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Which ROM and Radio stack to use?

I'm new to this board. I appreciate the wonderful tools and information available here.
I've reflashed the ROM in my XDA first to the XDA ROM, which I loved, but I need WM2003 now so I'm trying the Siemens WM2003 with the older Radio Stack.
I am on T-Mobile, What ROMS are other T-Mobile people using successfully, with Pocket PC 2002, with Windows Mobile 2003, What Radio Stack are you using?

Yeah i'm confused as well with so many options to choose, i'm in New Zealand not sure what GSM it used.
This Device is so complicated might go back to treo so simple, but not enough feature

Hi ...
1st, there is no connection between which ROM and which RSU to be combined together. Whatever RSU gives you a good signal use it. However, flashing the RSU is the most dangrous action you can do. You can find many stories here about people ended up by replacing the whole device for wrong or crashed RSU update. So be very careful during this process.
The 6.24.01 for t-mobile or A30 for AT&T are the best for PW10B type device (900/1900 MHz), and 3.25 for Qtek or 4.21 for O2 are the best for PW10A devices (900/1800 Mhz) ... the 4.21 has some issues tho.
You better check with someone in your area and operator on which RSU to use. For the ROM, you can cook your own ROM at http://lumpistefan.dyndns.org.
Saputz said:
This Device is so complicated might go back to treo so simple, but not enough feature
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It's not that complicated at all ... and the features become essentials very soon.
Be careful and good luck ...

Status Update
First of all; The newest T-mobile Radio Stack I could find was 6.24.00, I reflashed that and the phone works fine. I tried reflashing the PDA ROM, and boy did I waste a lot of time trying to do it via ActiveSynch. It appears that once I had WM2003 in the ROM, I couldn't reflash it to anything else. It went thru the motions, but never actuall changed anything. I changed modality and went to sending a boot image to my 128MD SD card from my PC, using the correct NK.NBF file for T-Mobile WM2003 4.00.21 ENG rom, and then used boot loader to reflash the PDA rom, that works every time!
Well, anyway, the job is complete and the PDA works just fine!!!!!
Thanks to you all for your help.

Can I flash my audiovox ppc 4100 with anextek sp230 rom?

So i've been thinking.
On this site people talk about flashing the rom on various xda/clones to remove AT&T locks (so I can use a different supplier) I want to use the ppc 4100 with orange uk.
Expansys sell the anextek sp230 which will work on any gsm network.
As the hardware is virtually identical can I get a copy of the sp230 rom and replace the rom on my ppc 4100 with it?
Failing that has anyone used the ppc4100 in the uk (i'll change provider if neccessary) or managed to get one unlocked here?
Cheers, Jamm

I also want to upgrade my ppc 4100's english wm2003 to chinese wm2003....

Other than the fact that this is the XDA-DEVELOPERS site, and not ppc anything else, it is still a good general question. SO, in theory, if the hardware is identical, then you should be able to enter bootloader on one device, copy to sd, insert sd into second device, enter bootloader, and flash device two to whater device one was. But this is theory, and you DO IT AT YOUR OWN RISK! No one is responsable for your mistakes other than you...
If I were you, I would use the bootloader to backup to SD whichever device you were trying to change, and then proceed with a second SD to try and copy/reflash the device. This way, if it gets hosed up, you still have an operating copy of the origional OS, that you should be able to flash back.
Good luck!

Anextek guy said since the Audiovox 4100 is GSM 850 and their SP230 is GSM 900, the ROMs are not interchangeable. Is this true? Can anyone confirm or deny this statement?

unlocking the audiovox 4100 would need to get a dll file called rilgsm.dll and replace the one u ahve already. so if u know u'r stuff u can go download the file from your pda and see if u can find somethign that can make it work.
perhaps compare it from an unlocked audiovox 4100 and see waht the difference is
cheers.

I've tried to flash SP230 with 4100 ROM. The device hangs at the boot screen. So I think that reverse process would also fail.

mamaich
have your tried Buzz's stealth rom program to get the rom so we could at least try it on an 4100?

is there somebody try to flash the ppc4100 to sp230 and where can i find out the sp230 rom ,thanks

u can dump the rom from an anextek pda by using xda tools. i am not sure how useful the dump is u might want to extract the thing to find out if all the files that should be there are actually there.
even when flashing an audiovox sometimes it hangs on boot. try it again it might actually work i wouldnt mind getting a holdof a sp230 rom it prefer nb1 format.
mamaich, did you flash the bootstrap as well? i would try it again if i were u and give it a little time before it does anything, also can i get a copy of your rilgsm.dll file thats inyour windows foler? that could hold the mhz info.
on another note what does bandswitch change that it changes the frequency ?
edit:
lets make the 4100 a part of this site
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=124519#124519

I've flashed audiovox ROM into my SP230 (sold as RoverPC S1) and it stucks at the boot screen. The only way to restore it - is to use small SD-card. I dont have SD-cards smaller than 1Gb, so I've just threw away that SP230.
As far as I remember I kept the original bootloader of my device.

ahhm u still can use the 1gb. i used my 512 sd card. its fine. u gotta boot up with the bootloader by resetting the device and holding the jog dial in.
did it display anything at all ? or jsut a black screen ?
someone with the sp230 please download xda tools and dump the rom thats on the device it doesnt do any harm i donthink so at least i dumped mine a few times and extracted the rom using dumprom the rom seems fine
the only thing u have to keep in mind is when u save the file, name it and add the extention with it too.
try doingan nb1
mamaich u canrestore your pda by flashing someone's sp230 rom on your phone
let us know how things go if u havent compleatly trashed it.

CID Unlock - fine, but still invalid vendor id ?

Hey..
I think in the moment there are many guys, out there, included me, that share the same problem: all probably unlocked their Dash's, Mail's or whatever using anykind of unlocking method (me, imei-check).
I am using a German MDA Mail, i needed to unlock it, in order to use it with my phone carrier apparently.
Now, the version of my phone is somewhat 1.18, and I want to update it to the WM6, like many others too. Both ways; SPL 1.11 and trying the update itself onyl lead to the same outcome : Invalid vendor/model id !
Many often say: yea, look in the CID unlock thread...well i did, very often, but there is no real solution to that problem, since basically, my Dash is unlocked, and presumably also CID unlocked since i got that from imei-check, which i think is a pioneer in that sector.
So, after all, what can we do!? Is it possible to still trying update that phone?
Hope we can find a solution, cuz i dun feel i am the only guy who has that problem.

I may have the same problem. Are you trying to unlock on Vista or XP?

I got it unlocked on XP, it worked fine i got to admit, no problems at all, my phone now seems to be unlocked and it works with another phone carrier, apart from T-Mo, which should be an indication FOR the CID unlock...
I dont think it is important to App unlock the Mail as well, cuz imei-check said it would be included...soo, would it be reasonable to ask imei-check, or does somebody else have an opinion about that?

I just upgraded to WM6. Here's what I did.
Unlocked it from imei-check. Ran SPL Upgrader. It gave me a Vendor ID being incorrect error.
Then I ran the WM6 upgrader from HTC. It upgraded and rebooted.
Now my phone is running WM6 and everything is fine.

Ha? you serious, thats very cool...well i tried it again with the spl upgrader, he went to 100%, aborted then with an invalid model error...then ran the upgrade afterwards, still didnt work... what about the version, did u take the German or the English one!?

Aaaargh, i am about to freak out..why doesnt it work, both SPL and the WM6 Upgrade give Invalid model errors, before i at least got a invalid vendor id, but not even that anymore...HELP...did imei-checks unlock didnt really work or what...

Yeah, I am very serious. I am using WM6 right now. I have a Dopod C720w.
Ok, here's what I did.
Unlocked through IMEI-check's software.
After that, I ran the SPL Upgrader. It went to 100% then gave me an Invalid Vendor ID error. I exited from there and then ran the HTC WM6 upgrade rom program. That started and slowly went to 100%. It said it had finished its job, so I removed my phone from the cable.
Then I proceeded to totally freak out because my phone looked like it was stuck at the Windows Mobile loading screen. I waited and after a long time, the rom initialised and ran through its first boot sequence.
Now its working perfectly and everything feels a bit faster.
If you went through the exact same steps, then I am not sure what your problem might be. Sorry. To tell you the truth, I am a completely noob at this who just did random steps and was lucky enough for it to work
P.S. I used the WWE (English) version, as I can't read German. I downloaded it off a rapidshare link posted in the big thread about HTC's rom release.

Well, i might not have much more skill either, but it is still quite worrying, is there maybe a difference between model and vendor id !? i am not quite sure what to try anymore, i remember yesterday, that i had a wrong vendor id as well, but today i just always got invalid model ids...very weird...well i will continue trying..do u remember what ur MDA mail version was before u updated it..sth like...1.18 !? by the way, which SPL upgrader are u using?

I am not using a MDA Mail. It's a Dopod c720w, same hardware, different branding.
This is the SPL Upgrader I used:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/smartphones/Excalibur/RUU_Excalibur_SPL-1.11_UpgradeOnly.exe
Try with that. It should work.
I think my version before upgrading was 1.15 something.

Nah, i think its the same SPL Upgrader (same size...) but i just dont get the idea why it doesnt work, some experienced upgrader here who can explain us the process?!?! I am not sure whether a reset of all settings would do a thing?! geez feel quite helpless in the moment^^

I had the same problem
but the only thing I did when got those problems was leaving my Vista based laptop and try with an XP based, downloaded the activesync, connected my htc, installed the SPL (downgrade) and then the WM6 WWE ROM, oh, I remember, first I installed the german version by mistake, so I had to repeat the process with the SPL before applying the correct ROM again.
When I was unlocking my HTC, I had some problems on the vista system, and I deactivated the antivirus... Could that be related?
Good Luck!!!

You haven't answered as to whether you're using XP or Vista. I ran into the same issues trying to do the SPL and ROM updates via Vista, when I tried it on my XP system -- both worked without errors.
vivid22 said:
Nah, i think its the same SPL Upgrader (same size...) but i just dont get the idea why it doesnt work, some experienced upgrader here who can explain us the process?!?! I am not sure whether a reset of all settings would do a thing?! geez feel quite helpless in the moment^^
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Yeah, after hearing so much about Vista, I used my XP system to update the rom. Worked fine.

i LOVE imei-check, i wrote them an email a moment ago to ask them for support, they replied me after 10 minutes with a full strategy how to encounter the problem, fabulous support i gotta admit, here's what they said:
Hello,
It sounds like you try to make a CROSS-MODEL-ID update (e.g. WiFi chip missing T-Mobile ROM on a WiFi enabled HTC device).
EVERYTHING IS POSSIBLE. You only have to use SPECIAL INSTRUCTIONS in order to make a CROSS-MODEL-ID update:
*If you REALLY do it EXACT step by step like described you will have no problems*
Tools you need:
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- HexWorkshop from http://www.bpsoft.com/downloads/
- the ROM of your choice
- Winzip or Winrar
- a valid UNL file for YOUR phone
Preparation:
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a) install HexWorkshop and Winzip or Winrar on your pc
b) in explorer on pc, RIGHT click on the ROM of your choice and use: "Extract files to folder ..." from conext menu Now it will unpack all the files
c) in the new folder you will have ONE file like "HRUU_signed.NBH" (*.NBH) RIGHT click on the .NBH file and use: "Hex Edit with Hex Workshop" from context menu
d) You'll see on the 5th row EXCA20000 ==> !!! make it EXCA***** (5 stars) and save the file
e) Now RIGHT click on ROMUpdateUtility.exe and use:
"Hex Edit with Hex Workshop" from conext menu Search for word
"BsaD5SeoA" (without quotes, case sensitive)
You'll find it around address 0x3FC6C
==> replace "BsaD5SeoA" with "IMEICHECK" (without quotes) and save the file
ROM-Update:
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1) take SIM card and SD card OUT of the phone
2) Connect the phone running windows ce to the pc (normal way).
3) Completely Unlock your phone using our unlocker <== REALLY IMPORTANT
4) After phone is unlocked run unlocker (again) BUT when the unlocker ask for UNL file, remove the USB cable from the phone THEN press "Cancel" on the unlocker select file window (unlocker will close on PC). NOTE: The screen on the device will not show something usefull when in this mode. Most probably it is complete WHITE. !!THIS IS NORMAL!! Don't touch phone, let it like it is!
5) After you closed the unlocker, attach usb cable again (phone has still white screen)
6) start (the modified) ROMUpdateUtility.exe
7) when update finished and device started you will get a message:
"Data Crashed, contact service provider" (!NO PANIC!)
==> Simply fix this problem by running the unlocker again and this time select the key file normal way (full unlock process again).
In case you have problems please indicate the step number/letter which is not clear/not working for you.
*If you REALLY do it EXACT step by step like described you will have no problems*
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P.S., would be a good idea to post this as a sticky, since it really explains how to update a original HTC rom on such wifi lacking Excalibur versions like the MDA Mail,
greets and good night

Did you try to email imei-check?
I know that exactly the same problem occurred when the T-Mo WM6 came out.
Imei-check had sent back their customers who were not able to upgrade a procedure how to modify their unlocker with a hex editor to change the model ID.
BTW: Model ID: there are two different models - EXCA100 and EXCA200 - take a look under your battery - german XDA Cosmo for example is EXCA200 (there the SPL seems not to work)
The other thing is the vendor ID. This seems to be solved by pof's Upgrade SPL 1.11
So simply try to write to imei-check and say that your unlock does not work - in the past they were very customer friendly - hope this didn't change meanwhile
EDIT: OK - vivid was a little bit faster - next time I should refresh the thread before I answer...

FYI !!
saw some post where people was being impatient during the upgrading process and completely abort the process ...etc
you are supposed to be at the logo screen for a period of time ... it doesn't meant it's hanged ... be patience !
just a note

Patience is the key...
Hm, OK, I did it... I bought the fracking UNL, took me one hour to figure how to get rid of the protection (security + antivirus) in my laptop that did not allow me to run the unlocking app. Finally, I got it.
First time I flash the ROM it did not work. I tried using first the SPL, and it worked nicely. After that, I could flash the ROM. Be patient, it takes some minutes to reboot, and it looks like is freezed, but not... wait!
Can´t see much difference from WM5, but I noticed a best performance in wifi connection. Now I´m fracking installing all the goodies I had before... bluetooth keyboard is not working... I will work it out a little bit.
Just in case, if someone wants the UNL for research... PM me.

I am glad it all worked out for you. Didn't know that the MDA Mail came without Wifi.
Wow, I must say, I am glad I used Imei-Check's service as well. That was an extremely helpful reply they sent you. Not seen many companies who do that.

That's exactly what i thought
Maybe we should write them a thankyou email for all their great help in name of the whole xda-developers community what u think
Anyhow, can somebody explain me real quick what should be definitely be installed to WM6?
@PhoenixAG: yeaa stupid T-Mobile GER...they didnt take away the wifi chip on the S710 or the newer ones, have no idea why they did it to the Excalibur then..

It would be a good idea to stick this solution.
I think many users in this forum have exactly the same problem in doing a cross model ID update. You can see Excalibur devices from many countries and carriers here.
I have a T-Mobile MDA Mail too which lacks the Wi-Fi and had to do the same steps after cid-unlocking it through imeicheck.
You have to do it really step by step. I had problems in doing it out of my memory for the new HTC ROM and wondered why it failed. But going through it step by step really works EVERY time I did it and thats now the third time.
First was installing T-Mobile Dash WM6 ROM, second the Russian HTC ROM and now finally the German HTC WM6 ROM.

Upgraded to the "wrong" WM6 version

I have an unlocked i-mate JASJAM phone (Hermes 100 model) that I decided to use instead of my regular T-Mobile phone (the Dash, another HTC phone).
It worked fine until we decided that it was time to upgrade to Windows Mobile 6.0 (from 5.0)… did a quick search, found a downloadable Windows Mobile 6.0 image and went ahead and did it.. without any thought. As a result, we downloaded the Australian telecom Telstra’s WM6.0 image on my device.
The Telstra WM6 image lets me:
1. Turn ON the phone without problems.
2. Sync Outlook using Active Sync via a USB connection
3. Access the internet when using a WiFi connection.
BUT does not recognize the T-Mobile SIM card (the phone still shows as being unlocked).
I have tried flashing a "neutral" image using instructions from this site but it either says that the phone is not connected (it is via the USB) or tells me that it is not the right utility.
What can I do to get a new WM6 flashed on my Hermes 100 and how? T-Mobile will not help me as the Hermes is not their phone.
Thank you for your help!
Nitin

Why dont you try a different ROM. Where are you located at?

dropin said:
I have an unlocked i-mate JASJAM phone (Hermes 100 model) that I decided to use instead of my regular T-Mobile phone (the Dash, another HTC phone).
It worked fine until we decided that it was time to upgrade to Windows Mobile 6.0 (from 5.0)… did a quick search, found a downloadable Windows Mobile 6.0 image and went ahead and did it.. without any thought. As a result, we downloaded the Australian telecom Telstra’s WM6.0 image on my device.
The Telstra WM6 image lets me:
1. Turn ON the phone without problems.
2. Sync Outlook using Active Sync via a USB connection
3. Access the internet when using a WiFi connection.
BUT does not recognize the T-Mobile SIM card (the phone still shows as being unlocked).
I have tried flashing a "neutral" image using instructions from this site but it either says that the phone is not connected (it is via the USB) or tells me that it is not the right utility.
What can I do to get a new WM6 flashed on my Hermes 100 and how? T-Mobile will not help me as the Hermes is not their phone.
Thank you for your help!
Nitin
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Flash with any WWE ROM like Schap's WM6.0 v4.30, but be sure to upgrade your SPL to 2.10 Olipro and better to upgrade your radio version also.

before upgrading the radio make sure you find out which is "best" in your area.... Upgrading the radio is one of the riskiest thing you can do as it is MAJOR trouble if things go wrong generaly resulting in a brick(pda still works but no phone function)... also there has been some problems associated with radios suddenly not working. if your radio seems to be working fine then leave it alone as the wrong radio can result in BAD reception and fast battery drain. Make sure you do a search b4 upgrading this so you go in with eyes wide open. Cheers

dropin said:
.......found a downloadable Windows Mobile 6.0 image and went ahead and did it.. without any thought.......
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I think you may have learnt a lesson here sir, these devices NEED you to think when you are upgrading them or you will end up one of the many people trying to unbrick their phone.
READ READ READ next time

Thank you all for your replies. Yes, I do feel absolutely stupid!
I am in the Seattle area of the US. Is it important?

have you tried putting the device in bootmode/-screen before connecting to your PC (through USB)?
Or maybe even flash from SD?

Yes, I have followed the process outlined in this forum many times but I either get the message that the device is not connected (as soon as it starts to flash, it is kicked out).
From what I have been able to gather, it is the radio that is blocking the SIM card and any flashing (unless it is from the Australian Telco Telstra whose image I managed to download... why they would allow that is another question!).
Thoughts?
Nitin

HTC s621

ok im a bit lost but here is my situatoin and question...
Sit: I bought a Unicel HTC S621 phone works fine, but i want to upgrade the Mobile version from 5.1
Question: Is there a way to upgrade this with a T-Mobile 6.0 or higher version as i am a T-Mobile Customer?
Ponder: Is this phone the same as T-Mobile Dash? just curious because it appears to be.

Hi my friend. I have an htc s621 from mexico telcel, there is a lot of t-mobile roms in the roms section you should take a look there. They are the same phone as s621 is american and s620 is european.
Greetings

thanks alot just wanted to be sure they would work

taalon927 said:
thanks alot just wanted to be sure they would work
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Read carefully the sticky, just click under my HTC S621 signature and you will find a lot of answers.
Welcome to the forums

TY for the help i did read something, about unlocking CID... is there a way to tell if its unlocked?
i do know the SIM is unlocked as i have put my T mobile card into it and made calls and text with it in. So even tho its unicel phone i did get it does work with my t m sim.... i want to do this right, but am unsure if the CID is unlocked.

normally they come CID locked.
if you want to flash directly, turn off the phone, quit sd card and sim card and turn on the phone while pressing camera button, this will put your device into flash mode. Download a T-Mobile Rom and connect via usb, and run ROM update, if you get a error code then your device si protected or the model predefined is not the same as intended the update utility. You can "force" the ROM update using the tools that gmaniac2008 told you.
I like very much original rom, altough some cooked roms you can found in the rom section are very nice and have the latest windows mobile releases, lots of prebuilts apps and customizations.
in Official ROMS
you should install maybe this 1.22.531.6 (T-Mobile USA, WM6) because contains some configurations like mms, gprs, etc. from your carrier (to install this try the past method if dont works then you have to read more to force install)
A good choice if you want to try a custom rom, and they have autoinstaller (just need to quit sd and sim and turn on the phone, connect to usb, and run the utility. The utility is autoinstall.
is 080408 - Remade By Rickywatt windows mobile 6.1
greets

Thanks for the help and guidance to the right ROM but one big problem, there is no romupdateutility.exe file in the .rar file i downloaded so how the heck do i get the update utility?
oh btw if it matters im running windows 7 x64

Just download the files, they contain te rom update utility. Just have to run.
Better if you make the update on Windows XP x32.
Take a further read on FAQs thread. Official updates (rom updates utilities) looks like RUU_EXCALIBUR_bla bla bla.exe
RUU_HTC_S620_bla bla bla.exe or
RUU_HTC_s621 etc etc etc
Greets.