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Many people believe that SAMOLED screens on Samsung devices are far superior in every way to other devices. Recently with the addition of all these new and similarly spec'd WP7 phones, it seems like a big deciding factor is the screen display.
I have used a focus and a htc surround for a week in addition to my iphone 4. Watching avatar on both devices, I realize that both screens have their setbacks, thats right even the AMOLED!
The general consensus with htc devices is that the viewing angles are terrible. Check out any video review of a HD7 or Surround and you can see that the screens are extremely washed out when viewed at an angle, and unfortunately, many of these reviewers shoot their videos not head on for obvious viewing reasons.
But when viewed normally, the wp7 htc devices are definitely not as awful as at an angle. Still, it is nowhere near SAMOLED crispness or vibrancy. One thing I did notice, however, is that when watching the same video or viewing the same webpages on my iphone 4, I can rightfully say that the lcd screens from htc are just as good as the overly praised retina display. The differences of colors and sharpness between the two are too subtle to tell.
The SAMOLED screens "pop" in color and vibrancy. Whites are glowing white and blacks are dead on black. No one can say that the Samsung did a bad job on their new screens. However, one thing that people tend to misjudge is the color production on their devices like the focus or omnia 7. It seems that while the surround may not produce white and dark as vibrantly, the ACTUAL colors (red, blue, green) are pretty close to what they should appear. What I am saying is the SAMOLED screens are TOO SATURATED. Again this could all be subjective, but I find that the SAMOLED screen just goes for as vibrant and colorful as they can get, disregarding true color tones. For instance, skin in pictures looks intensely orange and I have never seen skies so blue in real life. Webpage colors can be a bit to contrasting as well. And my opinion is from comparing the SAMOLED to my macbook pro LED screen.
I watched avatar on my blu ray and compared it to the surround and the focus. unfornately to say, the focus just makes the navis look almost syrup-y bubblegum blue. The high contrast of samsung screens are good in some ways but in others, it just seems overdone.
HTC may have made their screens to warm in color, thus appearing a bit washed out when comparing to other wp7 devices. But the AMOLED screen seems too saturated in color production, not just compared to my surround, but also my macbook's screen as well as my LED tv.
So in the end which would you pick? What are your guy's thoughts?
I've never done that kind of testing but my captivate has an awesome screen and I would put it against any other screen. The ritna screen isn't as impressive as apple makes it out to be. At least for me. But I will say these are the best out of all of them. My friend just picked up the x10 and boy does the screen look like $h!#, next to mine.
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I 100% agree with you, infact I have had alot of iphone 4 users comment on how good the screen is on the HD7 which shows what a difference using the phone in a normal way makes when compare to viewing at some obsure angle.
I also have always though the colours look wrong on OLED screens, but having said that, I have always though that about samsungs HDTVs, they seem to over exagerate all the colours and sharpness to make you initially go "WOW", then when you think about it, they just look wrong.
Personally, im happy with my HD7 LCD, and would take SLCD over OLED at the moment.
The over-the-top vibrance is a reason why I went SLCD.
That and the Pentile pattern. My eyes are still well enough to notice fringing on rendered text as well as the pattern generally on evenly lit surfaces.
I had a Nexus One, the OMG-in-your-face colors get old quickly.
thanks for input, the captivate looks amazing running android and playing videos I agree.
But do you think there is a line between displaying vibrancy vs true colors?
Sometimes when I view images in the focus, it feels like I opened a photo in Lightroom or Photoshop and just cranked up the vibrancy settings to the max, resulting in some drastic color contrasts.
But then again, the LCD screens of HTC do seem last generation. If only they could meet in the middle.
@ Tom Servo, I actually think the Nexus One did a good job on their screens. They use regualr AMOLED screens just like the Zune HD from microsoft.
Color production was beautiful. Only complaint with those screens are that they practically turn invisible in sunlight haha.
For me, WindowsPhone7 is all about white letters on black background and some coloured squares in between.
I do not watch videos on the phone and I don't have much photos to display.
So I chose the Omnia7 with that gorgeous SAMOLED screen because it's superior for my use.
SAMLOED ftw. IPSLCD (retina display) is old, Apple just upped the pixel count. Put that many pixels in a SLCD and would look gorgeous.
Take a peek at this article, it has all you need to know:
displaymate.com/Galaxy_S_ShootOut.htm
Scroll down to section 8: Gamut.
You'll see that the SAMOLED is way over-saturated and that the
iPhone4 is very washed-out.
I own a Focus and a Droid, as well as an e-IPS and s-IPS panels, and I can
tell you that the article is spot on. Colors on the Focus are like crayola simple.
If you want accurate colors, then go somewhere else, but if you want the
"wow factor" then go SAMOLED hands down.
Hope that helps.
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@ Tom Servo, I actually think the Nexus One did a good job on their screens. They use regualr AMOLED screens just like the Zune HD from microsoft.
Color production was beautiful. Only complaint with those screens are that they practically turn invisible in sunlight haha.
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I went from Nexus to Trophy. Looking at the same pictures, I actually preferred SLCD. That and as I said, some people notice the Pentile pattern. Which also makes text fuzzier. With Metro being pretty sparse in busy textures and mostly text based, I think it makes more sense to use the display technology that has full resolution on all color channels. AMOLED has currently half the horizontal resolution on the red and blue channels.
In relation to Samsung devices, it's possible they're running their Digital Natural Imagine Engine in background. I haven't had a direct Samsung device with AMOLED, so I can't say.
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Take a peek at this article, it has all you need to know:
displaymate.com/Galaxy_S_ShootOut.htm
Scroll down to section 8: Gamut.
You'll see that the SAMOLED is way over-saturated and that the
iPhone4 is very washed-out.
I own a Focus and a Droid, as well as an e-IPS and s-IPS panels, and I can
tell you that the article is spot on. Colors on the Focus are like crayola simple.
If you want accurate colors, then go somewhere else, but if you want the
"wow factor" then go SAMOLED hands down.
Hope that helps.
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That was a GREAT article and very informative, though it can get a bit technical at times. To quote some interesting conclusions from the articles...(NOTE THAT THIS ARTICLE WAS WRITTEN PRIOR TO WP7 PHONE RELEASE)
"We compared the Galaxy S side-by-side to a calibrated Professional Sony High Definition Studio Monitor using a large set of DisplayMate Calibration and Test Photographs. All of the photos on the Galaxy S had too much color saturation, to the point of appearing gaudy, particularly faces and well known objects such as fruits, vegetables, flowers, grass, even a Coca-Cola can. Photos that include very color saturated objects, such as a fire engine, were in some cases painful to look at. These effects are similar to setting an HDTV to a Vivid picture mode and then turning up the Color and Sharpness Controls. The punchy and excessively vibrant looking images on the Galaxy S may initially get lots of oohs and aahs, like in many of the early reviews, but after a while the gaudy looking images will become tiresome and unpleasant."
"There is no decisive winner as each of the three “Super” displays significantly outperforms the others in more than one important area and significantly underperforms in other areas. The iPhone 4 by far has the brightest and sharpest display and is the most power efficient of the displays. The Motorola Droid by far has the best picture quality and accuracy. The Samsung Galaxy S by far has the lowest screen reflectance and largest Contrast for both bright and dark ambient lighting, and the best viewing angles. On the flip side, the iPhone 4 has a weak color gamut and viewing angles, the Motorola Droid has weak screen reflectance and viewing angles, and the Samsung Galaxy S has lower brightness, excessive color saturation, higher power consumption and some sharpness issues. "
so there you have it. according to Displaymate,
iphone 4 = best mobile display
motorola droid (surprisingly) = best mobile picture quality
Samsung vibrant = best mobile display technology
Samsung is notorious for producing display panels with oversaturated color pallet.
It is true for their Plasma, LCD, LED's on the consumer grade television sets and now SAMOLED displays on the mobile devices.
the oversaturation of the AMOLED's have been well documented prior to now. it doens't seem to be a problem for many as everyone has different interpretation of colors in their own eyes anyway.
I just think when u put these phone side by side...and contrast and vibrance of the samsung phones is just ridiculous...true color representation kinda falls to the side
The Retna screen is very impressive because the pixel density is much higher than on other screens. That makes reading on the screen MUCH easier on the eyes than on other screens. You may not consciously know it, but eye fatigue does happen and it's a huge consideration when buying a device you will spend so much time looking at. It also means the text will look much better when/if you zoom in on it.
It's like comparing a crappy CRT monitor to a high class LCD.
The color reproduction on sAMOLED is nice.
However, there's more to a phone than the screen.
HD7 has more RAM than other WP7 devices. It has a bigger screen than other WP7 devices. It has more storage than many other WP7 devices.
The only major downside to that phone, IMO, is small battery and the fact that the screen is flush with the front of the phone. Unlike something like a Vibrant, if you drop an HD2 or HD7 on its face it can destroy your screen.
Of course, that can be somewhat fixed with a case... Some people don't like cases, though...
I like the SAMOLED screens, but when I looked at the HD7 it was better than I thought it would be. That being said I do still want the SAMOLED. The other factors leaning me toward the focus (or samsung in general) are the fact that the screen has gorilla glass, making it much less likely to be scratched and when I was playing with the Focus and the Quantum/Surround/HD7 the screen on the Focus also seemed much more sensitive and responsive compared to the others.
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...the screen on the Focus also seemed much more sensitive and responsive compared to the others.
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This might have to do with the fact Samsung places the SAMOLED display directly beneath the capacitive screen. Other phones have a much larger space between the two.
The result is Samsung phones are often thinner, and they appear to be more accurate and responsive.
i put my omnia 7 up against a hd7 in the flesh ( metal/plastic) and there is no comparison. Theres just no going back to LCD now. and as for viewing angles, seriously?, viewing angles on a mobile phone? are you kidding me? no one holds their phone at an angle! its not like we are going to mount our phones onto walls and have 10 people gathered around to watch it.
Since having my desire with amoled display for about half a year I won't go back to lcd/slcd because I think the colors are far more superior at least to me.
I went for the Omnia 7 as business device and I couldn't be happier. Build quality is surprisingly very good, perfect screen size for my needs and all in all I'm glad that I didn't choose the HD7 imho.
Regards
It may not be the sharpest of display and not produce the most accurate colour and I wasn't particularly impressed with Galaxy S S-AMOLED screen on android!
However IMHO S-AMOLED looks stunning on WP7 OS, it really compliments the Metro-UI and when put side by side with S-LCD running the same OS it's just not the same! It's for this very reason that I went for Omnia 7 over HD7.
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Samsung is notorious for producing display panels with oversaturated color pallet.
It is true for their Plasma, LCD, LED's on the consumer grade television sets and now SAMOLED displays on the mobile devices.
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Samsung plasma and in general any plasma is not as oversaturated as other technologies. LCD and LED displays from all manufacturers are setup to be in the "torch" mode (sometimes called dynamic by the manufacturers) to stand out on the floor. And to compensate for the grayish black level they oversaturate the color.
After you calibrate though, they all look the same, almost. LEDs will have a bit of blooming, LCDs will not be as black as plasmas and plasmas will lack the brightness in case you want to watch in a sunlit room.
The iPhone 4's screen looks pretty good, but 3.5 inches? Ugh.
On many phones or laptops the screen blinks really fast (probably to preserve energy). Many people seem to be ok with /don't notice that, but it really drives me nuts when a device does this. There's no way for me to preview how the screen works before buying, so please tell me - does Galaxy Nexus' screen blink? (And I mean really fast turn off - turn ons, like 60 times per seconds or so)
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On many phones or laptops the screen blinks really fast (probably to preserve energy). Many people seem to be ok with /don't notice that, but it really drives me nuts when a device does this. There's no way for me to preview how the screen works before buying, so please tell me - does Galaxy Nexus' screen blink? (And I mean really fast turn off - turn ons, like 60 times per seconds or so)
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You mean refresh rate? ALL screens have a refresh rate. That's how the image changes. As for the Max refresh rate for the gnex panel, I'm assuming it's 60hz, which is standard for most android phones.
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Are you talking about the Auto brightness flashing when the screen changes brightness or the refresh rate. The flashing with Auto brightness can be fixed with a rom that lets you change the auto brightness. You can search the forums on how to do that with CM9. The refresh rate is stuck the way it is no way to change that. I do not think i have ever seen a refresh rate problem.
I've never seen nor experienced anything similar to this. Or even heard of it anywhere except on the One X.
I am okay with it although I am not bothered even at 50Hz, some people can be extremely sensitive and there's no way out of that. I watched lots of Nexus reviews on youtube and I never seen the screen flicker effects. 50fps videos looks very smooth on Nexus.
For America, there is the Nexus for Sprint and Verizon so you might be able to try them out in the store.
This video shows the SIII flickered like crazy, but isn't a problem in other reviews, so I guess its either his camcorder fps or a problem with his SIII unit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DQ_UAtrnOg&feature=plcp
I'm not talking about the refresh rate I mean the backlight of the screen blinking independently, very fast. You can see it on many older Nokia phones, but recently I found out that my new Samsung Netbook does this and it drives me nuts! There's no way to change it, I think it's physically built into the device
Samsung phones use AMOLED screen which they manufacture. I don't know a lot about OLED technology, but the pixels light up themselves, therefore backlight is not used with OLED screens. AMOLED screen can achieve exceptional black level and high contrast ratio. As for how fast the subpixels in an AMOLED screen blink, I have no idea.
Before you get the Nexus, you should also read up on Pentile matrix versus RGB matrix. The Nexus and SIII use Pentile matrix making things appears grainier on close up. But for me, the Nexus screen is beautiful.
If you can find a store that sells a galaxy nexus, head in and see if you can see that "blinking". Personally, I haven't seen that blinking issue on my gnex.
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That's what I would do if I didn't live in Poland It was very surprising to me how little known is this phone in here
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I'm not talking about the refresh rate I mean the backlight of the screen blinking independently, very fast. You can see it on many older Nokia phones, but recently I found out that my new Samsung Netbook does this and it drives me nuts! There's no way to change it, I think it's physically built into the device
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No it doesn't flicker. Its an amoled screen so there is no traditional backlight. Individual pixels light up rather than needing a backlight.
Nexus has no flicker. Its smooth as butter.
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Samsung phones use AMOLED screen which they manufacture. I don't know a lot about OLED technology, but the pixels light up themselves, therefore backlight is not used with OLED screens. AMOLED screen can achieve exceptional black level and high contrast ratio. As for how fast the subpixels in an AMOLED screen blink, I have no idea.
Before you get the Nexus, you should also read up on Pentile matrix versus RGB matrix. The Nexus and SIII use Pentile matrix making things appears grainier on close up. But for me, the Nexus screen is beautiful.
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You need a damn microscope to even tell the screen is pentile. Or hold the phone directly in front of your face.
The OnePlus 3T has a crazy crisp display. Just kidding, this is automated text so who knows if this screen is any good. So, you be the judge! A higher rating indicates that it's extremely sharp and clear, and that you cannot see pixels with your naked eye.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
How do you find the sRGB-mode? I dont like it at all. The colours are not colourful any more in that mode. I find custom mode full warm the best though...
What about you?
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How do you find the sRGB-mode? I dont like it at all. The colours are not colourful any more in that mode. I find custom mode full warm the best though...
What about you?
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Same, custom mode with full warm is my fav so far. Whites in other modes looks little blueish to me.
At first I thought S-RGB mode to be very bland in comparison with the default's vibrant colours. But after trying out the S-RGB for a day straight I don't want the default anymore xD
Everything seems much more realistic, accurate, not overly saturated, and even soothing/calmer with S-RGB. Default now gives off a wacky vibe, like I'm high or something
Edit: Tried custom full warm like the posts above, but I don't like it during the day. At night it is good, but still prefer the S-RGB for most of the day.
I really dislike the screen of the OP3T and I'm probably going to return mine because of it.
Unfortauntely I can't post an image comparison I made but you can probably see it for yourself: get some app with sharp edges in the UI and black on white text (Now for reddit, for example), you'll notice a bit of color fringing around the text, typically some green above and purple below the characters' lines. This makes text look somewhat out of focus and uncomfortable to read.
It really sucks compared to my Nexus 5's IPS screen, sure more vibrant colors but what use is that if it can't display text in a readable form?
Too bad, I really like the rest of the phone. Now I'll have to go back and look for another affordable dual sim high-spec phone.
(This is my second OP3T after I returned the first one believing this was a manufacturing defect, after some looking around it seems to be a result of the screen being a PenTile AMOLED display at a too low resolution for the size)
i now have a huawei p9 with 1080p ips lcd and 5,2". i like the uniformity and the "sharp edges" (no pentile matrix) of the display.
anyone in the same boat and did a "downgrade" to the OP3T amoled screen?
i`m a little bit afraid of uneven gray level (yellow on one side) and fuzzy fonts which are not so comfortable readable as on a lcd display.
l like the phone specs but worried about the low resolution screen - anyone have this and the s7 edge and can compare the screens ?
sRGB mode is really great in my opinion --> the calibration in this mode is great, so you can be sure, that everything on the web and in apps looks as the creator intended, as sRGB is for the time being the "standard" color profile.
I have no problem with the pentile matrix and 1080p resolution --> while I can notice a difference in sharpness compared to the OPO with its 1080p IPS display, the display of the OP3T is all around great. I would put the sharpness of the OP3T around the sharpness of the iPhone7 (non plus) with its 326ppi.
The sRGB mode on the OP3 is way better.. The OP3T sRGB mode is definitely pretty washed out with a lot more yellow tint..
I'm sure one plus can tweak that.. Nothing inherently wrong with the screen coz I think they're the same..
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I really dislike the screen of the OP3T and I'm probably going to return mine because of it.
Unfortauntely I can't post an image comparison I made but you can probably see it for yourself: get some app with sharp edges in the UI and black on white text (Now for reddit, for example), you'll notice a bit of color fringing around the text, typically some green above and purple below the characters' lines. This makes text look somewhat out of focus and uncomfortable to read.
It really sucks compared to my Nexus 5's IPS screen, sure more vibrant colors but what use is that if it can't display text in a readable form?
Too bad, I really like the rest of the phone. Now I'll have to go back and look for another affordable dual sim high-spec phone.
(This is my second OP3T after I returned the first one believing this was a manufacturing defect, after some looking around it seems to be a result of the screen being a PenTile AMOLED display at a too low resolution for the size)
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I'm calling BS on this one. Smells like a troll...
I just got OnePlus 3t for a week. The screen sharpness look okay to me, I have s6 and s7 edge to compare and I can't see any pixel in these phone except both samsungs look sharper. The only complaint here is that the screen panel doesn't look very black when see in daylight and not as vivid/warm, compare to my iPhone 6s. But custom setting to nearly full warm help a lot.
I use to be afraid of the pentile 1080p too, but now I can say it look very great.
I'm disappointed in the clarity of the screen, it looks quite pixelated and grainy to me. I can't understand why OP didn't go for a QHD in the 3T
I preffer 1920x1080 in my 3T, the screen has a lot of quality in my opinion, I don't want anymore.
I don't like the screen at all, it just isn't as sharp as other phones compared to today's standards its not great. Im quite let down by it.
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I don't like the screen at all, it just isn't as sharp as other phones compared to today's standards its not great. Im quite let down by it.
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LeL
It's decent in my opinion
I came from Galaxy S6 and its (well, let's face it) outstanding quad HD display and actually the downgrade in resolution is in fact noticeable for me. Not a big deal though, it may be just me being crazy about some minor details
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It's decent in my opinion
I came from Galaxy S6 and its (well, let's face it) outstanding quad HD display and actually the downgrade in resolution is in fact noticeable for me. Not a big deal though, it may be just me being crazy about some minor details
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Agreed, I'm used to using 2k screen phones and I'm perhaps being a bit OCD about it. The 3T screen isn't bad by any means, I can just see the difference from my old 2k phones which is annoying me. I'm also noticing the PWM on the screen and that's something I've not noticed in phones since I had my old Note 4.
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Agreed, I'm used to using 2k screen phones and I'm perhaps being a bit OCD about it. The 3T screen isn't bad by any means, I can just see the difference from my old 2k phones which is annoying me. I'm also noticing the PWM on the screen and that's something I've not noticed in phones since I had my old Note 4.
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Exactly, I totally agree with you
Such an amazing phone but the 1080 pentile is ugly, you're only getting an effective resolution of around 900p because of it. I feel the phone is spoiled a lot because of this.
sRGB mode is a must also on this panel.
Coming from a Moto X Pure, which has a 1440p display, I can definitely tell the difference, especially when I resize my desktop icons using Nova Launcher, with the display set to small on Nougat. This phone however is blazing fast compared to the Pure, so I'll be getting used to the display and set my icons to a somewhat smaller size (120% instead of 130%.)
I have no reason to root this thing either, except for a custom kernel with KCAL support and using Kernel Adiutor-Mod. None of the sRGB settings are good enough for me. I need Samsung-like bleeding color settings.
EDIT: Solved the blurry icons with Nova by disabling the "Normalize icon size" option.
The Xiaomi Mi A3 has a crazy crisp display. Just kidding, this is automated text so who knows if this screen is any good. So, you be the judge! A higher rating indicates that it's extremely sharp and clear, and that you cannot see pixels with your naked eye.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
If you have enough time, you can actually count all the pixels by naked eye.
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If you have enough time, you can actually count all the pixels by naked eye.
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Dont forget the price of the phone.
For the price all are very good.
You took more than you pay for me.
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Dont forget the price of the phone.
For the price all are very good.
You took more than you pay for me.
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Ya for the price this is a really good phone, the display is the only con but u won't notice it untill u compare it with a full hd panel this aside what u get is a amoled panel and a indisplay finger print scanner
It's a good display knowing it has samoled display , but yes the pixels are visible
I'm coming from an old samsung galaxy j3 (720p) and to be honnest I am NOT disapointed, and no, I cannot count the pixels by naked eye.
It's an amazing phone for its price, and I'm glad I bought it.
Agreed, some people are exaggerating the pixel counting thing
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I'm coming from an old samsung galaxy j3 (720p) and to be honnest I am NOT disapointed, and no, I cannot count the pixels by naked eye.
It's an amazing phone for its price, and I'm glad I bought it.
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Some people are really blowing things out of proportions. I bet they don't even have this phone / didn't use it for long. They just read some BS on the internet about how awful that display was & now they are crying foul over it on this forum
I'm coming from Mi 8 SE, which has a HDR10 capable super amoled panel. Obviously, it will be foolish to compare Mi A3's panel with that phone but I must say, A3's display rather surprised me. The colors might be over saturated for some people but honestly, it looks quite good. And no, I really couldn't see the pixels. Well, the pixels are kinda visible, specially when you're trying to read an article with white fonts against a dark background Still, the AMOLED panel is good.
(Hey Xiaomi, this doesn't mean you should start this ridiculous trend of putting low res screens on your mid-range devices Especially the Mi A series, which happens to have a huge fan following. Stupid move)
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The Xiaomi Mi A3 has a crazy crisp display. Just kidding, this is automated text so who knows if this screen is any good. So, you be the judge! A higher rating indicates that it's extremely sharp and clear, and that you cannot see pixels with your naked eye.
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Any one noticed warm display ? (Yellowish tones)
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Any one noticed warm display ? (Yellowish tones)
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Mine has yellowish tone too. It's not unbearable or anything, but the display is on the warmer side. I know some people like it cool, but I don't mind a display which appears warm. I find it easier on my eyes, especially at night.
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Mine has yellowish tone too. It's not unbearable or anything, but the display is on the warmer side. I know some people like it cool, but I don't mind a display which appears warm. I find it easier on my eyes, especially at night.
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Agreed with you on soothing warm tones.
I guess I will keep it like that
Display is good and clear. but you can see the pixels with naked ayes if you're close enough...
Night light is also not usable, even on the lowest setting it is too much red/warm. I just want to make the display like 5-10% warmer, and not go into red berserk mode.
If you go into developer mode, does picture color mode or simulated color space help?
I got the phone for my wife, was playing with it for a few hours and these are my findings and comparison with Mi A1:
- A3 has warm tones, A1 is very cool (haven't noticed it before the comparison)
- night light is fine at minimum intensity or just a tad above, definitely not a red berserk. A1 has strong blue hue even with night light (haven't noticed it before).
- A3 has clearly visible pixels, it's a huge downgrade compared to A1 side by side. BUT, after a while, I did not really mind the pixelation of A3 that much (humans can get used probably to anything).
- without my correction glasses, I strongly prefer A3 display over A1. Something how it's being blurred by my eyes makes AMOLED more comfortable.
- colors are nicer/punchier on A3 (confirmed by my wife too)
- brightness seems to be quite low, for the same perceived level I need to configure A3 ~70%, A1 ~50%. I can't imagine using minimum brightness in real life (the same goes with A1), it's barely visible. Need to compare both phones in strong light / outdoors.
- PWM does not flicker at any brightness level
Overall, I would definitely prefer 1080 AMOLED over 720 AMOLED. 720 AMOLED vs. 1080 LCD is a tough call. I'm still debating myself whether I should switch from A1 to A3. I really like the form factor, responsiveness, absolutely clear audio output, 128gb storage, file based encryption and the feel of A3. Non existing "Mi A3 PRO" (Mi CC9) would be a better choice, though bigger form factor is definitely less comfortable for one hand usage (the main reason why I want to replace A1). Decisions, decisions..
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I got the phone for my wife, was playing with it for a few hours and these are my findings and comparison with Mi A1:
- A3 has warm tones, A1 is very cool (haven't noticed it before the comparison)
- night light is fine at minimum intensity or just a tad above, definitely not a red berserk. A1 has strong blue hue even with night light (haven't noticed it before).
- A3 has clearly visible pixels, it's a huge downgrade compared to A1 side by side. BUT, after a while, I did not really mind the pixelation of A3 that much (humans can get used probably to anything).
- without my correction glasses, I strongly prefer A3 display over A1. Something how it's being blurred by my eyes makes AMOLED more comfortable.
- colors are nicer/punchier on A3 (confirmed by my wife too)
- brightness seems to be quite low, for the same perceived level I need to configure A3 ~70%, A1 ~50%. I can't imagine using minimum brightness in real life (the same goes with A1), it's barely visible. Need to compare both phones in strong light / outdoors.
- PWM does not flicker at any brightness level
Overall, I would definitely prefer 1080 AMOLED over 720 AMOLED. 720 AMOLED vs. 1080 LCD is a tough call. I'm still debating myself whether I should switch from A1 to A3. I really like the form factor, responsiveness, absolutely clear audio output, 128gb storage, file based encryption and the feel of A3. Non existing "Mi A3 PRO" (Mi CC9) would be a better choice, though bigger form factor is definitely less comfortable for one hand usage (the main reason why I want to replace A1). Decisions, decisions..
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Stop giving reviews after "playing a few hours" with the gadget. Your wife will be blind soon, but then you will not update your review. This phone can cause blindness. You have been warned.
peterf81 said:
Stop giving reviews after "playing a few hours" with the gadget. Your wife will be blind soon, but then you will not update your review. This phone can cause blindness. You have been warned.
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Oookey..well noted, thanks! I will update the review as soon as she's blind.
peterf81 said:
Stop giving reviews after "playing a few hours" with the gadget. Your wife will be blind soon, but then you will not update your review. This phone can cause blindness. You have been warned.
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Lmao this guy man. He's been spreading literally nothing but hate on every thread. What a sad little man.
bibekmufc said:
Lmao this guy man. He's been spreading literally nothing but hate on every thread. What a sad little man.
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Don't listen to ppl trying to downplay this issue, or you end up with a smartphone that has the worst display in the history and eye damage.
peterf81 said:
Don't listen to ppl trying to downplay this issue, or you end up with a smartphone that has the worst display in the history and eye damage.
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Dude, I had even "worse" display few years back (Huawei P1) - pentile AMOLED with 256ppi (vs. 286ppi on A3). I was using it for about 2 years and I did not go blind. Don't generalize your personal health issues, there are thousands of A3 phones in use, yet I found only ONE health complaint. If it was that serious as you claim, some people couldn't pass the opportunity for a nice law suite. It should be a no-brainer to prove it.
_mysiak_ said:
Dude, I had even "worse" display few years back (Huawei P1) - pentile AMOLED with 256ppi (vs. 286ppi on A3). I was using it for about 2 years and I did not go blind. Don't generalize your personal health issues, there are thousands of A3 phones in use, yet I found only ONE health complaint. If it was that serious as you claim, some people couldn't pass the opportunity for a nice law suite. It should be a no-brainer to prove it.
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You are throwing around numbers and comparing. I am giving first hand experience. Again, I have to repeat myself, there is something very wrong with this display, maybe the combination pwm+pentile+low resolution+something else? that is causing massive eye strain.
My only concerns regarding the Realme X2 are (I've never owned a Super AMOLED phone before):
1) I'm really worried about burn-in, and the uneven pixel-wear, which will may lead to a "blotchy" and non-uniform screen in a few months.
2) Modern Super AMOLED screens use the diamond PenTile matrix, two pixels per sub-pixel, each with a green and (a red OR or a blue). For a 1080p panel, this gives a lower "effective resolution" than a 1080p LCD IPS display, it's (very roughly) 840p according to my crude maths of: ((720 R + 1080 G + 720 B) / (1080 R + 1080 G + 1080 B) * 1080). I'm worried this going to be noticeably worse (more grainy / less sharp / more pixelated) than a 1080p IPS LCD phone. Is the difference actually perceivable?
Having said that, I've noticed that on larger IPS LCD phones (6.29 inches and above), the flaws of IPS LCD become more obvious to me, such as noticeable changes in brightness (backlight intensity) between the top and bottom of the phone (even when looking at it head-on), and shadowing / backlight bleeding, and even ghosting/blurring of text when scrolling has become more noticeable.
So, are either of my points 1) and 2) actually things to be worried about on the Realme X2, or is Super AMOLED really better than LCD overall (i.e. In terms of image quality, for reading text and seeing details in photos)?
Perhaps the Realme 5 Pro (albeit with a weaker chipset) is a better choice for someone like me who's worried about the issues above?
Coming from an iPhone 8+, I can honestly say this Realme X2 is the most beautiful mobile screen I've ever watched / looked at / used. Deep blacks, bright whites, no backlight bleed, and quite energy efficient, especially when using dark theme. You choose if you want vibrant or sRGB color in settings, both look good.
Videos look amazing, regardless of whether it's a commercial (streaming / downloaded) product, or something you shot yourself on the ultra stabilized, almost gimbal like rear camera (you didn't ask, but this is an amazing camera for a phone). The screen also looks great monitoring a DJI Osmo Pocket gimbal, and monitoring flight of camera drones. I can't speak of the burn in issues, since I've only had it for a month, but I'm coming at this from the point of view that I can buy 3 or 4 of these phones for the price of a single iPhone plus model, so I simply don't care that much. If it provides me with a solid mobile platform for 1 - 2 years, I'm beyond ecstatic. and if not, oh well, interesting experiment.
In the end though, you've gotta do what is right for YOU. Nobody else can make that choice for you. I see no reason to worry about the screen, but you certainly might.
haiti525 said:
Coming from an iPhone 8+, I can honestly say this Realme X2 is the most beautiful mobile screen I've ever watched / looked at / used. Deep blacks, bright whites, no backlight bleed, and quite energy efficient, especially when using dark theme. You choose if you want vibrant or sRGB color in settings, both look good.
Videos look amazing, regardless of whether it's a commercial (streaming / downloaded) product, or something you shot yourself on the ultra stabilized, almost gimbal like rear camera (you didn't ask, but this is an amazing camera for a phone). The screen also looks great monitoring a DJI Osmo Pocket gimbal, and monitoring flight of camera drones. I can't speak of the burn in issues, since I've only had it for a month, but I'm coming at this from the point of view that I can buy 3 or 4 of these phones for the price of a single iPhone plus model, so I simply don't care that much. If it provides me with a solid mobile platform for 1 - 2 years, I'm beyond ecstatic. and if not, oh well, interesting experiment.
In the end though, you've gotta do what is right for YOU. Nobody else can make that choice for you. I see no reason to worry about the screen, but you certainly might.
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Thank you very much for your opinion, that's good to hear, I'm glad you're enjoying it