. Is any1 here using the above mentioned headsets with no problem?
Thanks in advance!~

Hi,
I`m using a Jabra BT620 A2DP headset on my MDA Compact III, works fine!

thanks for the suggestion emiletelkamp...Any more inputs?
bump....

I use the Nokia HS-12W which has fairly good quality audio, but seems to need the PDA to be very close to it to work without skipping.
I usually clip the "body" of the HS-12W to the front of my shirt then put my Artemis (running WM6) in my shirt pocket - Works like a charm that way!
It doesn't natively support CLI, but I believe JetwareMobile can enable this, but I haven't tried it.

I've looked around and there are a few good stereo (earbud) headsets on the market. I also wanted to use my psp through bluetooth also(with the aid of the Ever-E A377 dongle).
My search narrowed down to:
Jabra BT320
Sony HBH DS970 or the 980
The Sony's seem to be the best two alternatives, and have had good reviews.
I'm probably going to go with the 970 as i wouldn't mind being able to control my music from both devices via AVRCP.
I'll get it at the end of the month and see how i do.

DS980 is a lot better than 970, so it does worth the money diffrence.

I couldn't see any features on the 980 that were better, i just put it down to one being silver and one being black.
I'll do some more research.
Cheers!

It's battery lasts 4-5 hours, wich is one hour longer than the battery life of ds970. It has a better and faster software. You can acces your call register(and the phone book also but i couldn't get it work yet).

Sorry to get slightly off topic but I have just bought a Jabra BT320 after reading this and other posts and cant seem to get the stereo (music) to work.
It just plays through the phone speaker, not the headphones, but the handsfree side of it seems to work.
Can anyone help me with this one please?

nezz said:
It's battery lasts 4-5 hours, wich is one hour longer than the battery life of ds970. It has a better and faster software. You can acces your call register(and the phone book also but i couldn't get it work yet).
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Its an nice one just bought it. Didn't get the phonebook to work either have you found a solution yet?
By the way how did you get the track playing in your display?

Motorola H820s
They're around 15UKP on Amazon, they sound great, they charge off USB and the battery lasts for ever, and they have AVRC buttons too. Work great with my Wizard, Artemis, Macbook Pro under Leopard, Belkin Tunestage, etc etc - can pair to 8 different devices too.

ds980
The ds980 works like a charm.
To bad the microsoft bluetooth stack is rubbish so don't expect the track titles and phonebook to show up.
Call history and caller id work!
After some research I found out track titles aren't showing due the lack of the latest Audio/Video Remote Control Profile (AVRCP) version in our phone.
The phonebook only works if Phone Book Access Profile (PBAP) is installed on our phones...
Now lets hope there is some wizzard who can help us with this.

Decent bluetooth headset

Hi guys, just signed up to this forum as I've just recieved a T-Mobile MDA Vario IV. I didn't like it (the operating system so I agreed with T-mobile to send it back and was going to get the N97 when it comes out, as I like the Symbian OS, but decided to keep the MDA now
I was wondering if anyone knows of a decent bluetooth headset that I can use for phone calls as one of my jobs involves alot of driving and it's easier to use a headset. I used to have a Motorola one that I got just after they brought out a law saying that if you get caught using your phone while driving then you get 3 points and a £60 fine. I've since lost the charger for it, and now the headset, so I'm looking for another one. I've looked on eBay, and there are thousands of them, so I was just wondering which ones people are using and if they are any good. I don't want to spend £20 or something on one and for it to be crap, in terms of sound quality, loudness, battery life, etc.
Cheers

I use Nokia BH-503
they're great
works fine with my x1
they are stero though

I use Sony HBH-DS970 on my Uni and work great
Stereo

Sennheiser MX W1 - No Bluetooth but excellent Audio quality.
Whoops, forgot to mention that its just for audio listening, no microphone

Watch the motos BT headsets listed on ebay, there is a ton of fakes going around. I've read this in a few places in the past...

Sony HBH-DS970
orb3000 said:
I use Sony HBH-DS970 on my Uni and work great
Stereo
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Can you see who is calling in the BT head set?
what about the name of the song playing?

Hai
I use nokia they are very nice to use,,,,