Wireless earphones - General Accessories

Does anyone know why there isn't a set of wireless earphones on the market for portable devices?
Is it a size issue, interference from other users, frequency licensing or what?
It seems so obvious a product and yet I haven't found one for sale.

Hi,
HP just came out with some rebranded bluetooth headphones made by Logitech... http://www.shopping.hp.com/cgi-bin/...dfondfgf.0&product_code=FA303A#AC3&catLevel=2
I would buy them in a heartbeat (at $99 they are very cheap, compared to the few other choices way over $200)..., but I am not sure how to make them work on my MDAIII/9090.
Treo

http://www.ppcsg.com/forums/viewtop...t=iphono&sid=6d3d546329a09353b6817f1c28cdca86
there is also these

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Bluetooth headset recommendations...

I'm looking at the idea of getting a bluetooth headset for riding my bike (the self propelled kind, not a motorbike). I'm not keen on the idea of paying ~$AU100 for something I find is useless, so Im after people's experiences and suggestions.
I'm mostly looking at this for listening to music, so first up if that's a no-go, then I need to know that (I'll be using a BlueAngel).
So, yeah... Any suggested models and any to avoid?
i'm using bluetake
http://www.bluetake.com/products/BT420EX.htm
i'm happy with it
I'm using a pair of Motorola HT820s (kinda heavy, but your ears go numb after a while and you forget it), which serve me well and sound good, but has a CSR chipset so i get easy clipping for A2DP, my coworker uses some BlueWalker ones and he says they're nice, they're lighter than the Motos, but still loud enough. A2DP on those, don't know the chipset though.
Unfortunately, for <$100, you're going to have to go for some dodgy yum-cha solution from Hong Kong, off ebay for 5c and $45 in shipping.
I've been looking around, and decided on the HP Bluetooth Stereo Headphones. I don't want voice functionality, and the HT820's look a little big. I ordered them yesterday, but there are reports of people getting them working with my phone (O2 Mini). Don't look dorky, but don't have wires. Only problem is that people report that the neck cracks, but with enough whining you can get them replaced through warranty. Toshiba are also selling the same headphones rebadged, but they're not out in Australia (yet).
Oh, those HP headphones are $99 from HP, free shipping (for the time being).
Unfortunately, for <$100, you're going to have to go for some dodgy yum-cha solution from Hong Kong, off ebay for 5c and $45 in shipping.
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Not necessarily; CompUSA occasionally has the Moto HT820 in the $75-$80 range. I picked up a set there for $70 about 6 weeks ago.
nXZen Plus from Gennum works great
I picked up the nXZen Plus after listening to their demo on their web site of their Extreme noise canceling. Works great, lots of extra pieces to make it fit comfortable. Also supports stereo and comes with a extra Mini plug for your second ear. plug the wire from the mini plug into the back of the Bluetooth Headset & you have stereo. Comes with both AC charger & USB charging cable. Bought mine from Compusa. The sales clerk did not know they had them. I show him their web site with the demo. Cost was $ 129.95. I would not have paid that much for my first bluetooth headset, but this is my third and last headset.
Me and Jed D`Lagged were talking $AU, not $US. Jed D`Lagged didnt mention currency, but did mention Australia. I specified $AU in my first post also.
I was going to order the HP headphones earlier today, but didnt because I decided I also want to buy a laptop from HP aswell, but cant afford to this week.
This one named iTech has great sound quality and is in a small form factor, http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9121031457. I used to use iPhono one, the sound is good but the size is big so this iTech is the only one I found that it's best for both worlds.
I got the HP headphones, and they work "great".
There are still issues (cuts off start of song while it reconnects, occasionally skips) but I'm pretty sure those are stack issues as opposed to issues with the headphones.

Bluetooth stereo headset for HD2?

I am looking to buy stereo bluetooth headset for HD2. I want earbuds, not over the head. Sony Ericsson ds980 got my attention, and also cheaper models like Plantronics Pulsar 260 and Sony DRBT100CX, but ds980 is my first pick so far.
Can anyone point me in right direction?
Thanks in advance.
I have a Magic and I am using this: Bluetooth Nokia BH-214.
Back then I was using HBH-DS970, great sound and good bluetooth performance but the plastic mesh sleeve covering the lanyard part going to the receiver "shrinks" after a few months, exposing the actual wire cables in a "pulled-out" state. If the HBH-DS980 has the same mesh sleeves, I wouldn't recommend it for you.
An alternative is HBH-DS205 which I had next. It has more stable bluetooth connection and longer battery life than DS970/DS980 and its older brothers, DS200 and DS220. Though it doesn't come with in-ear set rather with a standard Bass Reflex earphones, but you have the freedom to use any earphones in the market that has 3.5mm jack. Its only drawbacks are, one, the LCD functions only as a battery/pairing-mode indicator and it doesn't lit up, two, it only has one slider control for both volume and skip track function. But for me it was a good trade-off since it's more convenient to use.
Another alternative choice is the one I have now, a Jabra BT3030. It has complete function controls for music and calls, comes with decent 3.5mm in-ears, and has two options for wearing it, either it be by lanyard or by clip-on. Only drawback I can think of is that it has no screen, which is in my opinion better as LCD screens only add up to battery consumption. Another bonus is that it comes with microUSB port and charger, which you may use to charge your phone with and vice versa. Though these chargers have different ampere output and not entirely recommendable to interchanging use, its a good feel having similar chargers amongst your gadgets, especially when situations that you need them most arise.
had a look at motorola S9-HD? excellent sound
also have a pair of altec lansing 903 - also good sound (not as good as the S9) but better comfort
Yeah, surprised to see that the best ad2p headset isn't even in that shopping list
Get the motorola s9-hd, briefly the best in all aspects amongst all.
I've been using Moto S9s and love em. Great while I'm working out and controls are simple and easy to activate.
Yep, the Motorola S9-hd Rock!
You want the best, then you should buy a Sennheiser MM450 Travel. It's kinda expensive but it has the best sound in the market.
Anyone got any idea what the Sony Ericsson MW600 headset is like? I've got an HD2 and been tempted for a while but reluctant to pay £40 before I find out about them and if they work ok with the phone.
How about somethine like this Sony DRBT100CX seem like what you are looking for. Or the Nokie BH-214. Also, Bluetrek Duo and LG HBS-110
Bunglechunk said:
Anyone got any idea what the Sony Ericsson MW600 headset is like? I've got an HD2 and been tempted for a while but reluctant to pay £40 before I find out about them and if they work ok with the phone.
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someone should really move this to the polls section.
Hi Guys, is anyone using the JVC HA-W700BT with their HD2. I need to know if it's fully compatible with the HD2 as I know many of you are having compatibility issues with HD2 and Bluetooth Headsets.
Many thanks in advance
I'm pretty unsure as well. I dont think I want the motorola s9 cause I just dont want a pair of headphones... I've been looking at the Jabra BT8010 and the Altec Lansing Backbeat 903. Both are basically double bluetooths that still have the mic in your ear.
The Jabra's second earpiece detaches which is nice when you just want the BT part in your ear.
But I've heard the 903's earphones fit much nicer in your ear and the strap around the back is nice plus mic quality is suppose to be great.
On the other hand there are a couple units out there that are tabs that you wear around your neck that have a headphone slot...those are pretty nice...but I think I have my choice narrowed down to one of those two.
Just a final question has anyone used either of these two with a newer android device. I'm getting a samsung galaxy s and I'm hoping it works well with it.

Headphones with built in controls

Im used to using my iphone headphones with the built-in mix and music controls (lost them). Was wondering if any earphones with these features will work with the DX to answer/hang up calls and control the music player.
Im on my way to best buy for an unrelated purchase but would like to know what options I have before I get misled by a sales agent there.
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I have the Motorokr S9. They are bluetooth. I really like them. I have been looking to upgrade and there are a lot more out since I first purchased. I would definitely do some research online before buying from Best Buy.
Update: I went out and upgraded from the S9 to the S9-HD. They are huge improvement from the old model. The sound is so much better. Battery life is still about the same.
jgraham4598 said:
I have the Motorokr S9. They are bluetooth. I really like them. I have been looking to upgrade and there are a lot more out since I first purchased. I would definitely do some research online before buying from Best Buy.
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+1 for the S9
V-MODA Vibe Duo Earbud Headset (Gunmetal Rouge)
Try doing an amazon search for those.
I ordered them a few weeks before I got my DX cause I knew I would need some headphones. And was I pleasently surprised! These 26$ earbuds EASILY surpass the quality of my friends' $100 Bose and $60 Skull candy or w/e earbuds. Plus they are very well built, with a braided cord and a cell phone call start/end button. Oh and the color matches the droid x.
Try em out! I guarantee you won't be disappointed
GoldenCyn said:
Im used to using my iphone headphones with the built-in mix and music controls (lost them). Was wondering if any earphones with these features will work with the DX to answer/hang up calls and control the music player.
Im on my way to best buy for an unrelated purchase but would like to know what options I have before I get misled by a sales agent there.
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The Beats line by the Doctor has Control Talk, which may or may not work completely with Android (leaning towards may not). I believe only the pause
and volume control work, not the next/prev track. Not cheap though. I'm looking at getting the Gaga's for my sister. They better tuck her into bed at
night too for $130!
I want the beats sooooo bad. Can't justify that kinda $ though.
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+1 for the S9
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+2, I've had mine since I had my old 6700, they work great.
I'd also +1 the S9HD's if those blasted ear bud pieces weren't so prone to falling out and getting lost while being transported in a pocket or getting pulled out of a pocket (I can't use them any more b/c this happened to all 3 sizes of ear buds, and I have yet to find a way to purchase replacements w/o buying the entire headset again).
I have a set of rocketfish over-the-ear BT stereo headphones w/ music and call controls. They work quite well and though they take some adjustment on my head due to me wearing glasses, they are also fairly comfortable..... and they're not at all as expensive as the name-brand motorokr's (motorola if you couldn't tell).
I got the V-Mode Vibe Duos too! lol
I agree, very good pair of earphones. Only catch is that the default music player wont pic up the control button. No big deal tho cause you got a nice widget on the lockscreen that allows u to pause, forward or rewind.
I got the Dr Monster Beats too but i THINK they are fake. Friend gave em to me, anyways, the v-modas sound wayyy better and have a very nice deep rich bass!
If you go to amazon you will read a lot of negative feedback, to be honest my v-modas still working just fine!
+1 Motorola S9-HD
I use mine every day.
These are nearly the only headphones/ear buds in existence that will have all the controls work properly on your phone with.
http://www.zagg.com/audio/smart-buds.php
Virtually all headphones/ear buds with audio controls are designed for Apple products. Apple is a terrible company, they make everything proprietary; they switched the mic and ground connectors so they could force manufacturers to make headphones that would only work properly on their bass-ackwards newer Apple products.
Products like these:
http://www.bose.com/controller?url=...mobile_solution/index.jsp&model=mie2i_headset
http://www.sennheiser.com/sennheiser/home_en.nsf/root/private_headphones_sport-line_504603
http://www.skullcandy.com/shop/50-50-black-red.html
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs...10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921666138350
http://www.klipsch.com/na-en/products/image-s5i-rugged-overview/
Will only work on newer-generation iPods/iPhones/etc. because Apple switched the microphone and ground connectors, so when you plug any of the above-linked products into a regular, worldwide standard, normal headphone jack like we have on our Droid X and that a gazillion other devices have, the buttons work sporadically or not at all.
God, I hate Apple. Support Zagg for being nearly the only company in existence to recognize what Apple has done, and accordingly provided a product for everyone else with. Apple would do the same thing with Bluetooth if they could, but they don't own the Bluetooth standard, thankfully; which is why all your audio controls work on any Bluetooth-enabled device out there. (as long as it's not a really old one)
Roland Deschain said:
These are nearly the only headphones/ear buds in existence that will have all the controls work properly on your phone with.
http://www.zagg.com/audio/smart-buds.php
Virtually all headphones/ear buds with audio controls are designed for Apple products. Apple is a terrible company, they make everything proprietary; they switched the mic and ground connectors so they could force manufacturers to make headphones that would only work properly on their bass-ackwards newer Apple products.
Products like these:
http://www.bose.com/controller?url=...mobile_solution/index.jsp&model=mie2i_headset
http://www.sennheiser.com/sennheiser/home_en.nsf/root/private_headphones_sport-line_504603
http://www.skullcandy.com/shop/50-50-black-red.html
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs...10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921666138350
http://www.klipsch.com/na-en/products/image-s5i-rugged-overview/
Will only work on newer-generation iPods/iPhones/etc. because Apple switched the microphone and ground connectors, so when you plug any of the above-linked products into a regular, worldwide standard, normal headphone jack like we have on our Droid X and that a gazillion other devices have, the buttons work sporadically or not at all.
God, I hate Apple. Support Zagg for being nearly the only company in existence to recognize what Apple has done, and accordingly provided a product for everyone else with. Apple would do the same thing with Bluetooth if they could, but they don't own the Bluetooth standard, thankfully; which is why all your audio controls work on any Bluetooth-enabled device out there. (as long as it's not a really old one)
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Another reason to hate Apple... thanks alot man!
i have the in-ear beats. They are AMAZING. the controls don't work though.
+1 for S9 as well.
The Nokia TRRS standard is what everything else uses, Tip = Left channel, first Ring = Right channel, second Ring = Mic/Control feed, Sleeve = Ground.
The Apple TRRS standard uses, Tip = Left channel, first Ring = Right channel, second Ring = Ground, Sleeve = Mic/Control feed.
Funny thing is Nokia started to use that TRRS layout well over ten years ago in Asia. Almost immediately China and Japan adopted it as an industrial standard and every phone manufacturer since has used it too.
Then Apple comes along years later, with all its infinite wisdom on how to do things that will alienate themselves from the rest of the market and switches the second ring and sleeve. So now the mic and controls for Apple headsets wont work with ANY other phone, and you can’t use any other headset with the iPhone unless it is Apple configured.
Things get even more complicated when apple decides to alter the amp setting for the output of their audio. This is even more interesting and dumbfounding: Apples headsets bass range can be driven at a much lower signal power, that means that you can still use the Apple TRS headphones for audio only (no mic, no controls) in any other device BUT you can’t properly use TRS headphones manufactured for the rest of the industries phones because they require a higher signal power to drive the low end. So if you try to use a standard set of headphones with an Apple device the bass will surely suffer. Those issues happen all the time with iPods because of the same configuration of the TRS standard.
With TRRS you get other issues caused by the signal grounding through the control buss, every now and then output from a song will bias a diode or transistor just right to skip the track or stop the song or do a whole slew of different and wacky things.
So if you ever see someone having this issue with a smart phone tell them to get non-Apple headsets.
If you see someone with an iPhone that’s having this issue, tell them to get an Android device. No, seriously though, tell them to get an Apple headset. Same thing goes if they are experiencing poor bass.
So it isn’t that there is only one brand making the correct headsets, its more like a few brands making headsets that only work with Apple. An easy way to identify the difference is Apples control standard is referred to as TapLine. Just buy headsets that aren’t TapLine or TapLineII. A vast majority of ALL the headsets on the market use the Nokia TRRS standard which is what everything other than Apple is configured for, you shouldn’t have any issues finding a headset that will work for audio and voice.
If you want to use Bluetooth, then you have a world of options for headsets, pretty much everything works. I like the MOTOROKR S305, inexpensive, uses micro USB to charge, and has FULL control, even with voice commands.
If you want to save your battery and use corded headsets with FULL control, then be prepared for disappointment. Right now the Droid X does not support phone controls through the headset command controls. You should still be able to control your music player (maybe, that is still a hit or miss), but if you want to answer and end a phone call then you only have the option of setting the phone to handsfree. With the phone set to handsfree answer and the headphones are plugged in, the phone will answer and you just have to allow the caller on the other end to terminate the call.
Roland Deschain said:
These are nearly the only headphones/ear buds in existence that will have all the controls work properly on your phone with.
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I can't repost the link because the forum thinks I might be a spammer.
It was the link for the Zagg headset.
OK, I am confused with your post. You acknowledge that Apple does things differently and that Apple headsets won’t work on other phones, but then you list a link that is for an Apple configured headset. The description on the page states: “ZAGGsmartbuds music control for iPhone” and then contradicts that with: “Compatible with almost all smartphones with 3.5mm jacks” and then it states: “Some non-US smartphones, such as the Samsung i9000, have a unique jack configuration that requires an adapter for use with the ZAGGsmartbuds.” which is yet another contradiction because that phone is the Galaxy S Android phone that uses the Nokia standard. So the description on that page is pretty much saying that if you want these to work with anything other than an Apple device then you need to use a converter.
I hate how most earphones don't work especially my Beats
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the i beats that come with htc works on htc phones and galaxy s 2 phone
the htc i beats are called urbeats and 3 carriers sell them tmobile sprint and att they also have a white solo that works on android
Urbeats
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-pho...id=wUnNWoHhHH2
solo
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-pho...id=wUnNWoHhHH2
both should work with android not iPhone
LiveSound
http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/sto...ab=featuresTab

Have you found truly wireless earbuds for your P2 you are satisfied with?

So the Pixel Buds seem more like Pixel Duds according to the reviews, and I really cannot stand earbuds which don't seal the ear channel. I'm wondering if any of you have founds truly wireless earbuds they are truly satisfied with. I guess likely candidates are
Samsung Gear IconX (2018)
Bose SoundSport Fee
Jabra Elite Sport True
Bragi Dash Pro
Sony WF-1000X
B&O BeoPlay E8
but most revies on amazon/tech sites are hinting that they are just not completely market ready yet.
Really interested in what works best with the Pixel 2. Thanks!
Was actually thinking of buying the apple airpods for pixel 2
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I've been enjoying these Treblab XR500 . I spent like $30 to $40 dollars at most for em off Amazon. They sound amazing. Sometimes you have to resync if u turn them on while music is playing. Can't go wrong either way
saxelfur said:
So the Pixel Buds seem more like Pixel Duds according to the reviews, and I really cannot stand earbuds which don't seal the ear channel. I'm wondering if any of you have founds truly wireless earbuds they are truly satisfied with. I guess likely candidates are
Samsung Gear IconX (2018)
Bose SoundSport Fee
Jabra Elite Sport True
Bragi Dash Pro
Sony WF-1000X
B&O BeoPlay E8
but most revies on amazon/tech sites are hinting that they are just not completely market ready yet.
Really interested in what works best with the Pixel 2. Thanks!
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Live my Jabra's, my pixel 2 will be here on Monday so i can't comment on that yet but the Jabra Sport have been excellent with other phones. Interested as well for others feedback
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Was actually thinking of buying the apple airpods for pixel 2
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I bought airpods. It seems they work fine as long you use only with one devices.
But for me switching between 3 devices (Pixel 2, Android Tablet, Windows Laptop) was a nightmare.
I actually came to a point of frustration when I could not get airpods staying connected to my tablet, so I seriously consider returning them.
I love my Bragi Dash Pros, they sound great and have a lot of feature to them. The noise cancelling is excellent and the gestures are really nice once you get use to them.
Unfortunately, they suffer from the Pixel Bluetooth bug like many other BT headsets (Can prompt voice command, but it won't hear you, supposed to be fixed soon).
The biggest issue I have in general is their Bluetooth signal strength, I haven't had issues using them with the Pixel fortunately but on my OP5, just putting my phone in my back pocket would cause audio to cut in and out.
Odd thing is I could set my OP5 down and go over a room and they would be fine, so IDK.
Anyways:
Pros:
Great sound for BT headphones (especially with V4A!!)
lots of features (Alexa integration just got added too)
Great battery life (definitely get around 5 hours of use out them at work, pop them in the case when I go to lunch which holds a lot of charge, top back up quick!)
Cons:
No AptX
Expensive compared to some of the competition
BT connection could be better with certain devices
Got a Sennheiser CX BT7.00 bundled with the Google Pixel 2 as a pre-order offer. Have been using it for the past couple of days and must say it is making complete use of aptX.
I bought the MEIZU EP52 from here https://www.geekbuying.com/item/MEIZU-EP52-Bluetooth-Headphones-with-Mic-385260.html. They're $37. and sound good, especially for the price. I've paired them with several devices without problems. Also, one very important point is that the headphones are APT-X digital audio compatible. If you don't get APT-X on your headphones, when you watch a video the lip sync will most likely be off. There are reviews available on youtube.
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If you don't get APT-X on your headphones, when you watch a video the lip sync will most likely be off.
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Not necessarily, my Dash Pros don't have APTX and voice/lips are always in sync.
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Not necessarily, my Dash Pros don't have APTX and voice/lips are always in sync.
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Those Dach Pros are awesome looking earbuds! I just realized that this thread was meant specifically for "truly" wireless earbuds. Anyway I was curious and checked the specs for the Dach Pros, apparently they suppport the AAC codec which has low latency. My Pixel 2 uses the AAC codec in my BMW and it sounds pretty good.

USB-C Headphone Adapter

Anyone have on they can recommend? Do they all work or are there certain things to look out for?
BJozi said:
Anyone have on they can recommend? Do they all work or are there certain things to look out for?
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As with many things created, there are worse and better ones. Usually, the more expensive the better. Look for one with these specs: 384khz-32bit. You may not have music which can utilize that spec but generally, this cable will be of higher quality than cables spec'd with lower values such as 192khz-24bit. If you're shopping on "Nozama", your best bet is to look at the star ratings and how many people rate the cable. The more 5 and 4 star ratings, and more importantly, the less 1 star ratings, the higher the chances of the product being a great item. But I'm sure you already knew that. Let me know which cable you go with, I'm looking for one as well.
There are many different ones to choose from, not only for quality of sound but also some may have a more neutral works signature, others may be more warm, etc...
There is a good thread at head-fi.org on this. But for starters, what kind of headphones will you be plugging into the dongle? And what is your music source?
I have pretty expensive iem so I splurged on a pretty good dongle. I mean it really depends.
Thanks both of you for the tips. I went and got the one Google sells during the week.
I tend to use my Sony WH-1000XM3 most of the time. I just wanted something for occasional use of a pair of Blon BL03 I received earlier this year. It's more for convenience and to have the ability to use either when I want to.
As far as audiophile listening goes, I don't think either are to high up there.
I had to buy the original for it to work in my car and also the external mic. Google is pulling an Apple...
AS gar as i know only the ones following the usb-c standart with an integrated da converter work. Most really cheap Chinese ones are Just cable adapter. Because huwawei etc integrated the da into their phones. Which ist actually Not usb-c compliant.
I find the stock Google one to be terrible and does not output enough volume. There are definitely better options but they are far more than 10 bucks.
Don't waste your money for others
The Tempotec Sonata HD Pro is super high quality for the price, if you can live with its form-factor. Because this dongle is a small metal box and not an inline cable adapter, I wouldn't use it while walking around or working out. For desktop / bedside / airplane kind of use it is great. It's available from Amazon for < $40 and probably from other sellers as well.
If you need to use the headphones while your phone is in your pocket and you're walking around, one of the best inline dongles is actually Apple's USB-C Audio Adapter. Note that the Apple dongle has a fairly low maximum volume when used on Android phones, so if you buy one make sure you can return it. Review here: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...pple-vs-google-usb-c-headphone-adapters.5541/
In addition to the Pixel 5-only dongle problem, I have a second requirement. My Samsung S7 has, of course, a 3.5 mm socket - no dongle needed. Which means, and this one matters, I can use an external bettery pack to keep the phone going and still usable at the end of the day.
Does any P5 dongle meet this requirement, too?
I looked at the Tempotec review and discussion. There's a comment about a microUSB socket on the dongle. I'm waiting for my application for access to Head-fi to come through.
In the meantime, does anyone know of a dongle that also allows charging the P5 while a headphone dongle is attached?
I am using this one: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B097ZMZGDQ
It allows me to charge the device while listening to music. I use it to connect to a boombox that supplies power to the device. The boombox is not a Hi-Fi device so I don't need a fancy external DAC. This one sounds fine on the boombox. Great for any old device that doesn't have Bluetooth.
The Apple one is best bang for buck and audio quality if you like a nice flat freq response.

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