Hi QTEK 2020 users!
I have some problems with reconnection BT after have had it turned off, recon I have two alternatives:
1. Reinstalling ROM 1.66
2. Updating to ROM 1.72
Does anyone know if it will work with the version (English) launched previous in the forum? Or do I have to use a Swedish version? If so, does anyone know where to find one?
Hello neighbour!
It is OK to upgrade to the Imate 1.72 rom, but i have to warn you.
It is not more stable than the 1.66.
The best way is to try out the Bluetooth tools.
Google for it, i bet you will find it easily.
Or search in these forums.
Thanks mate!
So what are the problems with 1.72, in what way is it more unstabile? But the update does work?
Ive had 2 hardresets on it, updated it a few months ago. And numerous softresets, with no special reason for it. Could perhaps be some of my programs interfering, but im not shure. Worked fine on 1.66.
Yeah, the update do work. But you have to make a few changes on the roms.
Se the other threads about 1.72 upgrade. Some people have had really difficult problems with the upgrade, making them unusable.
I upgraded my Qtek 2020 yesterday and it works perfect, I had 1.7x ROM before and some extended ROM from Telia and it was SIM locked.
Now I have a "real" Qtek 2020 without telia bootup screens and stuff like that.
I havent installed many 3rd party apps, just agile messenger and gprs monitor from spb. And of course another theme. I hope it will be stable in the future too.
maccis said:
I upgraded my Qtek 2020 yesterday and it works perfect, I had 1.7x ROM.
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What ROM did you use?
I used RUU172602WWE.exe but I think there was an misunderstanding from my side this is NOT a swedish ROM. I dont think there is any swedish rom out with swedish language in the menus.
But this update is with english menus but of course u can choose Swedish as a "locale".
I downloaded this ROM from an ftp that I found a link to in this forum but I dont remember which one, if u wanna download it u can PM me and I send u the link so u can download it directly from me.
Almost forgot if u have a ROM today with "predefined" settings for MMS and GPRS they will be lost with this upgrade. But it took me 5min to type in the settings, you can find the settings on qtek.nu for the swedish operators.
Related
Hi!
I really feel like a newbie when i read all the posts about all the different rom versions, so can someone give me some advice which rom i should use to upgrade to?
I have a dutch TMobile MDA pro, which is still at the default rom:
ROM: 1.12.42 WWE (8/23/05)
Radio: 1.00.02
extRom: 1.12.125 WWE
I am experiencing problems with spontaneous hangs (which might have to do with 3rd party software, but the device itself isnt exactly stable)
but also the radio often just loses signal, which i can only fix by rebooting...
I want to upgrade, but i don't want to spend toooo much time on it. Is there a rom that offers better stability which is easy to install and configure?
Regards,
Casper
Try updating to the latest I-Mate Jasjar ROM. Very stable and fast. I too use a lot of 3rd party applications and games. This is my 3rd day of not experiencing any problem without doing a soft reset in the morning.
I prefer Orange ROM... both imate and orange are the same version though... only that Orange's ROM is released while Imate is still not released
ady said:
I prefer Orange ROM... both imate and orange are the same version though... only that Orange's ROM is released while Imate is still not released
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ady, what made you say the I-Mate ROM has not been released yet? It is true there is a test version which came 2 weeks earlier than the one I am using now which is NOT the test version. Just curious.
Another question please about the NEW Orange ROM. Is it true that the vibrate is always ON and you can't turn it OFF?
I did it!
last week i gathered my courage, downloaded the JasJar rom, found the MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe tool, pressed install, drank a cup of coffee, and was finished!
It went flawlessly! And my T-Mobile MDA Pro has never run smoother!
I couldnt (and wouldnt) have done it without this forum, so thanks guys!
Now its just waiting until there is a new stable rom with A2DP on it, and then i'll upgrade again!
koesper said:
I did it!
last week i gathered my courage, downloaded the JasJar rom, found the MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe tool, pressed install, drank a cup of coffee, and was finished!
It went flawlessly! And my T-Mobile MDA Pro has never run smoother!
I couldnt (and wouldnt) have done it without this forum, so thanks guys!
Now its just waiting until there is a new stable rom with A2DP on it, and then i'll upgrade again!
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I upgraded my mda pro to the latest t-mobile UK ROM straight out of the box. But even then I have the same problems with spontaneous hangs. And reading your success story I gathered all the files JASJAR_WWE_13076_164_10900_wwe_ship.exe and MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe to upgrade to the JasJar rom myself. But as complete newbie who is affraid to mess things up, did you do anything else except unzipping the ROM update and copying the MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe to that folder ? The reason why I am asking I read somewhere that you have to add [CHECKCEID_TYPE]=1 to the RUU.conf file.
Thanks in advance.
JASJAR rom works fine
My T-mobile mda pro NL arrived today and i almost immediately flashed it to Imate JASJAR firmware on the xda-developer ftp. I used the Universal_Upgrade_v1.30.68_radio_1.09.0.zip file which contains:
Rom 1.30.68 WWE
Radio 1.09.00
ExtROM 1.30.153
Protocol 42.42P8
and is dated at 08 february 2006.
This works fine and removes the ugly pink theme and adds some nice apps like skype after customizing. It also has an alternative contacts menu, which has skype integration. Pocket MSN (a not so nice app imho) is also included, although i use the new agile messenger beta.
The bootscreen mentions 'for testing only, not for sale' which might indicate that it is not a final (not sure though).
Thanks it works like a charm.
ROM 1.30.76 WWE
ROM date 20 february 2006
Radio 1.09.00
Protocol 42.42.P8
ExtROM 1.30.164 WWE
I'm using T-mobile UK version with 1.09 radio rom. This version INCLUDES the a2dp profiles, but no pushmail. You can use the blackberry connect software from german t-mobile site on the Universal. so you will have AND pushmail and A2DP.
http://www.pocketinfo.nl/artikel/5561
I think Imate rom is also a nice ROM.
Reading this topic en reading the instructions about bootloader, I have another question. In the instruction ist says to make a factory reset after loading the new ROM. Does this mean that all information in your MDA is wiped out and must be reloaded?
yes the machine is a complete naked beauty afterwards
Hi,
I noticed there is a update available for the MDA PRO on the dutch t-mobile site.
Has anybody tried it already?
Can you post a direct link to the update? Nevermind, got that: http://www.t-mobile.nl/zakelijk/htdocs/page/service/hardware_updates/mda_pro_update.aspx
The worst thing is that I attempted to upgrade my Dutch MDA PRO with I-mate rom yesterday and... now I have a brick. How UNOFORTUNATE, just couldn't wait 1 day!! Will go to a local T-Mobile shop today and try to play a fool (I don't really have to play, I am a fool!!!) and see what happens. Maybe they'll fix free of charge (I still have a warranty).
cheers
This should be the link:
http://www.t-mobile.nl/zakelijk/htdocs/page/service/hardware_updates/mda_pro_update.aspx
The site is in Dutch
includes:
- ms push mail
- msn messenger (new in nl rom :wink: )
- option to personalize icons on the today screen
- new comm manager
- the taskmanager has been included in the startmenu
its in english, has radio 1.10.03
and its alot faster then original tmob nl rom
Is it AKU2?
Is A2DP included? :roll:
On another forum i read that AKU2 is icluded and also A2DP.
Remote SIM access for Bluetooth carkit/headphone is also available
Bedankt voor de update !!! (Thanks for the update)
Does anybody know the differences/advantages/disadvantages between the 1.10.03 and 1.11 radio versions?
What's the influence on the battery life? Has it improved or is it worse than before?
I unlocked the phone first with the buzz program after that i upgraded it with the T-Mobile ROM. Now my mda is stuck at the boot screen after i updated it. anyone know what to do?
it shows:
R 1.11.00
G 42.45.P8
D 1.30.115WWE
With a t-mobile background.
see the following topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=43592&highlight=stuck+bootloader
also try search next time
I have updated my phone from Qtek rom to this rom and it's working very nice. gonna test it this weekend, but all things are in this ROM.
1 thing i haven't seen in other roms is the softkey app. with this app you can select what the softkey must do (other then contacts and calender).
How about the battery icon on the top bar? Can we replace it with time?
Can someone please really confirm if it has A2DP and AKU2 working perfectly.
I have an XDA Exec. I tried extracting the files, but it seems this one have different files with it. Can we still use this using the No ID Tool?
Can someone upload it somewhere? It is moved from dutch site now
it is not moved...
direct link http://www.t-mobile.nl/zakelijk/media/download/UNI_TMNL_130115_130233_11003_WWE_BL101_Ship.exe
Thanks
Hmmm.
I hate T-Mobile Colors otherwise I would upgrade...
Hey is it possible to upgrade WM5 device emulator ?? then we copuld just test it and see what it looks like
Bartjan! can you post some screenshots ? I am interrested to see what the - option to personalize icons on the today screen looks like
Plus is at a decent task manager ??
Regards
Man, just change the theme. What's the problem? The default Windows Mobile theme is included.
I know but the Phone dialer theme is a problem, because if you change it to default in the registry then you loose the video call functionality
Is this rom in english?
I would like to upgrade my mda pro with this rom, it would appear it is english but can someone confirm this please?
As to my knowledge the MDA PRO ROM of the T-Moboile is WWE
But I have not upgraded yet so....
So... The WM6 rom is back up on the dopod asia site!!
http://www.dopodasia.com/download/RUU_Trinity_DOPODASIA_WWE_3.00.707.18_6275_1.46.30.11_108_Ship.exe
Seeing as I'm downloading at a good speed I'm assuming this hasn't been posted as yet.
A rapidshare copy is now also available:
http://rapidshare.com/files/4681657..._WWE_3.00.707.18_6275_1.46.30.11_108_Ship.exe
If anyone has any other mirrors please PM me and I will add then to this post.
(PS. Admins, I thought I would start a new thread for this as the old one is up to about 35 pages)
FAQ:
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Q1: Is This the ANZ Version or the SEA Version:
A1: This seems to be the ANZ version as it is from the ANZ site and the description of the HTC download site is: "D810 WM6 GPS Enabled ROM code for Hutchison ‘3’ and Optus network – version 3.00.707.18"
Q2: I'm having trouble downloading off the HTC link, what should I do?
A2: There is a rapidshare link above, try that. If you are still having trouble PM me.
Q3: What is the difference between this version and the one released a couple of weeks ago?
A3: This is two minor revisions later - This previous release was 3.00.707.16. this is 18. Hopefully this fixed the problem some people were having with upgrading getting stuck at ~30%. EDIT: So far several people are still having this problem.
Q4: Does this ROM fix the TomTom bug involving the device code changing on each hard reset?
A4: According to a post on page 2 it does!
Q5: Is there a new SEA release?
A5: It appears HTC have re-released the same SEA rom with a new date. This seems to make sense as the problem with the original rom was partially related the 3 Australia.
Q6: Will this rom work on devices other than once branded as Dopod d810?
A6: It should, although you will need to remove the service provider lock (SPL) from your device first. Further information can be found here (do some searching and research prior to using this):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299659&highlight=hard-spl
Q7: What is the deal with the languages?
A7: This is the World Wide English (WWE) edition which basically means it is in english. You can install this over a device which is in another language however you device will then be in english.
Q8: Will installing Hard-SPL (see Q6) void my warranty?
A8: Short answer is yet. However, you should be able to switch back to your original firmware etc prior to sending the device in for a warranty repair so you should be able to fool them.
Q9: Does this rom come with office and acrobat etc?
A9: It comes with Acrobat Reader LE and Office.
Q10: Can I read office 2007 files on my PDA with this ROM:
A10: Yes, you need this file:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310832
Note, the link on the original post is dead, have a look at this post for the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1402146&postcount=55
Thats all for now folks.
Oh yeah, shameless plug... If you need a theme for your windows mobile device (WM5 or WM6) please visit my website http://www.wm6themes.com You can also request a personalized theme on the site completely free (just upload an image and I'll create a theme for you)!
Work on HTC P3600?
I'm gonna be upgrading my Wizard w/ Faria WM6 on it to a P3600.
Anyone know if this ROM will work on the HTC P3600?
I'm assuming it will as my Wizard is a Qtek and the ROM is from HTC.
Any help would be great.
Thanks
jetlagjoe said:
I'm gonna be upgrading my Wizard w/ Faria WM6 on it to a P3600.
Anyone know if this ROM will work on the HTC P3600?
I'm assuming it will as my Wizard is a Qtek and the ROM is from HTC.
Any help would be great.
Thanks
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I'm pretty sure it will work if your phone is SP unlocked. (Can't tell you 100% though)
A Rapidshare link has now been added for anyone having trouble with the dopod link. Rapidshare link is located in the original post.
Is this the SEA or ANZ version?
Not sure which it is. I got if off the ANZ site so I assume either they've unified them or it is ANZ.
EDIT: Just copied this of the dopod site so I assume it is ANZ - "D810 WM6 GPS Enabled ROM code for Hutchison ‘3’ and Optus network – version 3.00.707.18"
EDIT2: If anyone does have links to the SEA version please post it here and I will add it to the initial post.
grahamrb said:
So... The WM6 rom is back up on the dopod asia site!!
http://www.dopodasia.com/download/RUU_Trinity_DOPODASIA_WWE_3.00.707.18_6275_1.46.30.11_108_Ship.exe
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This is a repost of ANZ Rom, with radio shipped on ANZ before and some minor change in the OS, probably a bugfix.
Main Changes:
in Application, OEMAPPS
StreamingPlayer
VideoStub
Streaming Video is now called Streaming Media
DLL
In OEMAPPS
Rtsphandler.dll
in OEMDRIVERS
rilgsm.dll
wavedev.dll
Removed CommManagerRes_dll.cab
All the other files seem to be the same: there are 1175 different files but as to me it is due to a new packaging.
The most interesting part, except streaming media, are the two new drivers rilgsm.dll and wavedev.dll
I'm trying to install these different files on my device... wavedev.dll seem to have cause my trinity to stuck at the animated boot screen with sound (a personal hack in the registry). After a soft reset the animated boot screen has been disabled. Rilgms.dll should be related to radio search and roaming switching, and probably is installed to support the new radio shipped. I've radio 1.46.00.11 and can't turn on the phone anymore
All the above is a mine investigation, if you think I'm wrong you can correct me. I'm open to learn more...
Ciao
Carlos..
Are u running this new rom then..
Stai usando questo nuova rom?
Grazie,
itlinux said:
Carlos..
Are u running this new rom then..
Stai usando questo nuova rom?
Grazie,
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No, just trying to update my lasagna by hand, but it doesn't work.
To see the differences Ive extracted the two roms and made a binary compare between files..
PS: After removing these two dlls my animated splash worked again and my phone too...
Ciao
Is there also a new SEA version. I don't have a Dopod device so my P3600 EMEI does not allow a download.
claros said:
No, just trying to update my lasagna by hand, but it doesn't work.
To see the differences Ive extracted the two roms and made a binary compare between files..
PS: After removing these two dlls my animated splash worked again and my phone too...
Ciao
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so is it working now? you made the update? Since I have the TIM version of the phone will this work? Thanks and btw, which two dll are those that need to be removed...
itlinux said:
so is it working now? you made the update? Since I have the TIM version of the phone will this work? Thanks and btw, which two dll are those that need to be removed...
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No, i din't made the update and you don't need to remove any dll.
If you want you can install it, if your device id supercid. But probably you will not found any difference from the one you are using, apart from streaming media that i've never used...
Ciao e buonanotte, mi è passata la sbronza e vado a letto...
I cannot find a new SEA rom. They changed the ROM date in the website - D810 WM6 English Version Upgrade code (2007/07/10), but if you try to download it goes to the same file - D810_SEA_WM6_Upgrade_20070709 - released before.
Fixes TomTom bug and works on UK Orange SPV M700
Hi all,
Having installed this ROM last night, I just thought I would let you all know the following:-
1. It FIXES the TomTom bug/incompatability whereby the Device Code keeps changing each time you Hard Reset! For me, this is *the* MOST important fix.
2. It works perfectly on the UK Orange SPV M700 version of the Trinity. In fact, there is no need for SuperCID or any of that lark, just unlock the phone from Orange (using the sticky thread in the Trinity Upgrading forum) and away you go. My advice is to press the Reset button right at the end of the initial date/time/screen alignment setup to stop it installing the Extended ROM.
3. This is the ANZ (Aus/NZ) version of the ROM, but it IS WWE (World Wide English)
I've only been running it and using for a few hours, but currently, all seems good. Definitely worth trying I'd say.
Regards, Moz.
I've tried it several times now, but somehow can't get past the 28% mark.
Tried all the unlock tricks...
Somebody a suggestion ?
Vilem said:
I've tried it several times now, but somehow can't get past the 28% mark.
Tried all the unlock tricks...
Somebody a suggestion ?
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First flash with this one..
http://rapidshare.com/files/42190781/D810_SEA_WM6_Upgrade_20070709.zip
tukan said:
First flash with this one..
http://rapidshare.com/files/42190781/D810_SEA_WM6_Upgrade_20070709.zip
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What's the difference ?
Vilem said:
What's the difference ?
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After this step you can flash the "NEW Dopod d810 WM6 ROM" without the 28% error.
I got several questions:
1. Can I also install it on a P3600 with German language (I know that it is in English then, but that´s better anyway)?
2. My Triny is not branded (bought from Amazon). This won´t be a problem?
3. Is it branded then, because it´s a Dopod Version?
4. Can I still install German programs like the German Tom Tom or Langenscheidt Dictionaries or do I need new versions for WM6 and/or the English BS?
5. Is a English PDA compatible with German Outlook
6. Is also Office Mobile, Acrobat etc. onboard?
7. Will I loose my guarantee?
8. Can I go back to the official German WM5 in case of Problems?
9. Can I use this Update straight from my Vista PC or do I also need to change some dll´s?
10. Are any functions like European 3G etc. disabled, when installing this Australian version?
11. When the update stucks at a certain %, can I still update the other rom to use this update later or do I have a problem then?
Please, forgive me that I post so many questions.
Thank you so much for your answers.
Ok i removed ipl and spl from this rom , changed spash screens and flashed with customRUU.
Working fine so far.
Since I installed WM6 I can´t recieve incoming calls. The phone lights up but nothing more, and when I click on the reception or phone symbol when it lights up it says "no service" (translated from Swedish).
It was also some problems with Active Sync 4.5 since I upgraded, but those problems might just be because I needed to reinstall it.
Does anybody please know how to fix this, otherwise tomorrow it will go to the repair-shop and I will lose 12 days and the order in my life. : (
The sim-card works on another phone and it worked with WM5, and I have tried hard reset and a reinstall of WM6, but the problem persists.
/Danne
Hi,
Did you try to install an offoicial version of WM6 or one of the cooked ones of this board? If the latter did you take all the necessary precautions first eg installing an upgraded bootloader, etc?
If you have not you may have bricked your phone.
Give us a bit more detail so we can see how we can help.
Cheers
WB
hello
I had the same problem when I upgrade to official WM6 HTC rom, the phone don't ring and I loose the network.
I solve the problem with flashing the radio rom with older version.
I put wm6 on my phone the first day I got it. so I don't really know if this was a problem b4 with wm5.
mine only seems to ring my end after about 8 rings from the dialer so I have to get it within 2 rings b4 voice mail kicks in. Ypu think the if I update the radio as well will that help me?
ps. sorry for hi-jacking your topic seemed along the same line.
the same problem with Bouygues telecom!
Hi guys,
vinzcoyote can you tell me which radio version you put? i'm having the same problem with Bouygues telecom after updrading to WM6
thanks for the help.
C. J.
are you sure the phne settings havnt got blown out?
generally after about a day after i flash on a rom i lose my carrier settigs and i get no connections. i use the cnguar provisioning cab that is floating arond to quickly fix this.
CrunchyGremlin said:
are you sure the phne settings havnt got blown out?
generally after about a day after i flash on a rom i lose my carrier settigs and i get no connections. i use the cnguar provisioning cab that is floating arond to quickly fix this.
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Sorry but i'm new to this: whats the "cnguar provisioning cab "?
thanks
CJ
Hi everybody,
Sorry it took a while to answer (sleeping time).
I installed the official version from HTC Europe and it it only the incoming calls that doesn´t work, I can call other people.
THE SOLUTIONS
Two solutions seems to have been offered (below) but I (as Curious Jack) are new to this so could you please elaborate of give a link where I can read more?
Vinzcoyote "I solve the problem with flashing the radio rom with older version"
CrunchyGremlin: cnguar provisioning cab
Thanks so far.
//D
Hi there
I had the same problem with mine after flashing to wm6 (but on a trinity)
Apparently there are 2 fixes:
1. Get a NEW sim , or
2. Flash radio rom back to an earlier version that was used with wm5.
Hope this helps
luckydip said:
Hi there
I had the same problem with mine after flashing to wm6 (but on a trinity)
Apparently there are 2 fixes:
1. Get a NEW sim , or
2. Flash radio rom back to an earlier version that was used with wm5.
Hope this helps
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Thanks!
Two concrete solutions.
One last question: I use a Swedish OS - do the radio roms that is under: "Extracted Radio ROMs for your Hermes" work for me? Or only Anglosaxian PDA:s?
/Dan
similar problem discussed here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1442269#post1442269
in fact Palm Treo 750 (HTC Cheetah) and Hermes are based on the same radio module.
latest Palm Treo WM6 Radio version: 1.47 (Qualcom)
What that Palm utility does is simply downgrading radio to earlier version. This might work for Hermes in bootloader mode as well.
My point is: no need to install hard sspl if one can downgrade to earlier version of radio with _official_ radio downgrade tool.
I will try later and report back.
update: Palm Radio downgrade tool picked up that device is incompatible. no luck so far.
Seems problem is with Bouygues Telecom
Hi Guys,
Got the exact same problem with Bouygues Telecom. I put a Orange Sim card and it is working so I assume the issue comes from Bouygues Telecom.
So that to check, are the french guys all on Bouygues Telecom or are you using other Telco operators?
Frederic
SOLVED : WM6 & HTC Tytn & Bouygues Telecom now working
Guys,
to make it work, you need to flash ROM Radio 1.38 on top of Windows Mobile 6.
ROM Radio 1.38 can be finded at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtractedRadioRoms
what version did you use? There are few of them listed on that page:
1.38.00.01
1.38.00.10
1.38.30.10
Hi,
I'm completely new to all this but I have done my best to try and figure it all out for myself but I'd still like to make sure I've understood a few things correctly...
I have an SFR s300+ bought here in France. The OS is WM5 and I'd like WM6.
I have allready tried out the "off"+"camera button"+soft reset to see if I needed to install a hard SPL : I do.
I've downloaded Des' Crashproof (due to the reassuring name) SPL.
I can now install that by following the guide without backing anything up yet (correct me if I'm mistaken)...
Once done I will have to copy all my important info and then I will be able to flash any ROM of my choice (English, French, official or not) is that right?
If I'm not mistaken and I can now install any ROM, which English ROM is the best?
I'd also like to know if I have to install a radio after this or will the one I have at the moment (that works fine) be preserved?
If I do have to install a radio which do you recommend for SFR in France considering I sometimes go to Spain.
One last question ; does installing an update to WM6 require a product key or registration of any sort like Windows on the PC or can I just flash and use freely?
If anyone takes the time to answer any of my questiions I would be very grateful. Thank you in advance.
Yes, install the ROM you like.
Best ROM? impossible to answer - lots of good ones about - try bepe black and blue karmba, mary - any recent English ROMS.
Although you do not NEED to install another radio - you probably SHOULD because your battery life under WM6 will be terrible with your current radio.
I would recommend 1.46.00.11 - although an radio from 1.41 upwards should be OK with SFR and on other networks in other countries. (I'm an SFR customer and connect in Belgium, France, Switzerland, Italy, UK etc.)
You will not need a licence key key to work with WM6.
Happy flashing.
Thanks for the answers!
Ok, well I'll give it a go when I'm a little less tired and report back...
One last thing, the battery life under WM6 comment got me wondering, is it worth the hassle (WM6 that is)?
I would guess so considering all the WM6 ROMs that people have gone to great lengths to make...
All opinions are welcome and appreciated.