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The original galaxy tab has a external keyboard for it , will it release for this gt10.1 ? Hope to have a keyboard that make me easier to type mails n gaming
I can see Samsung making a keyboard dock for gTab 10.1.
Must Have! As its replacing my dead netbook for the internets surfing.
I would be happy with just a smallish dock where we can plug in usb Keyboard and Mouse that charges and maybe HDMI out ect. Cheap enough to have one at work and one at home.
If this doesn't come about i guess it bt keyboard/mouse combo will have to do.
Anyone know if there if the 3rd parties have started making them?
Cheers.
This was posted by RaindancerAU on this forum
I was reading some of the comments on the Vodafone blog and came across this:
"Mark Sean says: April 18, 2011 at 12:26 am
HELP NEEDED:
Will the new accessories (announced for galaxy tab 10.1: BT Headset, Sound Station, Desk Dock and USB Connection Kit) be available for this model also? This is quite important for me to decide…
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Vodafone Blog says: April 18, 2011 at 10:47 am
Hi Mark,
I’ll get some confirmation and i’ll update you when i know more.
Cheers
AT
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Vodafone Blog says: April 18, 2011 at 11:19 am
Hi Mark
These accessories are available for the Galaxy Tab 10.1v, however we will not be selling them.
Cheers
AT"
So I guess we can count those as accessories we can use?
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The GT10.1 P7510 we were given at I/O has two circular charging contacts on each side of the charging port. Hopefully that equates to a charging dock that doesnt require plugging in.
aygriffith said:
The GT10.1 P7510 we were given at I/O has two circular charging contacts on each side of the charging port. Hopefully that equates to a charging dock that doesnt require plugging in.
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They did mention some docks during the reveal (forgot where it was, maybe CTIA?). Lets just hope Samsung won't take 5 months to release it though like they do for their phones.
If anyone knows, how long did it take for the original Galaxy Tab accessories to come out?
Logitech released a keyboard and separate mouse being marketed for Android 3.x tablets today on their website. The mouse is only for 3.1 devices according to the promo materials. The keyboard is a nice small keyboard with a case that is supposed to support the tablet as an easel when its not holding the keyboard. They're all Bluetooth devices.
I like the devices but wonder if they're with the price premium.
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The keyboards looks so nice ...
its a bluetooth keyboard and the price is about 70$ ;|
The GT10.1 P7510 we were given at I/O has two circular charging contacts on each side of the charging port. Hopefully that equates to a charging dock that doesnt require plugging in.
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I tested them with an ohm-meter, they are not conductive. They look like screw access covers.
Not sure if anyone has seen this, and I'm just assuming it's for the new 10.1
http://samsung.mobilefulfilment.com...ct.aspx?ProductVariantId=7CB310F08AD542FD9365
Wonder if that 10.1 Samsung branded keyboard will control my 7in Galaxy Tab? They definately have the same plugs on the bottom.
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I wouldn't doubt it. There's a video on YouTube where a kid has an I/O 10.1 and has a dock for his 7in Galaxy Tab. Did a little modification and the 10.1 works on the dock and does hdmi mirroring. He probably didn't adjust his overscan on his tv though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJAjNDuPf6k
Video of the keyboard, close up and stuff.
It's quite poor, since it's priced around 80$... But as a desk dock it's hell of a good one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQsjI4CcTWM&feature=player_embedded
There's also a case with an integrated bluetooth keyboard in it, that is an official samsung accesory, that costs 150$ LOL...
Picture here : http://www.samsung.de/de/Privatkund...d/BKC-1B1DEBGXEG/accdetail.aspx?atab=features
I'm looking at trading my backup phone to someone for this tab. Would anyone mind outlining the pros and cons? The only other tab I've really looked at was the cheap ainol novo 7 aurora. Any thoughts on comparison?
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Pros:
HDMI out
Coming ICS in the next few days or you can flash the on in the dev section
Home button (I like this)
Quick charge
Very portable
Micro USB port (no need for proprietary cable to sync to pc)
Pretty smooth even on HC compared to other dualcore tablets
Cons:
Short battery life (5 hours)
Slightly bad angle view from the bottom but you dont really look at the tab in that extreme angle
Digitizer sometimes loses connection with your finger briefly (latest ICS eliminated most of this issue or on HC theres a build.prop edit to fix it)
aznmode said:
Pros:
HDMI out
Coming ICS in the next few days or you can flash the on in the dev section
Home button (I like this)
Quick charge
Very portable
Micro USB port (no need for proprietary cable to sync to pc)
Pretty smooth even on HC compared to other dualcore tablets
Cons:
Short battery life (5 hours)
Slightly bad angle view from the bottom but you dont really look at the tab in that extreme angle
Digitizer sometimes loses connection with your finger briefly (latest ICS eliminated most of this issue or on HC theres a build.prop edit to fix it)
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Thanks appreciate the input! Seems like a pretty decent little tab so hopefully this deal goes down
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WeWearFedoras said:
Thanks appreciate the input! Seems like a pretty decent little tab so hopefully this deal goes down
sent from my AOKP'd SGSII
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Just curious what are you trading for it? You dont have to say if you dont want to. Or PM me if youd like.
I have a 2nd gen iPod Touch that i just cant stand any more and I have a JBL OnBeat that I can play my OgEvo through. With no way to charge it becomes a problem. Is there any android docks out there besides the Philips ones? With android being out for some time now why is there not a market for docks that are android specific? Please dont link me to some hack and slash job that somebody modded an iDock to work with android.
Thanks
Probably because the phones are all different shapes and sizes so no manufacturer wants to waste money on making them..
It could be done though.. with the right plastic inserts... kinda like a modular design type thing..
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Wordlywisewiz said:
Probably because the phones are all different shapes and sizes so no manufacturer wants to waste money on making them..
It could be done though.. with the right plastic inserts... kinda like a modular design type thing..
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wouldnt need any plastic inserts, the part that would hold the phone would just need to be spring loaded and able to turn 90 degrees to support phones with the charger on the side not the bottom. I figured out a way to hack and slash the JBL unit i have as it has a usb port on the rear and a 3mm audio in on the rear. Just would rather buy a unit for android.
http://the-gadgeteer.com/2012/11/13/gdock-speaker-dock-made-for-samsung-galaxy-devices/
Android really does need a good dock..
Would be a great kick starter project..
But I believe wireless charging plus NFC and Bluetooth dock would be much simpler for all devices to be able to use in the future..
So just lay your device anywhere on the surface it starts charging and NFC pairs the 2 via Bluetooth and plays music
Nexus dock Google common do it!
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http://the-gadgeteer.com/2012/11/13/gdock-speaker-dock-made-for-samsung-galaxy-devices/
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looks like a great dock, Ill add it to my christmas wish list.
http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-kills-keyboard-dock-for-galaxy-tabs-11268778/
So thats why we never got note 10.1 keyboard in US.
I still fancied the dock....
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I really wanted a transformer style dock, but using the oem cover to make it so that you can type comfortably works well.
mrbkkt1 said:
I really wanted a transformer style dock, but using the oem cover to make it so that you can type comfortably works well.
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I agree. This 30 pin connector, proprietary charging, no HDMI, coupled with no JB 4.2 so no miracast, this is one disconnected, connected, wired and shackled but supposedly mobile device.
I've only had it for three weeks and I miss a more connected, but liberated device.
It's frustrating cause this could be soooooo good.
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Too bad, the idea of a keyboard dock that also charged seemed good
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deecee52 said:
I agree. This 30 pin connector, proprietary charging, no HDMI, coupled with no JB 4.2 so no miracast, this is one disconnected, connected, wired and shackled but supposedly mobile device.
I've only had it for three weeks and I miss a more connected, but liberated device.
It's frustrating cause this could be soooooo good.
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Hdmi....would never use it....what to shackle it up to my tv? Pretty sure micro USB is not feasible for 2 amp charging. This baby already is soooooo good.
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299792458 said:
Hdmi....would never use it....what to shackle it up to my tv? Pretty sure micro USB is not feasible for 2 amp charging. This baby already is soooooo good.
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my playbook, and my note 2 use 2 amp chargers. I just lucked or on the 30 pin connector because I had a mini usb to 30 pin connector for my tab 2 7.0, and an extra cable.
The tf300 was a dream to type on with the dock, but honestly, my note 10.1 kicks the crap out of it. The oem cover works great, with the exception of a lot of e's that come out 3.
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I had no idea that this was happening.
It would be awesome if Samsung could come up with a transformer-esque type of keyboard/cover, or even a touch-cover like the Surface.
It makes the idea of a "Note netbook/laptop" a good one, but with two separated accessories i.e. stand + bluetooth keyboard, that idea is gone.
Shame :/
The tablet must be a tablet, not a computer if you want a computer buy it separately. A tablet is made for commands through touchscreen, if you want to have a tablet with dock keyboard buy a tablet-pc ( i own one..)
deecee52 said:
This 30 pin connector, proprietary charging, no HDMI, coupled with no JB 4.2 so no miracast
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Eh? I can find the Samsung connector (which is actually a standard called "PDMI") just about anywhere (at least in the States), I've got more charger options now than i had with my Moto Xoom, especially if you buy one of these. HDMI and AllShare Cast work on my device, too.
I've used 4.2 and we're not really missing much useful save the multi-user feature.
I have 4 BT Keyboards, including one with a built-in stick mouse and a cover that folks to make a stand; the combo (which is light enough I carry it around in a case with my Note) gives me everything I could get with the KB dock except maybe charging and it's apparently more portable as well.
I'd say we're pretty well-connected
A charging keyboard dock would have been bad ass.
FlagshipX said:
A charging keyboard dock would have been bad ass.
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seriously though, the battery life on the note 10 is pretty good, I would like the extra peripherals, like the full size sd and usb ports on the transformer docks.
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dei.andrei98 said:
The tablet must be a tablet, not a computer if you want a computer buy it separately. A tablet is made for commands through touchscreen, if you want to have a tablet with dock keyboard buy a tablet-pc ( i own one..)
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What I want is to travel without two toons of devices
Just one which does anything I need. And a tablet with (a good) keyboard can do that.
dayr said:
What I want is to travel without two tons of devices ... And a tablet with (a good) keyboard can do that.
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This. I've been able to travel with only my tablet (on certain business trips even) and have most of what i'd needed to do be accessible that way.
I went to verizon yesterday & saw a Samsung branded Keyboard dock for the Tab10.1. I tried it with the display model Tab 2 10.1 & it fit. I thought that the Tab 210.1 & the Note 10.1 were the same size. I was gutted to find it was not. It works if you pull out the plastic guide/holder, but then it is kind of flimsy in there. Bummer.
Wasnt there a rumor somewhere that one of Samsungs next tablets was going to be transformer-esque? I could have sworn I read something a few months ago about it.
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I went to verizon yesterday & saw a Samsung branded Keyboard dock for the Tab 10.1 ... I thought that the Tab2 10.1 & the Note 10.1 were the same size. I was gutted to find it was not.
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Well, with the GNote 10.1 LTE coming to VZ soon, I'd expect they'd be getting accessories there, too (and likely to be hugely overpriced), so I'd come back again a little while after the GNote's available in VZ stores.
Tempted to grab one off ebay. What can I say, sometimes I get typity.
dei.andrei98 said:
The tablet must be a tablet, not a computer if you want a computer buy it separately. A tablet is made for commands through touchscreen, if you want to have a tablet with dock keyboard buy a tablet-pc ( i own one..)
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That sounds sort of narrow-minded in my opinion. Why can't a tablet be both or why can't a computer be a tablet? For an artist like me, I would love the opportunity if tablets got powerful enough to rival their notebook counterparts and offered a desktop view as well as for easy access with a keyboard and trackpad.
With the move of ultrabooks , especially the Surface Pro, converging into tablet territory with full features, one must consider that to be a blessing than a curse. Think about it in this way: Would you carry a radio, cd player , portable DVD player with TV, game system and an ereader just to be able to use them, or would you opt for the simpler solution of an all in one deal? That is the number one reason why the iPod took off: portability. Not only can you get a radio, but a music player and now video, games and reading.
It gets roughly cumbersome to carry every single CD, DVD ,game cart/disc in addition to the hardware , let alone the books for brief reading in commutes in comparison to an all out deal.
For the average consumer and artist, such things are so hard to get that it is pushed towards the rich ,but now similar tech now exists that has the potential to allow for maximal power and capability and the ability to change form factors on the fly. Why should people have to be inconvenienced to buying several different products that can be brought under one device when it can be deducted into one singular product that is amazing and does it all , broadly speaking?
If we went by this flawed logic an mp3 player must play music only, but no radio , thus how would iPods and whatnot be popular if they didn't serve multiple functions simply?
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Eh? I can find the Samsung connector (which is actually a standard called "PDMI") just about anywhere (at least in the States), I've got more charger options now than i had with my Moto Xoom, especially if you buy one of these. HDMI and AllShare Cast work on my device, too.
I've used 4.2 and we're not really missing much useful save the multi-user feature.
I have 4 BT Keyboards, including one with a built-in stick mouse and a cover that folks to make a stand; the combo (which is light enough I carry it around in a case with my Note) gives me everything I could get with the KB dock except maybe charging and it's apparently more portable as well.
I'd say we're pretty well-connected
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Thanks.....I think. Glad to hear about the PDMI. Just have to figure out how to use it.
What I was trying too say is everything is an add on so my kit ends up being as bulky as my ultrabook and far more prone to losing some piece that makes the whole thing work. my last tablet logged about 100k+/- frequent flyer miles. Using one power brick with one power end, one multi headed usb, one multi headed hdmi, one universal battery charger brick fit neatly in an airplane amenity bag, and served two cameras, one phone and a tablet. Needed no OTG cable to get the CF card reader seen by the tablet. Because I have a GNex, I already have a data/sync switch on my usb cable.
The cameras are the hardest and heaviest to carry.
So far, I've had to add another amenity kit to add the adapters for the Note. And I still don't have a way of using it to run a projector or tv. My phone ends up doing that.
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Just bought one, stock is running out everywhere.
Time to think about soldering a split cable data/charging, and if that works hdmi.
Hope it's as nice as said, but returning is always an option in NL.:good:
Back in the days when I was more adventurous with my Infuse 4g, I put together a little project board that allows me to specify resistances between pins 4 and 5 of a Micro-B USB cable. This allowed me to force my phone into Car Dock mode, or act as a USB JIG (for Triangle-Away purposes), or even connect to the phone using UART. I have a TTL 3.3v level conversion on the other end (a nice little FTDI breakout board that provides a USB serial port), and that makes it simple to capture the output of UART while the phone boots. I’ve used this board on my Infuse, my Galaxy S2, and now my new Galaxy S4.
To get it to work this time, I had to connect the RxD, TxD, VCC and GND wires up like usual to the FTDI breakout board, but I had to attach the 619k resistance at a specific timing. Here’s the order:
Unplug battery
Attach MicroB cable to phone
Attach the 4 wires above (easy for me, with dip switches for each)
Attach battery
Start Putty
Attach 619k resistance between 4th/5th pins.
Watch the magic
Attached is the UART output from this. Many thanks to AdamOutler and his help with the previous generations of Samsung devices. Hope this somehow helps in the efforts to obtain root. Let me know if there's anything special you'd like me to try.
Just tried my jig on the S4, and it works to put the phone in download mode.
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I've been trying various resistances, and I can't seem to get to an SBL prompt. I'm wondering if this is because the bootloader is locked? If anyone has different results, please let us know how you did it. (thanks)
Any way I could get someone with some wiring experience to check out what we've got going on with the Samsung Infuse car dock on this thread? Trying to figure out why the Infuse car dock worked on the Skyrocket and SIII for me personally, but not the S4 - won't put it in car dock mode and won't charge the device.... if someone knew where the wires were supposed to be run, I have a spare base with a plug on it that's not attached to the mount that I can hack up, provided this isn't something too intense for me to get involved in! I can do a good bit of customizing when it comes to cars and car electronics, but I don't have all the cool tools it sounds like some of you have!
Thanks in advance for any insight you can bring to this discussion!
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Any way I could get someone with some wiring experience to check out what we've got going on with the Samsung Infuse car dock on this thread? Trying to figure out why the Infuse car dock worked on the Skyrocket and SIII for me personally, but not the S4 - won't put it in car dock mode and won't charge the device.... if someone knew where the wires were supposed to be run, I have a spare base with a plug on it that's not attached to the mount that I can hack up, provided this isn't something too intense for me to get involved in! I can do a good bit of customizing when it comes to cars and car electronics, but I don't have all the cool tools it sounds like some of you have!
Thanks in advance for any insight you can bring to this discussion!
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I set my jig-board to 619k exactly and provided it with vcc5v and a ground, and it does not charge and does not give car dock mode at all. For older Samsung devices, I always referenced:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=820275
However, it seems the hardware might have changed? The older handsets have the fsa9480 ... perhaps one of our hardware-oriented devs could tell us what the S4 has inside? Might point us in the right direction to get the same list of modes/resistances ...
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I set my jig-board to 619k exactly and provided it with vcc5v and a ground, and it does not charge and does not give car dock mode at all. For older Samsung devices, I always referenced:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=820275
However, it seems the hardware might have changed? The older handsets have the fsa9480 ... perhaps one of our hardware-oriented devs could tell us what the S4 has inside? Might point us in the right direction to get the same list of modes/resistances ...
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Well damn, I'm not the only one scratching their heads at this then, that's kind of good news! Thank you for testing, and you're right, I think once we have a little more answers, we'll be on to something here for sure!
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Aou said:
I set my jig-board to 619k exactly and provided it with vcc5v and a ground, and it does not charge and does not give car dock mode at all. For older Samsung devices, I always referenced:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=820275
However, it seems the hardware might have changed? The older handsets have the fsa9480 ... perhaps one of our hardware-oriented devs could tell us what the S4 has inside? Might point us in the right direction to get the same list of modes/resistances ...
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http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung+Galaxy+S4+Teardown/13947/1
Starting at step 14 they get into a detailed look at the hardware on board. Maybe this can help answer some questions for you.
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highaltitude said:
Just tried my jig on the S4, and it works to put the phone in download mode.
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I, too still have jig from GS2 day. it works with GS4 :laugh:
Here's what one of the guys from iBolt has to say about the dock, collected from two threads regarding the Infuse dock:
MikaelPe said:
The Infuse Dock can't be used with the Galaxy S4 no matter what. This has to do with the fact that Samsung has changed the pin-out configuration when moving to the "new platform" so there's no technical way (to the best of our knowledge) to get it to charge or to start the car-mode. Not sure if this helps?
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MikaelPe said:
Kryptos, as you probably saw in my reply on the other thread I unfortunately think the Infuse Dock is dead. Samsung have changed both the firmware and the pin-out so it neither charges nor is the traditional car-mode present anymore. As Samsung is not building their own OEM car dock it was probably not on the "checklist" so they simply skipped integrating the functionality. We've obviously figured out a solution and we are hard at work bringing a bunch of developers with us so they make their apps compatible with our Dock. We all can benefit from not only "DockMode" (as we simply call it henceforth) and the nice "aux-out" through microUSB, that is in my opinion a much bigger deal then anything they presented as "new feature" when introducing the S4. Hope this answers helps?
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So I ended up ordered the iBolt xProDock from Amazon, don't worry about replying to the PM I send you Aou since we really don't have any testing to do on the iBolt or modifying to do on the Infuse dock - it is dead and I don't think I'm prepared to even try and revive it!
Sorry to "necro" but I need more info on this. If you connect the 619K resistor before power-on won't it work? What are the settings for baudrate, error checking etc.??