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It has a secondary mic so just wondering if thats only for recording video or if it is also used for noise cancellation
It is used for noise cancellation as well, much like the secondary mic on the nexus one.
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It is used for noise cancellation as well, much like the secondary mic on the nexus one.
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Is there a way to confirm this? The getting started guide doesn't say that it can be used for noise cancellation during calls. But it doesn't say it can't do this either.
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Is there a way to confirm this? The getting started guide doesn't say that it can be used for noise cancellation during calls. But it doesn't say it can't do this either.
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Sure. Make a couple of test calls in a noisy environment, then stuff a wad of chewing gum into the secondary mike and make more test calls. Ask the person at the other end if they can hear a difference.
Most basic Android phones have this feature and I have no reason to think the GNEX wouldn't.
It never seems to do much good so its no big deal to me.
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Does it work when playing music? Like noise cancelling headphones?
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Does it work when playing music? Like noise cancelling headphones?
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Nope. Only with the mike.
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Nope. Only with the mike.
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Hmm. Seems like they missed a trick there. Oh well.
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Hmm. Seems like they missed a trick there. Oh well.
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Think about it...so much noise will seep in between your ear and the phone that it wouldn't make any difference.
Just get a nice pair of IEMs or a noise cancelling headset like the Audio Technica ATH-ANC7b (or their less expensive ANC products).
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Think about it...so much noise will seep in between your ear and the phone that it wouldn't make any difference.
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Lots of ANC headsets have the mic in an in-line power box on the cable. Bose come to mind for a start. So I don't see as it would be impossible to make the phone perform the ANC when using a standard headset.
Just get a nice pair of IEMs or a noise cancelling headset like the Audio Technica ATH-ANC7b (or their less expensive ANC products).
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I've got one, I just thought it would be cool if the phone did it.
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Lots of ANC headsets have the mic in an in-line power box on the cable. Bose come to mind for a start. So I don't see as it would be impossible to make the phone perform the ANC.
I've got one, I just thought it would be cool if the phone did it.
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Having the mic in an in-line box is very different from having the mic on the playback device. An in-line box is a small device that is most likely close to the earpieces and exposed to the same environment as the earpieces. The playback device is much larger, likely to be further away from the earpieces, and rarely exposed to the same environment, as they are more likely to be in pockets, purses, etc.
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Having the mic in an in-line box is very different from having the mic on the playback device. An in-line box is a small device that is most likely close to the earpieces and exposed to the same environment as the earpieces. The playback device is much larger, likely to be further away from the earpieces, and rarely exposed to the same environment, as they are more likely to be in pockets, purses, etc.
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Well obviously it would have to not be in a pocket. Not that it really matters since it doesn't do it anyway.
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Well obviously it would have to not be in a pocket. Not that it really matters since it doesn't do it anyway.
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When you are playing music, how often do you not have the phone in a pocket or purse or something like that? You will need an armband or belt holster. Having a feature that only works with certain kinds of holsters that most people don't have is a waste.
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Most basic Android phones have this feature and I have no reason to think the GNEX wouldn't.
It never seems to do much good so its no big deal to me.
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Wow. Totally different from my experience with GS2 and iPhone and BB.
I was standing right next to my neighbor's pressure cleaner as he was cleaning his roof the other day and my pops could not hear the engine at all while on the phone with me. I was amazed.
Maybe you are talking about older phones?
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So does the phone have dedicated mic for Noise cancellation or not? in the top back of the phone there a tiny hole is this the second mic for noise cancellation?
, currently i have the phone but there is no option mentioning noise cancellation anywhere
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So does the phone have dedicated mic for Noise cancellation or not? in the top back of the phone there a tiny hole is this the second mic for noise cancellation?
, currently i have the phone but there is no option mentioning noise cancellation anywhere
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Yes, it does. I've tested mine sitting next to my teams flight simulator which derives it's computing power from about 24 6foot double sided racks of servers...so it sounds like a hurricane of fans in that room and I've made calls there and people can't hear anything in the background just silence. When I had my 3gs iphone everyone said they couldn't hear anything but fans when i called them.
I don't know. I was just testing the Galaxy Nexus in a Verizon store and I was disappointed by the noise cancellation (compared to my Nexus One). I tested the two phones in the store with a lot of people talking and making noise in the background, by leaving myself voicemail messages.
With the Galaxy Nexus it was silent when I wasn't talking, but when I was talking you could hear the chatter of people in the background. This to me is typical of older phones that did not have a secondary mic to filter out background noise. Instead they just turned the mic off to cancel background noise when you weren't talking.
With the Nexus One, you couldn't hear any background noise at all, whether I was talking or not. The secondary mic lets the noise cancellation chip tell what's your voice and what's background noise and filter out the background, even when you are talking. This has been my consistent experience with the Nexus One and people always comment on how good it is.
I tested two different Galaxy Nexus phones in the Verizon store with the same results (the floor model and a handset belonging to one of the representatives in the store). It did not compare to the quality of the Nexus One. Also the Motorola Razr was much better too (Motorola has always put an emphasis on in-call audio quality that other manufacturer's ignore).
Really, given the results I got, the Galaxy Nexus to me seemed like it did not have proper noise cancellation at all.
It looks like the Galaxy Nexus does not have the Audience chip that's found in the Nexus One, which does the noise cancellation processing:
www.audience.com/products/overview.php
It's strange, because the Audience chip is in many of Samsung's Galaxy S and SII devices. Perhaps the Galaxy Nexus is using some inferior noise cancellation technology. I don't know. But, sadly, in my tests it didn't compare to the Nexus One.
[Edit: This review at PhoneArena claims they experienced the noise cancellation working on an HSPA+ version: www.phonearena.com/reviews/Samsung-Galaxy-Nexus-Review_id2915/page/4. I suppose it's possible that Verizon left the feature out? Or perhaps the store I was in was not loud enough to trigger the noise cancellation, since they describe the noise cancellation as "kicking in" in noisy environments. My impression on the Nexus One is that it is always operating and does not "kick in" at certain points. In any case, the experience on the Verizon Galaxy Nexus is still that I heard the background chatter of other people cutting in and out, as the microphone seemed to switch on and off depending on whether I was talking, which created an annoying effect, not experienced on the Nexus One.]
i got same problem too,try to call to GS2 and defy in the same area, G nexus noise cancellation very poor. hope they will release some kind of patch to fix it
On my Droid X the noise cancellation mic works great, *especially* for concerts, but you have to change the setting on the camera to "Concert." I see no setting in the GN's video camera options so if it does have noise cancellation it's probably not that great.
I wonder if there is an aftermarket camera that will utilize it a bit better.
Whoa, that's soo cool. How did I just discover this?
When your'e playing something through your phone do you like feel your device shaking not a vibrate but like feel whats playing through the phone? Thanks
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When your'e playing something through your phone do you like feel your device shaking not a vibrate but like feel whats playing through the phone? Thanks
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Not for me, I get pretty clear audio here with no shake or vibration.
so you can't like feel the sound through your device?
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so you can't like feel the sound through your device?
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I feel a very very small amount of vibration with the speaker at max volume but no rattle whatsoever, if your concerned about a bad speaker the best way to know is to really focus on the sound, no matter the size of the speaker it has a cone with a magnet, tweeters typically go bad and sound like a piece of paper slapping something. Due to the size of this speaker it may be hard to notice this imperfection but if your speaker has really bad quality then most likely it's no good.
If I have a bad speaker will it sound bad on all volumes?
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If I have a bad speaker will it sound bad on all volumes?
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Most likely, yeah it will, It may even give more clarity of a defect on lower volumes, I don't think it would be easy to find a speaker for the e4gt online so if your phones still under warranty, I would take it to a sprint service center and they will most likely repair it they're for you.
Just got it last week.
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Just got it last week.
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I know how you feel man, I had my first E4GT for a month then the screen went out as I was going to Vegas Nevada for a vacation and was relying on my phone as a camera
Greetings, sorry if this is redundant thread but I feel maybe this would get buried under the RL reviews. I have seen this behavior on 4 Pixel 2 XL's so far, one being mine, one being my friends and the two other's being from Verizon and Best Buy displays. Rather than explain here is a small video, excuse the mediocre quality https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7FoxEZjgi0&feature=youtu.be . Not sure if it's a case of small poor quality speakers and the volume is set too loud and will be lowered in a future software update? I'm wondering if speakers are just trash in general and it's either put up with it or return it? Or the slight possibility of a bad batch of devices? Or just some freak luck to see 4 units exhibiting the same exact symptoms. Video and music playback do have the same issue at louder volumes, just not to that extent with using the speakerphone with voice calls. Has anyone else noticed this on their new devices? Thanks for your input.
Based on what i tried at verizon and comparing to my iphone 7+ its not good. Not that loud and lack of bass
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My speakers sort of have a hum/buzz at higher volumes... Do yall's?
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My speakers sort of have a hum/buzz at higher volumes... Do yall's?
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Yes, that's exactly what was going on to all four of the devices that I have listened to. My device, my friends device and two demo devices from Best Buy and the Verizon store. It seems to be most noticeable when making calls on speakerphone as was indicated in the video I posted. Music/videos it's still there but not as bad cause possibly the max volume isn't as loud vs a voice call. I'm guessing the speakers are too small and Google set the max volume way too high for what the speakers are capable of. Or could be something else I'm not aware of . Either way for $1k it's pretty sad.
Edit: Decided to get a replacement from Google. Hopefully the next unit isn't as bad.
Supposedly the corners of the screen are adhered to the rest of the phone using some kind of foam backers (look up the ifixit breakdown on this device). Because it's not a 'glue" and closer to a foam, this is apparently what is causing the perceived "buzzy" sound when the volume is too loud.
I will say I was watching videos on youtube last night while my phone was sitting on my dining room table, and it sounded crisp and clear even at 75% loudness. I did not notice any buzzing vibrations going through the display or the phone from the speakers.
Im curious if you hear more noise when pluged in for charging. This was issue when we had nexus 6 with stereo speaker.
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Yes, that's exactly what was going on to all four of the devices that I have listened to. My device, my friends device and two demo devices from Best Buy and the Verizon store. It seems to be most noticeable when making calls on speakerphone as was indicated in the video I posted. Music/videos it's still there but not as bad cause possibly the max volume isn't as loud vs a voice call. I'm guessing the speakers are too small and Google set the max volume way too high for what the speakers are capable of. Or could be something else I'm not aware of . Either way for $1k it's pretty sad.
Edit: Decided to get a replacement from Google. Hopefully the next unit isn't as bad.
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I noticed this on 3 different Pixel 2 XLs as well. Does your replacement have it?
Mine does this as well. I'm pretty sure every one of them does. I called Google support last night and of course the tech was either playing dumb or hadn't heard of this but I really can't see how they don't know this is an issue.
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I've noticed about 50% and higher and with high pitched tones on the bottom speaker of my pixel 2 xl gets like a weird vibration or rattle sound. Like something is loose or the speaker is rattling the screen.
I've been listening to mine with music full blast and no issues. Don't alter the sound with the equaliser and it's great. Bottom speaker is louder than the top, but no issues like these on mine.
I just got my 2nd RMA. All of the phones, including the original one, have exhibited the buzzing/vibration from the bottom firing speaker that you all speak of. There is a large thread that confirms this from pretty much everyone. It's very obvious at volume levels of about 80% or higher on my current device. I'm also starting to wonder if the earpiece is crappy too. I just made several rounds of calls and during each call, I could pick up a buzz during low pitched feedback from the other end.
Here is the other thread that covers this exactly. https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2-xl/help/speaker-rattle-distortion-t3699373
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I've been listening to mine with music full blast and no issues. Don't alter the sound with the equaliser and it's great. Bottom speaker is louder than the top, but no issues like these on mine.
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It's not noticeable when playing music, especially if it's something that's fast paced. Instead, watch a YT video with dialogue, i.e. Linus Tech Tips, at full volume. You'll hear it then.
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I noticed this on 3 different Pixel 2 XLs as well. Does your replacement have it?
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Yup, I'm still on my original XL 2 cause there was dirt/dead pixels on my 2nd device. After hearing people don't have the issue on the speakers (which I find hard to believe). I would like to see someone without the issue supposedly doing a speakerphone call above 40% volume to show there's no distortion. So I have my third one coming and I'm pretty sure I'll end up keeping my original. I have zero confidence that I'll get a better or equal screen (w/o dead pixels or black debris particles under the glass). Makes you really think that LG has piss poor QC since the glass is generally fused in OLED displays so you would imagine they would be producing in a sterile environment.
Got one in the mail today and it sounds way better on speakerphone calls. Still has a little of the distortion at 100% volume but it's very minuscule compared to before. Manufacture date of 11/21/17.
Wondering how they sound on the XL because the speakers on the reg 2 sound great and get plenty loud. Best speakers I've ever had on a phone, going back to my M8.
The sound is so much louder than the original pixel, but the quality is meh at best. Definitely doesn't compare to my old HTC M7's speaker quality.
It does sound louder than my Pixel XL, but it is throatier too.
Anybody else playing music at full volume have your screen physically vibrating? When I touch the screen with my thumb, the whole screen is vibrating. WTF?
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Anybody else playing music at full volume have your screen physically vibrating? When I touch the screen with my thumb, the whole screen is vibrating. WTF?
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I feel the same thing, but I don't need to go anywhere near full volume to feel it.
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I feel the same thing, but I don't need to go anywhere near full volume to feel it.
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Yeah, starts about 3/4 volume and up. WTH? Feels like plastic vibrating. Yuck
Why does this matter? I'm not being snarky, I just don't understand what the complaint is. Does the screen, or any other part of the phone, rattle or otherwise misbehave?
I'm guessing the speaker drivers are located near the screen edges and are ported to the openings?
The front facing stereo speakers are loud and clear.
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Yeah, starts about 3/4 volume and up. WTH? Feels like plastic vibrating. Yuck
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It's designed that way...screen acts as a passive radiator yielding base and mid range tone amplification!
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The sound is so much louder than the original pixel, but the quality is meh at best. Definitely doesn't compare to my old HTC M7's speaker quality.
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I agree; it's louder but quality is poor. The DAC is not as good as the original Pixel. I have both and have done the comparison. I'm a bit disappointed in that.
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I agree; it's louder but quality is poor. The DAC is not as good as the original Pixel. I have both and have done the comparison. I'm a bit disappointed in that.
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Wait, what? Not in my experience. I also have both and the original Pixel's speaker was very bad.
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Wait, what? Not in my experience. I also have both and the original Pixel's speaker was very bad.
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Hmmm well people have different hearing and difference definition of quality when it comes to sound so I'll just leave it at that. All I know is when I play music in my car I bear differences and the pixel 2 XL isn't great. My pixel 1 sounds better. The speaker even though it's front facing also doesn't sound good especially at higher volumes.
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Hmmm well people have different hearing and difference definition of quality when it comes to sound so I'll just leave it at that. All I know is when I play music in my car I bear differences and the pixel 2 XL isn't great. My pixel 1 sounds better. The speaker even though it's front facing also doesn't sound good especially at higher volumes.
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I'll agree to disagree. Even with Bluetooth audio quality, the Pixel 2 XL is much better than the Pixel XL. The sound is louder and fuller.
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I'll agree to disagree. Even with Bluetooth audio quality, the Pixel 2 XL is much better than the Pixel XL. The sound is louder and fuller.
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I notice that you both have a different way to define what you consider better.
I notice that the 2 XL is throatier, a deeper sound. For me, this makes the XL better for voice; voices sound more natural
Sound quality if, of course, not B&O quality but what I value about the dual front-facing speakers is that you can hear stereo effects. I would have never even noticed (or cared) about this we it not for my 6P. It's one of those "once you have it you can't go back" kind of things. The speakers were THE reason I didn't get the OG Pixel and THE reason I want the P2XL.
I noticed that the sound quality of the built-in speakers is... terrible... to be putting it mildly. Initially I thought there was just a lot of bass but during calls the sound is very "sharp" but not in a good way, more like hurting my ears piercing. When I'm playing videos or music, not only is the top speaker at most half of the lower speaker's volume, but the overall experience is like the phone was dropped into a tin can. I already tried Wavelet to balance the speakers but the sound quality still is abysmal. My 3.5 year-old S9+ outperforms the 6Pro by far. The little things that bother me with this phone keep adding up and I'm not sure how many more I can take. At least the call quality should be OK, right?
.... Hopefully it ain't anything wrong with your device but I definitely don't have such an issue. I think the sound is great. Honestly I'm kind of impressed at how well the top speaker sounds yet I can barely even see the speaker based on how seamless the screen goes into the frame at the top.
Is it the best sound of any smart phone... No I'm sure it's not. Is it better than my pixel 4XL which had great sound to me, Yes. They are actually the same loudness yet the 6 pro sound is clearer at full volume. I understand that sound is subjective however I would have to 1000% disagree with you.
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.... Hopefully it ain't anything wrong with your device but I definitely don't have such an issue. I think the sound is great. Honestly I'm kind of impressed at how well the top speaker sounds yet I can barely even see the speaker based on how seamless the screen goes into the frame at the top.
Is it the best sound of any smart phone... No I'm sure it's not. Is it better than my pixel 4XL which had great sound to me, Yes. They are actually the same loudness yet the 6 pro sound is clearer at full volume. I understand that sound is subjective however I would have to 1000% disagree with you.
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Same here but not quite as loud as my Note 20 Ultra.
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.... Hopefully it ain't anything wrong with your device but I definitely don't have such an issue. I think the sound is great. Honestly I'm kind of impressed at how well the top speaker sounds yet I can barely even see the speaker based on how seamless the screen goes into the frame at the top.
Is it the best sound of any smart phone... No I'm sure it's not. Is it better than my pixel 4XL which had great sound to me, Yes. They are actually the same loudness yet the 6 pro sound is clearer at full volume. I understand that sound is subjective however I would have to 1000% disagree with you.
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So there might be something wrong with the device? The sound is basically like a 48 kbit MP3 file
EDIT: Maybe I'll head over to Best Buy this weekend to talk to the folks there and get a replacement if necessary.
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So there might be something wrong with the device? The sound is basically like a 48 kbit MP3 file
EDIT: Maybe I'll head over to Best Buy this weekend to talk to the folks there and get a replacement if necessary.
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So there might be something wrong with the device? The sound is basically like a 48 kbit MP3 file
EDIT: Maybe I'll head over to Best Buy this weekend to talk to the folks there and get a replacement if necessary.
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I have no complaints about the sound from mine. Nothing like you've described. I do hope that you get it worked out.
In developer settings you can change the stereo balance if you need to.
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I have no complaints about the sound from mine. Nothing like you've described. I do hope that you get it worked out.
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Thank you! I'll let y'all know
ironically a semi audiophile on reddit did a full on rant today how the audio had too much bass
meanwhile reviews say the speakers sound good and have actual bass for once but the mids/high increase the higher the volume gets
honestly these are very good sounding speakers for a smartphone especially when i compare to my galaxy note 9
For me the speakers are great, I have compared the sound with the iphone 13 and I have to say the pixels are better, at least for me. I know that for some they have too much bass, but for me it is perfect
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I noticed that the sound quality of the built-in speakers is... terrible... to be putting it mildly. Initially I thought there was just a lot of bass but during calls the sound is very "sharp" but not in a good way, more like hurting my ears piercing. When I'm playing videos or music, not only is the top speaker at most half of the lower speaker's volume, but the overall experience is like the phone was dropped into a tin can. I already tried Wavelet to balance the speakers but the sound quality still is abysmal. My 3.5 year-old S9+ outperforms the 6Pro by far. The little things that bother me with this phone keep adding up and I'm not sure how many more I can take. At least the call quality should be OK, right?
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I don't know how good the S9+ sounds, never had one. What I can tell is that the P6 Pro sounds good, it has a slight imbalance between top and bottom, but in terms of clarity and bass, it's a good sounding phone speaker. So either your expectations are extraodinary, or your device is defective. Best go to the place where you bought it and ask that the store rep compares the sound of your phone to one that they have on display, that way you can quickly find out if your device has a defect.
Thank you all! Is there a good app or sound piece that I can use to test?
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I don't know how good the S9+ sounds, never had one. What I can tell is that the P6 Pro sounds good, it has a slight imbalance between top and bottom, but in terms of clarity and bass, it's a good sounding phone speaker. So either your expectations are extraodinary, or your device is defective. Best go to the place where you bought it and ask that the store rep compares the sound of your phone to one that they have on display, that way you can quickly find out if your device has a defect.
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I wanted to go to the local Betsy Buy (bought it online through BB) but it's not available there. Not sure they could give me a device to compare mine to
I honestly felt the same way comparing the 6P to my 2 XL. the 6P sounds rather flat and unbalanced. Much prefer the older device.
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I honestly felt the same way comparing the 6P to my 2 XL. the 6P sounds rather flat and unbalanced. Much prefer the older device.
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Wow really? You have them side by side and compared? I ask because my 4 XL was definitely better than my 2 XL and the 6 Pro is definitely louder and has more range than my 4 XL at all volume increments. I agree it's ever so slightly louder on the bottom speaker than the ear piece one but it's not horrible.
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Wow really? You have them side by side and compared? I ask because my 4 XL was definitely better than my 2 XL and the 6 Pro is definitely louder and has more range than my 4 XL at all volume increments. I agree it's ever so slightly louder on the bottom speaker than the ear piece one but it's not horrible.
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I checked out the demo models at best buy both the 6 and pro. I will say at max volume the new devices are cleaner sounding.
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I checked out the demo models at best buy both the 6 and pro. I will say at max volume the new devices are cleaner sounding.
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Yeah in your home or reasonably quieter area than Best Buy, the difference is very noticeable. I keep all my sound volumes a little lower than my 4 XL settings because it's that much louder.