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Hmm... is zune marketplace down?

First time I've had issues with it. It will let me get to the point where I select try or buy but then when I go to verify it just continuously loads. I tried afterwards on the PC and it just says none of the above items are available for purchase. This was initially found on the moron test but I am having the same issue occur with all apps.

I had that happen about a week ago on the weekend. Come Monday, the market started working again.

MartyLK said:
I had that happen about a week ago on the weekend. Come Monday, the market started working again.
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quite lame... I can't even update my apps...

z33dev33l said:
quite lame... I can't even update my apps...
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Neither could I. And some of the apps were paid apps that needed updating. It was quite annoying. But I was glad to see it working again come that Monday, without the need to do a hard reset.

yup, having that issue here too, i think it's tied to either your account, or your location... not quite sure why tho...

I have had issue with market place a couple of times. Mostly the update won't succeed and I'll need to delete the app then install it again.

Having the same problem here to. Can't update or download apps (sweden).

I'm having the same problem on the phone and trying to install from the Zune PC marketplace.

Me too

yes, same in Dalian China from 19th Mar.
I tried to install apps from Zune on my PC but got error "None of the selected items is available for purchase". Anyway it worked well before. And then I tried to install using marketplace on my Focus but got another error "Can't get this info right now. Check back in a little while."
Some Chinese uses got same error, but some can still download/install apps from marketplace. So it's very strange issue. Is it related to my live id?
Anyone can help on this? I only found US ZUNE support number but I cannot dial.

xuegaoche said:
yes, same in Dalian China from 19th Mar.
I tried to install apps from Zune on my PC but got error "None of the selected items is available for purchase". Anyway it worked well before. And then I tried to install using marketplace on my Focus but got another error "Can't get this info right now. Check back in a little while."
Some Chinese uses got same error, but some can still download/install apps from marketplace. So it's very strange issue. Is it related to my live id?
Anyone can help on this? I only found US ZUNE support number but I cannot dial.
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Just wait a day. Monday will bring it back to normal. It effects users at different times. MS might be doing some kind of tuning to the market to help refine it. At least that's what I rationalize it to be.

It's working this morning, I was able to download a few free apps and buy some songs without any issues.

I still have the Problem, and also never got that pre-nodo update... Truly sucks...
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A thread for those who can't force Mango

Many of us have problems forcing mango onto our devices. Figured I'd start a thread rather than have everyone jumping threads. Let me know if you guys have any luck!

Is it that 3 second step cause I had to try it like 30 times before I got it to work

I follow the instructions but no matter what I do I either get the "Your phone is up to date" message or the "Can't check for updates right now. Please try again later"

Worst part is my dad just got home and I tried to do the trick with his and I got it on the first try.......

Ok, I created an account just for this. Finally got mine to work and this is what the problem is. In my house I have my PC, my fiances laptop who is also playing l4d2 on our 360, connected to our net. So I have a bit of latency between me and the M$ servers.
1.What I did was went to the update tab and let it tell me there were none, then switched tabs.
2.I opened notepad, clicked the update tab in zune and counted; once it told me my phone was up to date I typed the number into notepad.
3.Then I switched tabs, waited a second or two, and repeated step 2 about 4 more times. I averaged about 15 seconds.
4. Knowing it took about 15 secs to tell me i was up to date I waited longer than just 1-2 secs before disconnecting, and instead waited about 12-13 secs. After about 5 times I got the update message, and am updating now.
Instead of manually disconnecting my Ethernet cable EVERY SINGLE TIME P) I just opened my network connections, and disabled my Connection; it made it a bit faster and more accurate.
Hope this helps, and please spread the word!
Edit: I'm on a Samsung Focus v.1.3 with AT&T (I hear the 1.4 won't be able to be updated until next month )
Edit 2: So, as mentioned before this was a 3 part update, after the initial update it still told me there were no updates, so I had to go through the same process. I got the second update, and am now (I believe) installing Mango itself

Tried disconnecting by disabling network, 7-8 secs after clicking update, works like charm, thanks.

No matter what i try i just cant force the mango update..
please help..ive tried everything...i either get unable to check for updates or up to date
Unlocked Htc Hd7 originally on O2 uk but now using and orange uk sim..
it worked for me previously on NODO

try this
FOR THOSE THAT IT WONT WORK FOR READ THIS!
click check for update like normal but have your phone in hand and ready to set to airplane mode at the time where you would normally dc your computers internet.
I did not have to dc my computers internet, just the phones and it worked perfectly for me.
In my case I had to switch to airplane mode at ~34 seconds.
It helps if you time it the first time and see how long it takes to tell you your phone is up to date and then subtract about a second. GL hope this helps
from this thread
http://wmpoweruser.com/simple-trick-to-force-the-mango-update/#

Eccid said:
Ok, I created an account just for this. Finally got mine to work and this is what the problem is. In my house I have my PC, my fiances laptop who is also playing l4d2 on our 360, connected to our net. So I have a bit of latency between me and the M$ servers.
1.What I did was went to the update tab and let it tell me there were none, then switched tabs.
2.I opened notepad, clicked the update tab in zune and counted; once it told me my phone was up to date I typed the number into notepad.
3.Then I switched tabs, waited a second or two, and repeated step 2 about 4 more times. I averaged about 15 seconds.
4. Knowing it took about 15 secs to tell me i was up to date I waited longer than just 1-2 secs before disconnecting, and instead waited about 12-13 secs. After about 5 times I got the update message, and am updating now.
Instead of manually disconnecting my Ethernet cable EVERY SINGLE TIME P) I just opened my network connections, and disabled my Connection; it made it a bit faster and more accurate.
Hope this helps, and please spread the word!
Edit: I'm on a Samsung Focus v.1.3 with AT&T (I hear the 1.4 won't be able to be updated until next month )
Edit 2: So, as mentioned before this was a 3 part update, after the initial update it still told me there were no updates, so I had to go through the same process. I got the second update, and am now (I believe) installing Mango itself
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cxkx said:
try this
FOR THOSE THAT IT WONT WORK FOR READ THIS!
click check for update like normal but have your phone in hand and ready to set to airplane mode at the time where you would normally dc your computers internet.
I did not have to dc my computers internet, just the phones and it worked perfectly for me.
In my case I had to switch to airplane mode at ~34 seconds.
It helps if you time it the first time and see how long it takes to tell you your phone is up to date and then subtract about a second. GL hope this helps
from this thread
http://wmpoweruser.com/simple-trick-to-force-the-mango-update/#
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I timed and the time for me to get a response of up to date is 3 seconds. I tried disconnecting my usb wireless adapter and then ON airplane mode at 2 seconds, tried about 8 to 10 times each, didn't work. I'm using a HD7 with 7720 RTM.

optimus 7 with 7720 rtm, disconnect trick not working, i just hope that in a week or so, this update will be available for all, and i think this whole trying 100times to take out ethernet cable is not worth it.
I heard the difference between official and rtm is barely noticable, so lets just wait : )

zard said:
I timed and the time for me to get a response of up to date is 3 seconds. I tried disconnecting my usb wireless adapter and then ON airplane mode at 2 seconds, tried about 8 to 10 times each, didn't work. I'm using a HD7 with 7720 RTM.
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I had both search for update options off, but I don't think it affected anything, and I'm not sure switching it to airplane mode would make much of a difference either. I think it's more about getting your net off at the EXACT moment. The second time I had to do it, I ended up having to try roughly 30 times, with a break in the middle to play some TF2 and blow off some steam , and my time kept fluctuating depending on who was doing what online. So it will be time consuming and an absolute pain, but that's only because we're doing something the Zune software wasn't intended for.

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3 seconds disconnect the LAN cable worked for me like a charm.

Force worked well for me. You really have to disable wireless within 1 split second.

Now d question is, if this forced update works for any of us, why don't Microsoft just push it to us. Is there a reason y it isn't pushed to us?
Sent from my LG-E900

vash_h said:
Now d question is, if this forced update works for any of us, why don't Microsoft just push it to us. Is there a reason y it isn't pushed to us?
Sent from my LG-E900
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The reason they're doing a slow rollout, is so they can detect any problems and fix them before too many people have it. Say a feature that worked fine in beta, didn't work right when installed through zune, they would know when only 10% of it's users had it, instead of all of them. It's a great way of putting such a big update out there, but I'm impatient

cxkx said:
try this
FOR THOSE THAT IT WONT WORK FOR READ THIS!
click check for update like normal but have your phone in hand and ready to set to airplane mode at the time where you would normally dc your computers internet.
I did not have to dc my computers internet, just the phones and it worked perfectly for me.
In my case I had to switch to airplane mode at ~34 seconds.
It helps if you time it the first time and see how long it takes to tell you your phone is up to date and then subtract about a second. GL hope this helps
from this thread
http://wmpoweruser.com/simple-trick-to-force-the-mango-update/#
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So, after reading the posts in this thread I timed how long it took to show no upgrade, subtracted one, and then followed the instructions in this post, used the airplane switch -->on after that amount of time (for me it was 5sec) and immediately I got the message that an update was available (backing up as I type this). I realize that not all of my wishes for a perfect upgrade will be answered, it will be nice to have the latest OS from MS on my device (HTC ARRIVE)

albertleao said:
Many of us have problems forcing mango onto our devices. Figured I'd start a thread rather than have everyone jumping threads. Let me know if you guys have any luck!
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我mango更新成功了`呢````不知道你呢`````呵呵

help needed please..ive again tried eveything but i still cant force the update..
in u.k......

Well, I get to the 7392 update part, but when finishing the update it always gives me the 80080140 error message: "Can't update your phone at this time. Please try again Later". Tried everything from the WP Support Tool to a factory reset and still no Mango. I have the Focus v1.3 so i don't have the v1.4 waiting period issue.

Seems like many of us on Mango RTM are not able to get the final OEM firmware update.
In the case of my trophy, my firmware & radio versions were obsolete & it leads to instability in the Bluetooth stack + occasionally touchscreen issue. Zune also occasionally hang when changing song.
HTC Connected Media doesn't work as well. It's not a showstopper but why can't MS just push those files to us now? It's actually pretty small. Are we the 2% that MS say aren't eligible?

MS acknowledges Leap day bug - "Connection Error"

first, sorry if this was already posted, please feel free to delete this post.
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...26-958a-84816e8a19e4?page=21&tm=1330575160400
from MS Answers forum
Hello All,
We're currently having success in resolving this issue by altering the date on a PC to March 1st, 2012.
Once the date has been changed, close the Zune Software and disconnect the Phone, then go ahead and reconnect the Phone and the Zune Software should start automatically. If not, go ahead and start the Zune Software as normal.
Ideally, the Phone should be detected and you may have to go through the process of naming the Phone and checking for updates again.
Right now, this is just a workaround, however.
Kind Regards,
Matthew N.
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I spent a few hours desperately trying to connect my wife's phone to zune, no go with all MS knowledge base suggestions.
Win7 64bit, two user accounts. My phone connected to Zune fine, my wife's did not with Zune always throwing error
"Connection Error" "Can't connect to your phone. Disconnect it, restart it, then try connecting again."
I tried on a different PC with freshly installed Zune, same thing.
I decided I have to hard reset the phone at some point. I posted my problem on MS forum (top link) and got a boat load of emails today with people reporting identical problem.
turns out it's a leap day bug. LOL
I thought that was something reserved for Apple

Wasn't there a leap day bug that rendered some zunes bricks the last time around?

exiva said:
Wasn't there a leap day bug that rendered some zunes bricks the last time around?
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I own a Zune HD, not sure I heard about this. Certainly didn't experience it.
can you imagine all the folks who went out to buy a windows phone 7 today and find out they cannot connect to Zune? How frustrating....

Too bad I didn't see this until March 1st.

Lol.. I am one of the joker that got the titan on the 29th that I was so eagerly waiting to arrive... Spent many hours trying to resolve the problem.. Till I gave up and it worked miraculously the next morning!!

MarketPlace issue

Hi,
Its weird that there's no thread and nobody mentioned the market place issue on wp7 for few days ago i wasn't able to download anything now Microsoft have this app. (Refresh marketplace) to solve this issue but it didn't i have followed the step by step guide and it didn't help. now i have done a hard reset to my phone of curse i lost everything now i have installed the refresh marketplace app. again and still nothing .....any ideas guys on this issue?
thanks

I am also facing this trouble for more then a week.......
Searched a lot for solution but in vain......
If anyone had any solution please suggest us too.............

hmm, I had issues a while back but they are not related, I did however get that refresh marketplace app pop up, on my first attempt at installing it my original problem prevented it installing, that's kind of irrelevant though, after I fixed my issue the refresh app appeared once again BUT has since vanished without me installing it.
I wonder if this is an app that 7.8 needs and isn't quite ready for 7.5 or something like that.

I now have the same issue after reactivating my HTC Mozart after some time of not using it. I installed the "Refresh Marketplace" app but marketplace still doesn't work. Right now I'm trying the last hint before hard resetting: Restart, activate data connection and power plug the device for at least 24 hours while keeping the marketplace app open.

hmmm Strange. can it have something with the Windows Live ID problems that was before. some of the Windows Live IDs have also had some errors a while ago. Microsoft has a bunch of stuff to do now with WP 8 and WP 7.8 preparing. i think this is only a little bug which will go away in few days or weeks. but weeks is sometimes to long, i now.

toolsche said:
I now have the same issue after reactivating my HTC Mozart after some time of not using it. I installed the "Refresh Marketplace" app but marketplace still doesn't work. Right now I'm trying the last hint before hard resetting: Restart, activate data connection and power plug the device for at least 24 hours while keeping the marketplace app open.
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Hi toolsche, did it solved your problem after resetting???

Was playing around with OSBuilder and the 8858 dumps and kept having what sounds like the same issue with every rom I created. Being a noob I figured I was including an unnecessary package or missing a package somewhere. Tried everything including the refresh marketplace app and changing live i.d. What was strange was the "icons" for the apps looked newer or at least different. Wish now I had taken a screenshot.

On my Omnia 7, it was solved with a hard reset.

Hardreseting is actually heart breaking......
Wish if some senior/serious member can suggest workaround....
I know many user are facing same problem....

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Hardreseting is actually heart breaking......
Wish if some senior/serious member can suggest workaround....
I know many user are facing same problem....
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Just an update
My marketplace today started working on its on, without me hard resting or anything......
Simply just like that.....

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2026955
Unfortunately I had to hard reset my Omnia W to get Marketplace working again.

Surface RT - Windows RT 8.1 can't find windows updates and can't install Store Apps

Hi all, I recently got a Surface RT and reinstalled Windows RT on it as brend new device.
Windows starts from RT 8.1 and after some updates (almost 70) it updates the Surface firmware and switch to Windows 8.1 RT update (1). From that a few more updates and than my Surface can't find any windows updates and can't install Store Apps.
The Windows Update keeps being stuck on "serching for updates" forever and the Store apps won't install giving me an error about my slow internet connection.
I know for sure that the last Update is the update 3 for Win RT which I won't ever be able to install. I'm pretty sure that some update screwed my Windows Update center. I've re-installed a fresh new Win few times and alwyas got stuck at this point.
Any help?

Hi,
I have a very similar problem at the moment. I refreshed my surface 2 last week as the storage had filled up and couldn't be cleared by any other normal means. After reset, the first batch of updates would install but afterwards would get stuck on the "searching for updates". I have reset several times with the same problem occurring each time. Finally I reset using a usb recovery following the guide given on windows central forums (wont let me post link)
This time after installation, even on the first check for updates, it gets stuck. Been running now for over 24 hours and still nothing.
Hopefully someone on here will know the answer. I will follow this thread with interest.
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Typical, no sooner had I written the post above then the search for updates finally finished after 25 hours. 262 updates found and ready for installation. Turns out that nothing other than (extreme) patience is required for the problem to sort itself out. It might be worth adjusting your power settings so that your surface does not go to sleep and hence interrupt the search. Good luck and hope it works out for you.

Hi and thanks for answering, I don't feel alone anymore. Here's my story:
The first time I resetted Windows was just after purchasing my Surface, brand new Win on and I used my surface for almost a week, researched for updates and installed it (firmware update and something like 76 first and 35 later) till the Windows RT 8.1 update (1).
I realized something was wrong as soon as Windows Store started giving me the same network error for each app I was trying to install. Looking for windows update was stuck on "Checking for update" for more than one hour (standby time on AC plugged in setted to never). Latest update available for the Surface RT is the Windows RT 8.1 Update 3.
Restored Windows, kept my apps but removed all the updates. Windows Store worked again, same for Updates. Installed two cycles (just like before) and again same situation... Windows Store started giving me the same network error for each app I was trying to install, looking for windows update was stuck on "Checking for update" for more than one hour (standby time on AC setted to never).
I tried every fix coming up on the web: wsreset, windows troubleshooting app for windows update and windows app and even deleting the SoftwareDistribution folder.
At this point I chatted with an MS employ through Surface assistance web page. She suggested me to reinstall a fresh windows copy from Microsoft web site using a USB drive and so I did...
Yesterday night it all came back, second cycle of updates, Windows Store started giving me the same network error for each app I was trying to install, looking for windows update was stuck on "Checking for update" for more than one hour (standby time on AC setted to never). I again tried all the fixes, nothing worked and so I restored Windows keeping my apps.
I'm now typing from my Surface, just restored but no updates installed yet. I'm really getting upset to MS for all this ****. Hope you get more luck.
Next week I won't need my Surface to much so I may try looking for updates for more than 24 hours and see if I can get out of this updates cycle.
Looking forward for better news and know if thing are working for you.
P.S. Text me the link you were talking about.

Updates: I've installed the KB2029xxx update (Update 1) and after that, as alwyas, Windows won't find any other update. I've let it check for more than 24 hours but still on "checking for updates".
Don't know what else to do.

Hi, I think it's about their servers aswell. I've tried everything and more to get out of this situation but nothing worked.
Last thing I did yesterday was:
1. Flush DNS "ipconfig /flushdns"
2. Run Windows Update troubleshooting
3. Checking for updates
And again is was stuck for hours till I gave up and shut it down.
The main difference is that flushing in DNS clear the Windows Update cache so it now looks like no updates are installed and updates history is blank.
Nothing changed tho. I guess MS removed (or blocked?) updates after Update 1.
Somewhere, somehow, I've red it's possible to "cook" your own ISO of Windows RT including major updates.
I'll find more out.

Keep us updated, the longest time for me was about 27 hours.
Inviato dal mio Nexus 4 utilizzando Tapatalk

mattschwantes said:
I checked again last night (48 hours) and again this morning. The Windows update bar was still scrolling away doing nothing. However, when I right clicked to shutdown, I now had option to 'Upsate and restart'. Choosing this it began installing 183 updates.
This was all done with Surface2 plugged in, sleep set to never, running via Wifi to 1GBps fiber broadband. I'm just happy it actually did something. Data must be drip-feeeding in using BITS at inperceptibly slow rate. So good news, it can work but just barely.
Wish you luck with yours. Hopefully @never_released can provide us an alternative OS solution in near future.
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Great news. What would you suggest now? I can't let my Surface RT plugged for 2 days 'cause I need it, however I was thinking about pluging it in and let it check for updates during the night time, should be about 10 hours per day, and repeat this process till I find the magic "Update and Restart" button takes over the classic restart.
I've alwyas been checking using the metro Windows Update and not the Desktop's one.

Same issue here on my surface 2. I bought it off a buddy and reinstalled windows from an image found on the MS website. after installing the first batch of updates it just keeps searching. I found that while its searching I cannot download apps from the store it keeps spitting back the network is not fast enough despite being able to watch NF on multiple devices at once. its starting to bug me a little bit cuz i do want the new start menu.

Its not confirmed yet, but it might be worth to mention.
I've contacted Microsoft for this problem, and after hours, maybe days of troubleshooting they finally came to the conclusion that its pretty annoying.
However I did a request for making new system images (for the RT devices) since they are not supported by updates anymore.
The request has been sent and awaiting response. Let's all hope that my request will be get through and we will get new recovery images which are up-to-date anywhere soon.

Stjinchan said:
Its not confirmed yet, but it might be worth to mention.
I've contacted Microsoft for this problem, and after hours, maybe days of troubleshooting they finally came to the conclusion that its pretty annoying.
However I did a request for making new system images (for the RT devices) since they are not supported by updates anymore.
The request has been sent and awaiting response. Let's all hope that my request will be get through and we will get new recovery images which are up-to-date anywhere soon.
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Please keep us updated!
Looks like that the ony way to go trought this at the moment is to just let your Surface check for updates, AC pluged, never set to sleep, for something about 30-40 hours till, still checking for updates, opening the shutdown menu shows the "Update and Restart" option.

I just had an idea. Maybe it could work maybe not but the people who where able to receive the updates on surface rt/2 upload the contents of their SoftwareDistribution (including Software distribution.Old if present) folder located in the windows folder so us that can't get them can just install them manually. Just an idea tho.

Quick update after factory reseting my surface 2 and attempting to do the first batch of updates I found that a bunch of my important updates fail to install. Causing my tablet to loose ability to install apps and find updates no matter what fix I try. Going try installing updates manually over the next few days and see if that helps.

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Mine also had many failed updates in the first batch of 64. Keep doing update/restarting. Once you get through that initial batch, they seem to more/less succeed after that.
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I've gotten through about 3 sets of updates further then I've gotten before. This time I didn't use my Microsoft account and just made a local account and I only installed the one that were auto ticked I figure I've don't about 120 updates now. It's checking for updates atm but hopefully by morning it'll be done.

Hi. Windows RT 8.1 update 3 is here. But the update problem remains.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=49143

gipigia said:
Hi. Windows RT 8.1 update 3 is here. But the update problem remains.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=49143
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Please tell me they just posted this and I didn't just miss it. This is the one update I wanted I do the really care for the security patches cuz I do the really think rt can get viruses.

I don't know. It was here.
https://support.microsoft.com/it-it/kb/3033055

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I don't know. It was here.
https://support.microsoft.com/it-it/kb/3033055
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oh well thanks for that. I just hope that maybe they will make a recovery image with all the updates pre-applied. or even unlock it for us but that's just being hopeful.

now I keep getting "connection too slow" error from the app store and when I run the troubleshooter I keep getting "service registration missing or corrupt - not fixed" I've contacted support via helpdesk but they are almost useless and i cant go to the surface support because it wants me to pay because my warranty is up.
Edit- just after typing this they put me in contact with someone from the surface department. hopefully they can help fix these issues.

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The Windows Update Troubleshooter always says Service Registration Missing or Corrupt. Even on a freshly recovered Surface RT/2.
It claims to fix the problem. Run it again, it detects no issue. But this only lasts until you restart. After restart, it behaves same as before. I think the Troubleshooter is actually just incorrect.
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Mine won't even fix it

these issues are really starting to bug me I've reset my surface 2 about 10 times within the last 3 days. even if they stopped supporting the device we should be able to update and use it on the latest updates with no problem. talking to support is useless they always tell you to do the same steps over and over again.