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Changed Sim - White Screen

So I have been using my imate PDA2k without a hitch, purchased it unlocked, and was using a local carrier somewhere in Europe (Voda). Went to T Mobile in the same country and put the sim in - BOOM - white screen on startup and it seems to have reset because I heard the pings to indiate screen alignment.
Took it home, used My Mobiler to looksee what is happening. Its all working fine, the screen and everything, its just white! And after several Power/Reset button resets everything is still there but on the device - white screen only. Power on battery and backup indicated 100% but backup battery for a while said "needs replacing" - then on settings now its 100%
The touchscreen works! I reinstalled the password and when I touch the white screen in the places of the four numbers, its ok!
But its all white! What can I do?

hi and welcome to the forum.
there are basicly two options to what could have happened, either something got messed up with the rom and after the sim changed it was triggered and went completely wrong or while changing the sim, you accidently caused a hardware defect.
another way to try that is: put the device into bootloader mode!
the way to do that is press power+record+reset. maybe hold the power+record a little longer after resetting.
if your device screen shows SERIAL V2.0x (where x is a number from 5 to 7), apparently your hardware is ok and just your rom broke. in that case, after you claimed you already hard resetted, you might want to flash that rom again. if i read your post correctly, you are still running wm2003se. if your carrier does not host your rom anymore, you can always refer to xplode's shipped rom archive here: http://firmware.atspace.com/Blueangel.html
if your device still shows only white, either when trying to access bootloader mode, or after re-flashing, yo might have harmed your hardware. you might want to check for a replacement screen. if you want to have a look inside your device, whether the display cable maybe broke, here is a link to the service manual: http://rapidshare.com/files/336406555/HTC_Blue_Angel_Service_Manual.pdf
i don't think it can have anything to do with the backup battery, but if that really was the reason, here you find a thread with someone, selling them: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=551886
or you could upgrade your rom to wm5 or above, then the backup battery is not needed at all.

Thanks for the great response!
So I waited about an hour of using it with My Mobiler but with a white screen only on the device, and then waited a bit, and and just pressed power and reset again to see if yet another reset would work - and it did.
It was so strange that the previous times I tried to reset it didnt seem to work at all. But I knew that the screen was ok because I used My Mobiler and could press the password for the device on the white screen ok, guessing where the numbers were, and it activated fine.
So strange, but its all ok now. Thanks guys - this device is 5 years old!

mymobiler is a remote connection to the device, so that does not necessarily shows, that the screen is working, because it uses the usb port to determin, what the display would show, just like a remote desktop connection to a pc can work, even when your vga or dvi cable is broken, because picture information is sent through lan or wlan then, with a virtual graphics driver. also for some people, the touch feature worked fine before without the screen showing anything, because that is also another layer, that is transmitted through the digitizer. it could really have indicated that your display flex cable was broken, which is why i went both ways in my answer.
i am glad to hear it works again, just posted to clarify a few things
also, if you ever get tired of wm2003, make sure to have a look at d-two's wm6.5.3 rom in my signature and in this thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=569869
back in the day, when i still used wm2003, i felt quite excluded in mobile developments of the last few years, because many 3rd party applications would just work on wm5 or above and with that rom you can be up to date and use a lot of new features, which make the phone feel less like an old pda and more like a new phone. but now, that your device works again, of course that is completely optional.

Great Tony!
Although I am a little afraid to flash the rom to WM5 or 6 I should give it a go.
Im happy with the BA the way it is with some GUI software!
Thanks again!

i also had different gui improvements installed on wm2003, but still it didn't feel to fingerfriendly, which is important for me, because, let's face it, the BA is a modern phone, not some geeky 90s PDA , so fumbling around with a stylus is just not cool. also, whenever i looked on engadget i was incredibly envious of all the cool apps and GUIs. whenever i looked at ppc freeware pages i saw that most games, media players, browsers... would just work with wm5 or above, and after i found out, that it is incredibly easy to make your BA become a modern device (i would even go as far as calling wm6.5.3 a 2010 phone), i decided i want that, to kick every iphone's butt, to install any app i want, not to be forced to install 20 programs after a hard reset anymore, because everything already works fine and looks nice. i mean, these days, you hard reset, the extrom installs windows marketplace for you, you log in with your live account, it downloads everything you had installed/bought from there, including microsoft myphone and when you start myphone, you are already logged in, so it syncs all your pim data with the internet, and you have everything back. back in the day i was afraid i would lose everything i set up for ages if i ever had to hard reset, these days it just takes an internet connection and 20minutes of your time, to have your phone completely back up after flashing a new rom. it is amazing. before upgrading (the procedure for windows xp is to be found in the 2nd post of the link above) you should still make a backup of all your data, either through pimbackup (freeware by dotfred) at http://www.dotfred.net/ or with spb backup, available at spbsoftwarehouse as a trial version, in case you want to go back. about those backup apps, pimbackup is great because you can schedule backups of all your important information, also stuff that is not synced, like sms or the call history and restore it to any other rom or even other device, but it does not back up your installed programs (most of which you won't need anymore anyway.). spb backup on the other hand makes a backup of the entire system, and can restore the exact state of the device after a hard reset, including all installed programs and those programs settings, on the downside, those backups are worthless on another rom, just work for hard resets.
that was just a fair warning, because not everybody is happy with wm6.5's battery life and performance, especially when coming directly from wm2003. i started with wm6.0 and so i am used to those disadvantages, and since the roms get better with every new release, it is actually an improvement for me every time.
also i need to tell you, that by tomorrow, there will be a new rom released build 23518 by egzthunder1. yes, although the number is not higher, that rom is newer. but since none of us know, if that rom has any bugs, it might not be right to start with that one right away, you should probably try the one from my signature / from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=569869 (same thing) because there, the bugs are known and listed. when you have found your way around the new OS, you can still switch roms in about an hour, as stated above, you travel light with the new roms, and as long as your pim data is backed up and you follow the instructions, everything will be fine.
with best regards,
Chef_Tony

EDIT: oops, double post

Chef_Tony said:
if you want to have a look inside your device, whether the display cable maybe broke, here is a link to the service manual
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I don't know if I can post this here, kindly let me know if this is the wrong thread to post.
I have xv6600 yes I am still using it
It seems that I have broken my Display cable as I don't get any display.
But sometimes when I Slide the keboard in and out many times I do get display.
I took it to the local mobile reparing shop and he says that the cable is broken but I will have to change the complete LCD, as it's not possible to change only the display ribbion.
I was a bit worried in changing the complete lcd as I am not sure what quality of LCD he is going to use.
I would like to know if it is possible to change only the display ribbion. and where can I get one. Your help will be greatly apprreciated I really love this handset and don't want to leave it
Thanks in advance

have a look in the service manual, there you will find the exact display used in the device. there is a photo of it on page 55.

Thanx a lot Tony for your quick reply, this forum is great I have learned a lot from this forum over time.
I saw the display from the service manual, infact the mobile repair guy had opened my phone and shown me the display, but I was concerned if there is any chance that i can just repair or change the ribbon instead of the complete diplay.

i haven't opened up my device, yet. i'm glad i never had to, but from all lcds i know, i think that the flex cable is integrated in the display unit and only has a plug on the other side, so you cannot detach it. also, you should think about costs. the cable alone probably wouldn't be any cheaper than the entire display and if you had it assembled in a local shop, changing the flex cable only (if possible) would be much more work than replacing the entire unit, so causing more costs. actually, i believe the cheapest way would be, buying an entire new BlueAngel. new devices go for 100eur here in germany. the official retail price for a display unit alone is 130eur.

Windows update - what if

So I was thinking, after a error I received when updating my MCE PC.
In regards of PC when microsoft issues an update of windows 7 they do not have to think to much about hardware it is running on as drivers are done by manufacturer, ATI, Nvidia, intel or other. If they ever release a driver via windows update, any other driver the same, if all goes tits up you can go to safe mode and roll back drivers.
Now in case of WM6.5 drivers or other updates were downloaded from phone manufacturers website so they knew best how to mod it for their hardware and if all went tits up you could do a hard reset. Only good, tested mods went in to rom update.
Now with wp7, if I understand correctly, updates will become part of the original rom as there is no rom flashing by user. It has to be like that as if that would not be the case then hard reset could make the phone broken for hours until all your updates were up. So what if microsoft screws up and gets it wrong on their server and lets say HTC downloads a update for LG? It will screw up the phone and hard reset will not help. It does happen for PC's. With time there will be plenty more hardware out there so mistakes will be more likely. All you need is touch screen drivers to be buggy and phone might boot up but no access to it at all.
Who will take the blame for that? At first it will go back to seller on warranty but if there was a mass problem they would say no.
Look at apple, they release an OS update it is permanent. As they only have like 4 phones to deal with it is easy to test it. With time there will be plenty of wp7 models, just look at wm6.5.
How are we protected from that not happening?

Pretty sure updates are tested extensively by microsoft as well as the carriers.
How would WP7 be different than any other mobile OS in this regard?

i think desktop to phone comparison isn't really correct. with windows phone, MS knows what phones are being made and therefore can keep a proper database of these phones. why? well MS provides keys which get built straight into the memory of the phone (the issue with the HTC HD2 not working with WP7). so you won't just get any joe blogs install windows phone 7 on whatever they feel like it (as you do with wm6.5/android). so therefore, it's very rare that you'll get issues where the phone gets incorrect software not intended for it as MS can manage it properly on their servers, as well as pull anything that were rolled out straight off the phone (e.g. if an app misbehaves but somehow makes it through to marketplace, they can send a command to uninstall the app [same as iOS/Android]).

greener88 said:
Pretty sure updates are tested extensively by microsoft as well as the carriers.
How would WP7 be different than any other mobile OS in this regard?
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On WM6.5 updates are seperate little programs, patches, if one does not work well with your phone or certain app you hard reset and not install it next time.
With WM7 all goes in, updates rom image and you are stuck.
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i think desktop to phone comparison isn't really correct. with windows phone, MS knows what phones are being made and therefore can keep a proper database of these phones. why? well MS provides keys which get built straight into the memory of the phone (the issue with the HTC HD2 not working with WP7). so you won't just get any joe blogs install windows phone 7 on whatever they feel like it (as you do with wm6.5/android). so therefore, it's very rare that you'll get issues where the phone gets incorrect software not intended for it as MS can manage it properly on their servers, as well as pull anything that were rolled out straight off the phone (e.g. if an app misbehaves but somehow makes it through to marketplace, they can send a command to uninstall the app [same as iOS/Android]).
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You can compare with desktop, in case of desktop and WM6.5 you could select what to install, also you could always revert back if there were issues. With 6.5 by hard reset and reinstall minus not working app, on PC by rolling back the system.
As said above in WM7 when it is in it is in (that is if I got the info right).
In regards of keys, all you need is typing error. In regards of not working apps there is few that work on some WP7 phones and not others. Mistakes and half finished apps happen. I feel the same will happen with WP7 updates. Probably not now but look 2 years down the line where there will be 100's differant phone models.
Who will test all the updates, not MS and when update is out it is out. If the phone does not boot command to uninstall is not going to help. Especially that we are talking OS update. Apple can not send a command to rollback iphone 3gs from new-est os to one below.
Uh perfect example is apple where first release of iphone 4 os to 3gs did not work to well on all handsets, it was quite slow and they had to make another update. All users that did do it were stuck.
At the end we are talking MS, they do make mistakes. They do a lot of them on normal PC updates where patch does not work as expected.

I think you are mistaken. Every official update that has ever been done on my winmo phones was a full new OS and radio. Complete with hard reset.

nrfitchett4 said:
I think you are mistaken. Every official update that has ever been done on my winmo phones was a full new OS and radio. Complete with hard reset.
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No that is 6.5, wm7 will be more like PC, no rom updating just small patches integrated in to rom via windows update.

ruscik said:
On WM6.5 updates are seperate little programs, patches, if one does not work well with your phone or certain app you hard reset and not install it next time.
With WM7 all goes in, updates rom image and you are stuck.
You can compare with desktop, in case of desktop and WM6.5 you could select what to install, also you could always revert back if there were issues. With 6.5 by hard reset and reinstall minus not working app, on PC by rolling back the system.
As said above in WM7 when it is in it is in (that is if I got the info right).
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No that is 6.5, wm7 will be more like PC, no rom updating just small patches integrated in to rom via windows update.
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that was the same on wm6.5 and after a hardreset the update was still there (not working on custom rom's because they ripped the modules )
but MS didn't used it allot , Da_g has a whole thread of it explaining how cooks could use it to update there rom's from there own servers and .cert .
but a lot of cooks won't use this because you cannot protect your rom's any more
and ofcourse not cool for us ORD dud's

Microsoft specify the CPU and chipset to be used by every manufacturer, it is part of the specifications they have to adhere to to be granted a licence to use the WP7 OS.
Therefore the update should never brick the phone, as if it works on one it will work on all. That was kinda the whole point. It's a solution that sits in between the ass-crack tightness of Apple and the Grandma looseness of Android. I call it the Kylie zone.

Jim Coleman said:
Microsoft specify the CPU and chipset to be used by every manufacturer, it is part of the specifications they have to adhere to to be granted a licence to use the WP7 OS.
Therefore the update should never brick the phone, as if it works on one it will work on all. That was kinda the whole point. It's a solution that sits in between the ass-crack tightness of Apple and the Grandma looseness of Android. I call it the Kylie zone.
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The Kylie zone
On that screens are not the same so here is one, then touch panel on screen, charging units or even sound output sockets. There is a lot. With time also chipsets/CPU will change. Like for example snapdragon 1.5ghz that is somewhere near to come out.
Ceesheim ok so it is there but not used. However you could always revert back to stock rom in 6.5 (unless total brick where bootloader not working) by means of download and flash. For WP7 we do not have that and there is no word about it ever being there officially. So if you brick via update you have to send it for repair.
I suspet MS did not use it to much for the same reason I am thinking off. Look at how many differnat devices there are for 6.5 with hardware ranging from identical to completly different.
I guess time will tell how it will all work, general idea is sound it is just that I do not feel comfortable with fact that if a update screws up my device I have to send it for warranty or shell out for repair.

ruscik said:
The Kylie zone
On that screens are not the same so here is one, then touch panel on screen, charging units or even sound output sockets. There is a lot. With time also chipsets/CPU will change. Like for example snapdragon 1.5ghz that is somewhere near to come out.
Ceesheim ok so it is there but not used. However you could always revert back to stock rom in 6.5 (unless total brick where bootloader not working) by means of download and flash. For WP7 we do not have that and there is no word about it ever being there officially. So if you brick via update you have to send it for repair.
I suspet MS did not use it to much for the same reason I am thinking off. Look at how many differnat devices there are for 6.5 with hardware ranging from identical to completly different.
I guess time will tell how it will all work, general idea is sound it is just that I do not feel comfortable with fact that if a update screws up my device I have to send it for warranty or shell out for repair.
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we can revert back by flashing a new stock rom ( look at http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=783 all the roms there can be used )
there are a lot of people who did that with a phone that had a demo rom (shop phones ) and after flashing a new rom al was working normal .

I'm sure we'll all be totally fine. The bootloader will stay intact, so even if you screw up the normal update. You could always flash the old rom on top with the bootloader still intact.
The only way your idea would work is if the bootloader itself got messed up in the process.
And in 6.5 you couldn't update your HTC Diamond 2 with the normal Diamond, or HD2 firmware. There are checks at the beginning to make sure this is for this exact phone. And in some cases, the checks even implemented being locked down to the region. We only were able to put whatever ROM we wanted to put on our phones when we totally took off that protection. And even then I believe you wouldn't have been able to put a ROM that wasn't meant for the phone on there.

ceesheim said:
we can revert back by flashing a new stock rom ( look at http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=783 all the roms there can be used )
there are a lot of people who did that with a phone that had a demo rom (shop phones ) and after flashing a new rom al was working normal .
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Uh did not see that. Good then.

Kin (Two) Hotkeys

Hi everyone... as i'm pretty much stuck with my device... i'm gathering all the information we have found on the hotkeys.
Yeah, i'm so bored to try random key combination...
And yeah (2) there are some new key combs... (ha!).Anyone brave enough can help booting with the remaining keys hold.
Tested keys (pair): q , w, r, m, b
Enter APX mode (Nvidia flash)
Hold U+S+B+ Power
Prints nothing, enters APX mode
Enter Ms Pink Bootstrap mode (aka SBL mode)
Hold L+S+ Power
Prints nothing, enters SBL mode
Clear Storage memory (reset phone)
Hold C+B+ Power
Prints a Phone image (and reboots)
Unknown, possibly downgrade the phone to original OS
Hold R+B+ Power
Prints a "reboot" arrow (and reboots)

Was reading up on Fuses, Lock Bits, and idenitified the Samsung moviNAND 8GB is part "KLM8G4DEDD-B101". Using the Samsung's Decoder pdf, found "S3C49VDX01 Controller" so did a google search and found this website
http : / / forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S_Series
There's a few modes on that galaxy phone. The button combinations probably won't work but if you are bored, try them out.

Not so bored but, they dont work. This mobile is a PITA wherever you look at it.

I did the "R+B+power" on my KIN TWOm and i got the reboot screen, then i got a screen saying "Updating modem Please do not remove battery." i got scared and took out the battery. then when i put it back it it said the updating modem thing again and i just let it sit, it finished rebooted then asked me to set up my phone and it was asking me for my windows live email, but it wasnt working so i click setup later. I had the kin studio on my KIM TWOm of course it didnt work but this might help someway.

Interesting, maybe it's a kind of restore hotkey (who knows hehe).
My problem is that it doesnt work removing the battery (removing for a little time) or letting it update (i left it about 2-3 hours updating and autoresetting till the battery died).
Maybe you could connect to verizon and get the OTA update.
If you didnt have the Loop (for kin studio) before, it just mean, as expected, that the kin twom is just a kin two with a software update removing loop and restore-able with this hotkey.
I do not recommend its use though

I now have the original KIN software on my phone using this method. Irritating that it will not sync with my hotmail, most likely because of no cloud server connection. I have lost all of my contacts.(thank god for the facebook phonebook) The spot is convenient. I find it interesting that the phone still retains the original OS.

If the original software is back, can't you use Microsoft Exchange Active Sync to synchronize contacts? Have you lost other stuff, like Zune music, etc?

I have a couple of questions:
Since you now how the original OS on the phone ...
How does it show up on the Verizon network? Is it still being seen as a Kin Twom or the original Kin Two that required data?
Is the Wifi and built in Facebook app working correctly?
Can you forward video through MMS using the Kin Stop?
I just wish there was a way to get some direction from Conflipper. It really did look like he found a way to get deeper into the original OS, even though he said he hadn't found a way to dump the ROM.

amlex said:
I have a couple of questions:
Since you now how the original OS on the phone ...
How does it show up on the Verizon network? Is it still being seen as a Kin Twom or the original Kin Two that required data?
Is the Wifi and built in Facebook app working correctly?
Can you forward video through MMS using the Kin Stop?
I just wish there was a way to get some direction from Conflipper. It really did look like he found a way to get deeper into the original OS, even though he said he hadn't found a way to dump the ROM.
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Not quite sure of the first question.
The wifi works but the loop does not because I can not finish set up, when trying to sync with my hotmail it displays a message that it cannot connect to windows live.
Yes the Kin Spot works wonderful.
I'd like to add that videos do not work.
Feed Reader will not refresh my feeds.
OTA update does not work almost everything requires a connection to the KIN server that does not exist anymore.

Rebooting Kin ONEm
Update on R+B+Power Button.
1. I performed this on a KIN ONEm, NOT a KIN two. I recommend that the forms be combined as efforts to hack both devices are very similar.
2. To answer a previous question: NO, ACTIVE SYNC DOES NOT WORK WHEN LOADING THE OLD KIN ONE SOFTWARE. HOWEVER, it does not seem to work because an error message pops up and says:
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Your plan doesn't support Exchange sync.
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SO: for people who want it, I would be interested in knowing if anyone with a KIN ONEm does the software reset and then asks Verizon for the plan. It could possibly work.
3. A DISCOVERY: pressing the R+B+Power a second time on boot kicks the software back to the "m" (as in ONEm) mode. I don't know if it's the same for the TWOm... but I bet it is. In any case, if you want to play with the original software, there seems to be a way to get back easily. FYI: It took me a couple times to do it right... and there is a pause before you get the updating modem screen and after you see the return arrow symbol. Be patient and try a couple times.
4. FACEBOOK and TWITTER and WINDOWS LIVE all do not seem to work either, giving various messages about "try again later" or "cannot connect." I wonder why. I expected the facebook address book to work re: an earlier post. I could not get it to work.
FYI: I decided to keep the "m" software as the studio does not exist anymore. For all of us too cheap to buy the data plan, I guess we don't have a big excuse to be too cheap to go to the verizon store to get our contacts synced up once in a while. To do this, I bitpimed my contacts to my old phone and then brought the old phone in. If anyone can figure out how to renable active sync or simply upload contacts - great, but until then, I may have to switch back to my old phone.

Thanks for the info posted above. It's good to know that this hotkey lets you switch and switch back to the old version (well, "m" version).
The only thing i dont like is the "update modem" (or OTA update) need, cause it probably means that you depend on verizon to get things done (like B+R+Power + get OTA).

R+B+power doesnt work on my phone?
When i try the button combination it just brings up the normal message of "Turn off? your phone will turn off now" It doesn't reboot like everyone says it should? one thing i should add is this phone a little different from the first kin twom, i'm not sure how but when i went to verizon to get a warrenty replacement the lady said "we need to send you a kin twom..two" confused i said "this is the second version?" she said "no its newer.. it's hard to explain" the only difference i can tell so far is that on model number there is no longer a hand stamped M after it. It's printed on the sticker. so maybe i'm stuck with an even more locked down phone?

BenDyer said:
When i try the button combination it just brings up the normal message of "Turn off? your phone will turn off now" It doesn't reboot like everyone says it should? one thing i should add is this phone a little different from the first kin twom, i'm not sure how but when i went to verizon to get a warrenty replacement the lady said "we need to send you a kin twom..two" confused i said "this is the second version?" she said "no its newer.. it's hard to explain" the only difference i can tell so far is that on model number there is no longer a hand stamped M after it. It's printed on the sticker. so maybe i'm stuck with an even more locked down phone?
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You have to turn your phone off and then turn it on using the button combination to reboot.

mooing said:
Update on R+B+Power Button.
3. A DISCOVERY: pressing the R+B+Power a second time on boot kicks the software back to the "m" (as in ONEm) mode. I don't know if it's the same for the TWOm... but I bet it is. In any case, if you want to play with the original software, there seems to be a way to get back easily. FYI: It took me a couple times to do it right... and there is a pause before you get the updating modem screen and after you see the return arrow symbol. Be patient and try a couple times.
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Hey I'm wondering if you lost your contacts when you booted back into the kin "m" mode. When you went into the original software, you lost your contacts. Now when you booted back into "m" mode, did you lose your contacts as well? Also, did you lose anything else? I want to test this with my kin twom but at the same time, I don't want to lose everything I have. Thanks

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You have to turn your phone off and then turn it on using the button combination to reboot.
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oh jesus, all that did was do a factory reset. I lost everything, and it's still the twom software.. now i'm confused

BenDyer said:
oh jesus, all that did was do a factory reset. I lost everything, and it's still the twom software.. now i'm confused
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It should have given you the original kin software?

I guess that doing it just for fun is kinda stupid.
Be ready to lost everything and/or **** the phone testing random things. You were advised.

corey124 said:
It should have given you the original kin software?
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I've gotten the same error. It didn't give me the original Kin software. It simply did a hard reset and deleted everything off of the device. It showed the arrow however, afterwards it simply booted up into Kin. Nothing came up hat said upgrading or anything. Could there be a KinTwoM - 2 that doesn't even come with the original Kin Two software? If it'd help I'll post a video on what happens.

fazi13 said:
I've gotten the same error. It didn't give me the original Kin software. It simply did a hard reset and deleted everything off of the device. It showed the arrow however, afterwards it simply booted up into Kin. Nothing came up hat said upgrading or anything. Could there be a KinTwoM - 2 that doesn't even come with the original Kin Two software? If it'd help I'll post a video on what happens.
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It is possible, I've heard of a second generation kin twom. So maybe you have the unfortunate problem of having one, which may exclude you from future hacks.

Well R-B-Power works.....but you lose everything
So curiosity got the best of me last night and I tried the r-b-power method to update the modem and then boot into the original kin os with the kin spot and everything. The only down side is that I lost everything on my phone. Which really, other than a few photos (and the pain of having to add all my contacts again) really isn't that bad. By the way, my Kin is the Kin TWOm with a hand-stamped "m" underneath the battery, so I guess it would be called "first gen Kin twom". It booted back to the normal kin os after I did r-b-power and my phone was still activated. So anyone with a 1st gen Kin twom can try this, just be warned that you lose EVERYTHING.

Anniversary update trashed touchscreen...

I've a Win Jr LTE phone & the update ran while I was out, despite telling it not to run updates without my express permission - it has now screwed up touchscreen so the phone is entirely unusable. Does anyone have any suggestions?
NB: telling me to "do a hard reset & lose everything" is NOT a suggestion I want to hear, since its not a viable option in this case, since backup on the phone hasn't worked since I got it on multiple cards & via onedrive.
I can't use browser or keyboard, anything with controls at bottom of screen is useless, there (of course) is no obvious way of re calibrating touch screen so the phone is effectively useless.
Apologies if in wrong place but the site doesn't seem to do anything other than lag, or make choices for me I didn't select.
I would strongly recommend NOT installing this (version ends. 67) as it appears as buggy as usual Microsoft efforts and has been bricking some phones completely I have since found out.
Jemma

the issue is known (by now, think it wasnt the prior cause otherwise the device should not have received the update). the problem is somehow the os uses a wrong resolution 540X960 instead of 480X854 which ****s up the touch
two options: opt in into release-preview-ring of the insiderprogram and get the .82. maybe it already fixed the problem. second option: going back...
use external display application on your pc or pair a bluetooth mouse/keyboard if its impossible to reach the insider options (be ware: if you havent signed up as insider before it may take up to 24hrs till you will find new builds)

Yeah, I had guessed it must be something like that, because the touchscreen reacts differently from one side to other and from top to bottom.
It's frustrating though because I can remember screw ups like this from Microsoft 20 years ago and they're still making same elementary mistakes, and it's not as if specs for these phones are hard to find or there's unknown multitudes of windows 10 phones out there, like with Android..
Windows 10 honestly has the potential to be excellent but if someone with 20 years IT engineering experience can't fix it for herself because the tools just aren't there then what hope non technical people? And they are just the people who will give Windows 10 traction.
Has anyone managed to find any files that set environment variables like in android?
PS if someone builds an equivalent of the Nokia E7 running Android or Windows 10 let me know, I'll happily bite their hands off, much prefer a good hardware kbd.

im pretty sure there is no way on the blu devices to interop it and made registry editing possible (should be an easy task to modify the setting for the screen resolution). you could sideloading vcreg after activating dev mode, but im pretty sure it wont be able to write reg values and cant research atm where the value for the resolution is stored

vcreg works only on Lumia

I've tried the feedback and the insider updates and I can't get to either of them because of the screen. Is it possible someone could put this up on feedback for me as I'm sure I'm not the only person with this issue.. Microsoft would only have to release a very small patch fix to solve this issue..
Thanks in advance

Strange "RootPA" app on my HTC 10. Is it a potential security issue?

Im using a HTC 10 (EU variant). Today i was scrolling through "Netguard" (if you dont know it, its an app to prevent other apps from internet access), since i configured it to show system apps it displays way more apps than the normal app overview in the settings. In there i found an app called "RootPA" and one called "root", which seems strange since i didnt unlock the bootloader or root on my own. The details in the RootPA entry say "com.gd.mobicore.pa", no idea if thats helpfull to determine the origin of this mysterious app.
Can you help me with this?

Did you Google it?

I did, but the results were not realy usefull. I found someone with a modded Galaxy S3 who deleted a RootPA on accident and broke stuff, but that ssems unrelated. Are there any things i could do to find out more about the app installed on my phone without root?

I cant say its something I've ever seen. If this person in the past removed it, and it broke stuff, that would suggest that it may have been a system app and he was rooted. From what I managed to find on google, it is part of a security suite (mobicore) used by networks to monitor what the state of the phone is, presumably incase something happens, and it was the user fault, and they know for a fact because they have logs of what the phone has done.
[ACCESS_NETWORK_STATE] Allows applications to access information about networks
[INTERNET] Allows applications to open network sockets. (i.e send information)
[READ_EXTERNAL_STORAGE] Allows an application to read from external storage.
[READ_PHONE_STATE] Allows read only access to phone state.

A friend of mine got his HTC 10 2 days ago, ill ask him to look for this app. Its unlikely we would have the same virus/whatever installed.
Edit: He just reseted his 10 (due to missing language options, but thats another topic), but still found "root" and "rootPA" on his phone, so its preinstalled (although i still dont understand whats its purpose).

RootPA is provides service for provisioning secure applications that run on ARM trustzone and t-base OS (formerly mobicore). It is preinstalled in some vendors Android devices (search for this string on the internet: htc-devices-to-incorporate-trustonic-t-base-tee), but mostly unused as far as I know. The source code of some versions is available on the Internet (e.g. on github /Faryaab/android_hardware_samsung_slsi_exynos5410/tree/master/mobicore/rootpa).
It has nothing to to with rooting or unrooting the device.

PA route is very dangerous I had some I have somebody who has hacked into my phone through this particular program so to speak I have a lot of issues right now with my phone trying to get them off of my phone and this seems to be the root cause or the start of it have anybody knows how I can clear my phone and my Ram from the Vicious hacker I appreciate it I'm tired of being watched and recorded everything I do

Illfidusoon12 said:
PA route is very dangerous I had some I have somebody who has hacked into my phone through this particular program so to speak I have a lot of issues right now with my phone trying to get them off of my phone and this seems to be the root cause or the start of it have anybody knows how I can clear my phone and my Ram from the Vicious hacker I appreciate it I'm tired of being watched and recorded everything I do
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PA route..... .rootPA ......2 different things. Hacked ? Unlikely, I think some OCD is kicking in. Want to be clean? RUU the device and do not restore anything