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A question:how can you get the great things for Hermes?

I just want to know that how can the "madmen" get the HTC drivers?apps and make them suitable for hermes to use,it seams that the HTC did'nt release them.if you get them from other roms,then how do they get?Thanks.

Being that this is your first post, I'm going to tell you before someone else who isn't so nice will. You have to read the threads, and the wiki. Also, when you do a search, use google.
The sites search feature doesn't work to well, because of all the redundant posts. Also, check out the Hermes upgrading forum, they have a lot of great information there. Good Luck.

What kind of apps are you looking for?
To search this forum, you should use the following format:
launch the google search page
type:
hermes xda (name or type of application) i.e for hermes xda pimbackup:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=hermes+xda+pimbackup
this should find the post you can use to get information on a name or type of application that you might like.
Birdwords said:
I just want to know that how can the "madmen" get the HTC drivers?apps and make them suitable for hermes to use,it seams that the HTC did'nt release them.if you get them from other roms,then how do they get?Thanks.
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Or use this link to search the forums.
Same thing really... add it to ur favourites

im sorry that there must be some misunderstandings.i want to know how can you get the drives?apps which did not release,but not i want these things. anyway,thanks.

Ssshhh.....it's a secret
Birdwords said:
im sorry that there must be some misunderstandings.i want to know how can you get the drives?apps which did not release,but not i want these things. anyway,thanks.
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Think I follow what you're asking......
The chefs have their own sources that they get copies of the ROM's from - obviously these ROMs are not generally released yet. "We" (i.e. the normal forum members) don't know - or care about - their sources, we just like the end result.
Hope this answers your question
Mark.

yay i love this place
+1

Mark Crouch said:
Think I follow what you're asking......
The chefs have their own sources that they get copies of the ROM's from - obviously these ROMs are not generally released yet. "We" (i.e. the normal forum members) don't know - or care about - their sources, we just like the end result.
Hope this answers your question
Mark.
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Thanks for your answer! though we just want the final result,i want to know where do the chefs' roms come from. it is still puzzled me since jasjaming said he would release black3.5 with the latest HTC drivers.also other members here "delivered" the x-button.

^^^ Well, have you asked Jasjamming where he gets it?
I doubt he will tell you but you might as well ask the source.

hehehhheeh
Do you know this is kind of a trick question ! Ask Mr Bill from Micr.... if you can know how the code is done ...
But if you know how just start spread it !!!
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Android Rhodium wiki

I took the liberty to start a wiki for Android on the Rhodium. I dont know everything and this is my first attempt at something like this so please edit anything I screwed up

hey,
i have written a very basic greek guide here:
http://blog.megahz.org/2010/02/android-windows-mobile-pda-dual-boot.html

sd73ta said:
I took the liberty to start a wiki for Android on the Rhodium. I dont know everything and this is my first attempt at something like this so please edit anything I screwed up
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Cool! Hey I had a spare few minutes at work so I updated and re-organized some things. Go through and check my re-wordings etc to make sure I'm not spreading lies!
I'm not technically geeky enough to help out with development so I figured this is the least I can do. If we keep up with this, it can be very useful. I know the devs are so busy tinkering with things that typing up documentation can be a chore.

Thanks for updating the wiki. I to am not geeky enough

Good idea to start one on XDA. If you need more stuff like FAQs and links for the XDA wiki page, there's the Android on HTC wiki here which has some of that kind of stuff. If you'd like, I'll try to help keep the XDA one maintained with current info whenever I update the one on Android on HTC

The more help the better. I did put a link to your site too

I agree, I know that other wiki was out there...but I think it's good to have it here at XDA.
The more hands on this, the more up to date it will be.

I wanted to chip in, but I don't want to speak for every TP2 owner out there, so I had this morsel of info:
My TP2 (a Tilt2, actually) does NOT need to be plugged in prior to booting Haret to gain charging capability. XDAndroid is able to use the charger no matter what. There's just no orange light.
I was able to verify that in Spare Parts. Not sure if it's JUST the Tilt2, or if it's every TP2 out there.

loving the wiki...thanks and keep up the great work

I added The Front Buttons Keymap layout to the Wiki juts in case people Would like to know

I just want to say thanks to everyone for helping with this. I think this has turned out really well its simple, straight forward and still very informative. Keep up the good work.
also Ive been adding peoples names as they contribute. If Ive added you and you wish to be removed please let me know.

Ive added the CDMA installation instructions to the wiki. If any one sees that i've screwed them up let me know and I'll correct it or feel free to correct it yourself. I do not have a cdma version of the TP2 so this is based on my quick research on the matter

ROM List

Could we PLEASEEEEEE get a sticky or something with a current list of ROMs available for each device? And whenever someone releases another ROM then they can have it added to the list or something. If it was in the form of a thread then there will be double mentions and that will defy the point. Is there a way that we could have like a non-editable (other than by mods) list of ROMs?
I browse so many different forums and each day there are more and more ROMs coming out but then everything just seems to be so messy when you have to look through so many pages. Different websites have their own incomplete lists, and it's just very confusing, especially if you go away for a week or so and haven't been keeping up and constantly updating yourself... because things change so fast here that after 7 days someone's usually made 10 new discoveries and then there's been 3 new ROMs!
Regards

check out the sticky wiki pages. in there is a link to wiki with all the current roms out.

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=GSM Hero ROMs

fuz1987 said:
for each device?
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This is a forum for one device, the Hero, if you want a list of the latest ROM's look down the thread list, most of the cooks date stamp all their releases (or announcements). I'd think looking for [14-03-2010] in the list is a good place to start

Oh okay thank you... I didn't know about the Wiki that's pretty much exactly what I was after.. thanks again!

[Q] need helps

i want to know how do i do to build a kernel for my htc desire, and ov/uc please thx

Try the Q&A section, where this should've been posted. Maybe you shouldn't be cooking kernels when you can't even manage to read forumpolicies

lol everyone learns and i want to learn how to make it just it

Alkan2 said:
lol everyone learns and i want to learn how to make it just it
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There is a q&a section on this forum, try there. This thread will probably soon be locked down once mods found out about it and most importantly, you won't get any help here.

hello noob!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA&

Someone needs to take that ****e video off YouTube as it's harsh. How are we meant to build a community if people just shoot n00bs down before they know anything??

EddyOS said:
Someone needs to take that ****e video off YouTube as it's harsh. How are we meant to build a community if people just shoot n00bs down before they know anything??
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Don't wanna b adding too much to this thread but agree 1000 times with this comment...if it wasn't for noob threads I'd still be stuck with stock rubbish
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

This thread -> LOL

bailz2506 said:
Don't wanna b adding too much to this thread but agree 1000 times with this comment...if it wasn't for noob threads I'd still be stuck with stock rubbish
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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I agree noob threads are great, they helped me immensely.. but the android development thread is there for a specific reason and so is the q&a thread
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

I've been noticing the increase of stupid questions for a while but more importantly, I am getting fed up with the aggressive nature of some of the users. So people post in the wrong section, move post with warning, end of.
Also if the ROMS were cross posted to FAQ by default then more people would end up there instead of using the search to find the ROM title and ending up at the DEV thread.
xda is getting a bad rep for their mods and i'm not surprised. . . .

Alkan2 said:
i want to know how do i do to build a kernel for my htc desire, and ov/uc please thx
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Returning to the original question.
The prerequisites for rolling your own kernel are:
- A linux system
- Terminal Know-how
- A synched GIT (such as the Bravo CM7 branch)
- Patience
That is just for building the stock kernel.
The additional prerequisites for changing stuff:
- A text editor
- A set of OC/UV values (such as Eviolett's)
- Experience in the linux terminal - more than for just compiling the stock kernel.
It doesn't seem like a lot of work - Sync the GIT, chuck in a few values, and build it. In reality, however, there is a stack of other stuff to do. I have a fairly good knowledge of the linux terminal, but still spent a stack more time getting everything ready than I wanted to (hours, in fact).
As motivated as you may be, it ain't a walk in the park, even with a detailed set of instructions. Stuff is going to go wrong, and a lot of the time, problems differ from those prescribed in the instructions.
Having been there, done that (or more accurately, failed to do that), this is just my two cents.
EDIT: Just to clarify, I failed miserably.

Bradshort said:
Also if the ROMS were cross posted to FAQ by default then more people would end up there instead of using the search to find the ROM title and ending up at the DEV thread.
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Nice idea but look at Robo's "RCMix S v2.0 Evolutionary Sense" thread" it has a separate RCMix Guide/Tutorial/FAQ + 2 irc channels now have a look through the 12000 odd posts in that thread maybe 50% are total spam by people who don't understand how a forum works, fail to do any independent research but expect someone to hold their hand and explain everything slowly to them. I don't condone it but i fully understand the reaction a lot of "dumb" superfluous posts get

This. Simple fact is most people are incredibly lazy and thinking that devs are here to answer their every stupid question.

Terepin said:
This. Simple fact is most people are incredibly lazy and thinking that devs are here to answer their every stupid question.
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Must agree.. I spent probably 10+ hours researching before I flashed my first ROM..
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

I totally agree with fllash. It looks easy, but it certainly isn't.
Just start with downloading a copy of Ubuntu, version 10.04 and up will do just fine.
Why Ubuntu? Well, if you're only starting out with Linux and the more advanced topics such as compiling your own kernel, you'll need all the help you can get. XDA is a great community with a lot of information to be found, but it sure won't cover all the questions you'll have, so you might want to search trough the Ubuntu forums etc., as they might have more specific answers to your questions. There are also numerous books about starting with Linux, so you might want to check those out as well.
When you got a nice grip on working in Linux and the terminal, it's time to get busy programming!
If you're not a programmer already, you might want to start with Java. (Maybe write a little Android program? That way you'll also learn how Android works)
The Linux kernel is written in C and that might be a bit harsh to start out with. However, if you feel confident enough (or if you have programming skills already), go get yourself a book about programming in C, search some tutorials and start off writing some easy and silly programs, just to get a good grip on the language.
When you feel like you got a good grip on programming in C, feel free to download a kernel which is already compatible with the HTC Desire, one from CM or one from Thalamus (from Oxygen ROM) and take a look at the source code. Try to understand what makes it tick. Please note, that these kenels are for AOSP ROM's only! If you want a HTC Sense compatible kernel, go get the source from HTC which you can find here: http://developer.htc.com
By the time you got this far, it's only a piece of cake to compile and install. (Compiling and installing really isn't the hardest part about all this, so you'll manage to find your way out of this one)
Right now, you're probably thinking: "Is this all necessary? I just want my own kernel.." Well, yeah, it kinda is. You just can't follow a tutorial and end up with a kernel which is going to be great. There are going to be bugs, you're going to have problems, nothing will work from the first try.
Maintaining a kernel is hard work and requires a lot of knowledge in order to do a proper job.
Also, take a look at http://developer.android.com/. Knowing how Android works is kinda a requirement as well (at least, I consider it to be a requirement).
Oh, and for the record, please post in the correct forums next time. There's a Q&A section where you can search for, or ask questions. I understand that this is a dev-related question and you might have figured that the dev section would do fine, but unfortunately, it doesn't.
Okay? Well, happy learning! Don't let other forum members or some tough luck get you down.

[Q] What to do to install android

Hi
I am new in this site. I am using HTC TP2 T7373 Window mobile 6.1. I would like to install android in my sd. What after what I have to do? What and from where I have to download? I will be greatfull if any one instruct me in details.
Thanks

Please read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=980079
Or http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951962

helicopter88 said:
Please read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=980079
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That freakin thread is so confusing, I don't see how it's easier than mine...
[BUILD] **Complete Froyo Bundle!!** FRX06 - "Stable" - Minor Fixes - get it straight from the horses mouth!
That other thread covers a lot of other topics, which isn't bad... it's just kinda confusing IMHO!

arrrghhh said:
That freakin thread is so confusing, I don't see how it's easier than mine...
[BUILD] **Complete Froyo Bundle!!** FRX06 - "Stable" - Minor Fixes - get it straight from the horses mouth!
That other thread covers a lot of other topics, which isn't bad... it's just kinda confusing IMHO!
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Confusing? heh ;P
It offers an introduction as well as install instructions and troubleshooting and basic pc connectivity.

ryannathans said:
Confusing? heh ;P
It offers an introduction as well as install instructions and troubleshooting and basic pc connectivity.
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Yes, but my thread is very to-the-point. Not saying your thread is useless, just not the first thing a newbie should see IMHO. Once they work thru my thread, yours would be a good one to look at... assuming they actually read my thread or yours at all.

This isn't a thread battle,and Arrrghhh,i've not suggested your thread because your thread isn't for newbies and covers less topics
But i'll add it to my post

Is it possible to install a full blown rooted Android rom on the Rhodium? Thanks

arrrghhh said:
Yes, but my thread is very to-the-point. Not saying your thread is useless, just not the first thing a newbie should see IMHO. Once they work thru my thread, yours would be a good one to look at... assuming they actually read my thread or yours at all.
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I wasn't particularly eager to install xdandroid (even though I was excited about the concept) until I read ryannathans' thread. Granted it isn't organized well, but it doesn't assume knowledge that isn't there, which makes it ideal for the type of noob that will read.

Waynehead69 said:
Is it possible to install a full blown rooted Android rom on the Rhodium? Thanks
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Both XDAndroid builds are rooted - do you mean replacing WinMo? It's possible, but not stable. Doesn't play nice at all with GSM devices, and it's not easy/simple on CDMA ones.
See
NAND Testing - 05-25 Update: New LK, Recovery.img, Kernel Updates through Recovery if you want to know moar.
fortunz said:
I wasn't particularly eager to install xdandroid (even though I was excited about the concept) until I read ryannathans' thread. Granted it isn't organized well, but it doesn't assume knowledge that isn't there, which makes it ideal for the type of noob that will read.
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Is there something I should add to mine? I'm always open to suggestion, if you feel my first post is missing something that's essential, please do tell

arrrghhh said:
Is there something I should add to mine? I'm always open to suggestion, if you feel my first post is missing something that's essential, please do tell
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I don't see the point, everything I needed was in ryan's thread. They serve different purposes. You seem to mostly be focused on FRX06, getting people onto that entry level stable build. You mention kernels and the new rootfs in your thread, leaving someone like me to wonder WTF is a rootfs and kernel? Ryan fills in the blanks and focuses on getting people who don't know squat to FRX6.5, and gives us just enough info to understand the threads he links to. There's no reason for you to duplicate that.