Hello,
Does anyone have the list of android services imposed by Sprint/T-mobile that the carrier installs?
I'd like to see about disabling them using adb so it's not permanent, just until you reboot. I recall years ago doing this on my LG G6 but not sure if the services are different on the Samsung A54 5G from Sprint (now T-mobile, but billed through Sprint so maybe Sprint puts their own spin on the services they force onto the phone).
There was a command in ADB that would let you view a list of all the services and dump them to a text file. This was handy when you wanted to generate the script of adb commands to selectively disable only certain services. But it's sometimes tricky knowing if a service is optional and can safely be disabled, or if it's critical to phone operation and should never be disabled. Sometimes the services have very non-intuitive names. Ideally I could find a list of each service and what it does so I can positively identify the Sprint-specific services that the phone doesn't need to be running all the time.
KingFatty said:
Hello,
Does anyone have the list of android services imposed by Sprint/T-mobile that the carrier installs?
I'd like to see about disabling them using adb so it's not permanent, just until you reboot. I recall years ago doing this on my LG G6 but not sure if the services are different on the Samsung A54 5G from Sprint (now T-mobile, but billed through Sprint so maybe Sprint puts their own spin on the services they force onto the phone).
There was a command in ADB that would let you view a list of all the services and dump them to a text file. This was handy when you wanted to generate the script of adb commands to selectively disable only certain services. But it's sometimes tricky knowing if a service is optional and can safely be disabled, or if it's critical to phone operation and should never be disabled. Sometimes the services have very non-intuitive names. Ideally I could find a list of each service and what it does so I can positively identify the Sprint-specific services that the phone doesn't need to be running all the time.
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the carriers add the same services to any phone under their brand, most of the related to bloat apps
tutibreaker said:
the carriers add the same services to any phone under their brand, most of the related to bloat apps
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Do you know if the list of services from years ago by the carrier Sprint has changed, since Sprint was taken over by T-mobile and now does T-mobile add more on top of those from Sprint?
KingFatty said:
Hello,
Does anyone have the list of android services imposed by Sprint/T-mobile that the carrier installs?
I'd like to see about disabling them using adb so it's not permanent, just until you reboot. I recall years ago doing this on my LG G6 but not sure if the services are different on the Samsung A54 5G from Sprint (now T-mobile, but billed through Sprint so maybe Sprint puts their own spin on the services they force onto the phone).
There was a command in ADB that would let you view a list of all the services and dump them to a text file. This was handy when you wanted to generate the script of adb commands to selectively disable only certain services. But it's sometimes tricky knowing if a service is optional and can safely be disabled, or if it's critical to phone operation and should never be disabled. Sometimes the services have very non-intuitive names. Ideally I could find a list of each service and what it does so I can positively identify the Sprint-specific services that the phone doesn't need to be running all the time.
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I know what you're talking about, it was called CarrierIQ. I wonder if they are still installing it on phones? I'm gonna have to look it up now! lol
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After purchasing several Optus X Smart 4G smartphones outright that are currently being sold in Australian stores I felt the need to make others aware.
Despite being branded as an Optus mobile phone it is actually an Alcatel mobile phone that comes shipped with some nasty packages, one being "Files" that after several days of enjoying your new purchase is upgraded to "File Manager" an application which now runs a boost application (Hawk Super Cleaner/ antivirus).
This boost application runs 24/7 and nags the user to click an icon then displays advertising. When you remove this application it defaults back to the factory installed version that does not contain "File Manager" stuffed with the boost aplication.
Being installed as an Android System App "File Manager" stuffed with Hawk Super Cleaner/ antivirus is granted with higher Android Operating System App permissions than the end user has limited controll over which brings privacy and security concerns to the device IMHO.
To stop automatic updates that will reinstall the boost aplication a user needs to log onto the Google Playstore and go into settings, then check do not automatically update applications to stop ALL playstore automatic app upgrades. Doing this in the phones bundled "Updates" aplication has no affect in stopping the automatic reinstall. Caveat being that Playstore app upgrades now ALL need manually input from the user who needs to remain mindfully to not update "File Manager".
The other option is to run "File Manager", go into settings and turn off the on screen alerts, this will allow "File Manager" stuffed with Hawk Super Cleaner/ antivirus to run 24/7 on the device and be granted with the many permissions you (like myself) may not want to (and never did) accept upon uograde / install,. However, the on screen displays will be gone from the phone.
Don't bother trying to stop it on the Android operating system level via options like disable app, do not allow peeking and rely on uninstall to the factory shipped version of the app as Android and Included bloatware settings do not act as expected and it will automatically install itself again, also displaying on screen despite the end users wishes and Android settings being checked.
Never being advertised that the phone would have on screen advertising to the end user or forced third party apps as part of the Android operating system I have made a complaint to Optus, the communications ombudsman, the "File Manager" developer, Playstore, Play Protect, XDA forum and anywhere else that I felt relevant.
My unconfirmed fear is that this device may allow the manufacturer to controll bloatware updates in the future via a command and control server rather than exclusively at the Playstore, hopefully this is an unjustified fear and one day the Playstore can clamp down on this type of unwanted and non authorised Android System App behaviour and put security fears to rest.
Currently awaiting an outcome
UPDATE: The Telecommunications Industry Ombudsman has forwarded my complaint to Optus for a resolve.
My argument was that Optus sold a product and forcefully allowed a third party aplication (Hawk Super Cleaner/ antivirus) to be side loaded and included as an Android system App, which in my opinion is outside the scope of Optus being simply a supply conduit to internet services as Optus now dictates what third party app the customer of this product must use 24/7 and without a reasonable opt out.
I have also suggested that Play Protect offer the end user the option to force a single Android System App from updating and add a detection flag for Android System Apps that stuff a third party aplication and byspass the new app install agreement methods used by the Playstore, AI is needed to detect mass user bases being unfairly exploited for the means of profit at the flick of a switch.
Hopefully the 4 devices purchased are given an easy Android System App uninstall option for bloatware that advetises on this phone by default, or get side loaded onto the phone without end user authorisation and after the purchase of the product has been made.
Otherwise replacement phones of similar specs that have Android as expected and advertised on the product box, and without forced Android System App advertising will be preferred for complaint resolution.
Now awaiting complaint communications from Optus.
Hi have you tried 'rooting' the phone to control the system better and remove that type of application? I have heard it may be the only way to stop such apps when standard obvious methods fail. (You will have to Google that as I know nothing more than what I have read). I would be pleased to know how you go with that as I have thought about doing it with my own phone but I haven't had as much of a problem as you are experiencing. ([email protected])
Put a custom recovery on it if there isnt one available im more than happy to build one for it if you would like and then flash magisk root
Install es file explorer, grant system root permissions and remove the file manager completely by deleting it then replace with another stock one in which you know has nothing being forced on you,
I was in the same boat have the optus x spirit next up from smart and the amount of 3rd party applications is to be quite honest shocking in my opinion i developed a TWRP for the X spirit and did exactly what i mentioned above no problems now
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Hello just wondering if possible to build a twrp or some rom to root this mobile of mine. Thanking you chaschas
Anyone else have the issue with enabling chat features in Messages? I'm not sure if it is a carrier issue or an issue with Messages or the device? I've tried contacting my carrier and getting them to reset my RCS profile, but apparently they are having "issues" with doing this. I have read that others have had this issue and replacing the sim card has fixed it. I tried doing that yesterday to no avail. I get the attached message and then nothing ever happens. I've tried clearing cache and data for Messages, trying again, rebooting, etc. No go. This was a feature I really wanted to get enabled on this device. My carrier (Rogers) does offer RCS messaging, but this simply is not working or not provisioning with the carrier server.
Since no one ever responded here and the carrier still hasn't come up with a fix, here is what I did to enable chat features and get past that "excuse the wait..." screen:
Restarted the device
Go to settings-apps-android messages and then force stop
Launch Google Play and uninstall messages
Then go back to Google Play and install latest version again
Chat features are then enabled. Not that it's that big of a deal because if the people you are texting don't have a phone that supports RCS and even if they do, if they don't have chat features turned on, then it still won't work. It was simply bugging me because the option was there and I couldn't get it enabled.
I am with rogers and have same issue. How do you uninstall messages? It only uninstall its update. Do you root to uninstall complete messages app?
I'm also with Rogers, and this is the solution that worked for me. I found it on the Rogers Community forums.
You have to disable the app called Carrier Services, now setup RCS through the Messages app.
Then you can reenable Carrier Services.
I also rebooted, but I don't know if that's necessary. I hope this helps.
zeeshee said:
I am with rogers and have same issue. How do you uninstall messages? It only uninstall its update. Do you root to uninstall complete messages app?
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If you force stop it, you can uninstall. It may only uninstall the updates, but it does uninstall after you finally get it to force stop. I had to try force stop a couple of times.
RPAusCan said:
You have to disable the app called Carrier Services, now setup RCS through the Messages app.
Then you can reenable Carrier Services.
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I didn't have to do this portion. When I went into Messages after doing my steps, chat features were automatically enabled.
What was really funny is Rogers kept sending me emails telling me they were "working on a fix but hadn't found one yet." When I got another email yesterday stating this from them, I chatted with tech support and told them I had fixed it myself so they could stop sending me emails about them working on it. Then I get an email from them stating that "they had fixed my issue..." LOL. Sure, sure you did.
I can't honestly say this was the cause, but my issues didn't happen until I updated to the January Security Patch. I'll try these steps tonight to see if I can get them re-enabled.
TheIgster said:
Since no one ever responded here and the carrier still hasn't come up with a fix, here is what I did to enable chat features and get past that "excuse the wait..." screen:
Restarted the device
Go to settings-apps-android messages and then force stop
Launch Google Play and uninstall messages
Then go back to Google Play and install latest version again
Chat features are then enabled. Not that it's that big of a deal because if the people you are texting don't have a phone that supports RCS and even if they do, if they don't have chat features turned on, then it still won't work. It was simply bugging me because the option was there and I couldn't get it enabled.
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Does Rogers sell the Pixel 3 in their stores? I'm curious because I have purchased my Pixel 3 from Google and I'm using it on a carrier (T-Mobile) who doesn't sell the P3, but is starting to support RCS. However, their version of RCS support appears to only be enabled through a carrier supplied software update to T-Mobile branded phones. I'm afraid I'll never be able to use RCS on the ONE phone that comes with RCS support out of the box.
But if you were able to get RCS support without Rogers selling the phone, then there may still be hope for me someday!
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Does Rogers sell the Pixel 3 in their stores? I'm curious because I have purchased my Pixel 3 from Google and I'm using it on a carrier (T-Mobile) who doesn't sell the P3, but is starting to support RCS. However, their version of RCS support appears to only be enabled through a carrier supplied software update to T-Mobile branded phones. I'm afraid I'll never be able to use RCS on the ONE phone that comes with RCS support out of the box.
But if you were able to get RCS support without Rogers selling the phone, then there may still be hope for me someday!
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Yup. Both the Pixel 3 and Pixel 3 XL in their stores, online,etc.
If anyone's RCS won't work after clicking "yes, I'm in", just disable carrier services, go back to messages and opt in again. Once working, enable carrier services.
Chat features work in Messages App by Google LLC for me nearly everywhere now:
- Huawei AL10 P9 running Emui 8 Oreo on Telekom network in Hungary on WiFi (no Data subscription)
- Samsung Note 4 N910V LineageOS 16.0 Pie on Telekom network in Hungary on WiFi and Data
- Samsung Note 4 N910V LineageOS 16.0 Pie on GoogleFi roaming in Hungary on WiFi (cannot get LTE Network/Data connected to any tower)
- new device Google Pixel 2 XL Android Q on GoogleFi roaming in Hungary (will test in July)
On my home MikroTik router WiFi, where I run a domain and webserver, i forward port 80/443 to the webserver.
This is the only WiFi network, where I cannot use chat features for unknown reasons.
QUESTION: WHAT PORT(S) DOES RCS / CHAT FEATURES USE ON A WIFI NETWORK FOR COMMUNICATION TO OTHER PARTY AND THE PROVIDER SERVER (IN CASE OF FILE TRANSFER)
Google Fi support and Telekom HU Support dont understand the simple question or they resist to answer me, by replying constantly with the copy/paste of troubleshooting guides that I read all already. Either those are bot replies, or Google started to employ Level 1 people that are forced to reply automatic text. Telekom HU Support always was a big pain in the ass.
did you every figure it out?
Did you ever get this figured out? I've put my router in full DMZ and I still can't get RCS chat features to work on my home WiFi … but They USED TO WORK until a month or two ago... not sure when, It was my wife who noticed. tred 4 phones on 3 carriers, non work. many businesses have notices on the front doors too because it's killing employee's batteries while they work all day. Google refuses to answer.
ant0nwax said:
Chat features work in Messages App by Google LLC for me nearly everywhere now:
- Huawei AL10 P9 running Emui 8 Oreo on Telekom network in Hungary on WiFi (no Data subscription)
- Samsung Note 4 N910V LineageOS 16.0 Pie on Telekom network in Hungary on WiFi and Data
- Samsung Note 4 N910V LineageOS 16.0 Pie on GoogleFi roaming in Hungary on WiFi (cannot get LTE Network/Data connected to any tower)
- new device Google Pixel 2 XL Android Q on GoogleFi roaming in Hungary (will test in July)
On my home MikroTik router WiFi, where I run a domain and webserver, i forward port 80/443 to the webserver.
This is the only WiFi network, where I cannot use chat features for unknown reasons.
QUESTION: WHAT PORT(S) DOES RCS / CHAT FEATURES USE ON A WIFI NETWORK FOR COMMUNICATION TO OTHER PARTY AND THE PROVIDER SERVER (IN CASE OF FILE TRANSFER)
Google Fi support and Telekom HU Support dont understand the simple question or they resist to answer me, by replying constantly with the copy/paste of troubleshooting guides that I read all already. Either those are bot replies, or Google started to employ Level 1 people that are forced to reply automatic text. Telekom HU Support always was a big pain in the ass.
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Did you ever get this figured out? I've put my router in full DMZ and I still can't get RCS chat features to work on my home WiFi … but They USED TO WORK until a month or two ago... not sure when, It was my wife who noticed. tred 4 phones on 3 carriers, non work. many businesses have notices on the front doors too because it's killing employee's batteries while they work all day. Google refuses to answer.
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I never succeeded yet
I assume (as a RCS novice) support has no idea what RCS is and Google has support agents that have also no idea and the people who developed this left the company or got kicked out...
I also think that my webserver port 80 and 443 causes this, I will try disabling the forward cause my webserver died waiting for replacement unit
ant0nwax said:
I also think that my webserver port 80 and 443 causes this, I will try disabling the forward cause my webserver died waiting for replacement unit
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I changed the forwarding to not forward ports 80 and 443 to a dedicated IP, still did not help
the router behind my mikrotik router and its wifi is capable of getting a status Connected
the mikrotik router itself and its wifi cannot get beyond Connecting...
I wonder if that might have to do something with IPv6?
Hi. After resetting the phone to factory settings, I can not turn on the chat features, the message configures is displayed, after a few attempts the message "confirm your number" appears, after three attempts the message "limit exceeded try again tomorrow" and so on overnight trying. There is a solution to this problem?
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There is a solution to this problem?
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Hi,
Do you have Data activated during setup? Could help.
Good luck...
Sébastien.
Yes, I have, matches have been with this for a month and I even turned off the chat for 8 days as I write in google help, but it did not work. of course, cleaning the data did nothing
Bought Unlocked Pixel 3 From Google, & T-Mobile Crammed an App Onto the Phone Anyway!
How to make a customer very angry, and concerned about security...
Bought a brand-new Pixel 3 from Google, inserted my T-Mobile SIM card, (Goodbye Sony Xperia Series! Good Riddance!) and went about my business with my new Android 10 phone.
But a few days after, just today, I see a screen pop up that was pink - I asked me if I wanted to check and see if my phone was "eligible" for unlocking.
One surmises that T-Mobile noticed the new device ID associated with the same old SIM card, and downloaded the app WITHOUT PERMISSION AND WITHOUT ANY NOTICE THAT THEY WERE DOING SO. They also did not even bother to check the ID against their own inventory to determine if they had sold the phone or not, if they did, they would have seen that it was a Pixel, which they don't offer.
At no time did I visit a T-Mobile sit or download any T-Mobile related apps. They just took it upon themselves to silently install software without even asking.
So here's the punchline - what ELSE might they have installed, and how can I be sure about this?
What else might they install in the future? On whose behalf?
packetfire said:
How to make a customer very angry, and concerned about security...
Bought a brand-new Pixel 3 from Google, inserted my T-Mobile SIM card, (Goodbye Sony Xperia Series! Good Riddance!) and went about my business with my new Android 10 phone.
But a few days after, just today, I see a screen pop up that was pink - I asked me if I wanted to check and see if my phone was "eligible" for unlocking.
One surmises that T-Mobile noticed the new device ID associated with the same old SIM card, and downloaded the app WITHOUT PERMISSION AND WITHOUT ANY NOTICE THAT THEY WERE DOING SO. They also did not even bother to check the ID against their own inventory to determine if they had sold the phone or not, if they did, they would have seen that it was a Pixel, which they don't offer.
At no time did I visit a T-Mobile sit or download any T-Mobile related apps. They just took it upon themselves to silently install software without even asking.
So here's the punchline - what ELSE might they have installed, and how can I be sure about this?
What else might they install in the future? On whose behalf?
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I noticed the same thing on my pixel 3 xl and I'm on Google Fi and I can't uninstall that app to unlock my phone, I can only disable the app
lavin40 said:
I noticed the same thing on my pixel 3 xl and I'm on Google Fi and I can't uninstall that app to unlock my phone, I can only disable the app
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What's worse is that the app itself claims that you CAN remove the app, after it has (correctly) determined that the phone is not locked.
Is your app also a "T-Mobile" app with a pink icon, or is it a variant that is branded for the Google FI service?
packetfire said:
What's worse is that the app itself claims that you CAN remove the app, after it has (correctly) determined that the phone is not locked.
Is your app also a "T-Mobile" app with a pink icon, or is it a variant that is branded for the Google FI service?
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The app is pink I believe I got a Verizon pixel 3 xl cause the OEM unlock option is greyed out so I can't even root the phone
During the initial setup, there is a "sneaky" screen that asks if you want to finish (or something, I forgot). But if you expand that screen, there are several apps that Google intends to install, and you can opt out right there. Duo is definitely one of the apps, and several T-Mobile apps (I'm on TMO) as well as some others. I opted out and don't have any TMO apps.
Just like the above comment, it's in your 'additional-apps' section of the initial setup. If you uncheck? It doesn't install.
jbarcus81 said:
Just like the above comment, it's in your 'additional-apps' section of the initial setup. If you uncheck? It doesn't install.
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Yep. This. If the app(s) are installed it's because you let the setup install them. They (Google/T-Mobile) didn't install them on the phone without your consent. You just missed where you have the option to not install them.
ktmom said:
During the initial setup, there is a "sneaky" screen that asks if you want to finish (or something, I forgot). But if you expand that screen, there are several apps that Google intends to install, and you can opt out right there. Duo is definitely one of the apps, and several T-Mobile apps (I'm on TMO) as well as some others. I opted out and don't have any TMO apps.
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Well, that must be how it was done - anyway, the app is gone now, all by itself, so it appears to be yes, an undetectable silent install of an undelete-able "system app", but it seems that once you are verified as "unlocked", it self-deletes.
But I got nothing but the "unlocker", no Duo installed for me. (I like Google Authenticator - 2FA without anything else to carry, and SIM-swap-proof).
So this was the paternalistic Google trying to be helpful, but creeping people out yet again with their presumptuousness.
packetfire said:
Well, that must be how it was done - anyway, the app is gone now, all by itself, so it appears to be yes, an undetectable silent install of an undelete-able "system app", but it seems that once you are verified as "unlocked", it self-deletes.
But I got nothing but the "unlocker", no Duo installed for me. (I like Google Authenticator - 2FA without anything else to carry, and SIM-swap-proof).
So this was the paternalistic Google trying to be helpful, but creeping people out yet again with their presumptuousness.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tmobile.pr.mytmobile
Tmobile silently installed this app on my unlocked pixel 3xl from best buy just yesterday after I set up my playstore account!
As a User app though.
packetfire said:
How to make a customer very angry, and concerned about security...
Bought a brand-new Pixel 3 from Google, inserted my T-Mobile SIM card, (Goodbye Sony Xperia Series! Good Riddance!) and went about my business with my new Android 10 phone.
But a few days after, just today, I see a screen pop up that was pink - I asked me if I wanted to check and see if my phone was "eligible" for unlocking.
One surmises that T-Mobile noticed the new device ID associated with the same old SIM card, and downloaded the app WITHOUT PERMISSION AND WITHOUT ANY NOTICE THAT THEY WERE DOING SO. They also did not even bother to check the ID against their own inventory to determine if they had sold the phone or not, if they did, they would have seen that it was a Pixel, which they don't offer.
At no time did I visit a T-Mobile sit or download any T-Mobile related apps. They just took it upon themselves to silently install software without even asking.
So here's the punchline - what ELSE might they have installed, and how can I be sure about this?
What else might they install in the future? On whose behalf?
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Just to show that it was indeed installed to the device...
dirtyreturn said:
Just to show that it was indeed installed to the device...
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As stated in this thread, you accepted the install of the T-Mobile app during the setup process.
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As stated in this thread, you accepted the install of the T-Mobile app during the setup process.
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That's just exclusive to the pixel 3? Stock Rom?
Just wondering since it's a first that this happened for me. Being on the same carrier with previous phones this did not happen.
dirtyreturn said:
That's just exclusive to the pixel 3? Stock Rom?
Just wondering since it's a first that this happened for me. Being on the same carrier with previous phones this did not happen.
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I think I had to disable TMO apps during setup on my PH-1. I'm sure that Google has agreements with the carriers who offer the device. Even (esp?) when the device comes straight from Google.
And yes, stock ROM.
Longtime Pixel user here...first Samsung phone. Bought the unlocked Z Fold 3, was told it worked with Google Fi...it does, however I don't believe I've been on any other network than T-Mobile. I'd like to be able to force switch carriers or even have the phone switch carriers when necessary...any Samsung tricks I am not aware of here?
Get the app FiSwitch (or similar) there are many on the play store.
I have tried a few.. none allow for carriers switching. Looks like there are some permissions missing
Tiring to sync to other programs but not having much luck yet. Not to the watch either, have to use Samsung Health.
I recently switched cell phone providers from T-Mobile to Verizon. The next day, I noticed a ton of crappy apps, mostly dumb games, were installed on my phone, a Samsung Galaxy S22, which I originally bought directly from T-Mobile.
As I already have a lot of problems with bloatware, I uninstalled these apps, and want to ensure that Verizon doesn't install anything else without permission. The idea of a big creepy corporation installing unknown things on my cell phone is unnerving.
My phone's not jailbroken. However, a lot of guides suggest uninstalling the app called "Verizon App Manager", but I didn't even have an app called "Verizon App Manager", just "Verizon Services". Then I uninstalled all the app's updates, and viola, its name reverted to "Verizon App Manager". However, the app can't be uninstalled.
I removed all of its permissions, but as Verizon was able to install this app without permission, I doubt how long that will work.
Is there anything else I can do, or do I just have to live with Verizon reprogramming my phone all the time? Even if I rooted my phone, what could I do?
I've noticed this too. Data wipe on my Pixel 5 somehow includes a bunch of Verizon apps when I restore apps from Play Store. I have a feeling this has more to do with Google than with Verizon...