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I am waiting to get my T-Mobile US TP2.
For those of you that already have a TP2, non-T-Mobile US, can you say if the camera has a "pre-focus" capability as on most digital cameras?
I am looking to see if you can press the button to take a picture but only set the focus and the press the button to really take the picture.
press it anywhere on the screen to get the focus...., well kind a like that...or you could just watch the video here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTszfJJLimU
gunggu said:
press it anywhere on the screen to get the focus...., well kind a like that...or you could just watch the video here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTszfJJLimU
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From my readings of the manual, that look/sounds like touch focus where you are touching the screen to select a different location to focus on, which sounds link a nice feature.
The question I have is, when you touch the screen for touch focus, does it actually initiate the auto focus at that time or do you still have to press the shutter button/icon to initiate the focus and then immediately take the picture?
On most digital cameras today, you can press the shutter button half way to focus and press fully to actually take the picture. I was hoping the TP2 also had something like this.
well, u can also see in the video that it doesnt work like that, so when u push the soft camera button, it will automatically focus and shot it...sorry mate
mmeyer4663 said:
From my readings of the manual, that look/sounds like touch focus where you are touching the screen to select a different location to focus on, which sounds link a nice feature.
The question I have is, when you touch the screen for touch focus, does it actually initiate the auto focus at that time or do you still have to press the shutter button/icon to initiate the focus and then immediately take the picture?
On most digital cameras today, you can press the shutter button half way to focus and press fully to actually take the picture. I was hoping the TP2 also had something like this.
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It does on mine. when i touch an area of the screen which isnt a button, it shows the focal area changes and focusses on it. So, you can focus on something which isnt in the middle of your shot etc. I cant find anything like a focus lock though...so you cant focus on something, move the phone and then take a shot with the same focus set-it'll re-meter everything.
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mad_tunes said:
It does on mine. when i touch an area of the screen which isnt a button, it shows the focal area changes and focusses on it. So, you can focus on something which isnt in the middle of your shot etc. I cant find anything like a focus lock though...so you cant focus on something, move the phone and then take a shot with the same focus set-it'll re-meter everything.
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That's a good thing.
With the way you have described touch focus, you CAN pre focus and then when ready, hit the shutter icon to take the picture without the additional delay of auto focus when you press the shutter icon! Good!
Thanks!
UPDATE: From the TMO TP2 manual:
To use Touch Focus:
1. Set the Camera to Photo or Contacts Picture mode.
2. Touch the area on the screen that you want to focus. The Touch Focus indicator ( ) positions itself on the selected area.
Note If you tap outside the effective focus area, a white box appears to indicate the area where you can use Touch Focus.
3. Touch (Shutter ICON here) to activate auto-focus on the selected area and take the photo. See “Auto-focus” in this chapter for more information.
This implies that the touch focus only let's you designate where to focus. When you touch the shutter ICON, it still initiates the auto focus function and then takes the picture.
mmeyer4663 said:
This implies that the touch focus only let's you designate where to focus. When you touch the shutter ICON, it still initiates the auto focus function and then takes the picture.
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Spot on - it'll remember where you've told it to focus, but when you press the shutter button it'll re-focus
mad_tunes said:
Spot on - it'll remember where you've told it to focus, but when you press the shutter button it'll re-focus
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Just verified the international version of the TP2 has exactly the same language in the manual.
......would be very helpful
Is there anyway to achieve this? Tab once to focus the lens then tap a second time to actually take the pic. I think the TP1 could do this, right? This would be a great feature/tweak.
I'd also like a way to tell the camera to focus and then to take a picture.
The default of press here and I'll take a picture in 1-3 seconds is crap!
gunggu said:
well, u can also see in the video that it doesnt work like that, so when u push the soft camera button, it will automatically focus and shot it...sorry mate
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That's exactly the case
I can't seem to get a handle on when or why WP7 err my Samsung Focus will take a picture and then choose to auto rotate it. Can anyone explain to me how to avoid it from doing that (not holding camera a certain way, software, etc)?
I am holding the camera in Landscape mode with the Shutter button on the top but it still decides to auo rotate some of my pics.
Thanks to anyone who can help me understand this feature.
This scenario is pretty funny to me as Windows Live Photo Gallery also tries to rotate the pictures, lol.
Anyone who can explain to me how or why, even if I am missing something basic like Settings, let me know.
As of right now, there is no option to turn off auto-rotation.
My understanding is that the phone will rotate the photo accordingly based on how you hold it the phone (as it should). I've had my photo rotated the wrong way a couple times, and I realized that it was because I was holding the phone a bit diagonally and not really either horizontally or vertically. I now try to make sure that I hold it definitively either horizontally or vertically, that's really the only way to do it until an option becomes available.
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As of right now, there is no option to turn off auto-rotation.
My understanding is that the phone will rotate the photo accordingly based on how you hold it the phone (as it should). I've had my photo rotated the wrong way a couple times, and I realized that it was because I was holding the phone a bit diagonally and not really either horizontally or vertically. I now try to make sure that I hold it definitively either horizontally or vertically, that's really the only way to do it until an option becomes available.
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Bingo. I haven't had any issues with this, but I imagine if I were trying to get creative in how I held the camera, it would then become an issue. Either way, the photos I take either go to my computer or facebook, both of which it only requires a single button click to fix the rotation, if it were to ever be a problem.
Thresher said:
I can't seem to get a handle on when or why WP7 err my Samsung Focus will take a picture and then choose to auto rotate it. Can anyone explain to me how to avoid it from doing that (not holding camera a certain way, software, etc)?
I am holding the camera in Landscape mode with the Shutter button on the top but it still decides to auo rotate some of my pics.
Thanks to anyone who can help me understand this feature.
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I understand what you're going through because the same thing happened to me when I tried to take pictures to study for my exam. I also have a focus and was holding it the same way as you with the shutter buton on top. I finally realized that if you had anti-shake turned on for some reason, it will change the orientation of the picture by itself. If you turn on anti-shake turned on, try turning it off. It worked for me.
I just recently upgraded my Samsung Focus to the latest beta 7712 - everything seems to work fine except for the Camera - it doesn't seem to focus anymore when I hold down the shutter button halfway. Focus also doesn't work for the Bing Vision for example, it just shows a blurry image no matter what.
Anyone else have this problem or suggestions on how to fix it?
Thanks!
Working fine here on HTC HD7.
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Working fine on my LG Quantum.
working here just normally on a omnia7
Works on v1.3 Samsung Focus on 7712.
Although I do randomly have trouble focusing on things, but it seems to be limited to reflective or steep angled surfaces. Otherwise it focuses just fine.
What hardware revision and did you have issues on mango beta 1?
Have you tried pressing on the screen to take a photo (It'll focus then take) instead of pressing the button. Not a fix but you might have to do it until we get Official Mango.
Sounds ironic how the Focus won't focus anymore xD
Try resetting camera settings, or a factory reset with 7712.
Same experience on both builds of mango. I have to press the camera button 1/2 way and wait for it to focus before pressing completely.
Small price to pay...
Camera is functioning as designed and focuses without lag and stays locked, however, pressing further to trigger the shutter is diffacult and I end up with a blurry pic. Also, I wish the search button would lock out. Its not needed in camera mode. I always hit it by accident sending me to Bing.
Had the same problem on the first release of Mango. Seems to have gotten better on Mango release 2. Having some other issues, however.
I have the Focus v1.3 - before 7712 I had limited trouble focusing, but it worked well for the most part, similar to Scrtcwlvl. Now the camera will not focus at all, as in every shot is blurry =\ I had mango beta 2 installed before this, and oddly enough did not have this problem.
Its late now, but will try in the morning to do the screen tap focus and reset camera settings, and hard reset perhaps if that fails.
N!njaDuck said:
Same experience on both builds of mango. I have to press the camera button 1/2 way and wait for it to focus before pressing completely.
Small price to pay...
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That's how it's designed to work.
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Camera is functioning as designed
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Not at all, the flashlight is buggy now
Tried doing tap to focus, also resetting the camera settings, no dice =(
If I'm feeling in a curious mood I'll try the hard reset, otherwise I might just live without the camera till RTM rolls around.
Thanks for all the suggestions everyone
Actually, I've noticed some interesting behavior since upgrading from 7392 to 7712 -- on my LG Optimus 7.
+ Can save the camera settings now. Awesome!
+ Able to turn off the shutter sound
+ Putting the phone on "vibrate" also turns off the shutter sound, which is what it should've been all along
+ Can force it to take pictures more quickly (rather than a long focus time)
+ Able to rotate the screen in "camera roll" mode when viewing pictures I've already taken. Couldn't do this before -- only when viewing from the Pictures hub.
- Seems to take blurry pictures more often when using the physical camera button, but less blurry when using the screen to snap the photo. Strange.
- Can't seem to get "tap to focus" to function on my phone, even if I turn off the "tap screen to take photo" option
Just some reports worth noting. All in all, I *love* the 7712 Mango build
do you think m$ will improve video capture from 25 to 30 fps at 720p ?
I have the same issue on 7712 on an AT&T Samsung Focus. (which makes having a "focus" issue on the Focus very difficult for searching in the forums...)
Both of the Mango preview builds had the same problem for me.
Holding the shutter button down half-way sometimes takes a LONG time for the focus target box (the white lines) to appear and the actual focusing routine to begin. Once the auto-focusing has begun, I see the image go from blurry to clear as it auto-focuses, but then, maddeningly, it continues "auto-focusing" past the in-focus image and settles on a blurry image.
I know "a long time for the focus box to appear" is subjective, but it's noticeably delayed compared to NoDo. In very informal testing, it's taken up to 8 seconds for the auto-focus target box to even appear (sometimes it's quicker than that, but, worse, sometimes it's never come up). BUT, once the actual auto-focusing has begun, I will see the image go from out-of-focus to in-focus, then settle on out-of-focus as it thinks it's found me the optimal focus condition for the picture.
My sort of solution... instead of using the shutter button, I touch and hold on the screen which brings up the focus box, then as the focusing routine starts, as soon as the image is in focus, I release my finger from the screen. This ninja-like quickness usually catches the image while it's still in-focus. If I press and hold the screen indefinitely, it will behave just like detailed above, where it goes from out-of-focus, to in-focus, then out-of-focus, but I guess because of how the "screen is touched" mode works, it takes the picture once I've been touching the screen for 3 seconds, regardless of focus.
I think the trick to lifting off of the screen while the image is still in focus can be duplicated with the shutter button (when the image is in focus, jam the button down from the half-detent to the full-detent before it can go back out-of-focus), but I found that urgently pressing the shutter button fully-down is a good way to move the phone during the exposure, which usually ruins the picture.
I've found that the finger-on-screen method will reliably bring up the focus box/auto-focus routine, while the half-detent on the physical button does not always get the focus box to show up. I've tried pressing the button to the half-detent from lots of different angles and directions, but without finding any type of pressure correlating with success or failure. This issue never appeared on NoDo or pre-NoDo (only on the Mango previews), though I do recognize that the phone is mechanically older now than when I was I got it in November. BUT, combined with the auto-focus silliness, I'm not thinking it's a button issue.
ahaha your Focus can't focus!
I always take photos of my kids playing, but i noticed a big problem with the G4 camera that any moving object looks blurred in the photos even if the movment is slow (eg. Turning heads etc.).
I did not have this problem with my previous Galaxy S5.
Anybody noticed this problem?
Someone mentioned that the camera seems to want to use slow shutter speeds and low ISO values, when left in Auto mode.
As Auto does not provide any adjustments at all, you'd either have to use Manual mode, or try another camera app that allows a little more control. Something to force the camera to use a higher ISO setting, and a faster shutter speed, which would help reduce blurring of moving objects.
Of course, this assumes you are in a well-lit area. If you're indoors, in a moderately-lit area, then you are going to have more trouble regardless.
Manually turn on the flash, that might help. You can toggle the flash mode even if the camera is in auto.
I have kids too and sometimes my pics of them come out blurry too...this is outdoors with a ton of light. These out of focus shots are not a shutter speed thing but more of an auto focus problem.
The camera always wants to re-grab focus whenever you take a picture when the subject is moving. My kids will be in the frame, in focus (green squares on screen to confirm) I push the camera button, then the damn software tries and refocus because my kids are running around, the auto focus pics the wrong focal point and then the shutter snaps...out of focus pic.
I too came from the S5 which had better software. On that phone, if I turned off burst shot, pushing and holding down the camera button would cause the camera to focus on the subject and lock it in, then when I released my finger, it would take an almost instantaneous picture and keep focus... end result always sharp pics of my kids even when running (as long as there was lots of light).
If G4 could have that feature, all would be perfect!
Ah, in that case, maybe try touching the screen to cause the camera to focus on the spot you touched. But, instead of touching the spot where your moving kids are, try touching a non-moving spot on the ground near them, but at the same focal distance. That way, your kids will also be in focus. If that still doesn't work, then maybe switch to manual mode to hold the focus manually.
I have noticed that when I take a selfie, and then click on it to view it, it displays normally for a second, but then auto-blurs the selfie. I don't actually like that- I'd rather see the real image, not a beauty-filtered one. How can I turn off whatever mechanism is doing this?
Are you talking about the blur/bokeh in portrait mode or face retouching? Portrait mode will blue the background while keeping the subject in focus. There is also an icon on the top left corner of the camera that looks like a face with a star on it which adjusts face retouching. Options are off, natural or soft. This is on both camera and portrait mode.
Additionally for photos you've already taken in portrait, when viewing them in the camera roll there are two copies of the image and you can toggle the bokeh/blur on and off.