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So the IIs's (what IS the plural of IIs??) arrived today so serious playi.... er ... product familiarisation has begun.
First off, the colour of the O2 version is very nice (I think the II is looking old fashioned already). The case is ok (I'm not a case fan, I prefer to just lug it around in my pocket).
The keyboard is probably far too fiddly to ever get used by my normal sized pinkies but the blue backlight means that it will look good next to my PS2 even without BT turned on!!!!
The software seems to be up to scratch too, they've even added a decent battery life monitor to the Active and Today screens (The Active screen actually seems fairly usefull this time round!). Not had much of a play with the additional software, apart from those that came with the latest Xda II ROM upgrade ("phone Alison" ....... why is it dialing Colin??), but the GPRS monitor is a welcome addition.
Now onto what, for me, is the most essential part - WiFi and Bluetooth. Let's not beat around the bush, the II was rubbish for both, only really with the latest ROM was the II capable of anything like decent performance with BT Headsets and still didn't support Handsfree. As for WiFi, I used a Sandisk SD card with my II and it was a pain to connect.
Whilst waiting for the release of the IIs we've been playing with iPaq 4150's which have great BT & WiFi tools that even our execs could use!
*WiFi*
Turned the phone on at home and it immediatly sniffed my network (Linksys router) and asking to connect prompted me for my encryption key followed by faultless connection to the internet. Exxxxcelent
*Bluetooth*
My boss had a Nokia CK-7W carkit fitted a few weeks ago, oh how we laughed when the latest II ROM still rendered the II useless in his car!!!! So it was with slight trepidation that we turned the ignition on only for the IIs to find/bond and work perfectly with the kit at first time of asking.
So all in all I'd say that O2 must have actually been listening to us after all (despite not updating the website FAQ's properly since the original Xda). We have a few very good contacts within O2 and had seen a fair amount of info prior to release and received assurances on the above functionality, but I have to say that I didn't believe it till I saw it all with my own eyes!!
Now for some serious testing to see if it's beauty goes further than skin deep
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Nice report
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...("phone Alison" ....... why is it dialing Colin??)...
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:lol: similar experience when my friend was trying out the Fonix voice stuff on his XDA II. We were in stitches at his attempts to phone my mobile (with "Phone Dave Mobile") and it either not understanding or coming up with a suggestion which was hard to see why it thought it sounded like it. It even suggested a number for my friend's expletive of "Oh f**k this" :roll:
lol,fonix is hours of fun for all the family ........... cos it could ring any one of them when you're trying to phone your boss!
The next big test for the IIs will be the built in BT phone kit in the 5 series BMW, hopefully one of our directors will be around today to give it a go.
does the bluetooth in new XDA IIs support audio through your headset?
it would be great if it did, but i doubt it
WiFi / gprs bridging
Can the gprs internet connection be shared out through the WiFi? I'd like my notebook to see it as an access point and use it's network access. Never got this to work with xdaII bluetooth and my powerbook, Apple's BT stack doesn't recognize the widcomm bt "server".
I'll buy one tomorrow if it can bridge the 802.11 and the gprs!
Audio through your headset? not sure what you're wanting it to do here but I'll list the options on the BT new connection Wizard
Hands-free/Headset Setup
ActiveSync
Browse Files on a remote device
Connect to a network
Join a personal network
Exchange Business Cards
Explore a Bluetooth device
As for sharing the GPRS connection via WiFi, it may be possible if you set the connection on the Xda to NOT connect to the internet, otherwise the WiFi settings seem to overide GPRS. Sorry not much help! Couldn't you link them up with BT instead?
GOOD NEWS though
Successfully paired up the IIs with a BMW X5's built in BT phone stuff so it's another tick in the box for O2
Can you hear your MP3's or tomtom voice through your bluetooth headset?
no
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So the IIs's (what IS the plural of IIs??) arrived today so serious playi.... er ... product familiarisation has begun.
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Hi there
great report
just a quick question..........I have been ringing o2 daily to enquire about the arrival and keep getting told that it is 'next week'........where did you get your unit from ?? I tried o2 Salisbury on Thursday and they told me that they hadn't received a release date yet !!
cheers!
The phone is out at o2 now, has been since late Thursday evening. It will not be in the stores until Wed/Thu next week.
just call up and order it. I did
Could somebody with the XDAIIs please post the extended Rom files.
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The phone is out at o2 now, has been since late Thursday evening. It will not be in the stores until Wed/Thu next week.
just call up and order it. I did
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Just rang o2....allegedly it will leave tomorrow for delivery Tuesday !!!
thanks for letting me know !
NP, what sort of a deal did they give you? (If you don't mind me asking?)
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Could somebody with the XDAIIs please post the extended Rom files.
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I would also need them... please
I ordered ours through our dedicated o2 business team at the beginning of the week, as our commodity manager sent us the product code when the launch got delayed (internal pakaging problems!). The advantages of working for a big company with a corporate o2 deal!
Price wise we don't do so well on hardware, prob cos we pay next to nothing for line rental, I think they were 350 gbp each (ever noticed how u don't pay as much attention when it's not your money?), all "in contract upgrades". I'll double check when I get to work.
Anyhoo, a big box arrived on Thurs and opening it revealed 11 cool gadgets! Still waiting for the accessories to be released though.
I'll check for the cab file later.
Could somebody with the XDAIIs please post the extended Rom files
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How to do it?
Unlock extRom using the unlock tool attached.
reset device
Browse to the extended rom from your desktop computer and copy the files - zip them up and post them here.
is extended rom unlocker the same for Himalaya and Blue Angel?
It unhides both, but it doesn't unlock the Blue Angel. But you can copy the files out of the extROM once you can see them.
Hi just to let you know, TomTom have just released their upgrade from either TomTom Navigator 2 or 3 to Navigator 5. This can be found on their website.
It costs 59 Euros and your getting the whole of europe on cd plus the new software interface.
I've just ordered my copy. Lets hope it doesn't take 5 weeks to arrive
It can be found here..
http://www.tomtom.com/shop/upgrade.php?action=pda&TT=6148c3366d84713d07ab4770d8adb478
Cheers,
lydiachris
When its says maps for the "whole of europe" I'm pretty sure this is the "major roads of europe" we had on tt3. Anyone who's used this, and I have, will know its pretty crap unless you will only ever travel on motorways and the bigger 'A' roads. I was in northern France and ended up junking it and going back to a proper map.
JD
personally, I disagree. It isn't 'dust road through an orchard' perfect, but it is a hell of a good (free) tool, which just got me door to door 1530 miles through three countries (including ferry crossing) without a hiccup.
just a thought.
BTW, Still can't access TT5...
Yeah I agree. Bloody good bargin for 40 quid!!!!!
Regarding the upgrade link, if you go to www.tomtom.com or the link above, they are doing maintence work to their website, no doubt to put a direct link on the homepage or something. Keep checking. I orderd mine this morning, so its def released
By the way the link is working again now...
http://www.tomtom.com/shop/upgrade.php?action=pda&TT=a301d69d2537572d4c3b04701cbe6039
or this one...
http://www.tomtom.com/shop/upgrade.php
Cheers.
Has anyone actuallt either eceived their upgrade yet or had confirmation it has been despatched by UPS?!?!
Mine still states "warehouse" :roll:
Mine still says 'Warehouse'
Does yours still state warehouse?!?!
Yes. Just checked.
Does anyone know when they are going to be released as many people have actually received their upgrades!!!!!
Can someone ring TomTom direct?!
Cheers,
lydiachris
Mine has now shipped - delivery by UPS within 1-2 days
hi! i have found the shop selling parts of Universal.
Universal Body;dopod, T-Mobile. FSR, Jasjar in shop
Also TFT screen and stylus
Keyboard panels were not there, but they said they have infactory.
<it is not sure becuase they are not honesty sometimes>
they have also Treo Boday, iPAQ boday and even a Nokia and Moto which has not released in market yet!
<mot Q empty boday also in that shop>
those are seems from OEM factry, just guessing!
i bought one T-Mobile boday for my Jasjar.
Quality seems to be same as Original one.
Any way, if need more infromation, pls inform me!
Re: Repaire Parts for Universal are sold in China Digital Ma
Price?
Richard
oh! that is important for all of you!
those who guys to selling those in other market, do not get mad me!
1; body for Universal =280 RMB/ set
black body for universal=380RMB / set
(set included lower boday, upper body, Cover, battery cover.
Not inclluded keyboard panel and small rubber parts/screws)
2:Screen for Universal = 1500RMB
US$ 1.00 = 8.00RMB
do they had Dopod CHT key board panel ?
Thanks
now currenty they didnt dispay any keyboard pannels.
once i asked them, they answered me they will have 2~3 days later,
but i went again after 2~3 days, still they didnt have.
their speaking is not correct always<as you know customs here
i also asked them to bring T-Mobile Key, but not yet...
i guess the keyboards were from factory so they dont have soon!
but i have one T-Chinese keyboard from Broken Dopod.
pls PM if you need that!
Hi Asukal,
Do u know whether they have parts specifically the audio jack or main board?
I think the audio jack in my machine is jam with something or broken so that it keeps detecting that my headset is always inside....
Thanks.
Cheers,
they only have patrs of plastics,
unfortunatly, they dont have any mother board or metal parts
yet,,,
they will have in near futruer<<they say :roll:
any way, i will keep on watching them and report you!
http://asukal.seesaa.net/article/18269948.html
Hey Asukal, where about in Shenzhen is the market? Cos I'm going there in the summer (working).
How can I buy online
I partially broke my screen and could be interested in buying the screen. How can I order from them. And are they honest, did anyone try. Many people warn me from buying online from china.
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Hey Asukal, where about in Shenzhen is the market? Cos I'm going there in the summer (working).
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oh!
if you come,,,pls let me know! i will accampany there with you!!
i alway in here in shenzen,
you just ask Peoples in there where is Cell Phone & Computer Market in shenzhen, i can not spell corectly, some like "Hua Chan bei Lu"
every boday can tell you.
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ehabh said:
I partially broke my screen and could be interested in buying the screen. How can I order from them. And are they honest, did anyone try. Many people warn me from buying online from china.
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i understand you what you want to say,
if you need i will help you to buy,, i am not sure onlin shop for them.
the price will be changing day by day,,
i will ask the price again tommorow if you need,
Asukal said:
oh!
if you come,,,pls let me know! i will accampany there with you!!
i alway in here in shenzen,
you just ask Peoples in there where is Cell Phone & Computer Market in shenzhen, i can not spell corectly, some like "Hua Chan bei Lu"
every boday can tell you.
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Arigato gozaimasu!
I'll be in an industrial district/town called LongGang, about one-hour drive from LoHu (the train station on the Hong Kong-Shenzhen border). Will the market be anywhere near there?
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I'll be in an industrial district/town called LongGang, about one-hour drive from LoHu (the train station on the Hong Kong-Shenzhen border). Will the market be anywhere near there?[/quote]
from Luo hu, 10 to 15 minitues by Taxi, called "Fu Tian Distric."
Many Building and thaousands of shopes selling parts,
Oh... Fu Tian. I've heard of that place before.
Have you managed to install the new housing? Was it difficult? I heard it is not an easy job.
Seems like someone's going to make lots of money... NOT! http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Original-O2-E...itemZ9733399786QQcategoryZ15039QQcmdZViewItem
That price is way too steep... I won't be surprised if he hasn't managed to sell any yet.
tyo change housing, not so easy but can do,,,,,
take time and carfully.
Someboday selling....
becouse my prices are domestic wholesaler prices.. so you can feel
reasonable or cheap/
but once they are in shops in HK,, it will be W-or Triple prices.
I ts no way....
so we must share the information to get cheap one,,,
even me in china ...
i bought some battries for my friends,, at the beggning price was RMB220/pc,
other day i found 150RMB, one more other day,,
found 125RMB/pc
china is the place like this....
work around,,or wallets will be lighter and lighter!
i am still working around to find better!
It's the same in Hong Kong: I once found a shop selling extended batteries for the Dell Axim X50v for $280, but after a 10-minute journey I found another shop selling the same batteries for HK$240. Things tend to be cheaper on weekdays in the market place as well.
Do they sell complete body-sets (with keyboard panel and so on), including instructions ?
I have a T-Mobile one, but would kill for an unbranded cover (especially a black one )
now we can found,,
1;Boday and keyboard pannel
2; 3 x parts of Hindge,,,(but some times no in market
4:LCD housing
but,,, the parts are not equal conditions.
*some Housing missing small swithes,,slider siwitches,
also difficult to find Action Buttons curently
*screw nuts which should be inlaid boday are missing,,
some of them have it,
go and vist several shops, then you can compliete
*small ruber parts such like on the bottom, are not available yet,,
but some of parts can be used from your current device.
Manual is on Dvelopers.com FTP,
Sorry for being geeky but have you seen any HTC-branded housings? It'd be pretty cool to have one.
Hi,
Am I missing something here? Just upgraded to xda Orbit. All working lovely jubbley.
But....no SatNav software (CoPilot I think should come free with it). There's nothing in the box except the usual stuff....unless I'm being really stupid and it's right under my nose?!?! Where should it be??!?!
Anyone? Or am I not entitled to the free software as I am not a new customer?
Any light shed most appreciated.
I think o2 only gave away Copilot on the higher tariffs, otherwise you had to pay for it.
Possibly, but I'm on £50 / month.
Plus it says nothing about it on the website: https://shop.o2.co.uk/phone/O2/Xda_Orbit_-_Sat_Nav
Have they just forgotten to put it in the pack? Should it come in the normal box or in a seperate box?
Anyone know?
HPJ said:
Possibly, but I'm on £50 / month.
Plus it says nothing about it on the website: https://shop.o2.co.uk/phone/O2/Xda_Orbit_-_Sat_Nav
Have they just forgotten to put it in the pack? Should it come in the normal box or in a seperate box?
Anyone know?
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Its not preinstalled on your memory card is it?
No....but have found an answer.
Looked on another forum and saw posts detailing NO CoPilot software unless you order online.
I am an o2 select customer (as most are I think anyway....) so used the phone to upgrade.
Well unhappy about this, but then again, I love a good argument (esp with o2), so watch this space, will have my free software by the end of tomorrow if it kills me!!
Thanks for any help given, and if anyone has any ideas about how to get this freakin software it would be most appreciated.
HPJ said:
Possibly, but I'm on £50 / month.
Plus it says nothing about it on the website: https://shop.o2.co.uk/phone/O2/Xda_Orbit_-_Sat_Nav
Have they just forgotten to put it in the pack? Should it come in the normal box or in a seperate box?
Anyone know?
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They send it out separately so may arrive in the next few days. But if I was you I'd ring them up and find out for sure. On a £50 tariff you're definitely entitled to a free Copilt. The Copilot pack should include memory card, CD, car charger and car mount.
Great, thanks for the heads up! Think I will go easy on them at first then!!
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Looked on another forum and saw posts detailing NO CoPilot software unless you order online.
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Not quite true. Online gave away copilot on any tariff, but have now changed to the same as the high street where you get it free on the higher tariffs only. Ring them and get it sorted.
I upgraded over the phone but am an online customer (billing done online as opposed to paper statements sent thru the post each month). I got everything bundled into 1 box, should be 1 o2 branded box for the phone and a separate one for the Co-Pilot stuff.
Spoke to o2 this morning. Apparently I am eligible for the CoPilot, however o2 had neglected to order it....no surprise really.
Anyway, its on order and will be with me shortly...again, apparently....!!
Will keep you update,
Thanks.
Many thanks...due to this topic I called O2 and suprise suprise they found the Co-Pilot software in the store I should have got free. Went straight down and got it....thanks for the info.
Eoin
Had a right nightmare upgrading mine with O2 over the phone mate.
After the usual yes you will give me what I want conversation I got em to agree to including the copilot and the handset for free.
Phone turns up...... no copilot anywere.
Call to customer services, "no notes saying its included sir"
"well I suggest you listen to the call" I said. "I wanna speak to the bloke who upgraded me (insert time date and name of operator) "
He calls me back, makes his appologies and explains he's sending it out today. Turns up next day, on a MINI SD Card!!!!!
Called back (again) explaining the problem, rather miffed by now. "only one I can order " he says
(Me banging my head against the wall icon)
Finally get him to send me a Free Micro SD card to put it on, principle really as I'd already ordered a 2GB one
Just shows how sometimes the operators haven't got a clue! rant over LOL
Everyone be calm...I have received my CoPilot.....everyone can now relax!!
Only joking, but yes it is here.
So, in summary, o2 need a hefty nudge now and again. But we all knew that, didn't we?! If you ain't got your free software, a few well placed calls will do the trick.
End of thread methinks. Thanks for your help.
I do not remember that I got how many "friendly" clew from eBay,net,newspaper and TV, that do not ship any item to Italy. And last week, my dell latitud cpx series laptop battery was shut down,I need a replacement battery for my dell laptop battery urgently.In fact,finally I got it from http://www.my-batteries.net and paid it already.Now I got an email that they do not ship to Italy,and give me a full refund and say Sorry to me ? Where I can purchase my dell 1691p laptop battery is ? I ask this question to many sellers on the net,Got one answer,most of the package was lost in Itlay due to the very bad Italian Post Office:
Why ??? Itlay is on the moon!!!!!
I an Italian citizen for fifteen years,here Italy gave birth to Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, Caravaggio, Raffaello Sanzio, Enrico Fermi.now seems to be it is simply the worst place to live on the Earth, with the worst Post Office all over the world.
What's your opinion about Italian Post Office?
"Italy" as a sort of "risky Country",?
i live in italy two.
Yes, the italian postal office sucks, if you want to receive packages from out of italy specially china and HK.
they charge non existant custom fees for anything that arrives out of UE. i did pay 5.16 euro custom fee for an HTC usb to 3.5 adapter that costed 5 euro!
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I do not remember that I got how many "friendly" clew from eBay,net,newspaper and TV, that do not ship any item to Italy. And last week, my dell latitud cpx series laptop battery was shut down,I need a replacement battery for my dell laptop battery urgently.In fact,finally I got it from http://www.my-batteries.net and paid it already.Now I got an email that they do not ship to Italy,and give me a full refund and say Sorry to me ? Where I can purchase my dell 1691p laptop battery is ? I ask this question to many sellers on the net,Got one answer,most of the package was lost in Itlay due to the very bad Italian Post Office:
Why ??? Itlay is on the moon!!!!!
I an Italian citizen for fifteen years,here Italy gave birth to Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, Caravaggio, Raffaello Sanzio, Enrico Fermi.now seems to be it is simply the worst place to live on the Earth, with the worst Post Office all over the world.
What's your opinion about Italian Post Office?
"Italy" as a sort of "risky Country",?
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It is becoming a hard place to live in (Italy) indeed, let's say that everything I ordered from Ebay (no matter where it comes from) since last september and wasn't insured/tracked, just got "lost", I can only tell you that I've sued them.
One of my ideas is that Italians (we're talking about politicians here) where very tired of losing their "good reputation" on some other country's hands, so as the craddle of bureucratism and as the first corruption spreader, they've decided to do some serious changes about it, what We all are seeing is just one of the many ways these people are using.
Anybody who lives in Italy (wheter is italian or not), knows that this country MUST do something quickly (about a lot of things, not just the post), and I'll not say anything else.
****... so its the post office.. thoguht i was unlucky
i sent my ameo to italy for 260 quid.. sold it on ebay
and guess wht, never arrived
left me out of pocket
that solves it