NOTE 10+ unflashable efter update? - Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers

Hi all!
Got me a N975f (d2s), Note 10+ that is. Used, but in really good condition. 512GB. Not cheap, but reasonably priced. It seems unlocked also, but i have to admit that i couldn't really say even if it was not. But the CSC is NEE, nordic carriers, and that usually means unlocked.
The phone has not been used for a while and was stuck at Android 10 or so. From what i know it was untouched flashing-wise. So i started with updating firmware and got it up to the latest A12 version, NEE. I thought i would then start with flashing TWRP first. Tried the method via Odin. TWRP version 3.7.0_9-0 from the TWRP site that the dev linked to. Odin version 3.14.4. Bootloader unlocked according to the first part of the instructions. I put the twrp-tar and the vbmeta-tar in their places (AP and CP in Odin respectively). The computer has been used for similar operations with Odin, altho perhaps not in a while. Odin recognizes the device and the proper 'added' message shows.
What happens when I press 'Start' is... pretty much nothing.. Odin shows message 'analyzing file' without anything else happening regardless of how long i wait. Eventually i have to press volume down and power button to restart. I tried different cables, USB-ports, Odin versions and even different computers, both previously used for flashing. I remember also fiddling with Heimdal but i am not so familiar with it so i was afraid i would break something.
I am not a developer but i have flashed quite a few devices through the years, and I don't remember getting this kind of result ever. I contacted the developer of the TWRP and he scratched his head too.
Recently i bumped into this thread, diferent device, but basically saying that updates after certain date around late januari could render that device (T290) practically unflashable.
[ROM][OFFICIAL][13] LineageOS 20.0 for the SM-T290 (gtowifi)
WARNING: Samsung rolled out a new firmware update starting roughly at the end of January 2023. This contains bootloader version 4. From what we understand with SM-T295 bootloaders, this may or may not permanently lock you out from ever flashing...
forum.xda-developers.com
I did my updating of the Note 10+ around that time also, perhaps even february.
So now i am wondering if anything of that kind might have happened with this phone also. I am considering buying another, but they're not so cheap and I don't want to risk ending up in the same situation with another one.
Has anyone heard or experienced something similar with this phone? Is there anything else that could be done?
I would be very grateful for any answer that would point me in the right direction.
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I would leave it on Android 10, good as it gets.
I prefer Pie but 10 is better than 11 or 12.
I have 2 N10+'s, one running on 9, the other 10. Neither will be upgraded! They run very well as is and security is no issue at all unless you do stupid things.

blackhawk said:
I would leave it on Android 10, good as it gets.
I prefer Pie but 10 is better than 11 or 12.
I have 2 N10+'s, one running on 9, the other 10. Neither will be upgraded! They run very well as is and security is no issue at all unless you do stupid things.
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I am sorry but I fail at seeing exactly how your post is helping me...

Update:
Still nothing. I did manage to, using Odin, flash a bit older firmware. Same Android version (A12) but from previous year, in hope that it would change something. It didn't, the phone is still not cooperative when it comes to flashing any custom binary. I flashed back to the latest firmware, nada.
In the process of trial and error I did notice that the phone refuses to switch over controll over USB-port in the USB pulldown menu, while connected to computer. Found a thread on the forum with seemingly one person in the whole world that had the same problem. Nothing there helped.
So, long story short, the phone is flashable with stock rom, but using the same gear gets nothing. Bought a new 20€ USB-cable anyway, no difference.
I consider myself not being stubborn. So i bought another Note 10+, but cheaper and with broken screen, just to see what happens. The phone is almost identical firmware-wise, and when i got it it had been updated to the second most recent firmware, and it's from this year. Same friggin' result!
WHAT THE FRICK IS GOING ON??!!

SOLUTION:
Finally... Posting this in case other people run into the same problem.
I had tried several newest versions of TWRP with the same result. But everything else seemed to work. Even if I flashed only vbmeta, it went. So I figured that it must be something with the TWRP itself that the phone is not excepting. Kept trying and eventually found that the TWRP version 3.6.2_9-1 works. Didn't try more.

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No OS will install properly, odin won't work, need help with TWRP on N5110

This is my first post, so please forgive any mistakes I make with a post.
My wife's Galaxy Note 8.0 tablet was being stupid, it would refuse to properly use the internet from our Asus router, would connect but apps would insist there was no connection. Was getting tired of that crap so I decided to install a custom ROM, since samsung can be kind of jackasses abandoning most their devices after one major update, was only running Kitkat for crying out loud. I had done so before, but issues arouse. For one, I had great difficulty finding a proper TWRP for some stupid reason, NO ONE seamed to know where to get a well working version. I found one, but it messed everything up, it seems to work just fine but any ROM I install has massive issues with the Google apps, they crash eternally and continuously so I can do literally nothing, can't even get past first setup. I came across talk that it was old TWRP to blame, that it has issues with newer OS's like the lollipop I was trying to install, and FINALLY managed to find a newer version of TWRP, but freaking Odin keeps hanging on it's install, gets to "Nand write start" then stops doing anything. I have tried different cables as well as different computers, does jack crap so far to help. My backup I made in TWRP doesn't even work, when I restore the result is nothing but a boot loop. I am trying to find a stock os to restore it to (mostly) original condition, but it is absurdly difficult for some stupid reason to find, found one all in one exe that didn't work for a damn. I was hoping there might even be a way to install the newer TWRP from with TWRP itself. Can anyone help me with any part of this?
First things first. Calm down.
Do you have Samsung Smart Switch installed on your pc? If not, do so.
Connect your note 8.0 to your pc, select the 'more' button and then Emergency software recovery and initialization. Let that run is course. It can take a while.
See if that helps.
kge420 said:
First things first. Calm down.
Do you have Samsung Smart Switch installed on your pc? If not, do so.
Connect your note 8.0 to your pc, select the 'more' button and then Emergency software recovery and initialization. Let that run is course. It can take a while.
See if that helps.
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Sorry, but you are going to have to be a little more specific. I installed Switch, but connecting an off device obviously does nothing, should I install and let it boot into a broken ROM again, where gapps crashes, and connect it then?
If your main isues are with GApps try clearing the cache in the play store app, check the date and time on your device.
I literally just got my Note 8 up and running after suffering these same issues you describe. My thread on this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8-0/help/note-8-0-stuck-screen-t3218608
I'll try my best to help you. I received some good advice and I 'd like to help someone as a show of appreciation.
We'll get this straight!
Thanks, pretty much.
kge420 said:
If your main isues are with GApps try clearing the cache in the play store app, check the date and time on your device.
I literally just got my Note 8 up and running after suffering these same issues you describe. My thread on this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8-0/help/note-8-0-stuck-screen-t3218608
I'll try my best to help you. I received some good advice and I 'd like to help someone as a show of appreciation.
We'll get this straight!
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None of what you said really made sense, I could not get to ANYTHING AT ALL that was not Odin or TWRP. But that link you had gave me the name for the stock os, I searched that and flashed it and now everything is great. So thanks, sort of. You even mentioned that method not working for you I think in that thread, but it did for me, so yeah.
All good then.

First time messing with my phone, and it looks super soft bricked.

Hello, first timer here. I have never tried rooting or anything, but today I finally decided to... and messed it up.
Verizon Samsung Note 2 SCH-i605 (yes, still.)
Got it on July 2nd, 2013, so I believe it was build 4.1.1 kernel 3.1? Not too sure on the legalities
Completely unrooted and unmodded
I was using kingo root and everything was fine until it hit about 52% on the rooting process when my computer lost connection with my phone. Since, it gave me the "Firmware upgrade encountered an issue" problem. So then I google-fu'd and followed directions of:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2040264
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2120726
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2582290
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2024207
etc.
and used Odin 3.10.7 (and 3.10.0 just in case, both on and off admin mode cause why not) on every single md5 available in all those links and the one from sammobile.com for sch-i605.
And each time, I would either received failure on "sboot.bin" or receive the "System Software Not Authorized" error if succeeded (it was stuck in bootload? too, kept flashing the logo then the error message). The VERY first time, however, it actually brought me to that page where I'm allowed to press things like erase cache, factory reset, or reboot my phone. There, I chose all those options in the order I've listed them. And ever since I haven't seen that screen again.
My issue seems to be every problem I can find put together, and can't seem to resolve it with my skills alone. I honestly don't care about recovering my data (which I believe is impossible now anyway) or rooting my phone. I just want it to turn on again.
Thanks in advance.
p.s. getting a new phone isn't an option currently
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Checked my verizon wireless software upgrade assistant for some info, and it says "Up to date" and "Version ND3" if that means anything to you pros out there.
jk1982 said:
Hello, first timer here. I have never tried rooting or anything, but today I finally decided to... and messed it up.
Verizon Samsung Note 2 SCH-i605 (yes, still.)
Got it on July 2nd, 2013, so I believe it was build 4.1.1 kernel 3.1? Not too sure on the legalities
Completely unrooted and unmodded
I was using kingo root and everything was fine until it hit about 52% on the rooting process when my computer lost connection with my phone. Since, it gave me the "Firmware upgrade encountered an issue" problem. So then I google-fu'd and followed directions of:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2040264
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2120726
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2582290
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2024207
etc.
and used Odin 3.10.7 (and 3.10.0 just in case, both on and off admin mode cause why not) on every single md5 available in all those links and the one from sammobile.com for sch-i605.
And each time, I would either received failure on "sboot.bin" or receive the "System Software Not Authorized" error if succeeded (it was stuck in bootload? too, kept flashing the logo then the error message). The VERY first time, however, it actually brought me to that page where I'm allowed to press things like erase cache, factory reset, or reboot my phone. There, I chose all those options in the order I've listed them. And ever since I haven't seen that screen again.
My issue seems to be every problem I can find put together, and can't seem to resolve it with my skills alone. I honestly don't care about recovering my data (which I believe is impossible now anyway) or rooting my phone. I just want it to turn on again.
Thanks in advance.
p.s. getting a new phone isn't an option currently
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Checked my verizon wireless software upgrade assistant for some info, and it says "Up to date" and "Version ND3" if that means anything to you pros out there.
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Greetings,
Thank you for using XDA Assist. To get you the best possible assistance, I'm going to move this thread to your device's Q&A forum. Good luck!
install kies and try flashing rom. do you have rom from i.e. sammobile? use different odin versions and do not mark repartition
yaro666 said:
install kies and try flashing rom. do you have rom from i.e. sammobile? use different odin versions and do not mark repartition
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KIES is unable to read my phone (tried the bottom 3 versions of it), and I've tried running Odin 3.07 and unchecked repartition for every stock and restore md5s I had for my phone... the ones that didn't fail sboot.bin are still giving me unauthorized error.
I'll keep trying all the combinations, but it seems moot at this point.

This is Probably A Long Shot...(AT&T SGH-I467)

I've tried searching around here for an answer, but I haven't really been able to find anything solid regarding the issue that I'm experiencing. The other day I popped my sim card into my sgh-i467, as I do from time to time, to check for any OTA updates. This device is usually mounted in my vehicle, so I don't regularly check for updates. Sure enough, an OTA update was available. Tablet was at maximum charge, so I went ahead and chose to do the update. Unfortunately, the update failed at around 93% and went into a boot loop. There was nothing crucial on the device, so I figured it'd be no big deal to just re-flash the firmware if need be. However, I can only seem to find a KIES image for 4.1.2, and while I didn't think to verify exactly what version I was on before the bootloop/brick, I'm fairly certain I was on 4.2.xx.
From what I understand, the bootloader updates with 4.4, correct? With the bootloader getting updated, downgrading to 4.1.2 isn't possible or feasible, right? I didn't think to confirm this before I attempted to flash the KIES image for 4.1.2 via odin (kies never seems to actually see my device), which fails every attempt. I was originally able to get into recovery, but I kept seeing that /system wasn't found. I'm assuming that the OTA update partially installed, before failing, and either corrupted the partition scheme or updated the bootloader but not the system?
I'm dead in the water at this point, and AT&T is obviously no help. Plus, I don't the device on contract with them anyway, so I'm starting to think that my only option is to contact Samsung. However, I really don't want to have to send the unit in, and given it's age, I don't think it's worth investing anything in it if the repair isn't covered somehow. Plus I enjoy tinkering, I'm not new to the scene, and I'd really like to come up with a solution that doesn't require Samsung.
I don't suppose any kind people out there have any suggestions, similar experiences, etc. do they? I'd really like to hear from anyone who's got something to offer! Thanks in advance for your help!
pbrady5 said:
I've tried searching around here for an answer, but I haven't really been able to find anything solid regarding the issue that I'm experiencing. The other day I popped my sim card into my sgh-i467, as I do from time to time, to check for any OTA updates. This device is usually mounted in my vehicle, so I don't regularly check for updates. Sure enough, an OTA update was available. Tablet was at maximum charge, so I went ahead and chose to do the update. Unfortunately, the update failed at around 93% and went into a boot loop. There was nothing crucial on the device, so I figured it'd be no big deal to just re-flash the firmware if need be. However, I can only seem to find a KIES image for 4.1.2, and while I didn't think to verify exactly what version I was on before the bootloop/brick, I'm fairly certain I was on 4.2.xx.
From what I understand, the bootloader updates with 4.4, correct? With the bootloader getting updated, downgrading to 4.1.2 isn't possible or feasible, right? I didn't think to confirm this before I attempted to flash the KIES image for 4.1.2 via odin (kies never seems to actually see my device), which fails every attempt. I was originally able to get into recovery, but I kept seeing that /system wasn't found. I'm assuming that the OTA update partially installed, before failing, and either corrupted the partition scheme or updated the bootloader but not the system?
I'm dead in the water at this point, and AT&T is obviously no help. Plus, I don't the device on contract with them anyway, so I'm starting to think that my only option is to contact Samsung. However, I really don't want to have to send the unit in, and given it's age, I don't think it's worth investing anything in it if the repair isn't covered somehow. Plus I enjoy tinkering, I'm not new to the scene, and I'd really like to come up with a solution that doesn't require Samsung.
I don't suppose any kind people out there have any suggestions, similar experiences, etc. do they? I'd really like to hear from anyone who's got something to offer! Thanks in advance for your help!
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You need to upgrade to keis 3.0 and reboot, then start kies, then boot note into download mode and have kies detect and reload the update.
Too bad you let the Note update to Kit Kat, Jellybean is better, on the LTE Note.
gooberdude said:
You need to upgrade to keis 3.0 and reboot, then start kies, then boot note into download mode and have kies detect and reload the update.
Too bad you let the Note update to Kit Kat, Jellybean is better, on the LTE Note.
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Thank you very much for the information! Unfortunately, I've tried Kies 3.0. It notifies me that my device isn't compatible with Kies 3.0. With the other version of Kies, 2.6 maybe(?), it never ends up being able to connect. I've tried manual initialization, but when after I enter my model number, it won't accept my serial.
Take it to a BEST BUY with a Samsung Experience Center (Kiosk (Most all of them in larger cities have them) and they will fix your SGH-i467 for free. I did almost the same exact thing as you (trying to solve a EFS problem) and was stuck. I have posted about it on here before. They will not charge you BUT you may run into a clueless rep now and then. If you do, ask them to call for help and they will get you fixed up in a hurry. Hope this helps.

Phone stuck in "Download mode" after official Pie OTA update!

Hey good people.
Yesterday i was excited to see the notification for Pie update come up, so i quickly installed it on the phone. It finished, then asked me to reboot, so i did. But for some reason, the phone couldn't reboot properly, and ended up getting stuck in download mode.
Tried to get out of it using every combination, nothing worked. Then i decided, well, lets reinstall the firmware on it. If i could find any! Majority of links are misleading, don't work, yandex disk links didnt let me download anything. Tried like 3 different versions of OST, none of them worked, not even the patched one, not to mention the lack of firmware in the first place.
The only step forward i could make is getting the phone to show up in device manager, because it hasnt even showed up before.
i've never even fiddled with the device's software or anything, everything was 100% stock and untouched.
i'm seriously disappointed in nokia, already contacted the reseller who yet has to reply (i don't have much hope for that either).
Any kinda help would be highly appreciated.
gabika1941 said:
Hey good people.
Yesterday i was excited to see the notification for Pie update come up, so i quickly installed it on the phone. It finished, then asked me to reboot, so i did. But for some reason, the phone couldn't reboot properly, and ended up getting stuck in download mode.
Tried to get out of it using every combination, nothing worked. Then i decided, well, lets reinstall the firmware on it. If i could find any! Majority of links are misleading, don't work, yandex disk links didnt let me download anything. Tried like 3 different versions of OST, none of them worked, not even the patched one, not to mention the lack of firmware in the first place.
The only step forward i could make is getting the phone to show up in device manager, because it hasnt even showed up before.
i've never even fiddled with the device's software or anything, everything was 100% stock and untouched.
i'm seriously disappointed in nokia, already contacted the reseller who yet has to reply (i don't have much hope for that either).
Any kinda help would be highly appreciated.
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Which type and do You have a screenshot from the startscreen.
Maybe this helps
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EricH7001 said:
Which type and do You have a screenshot from the startscreen.
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i honestly have no idea about the type, but i have screenshot
actually, no matter what i pressed in what order or battery percentage, it just said "download mode", and i also couldnt even turn the phone off either.
tbh i've contacted the reseller since then, and we'll probably just send it back in the next few days
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i honestly have no idea about the type, but i have screenshot
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Don't you have the retail box? The type should be written on it. Also, do you have the ZEISS logo on the camera? If not, then you most likely have the TA-1054 variant, which is for the Chinese market.
intervall said:
Don't you have the retail box? The type should be written on it. Also, do you have the ZEISS logo on the camera? If not, then you most likely have the TA-1054 variant, which is for the Chinese market.
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it must be the Chinese then, because it doesn't have Zeiss or android one logo on it.
But actually, is that very significant?
gabika1941 said:
it must be the Chinese then, because it doesn't have Zeiss or android one logo on it.
But actually, is that very significant?
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Well, I cannot be 100% sure. But I would assume that if your phone was running a ported version of the global ROM and not the official Chinese firmware and it somehow got an OTA update then because of the differences in how the phone's memory is partitioned it would make sense that the device ends up being bricked after trying to flash something not ment to be flashed on it. :/ I hope this makes some sense to you. Also, if I am correct then it makes no sense to blame HMD for this because they have not done anything wrong. It is most likely the reseller who reflashed your TA-1054 with a ported version of the global ROM.
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Well, I cannot be 100% sure. But I would assume that if your phone was running a ported version of the global ROM and not the official Chinese firmware and it somehow got an OTA update then because of the differences in how the phone's memory is partitioned it would make sense that the device ends up being bricked after trying to flash something not ment to be flashed on it. :/ I hope this makes some sense to you. Also, if I am correct then it makes no sense to blame HMD for this because they have not done anything wrong. It is most likely the reseller who reflashed your TA-1054 with a ported version of the global ROM.
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i've legit thought about that! the box itself has lots of chinese on it, so it might be the case. Either way, reseller responded and i'll probably just sent it back to them this week because apparently it's their fault.
strangely, my mi a1 didnt even let the OTA install when i had the bootloader unlocked, so it's weird to see a phone getting bricked like this. I actually felt guilty for letting the OTA install, even though i didn't do anything wrong here (exceptionally:laugh
Thanks for the suggestions m8!
I think You bought a crappy Chinese dummy Nokia 6.1 HMD is not in Finland hands anymore.
The hardware is different. And the software is Android one.
I am curious how your reseller solves the problem.
can anyone tell how can help to exit from download mode. i have tried by connecting charger and holding pwr button and vol up and after andriod logo came i released by pwr button and holding the vol up button. its not worked
later i connected to my pc and install adb driver and fastboot and then through cmd prompt i run adb bootloader but its not working then i check adb devices but there is nothing shows in attched devices and also i tried with fastboot reload then mobie restarts and came back to dowload mode. so out of these step can anyone have any suggestions to get back my mobile..thank you
ok so, i kinda neglected the thread but heres what happened:
i tried EDL mode with deep flash cable, didnt work. i tried installing all sorts of drivers on my PC from all sorts of sketchy sites, after a point i decided not to mess my PC or the phone up even more.
i contacted my reseller who "fixed" the phone by installing the pie update on it somehow, and it's functional now. i even told them the phone wasn't the european version but they didn't seem to care, and i didn't feel like playing with them anymore. but it's FAR from stable, buggy as hell, and LTE B20 doesn't work either (that might have a thing or 2 to do with the phone being chinese...)
thanks for all of u for helping, this particular phone was way more than enough reason for me not to buy a nokia again ))))

Pixel 2 Bricked??! (Solved!)

I started updating the phone to the Jan 2019 update from the Dec 2018 update (I just like having the latest updates) It rebooted into bootloader via ADB just fine. I then ran the flash all.bat without the -w so it wouldnt wipe the phone out completely. It started updating and rebooting just like normal after the bootloader and radio parts. It made it close to the end of the system update and did not reboot the phone. It went back to the bootloader which I thought was odd. Fastboot can no longer see the phone in Fastboot devices. When starting the phone it reboots back into bootloader saying load failed. It also will not boot into recovery (which I expected from the update and not getting to flash twrp back in yet) I have rebooted the phone and my computer as well. I tried my other phone to check the cable and it found it in ADB and Fastboot just fine. I do have the latest SDK installed. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Chilipepprflea said:
I know this is probably too late for you guys, but maybe it will help someone else. Fastboot commands would result in "waiting on any device" and my Pixel 2 wouldn't boot out of the bootloader. I thought it was done for good based on this thread and others I've read...until I came across this Reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/b25nso/error_slot_unbootable_load_error/
I did what this guy did and held the power button (ended up being for a couple minutes in my case) and it vibrated and all is good again! adb recognized my phone and I was able to flash again.
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You'll have to go back into bootloader and do a stock flash follow the steps on googles site. go back to 8.0 or whatever you were on before, make sure that boots up fine. You must not have had updated your sdk before trying to update to 9.0
I was going to just reflash everything but when I do fastboot devices its just blank as if the phone does not exist. Also the computer doesnt do its chime when I plug the USB in while its in bootloader. When the phone is off and I plug it in it shows the charging icon for a split second then boots into bootloader saying ERROR: Slot Unbootable: Load Error. If I try to do any commands in fastboot it just says "waiting for any device"
I was already on 9.0 and was just pushing the January security patch when it stopped near the end of the update. Now I can not get fastboot to even see the device.
Try removing all drivers and fastboot files on your pc. Sounds like you just flashed the wrong file. Were you rooted with magisk? or just on a stock rom. re download the full image and try and re flash. https://developers.google.com/android/images
Because of the slots (a and b) alot of people seem to have trouble flashing things. I have even messed things up as well. On the Pixel devices I havent been able to not go back into stock setups. Even if it took removing all files and starting over.
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I will keep checking back over here to see if you have any issues.
So I just tried what you had said. Deleted all the SDK files and uninstalled the drivers, rebooted computer and phone redownloaded everything and still can not find the phone via fastboot... magisk was installed but I was doing the full image install without the -w so it would not wipe. it was almost done with it and never actually booted into android it just stayed on the bootloader which I found strange. That is when I noticed that the phone could no longer be found via fastboot devices. I have tried different cords different ports and even a different computer and still have the same result. It did update the bootloader and radio portions of the update. I feel like if I can get fastboot to start working I can save this thing.
I got caught up with friends that came over. You have tried everything I would have tried. Which is good cause you seem to know what you are doing, but not good that it hasnt been resolved. Have you looked at this guide? https://forum.xda-developers.com/pi...ol-deuces-bootloop-recovery-flashing-t3704761
Coolpente said:
I started updating the phone to the Jan 2019 update from the Dec 2018 update (I just like having the latest updates) It rebooted into bootloader via ADB just fine. I then ran the flash all.bat without the -w so it wouldnt wipe the phone out completely. It started updating and rebooting just like normal after the bootloader and radio parts. It made it close to the end of the system update and did not reboot the phone. It went back to the bootloader which I thought was odd. Fastboot can no longer see the phone in Fastboot devices. When starting the phone it reboots back into bootloader saying load failed. It also will not boot into recovery (which I expected from the update and not getting to flash twrp back in yet) I have rebooted the phone and my computer as well. I tried my other phone to check the cable and it found it in ADB and Fastboot just fine. I do have the latest SDK installed. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Are you *sure* it will not boot to recovery? If you're not used to the stock recovery it can fool you. Many ppl see the dead android and stop there. If you can get into the stock recovery you can try sideloading an OTA via adb (which only works in recovery). I would also be trying different computers and cables. If you cannot use fastboot -and- you have no working recovery you might be dead in the water.
OMG @Coolpente!!!! THIS....HAPPENED...TO....ME!!!!
Holy crap! I can't believe this happened to someone else! I thought it was just me and my bad luck!
I literally was doing the same thing (only difference was on my gf's pixel 2 [walleye])! And those who have seen me around this forum the last year know that I am very knowledgeable and don't make the simple and "noob" mistakes! I've literally have helped and recovered people in this/our position -- so it is doubtful there was a amateur or novice mistake made in the updating process or "stone un-turned" in the recovery process!
So here is what happened to me, particularly, and my observations on it...
- When "crap hit the fan", it was very peculiar that fastboot would identify the phone's serial number as "??????????" (when running the command "fastboot devices"). Only after rebooting and disconnecting/reconnecting the usb cable did it (fastboot) simply just stop detecting. To make sure that my computer, usb port, cable, and fastboot is working correctly and able to process properly, I would make sure the fastboot process/server was not running, then I would actually run the command "fastboot getvar all", and as it would "would for device", I would plug in the phone, nothing would happen, then plug in my phone [taimen] (not my gf's walleye), and it would detect it and display all the pertinent information and device details, I would then unplug it from my phone, run the same getvar command, and lastly replug it into the phone (broken gf's walleye) with no detection or success.
- What's also interesting and of note is that when loading straight into the bootloader (via button combination), it displays no error in the list of device details. But when booting into the recovery (note: I, like the OP, had the TWRP custom recovery already flashed and installed) and also the system and/or from a power-off state, it states in red colored font and yellow background, "ERROR: Slot Unbootable: Load Error". Even more than that is when attempting to boot into Download mode, it states a different error (but in the same font style), "ERROR: Operation Denied"!
- I also attempted to manually change the slot in attempts to address the "slot unbootable..." "...load[ing] error", but -- due to either fastboot not detecting or the device not connecting properly I imagine -- without fastboot properly detecting, the commands wouldn't work and execute properly anyway. I've even taken steps further and attempted to format and custom "re-size" partitions. But, for the aforementioned reasons (presumably), it and attempts at commands like it wouldn't likely work and execute, again as previously reasoned. Also, in attempt to tackle the "slot" aspect of the issue, I tried Deuce's script; but as Deuce's script is, simply put, based off of the flash-all.bat that ends up being an advanced batch (pun intended) of commands that manually and individually flashes the stock images/partitions to the partitions of the device -- so, in essence, uses fastboot and since fastboot can't work.... I even found and attempted to use the (hardly heard of; at least to me) tool Skipsoft Android Toolkit (which looks genuinely super dooper awesome btw...)... all for naught :crying: ...
You know, after a year with the Pixel 2 (XL), and after coming back from messing my phone up (15+ times), and actually purely bricking it once (had to get it replaced), I always thought that, as long as one could access the device via the bootloader, one would always have hope (at least in the Pixel's case). So, it's curious but agonizingly ironic being able to access the bootloader (which was not the case in my one and only instance of bricking my device and having a completely "lost cause") just for me not to be able to do anything about it and/or fastboot to not be able to properly connect and send commands to it...
But to me and Coolpente (and anyone else who this may have happened to) I ultimately can't think of anything else that can be done at this point. To re-iterate, I/we had the most up-to-date platform-tools (r28.0.1), it has been proven that the usb cord, port, computer, and drivers are all working as I was able to get the "getvar all" command to work on another pixel mere seconds before attempting the same on this (broken) device, and even attempted all tools available...
Unfortunately, @Coolpente, it does look as if our phones are irrevocably "bricked" and it's all rather doomed and attempting to get it repaired/replaced by the manufacturer ("The Big G") is the only recourse we may have :crying::crying::crying:
I wrote this (very long) post in hopes of giving as much information and details as possible in the desperate hopes that any other solutions might be brought up...
simplepinoi177 said:
OMG @Coolpente!!!! THIS....HAPPENED...TO....ME!!!!
Holy crap! I can't believe this happened to someone else! I thought it was just me and my bad luck!
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I wrote this (very long) post in hopes of giving as much information and details as possible in the desperate hopes that any other solutions might be brought up...
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I am so glad I am not the only one that his has happened to! I have rooted several phones as well as almost bricking the one that ultimately bricked... (not up to date sdk tools) You have word for word the exact same thing that is happening to me. no recovery no booting and no download mode just the bootloader which is not found by fastboot. I thought at first it may have been the usb port in the phone disconnecting somehow but when plugging it in from a completely off state it does show the charging battery screen for a split second then boots into bootloader saying it can not load that slot. I am not very fluent in the disassembly of phones like this or I would check to see if the data parts of the USB port are not connected to the board.. It kills me that the phone is not even a year old and something like this would happen.. I have since gotten a replacement phone but I am very interested in seeing if there is a way to fix it in the near future outside of sending it in.
Coolpente said:
I am so glad I am not the only one that his has happened to! I have rooted several phones as well as almost bricking the one that ultimately bricked... (not up to date sdk tools) You have word for word the exact same thing that is happening to me. no recovery no booting and no download mode just the bootloader which is not found by fastboot. I thought at first it may have been the usb port in the phone disconnecting somehow but when plugging it in from a completely off state it does show the charging battery screen for a split second then boots into bootloader saying it can not load that slot. I am not very fluent in the disassembly of phones like this or I would check to see if the data parts of the USB port are not connected to the board.. It kills me that the phone is not even a year old and something like this would happen.. I have since gotten a replacement phone but I am very interested in seeing if there is a way to fix it in the near future outside of sending it in.
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I know it is highly unlikely, but I'm hanging in there hoping for the same thing as well...
Yeah, it's troubling that this is can be happening coming from very "seasoned" users!
I was considering the same that it feels more like a hardware issue since everything seems to work on the computer end as well as everything working on another pixel device, BUT I can't see how a failed "fastboot" command and process can effect any kind of hardware or physical connections ("data parts")?!
If anything, I believe it has to do with the sequence of events of how things crapped out... I believe that, in some random manner, the bootloader -- which gets flashed and updated first; referencing the script in the flash-all.bat -- gets replaced, but isn't installed/initialized/"placed" properly -- but curiously enough, is installed "properly" enough that it can be re-entered after turning the device off -- that most everything works BUT the all important fastboot connection/interface/detection! That's why I attempted to manually flash the bootloader image ("fastboot flash bootloader bootloader.img"), but, "head-bangingly" poetic in its irony of course, fastboot is required to accomplish this ("this" being fixing freaking "fastboot"! :crying: )
I'm terrified to update my own Pixel at this point.
Unfortunately, this seems to have only been documented in our two cases (so far)...I wonder if it's even worth creating a Google support ticket in attempts to bring it up to them in hopes that they fix whatever might be causing this -- hopefully assisting and saving others from this disaster -- and/or even pull the update until it is stable (although, like I stated, it seems not a prevalent enough issue that many either have successfully updated via this image and process or most haven't brought it up anywhere) and/or keep it from happening in the next update.
In any case, here's hoping ("pray for the best, expect the worst" kind of scenario is most likely appropriate) any kind of solution materializes, or, at the very least, can be shown as a "word of warning" and caution about the (this, specifically) update....
simplepinoi177 said:
OMG @Coolpente!!!! THIS....HAPPENED...TO....ME!!!!
Holy crap! I can't believe this happened to someone else! I thought it was just me and my bad luck!
I literally was doing the same thing (only difference was on my gf's pixel 2 [walleye])!
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Find a new girlfriend, your problem will be easily solved.
simplepinoi177 said:
I know it is highly unlikely, but I'm hanging in there hoping for the same thing as well...
Yeah, it's troubling that this is can be happening coming from very "seasoned" users!
I was considering the same that it feels more like a hardware issue since everything seems to work on the computer end as well as everything working on another pixel device, BUT I can't see how a failed "fastboot" command and process can effect any kind of hardware or physical connections ("data parts")?!
If anything, I believe it has to do with the sequence of events of how things crapped out... I believe that, in some random manner, the bootloader -- which gets flashed and updated first; referencing the script in the flash-all.bat -- gets replaced, but isn't installed/initialized/"placed" properly -- but curiously enough, is installed "properly" enough that it can be re-entered after turning the device off -- that most everything works BUT the all important fastboot connection/interface/detection! That's why I attempted to manually flash the bootloader image ("fastboot flash bootloader bootloader.img"), but, "head-bangingly" poetic in its irony of course, fastboot is required to accomplish this ("this" being fixing freaking "fastboot"! :crying: )
I'm terrified to update my own Pixel at this point.
Unfortunately, this seems to have only been documented in our two cases (so far)...I wonder if it's even worth creating a Google support ticket in attempts to bring it up to them in hopes that they fix whatever might be causing this -- hopefully assisting and saving others from this disaster -- and/or even pull the update until it is stable (although, like I stated, it seems not a prevalent enough issue that many either have successfully updated via this image and process or most haven't brought it up anywhere) and/or keep it from happening in the next update.
In any case, here's hoping ("pray for the best, expect the worst" kind of scenario is most likely appropriate) any kind of solution materializes, or, at the very least, can be shown as a "word of warning" and caution about the (this, specifically) update....
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I have considered going to a custom rom and avoiding the stock rom completely... Which would avoid ever needing to use fastboot to update in the future.. but its to late for one phone but not to late for the other. I havent even looked into roms since CM broke down...
Coolpente said:
I have considered going to a custom rom and avoiding the stock rom completely... Which would avoid ever needing to use fastboot to update in the future.. but its to late for one phone but not to late for the other. I havent even looked into roms since CM broke down...
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Yeah....but, if you think of it, I've been updating by way of Full Factory images via fastboot for over a year (14 months to be exact), so the last 13 times and 13 out of 14 times it worked perfectly....so, pure statistics, I wonder if swearing off fastboot forever is truly pertinent just yet...
Well, at least the pixel 2's been out for....14 months, apparently...so there seems to be a lot of good, stable custom ROMs that have been long in development to choose from, if anything... **~shrugs~**
simplepinoi177 said:
Yeah....but, if you think of it, I've been updating by way of Full Factory images via fastboot for over a year (14 months to be exact), so the last 13 times and 13 out of 14 times it worked perfectly....so, pure statistics, I wonder if swearing off fastboot forever is truly pertinent just yet...
Well, at least the pixel 2's been out for....14 months, apparently...so there seems to be a lot of good, stable custom ROMs that have been long in development to choose from, if anything... **~shrugs~**
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As far as statistics are concerned yea I have been updating 2 pixels by full factory images for the last year and one has survived all 12 months while the other made it through 11 of 12. but in fear of bricking another pixel device knowing this could potentially happen again... it feels as if going to custom roms would for sure be the safest method and still keep root. Of course losing root and going pure stock would be 100% the best... I love having root and dont want to lose it.
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As far as statistics are concerned yea I have been updating 2 pixels by full factory images for the last year and one has survived all 12 months while the other made it through 11 of 12. but in fear of bricking another pixel device knowing this could potentially happen again... it feels as if going to custom roms would for sure be the safest method and still keep root. Of course losing root and going pure stock would be 100% the best... I love having root and dont want to lose it.
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Yeah, I see what you're saying and in the exact same boat (2 pixels, gf's is a walleye, mine's a taimen, both have been updated monthly with no issues or def bricking issues, so 14 of 14 and 13 of 14...)...
But I guess that's definitely one of the "safest" methods, just that support for ROMs come and go (hell, even one of the original custom kernels [Flash] is EOL)...but Pixel 2 is only a year "in" and Google will continue to support it for the foreseeable future so it may look like regular support for walleye/taimen-related mods will continue to get regular updates and support as well...
But still, as I enjoy our conversations, it also serves to "bump" this thread as well...
Anyone have any idea on how to reinstall bootloaders, switch slots, enter custom recovery, flash anything all without -- and this is key -- fastboot (because fastboot will not detect and connect with the device)?!?!
I just tried to update to Feb from Jan and this happened to me....
Anything I can do about it?
James1258 said:
I just tried to update to Feb from Jan and this happened to me....
Anything I can do about it?
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Awww crap! Super sorry to hear that! As you can see, not a lot of ideas or thoughts were submitted, and haven't been in a long while, so there doesn't seem to be much/anything that can be done it seems...
If you truly have the exact same thing, then that means that the USB connection is not working, so, you're not able to get into the recovery nor able to run any commands, so the only recourse it seems me and @Coolpente is to contact Google and attempt at a RMA...
But, as this is a third instance -- there may be more; I'm convinced there are, they just have not spoken up here specifically -- I wonder if this is something to be brought up to Google Support (https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!forum/phone-by-google) and their support forums? I mean, although this might not be a widespread widely known issue, this issue does make the device completely unusable and able to be rescued! For me, that's a serious matter -- as most other issues you can learn to live with it (while still being able to use the device for the most part) and/or it's something that can be worked on, repaired, debugged, etc. -- that needs to be attended to, dealt with, or at the very least brought to their attention.
simplepinoi177 said:
Awww crap! Super sorry to hear that! As you can see, not a lot of ideas or thoughts were submitted, and haven't been in a long while, so there doesn't seem to be much/anything that can be done it seems...
If you truly have the exact same thing, then that means that the USB connection is not working, so, you're not able to get into the recovery nor able to run any commands, so the only recourse it seems me and @Coolpente is to contact Google and attempt at a RMA...
But, as this is a third instance -- there may be more; I'm convinced there are, they just have not spoken up here specifically -- I wonder if this is something to be brought up to Google Support (https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!forum/phone-by-google) and their support forums? I mean, although this might not be a widespread widely known issue, this issue does make the device completely unusable and able to be rescued! For me, that's a serious matter -- as most other issues you can learn to live with it (while still being able to use the device for the most part) and/or it's something that can be worked on, repaired, debugged, etc. -- that needs to be attended to, dealt with, or at the very least brought to their attention.
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I just contacted Google for an RMA. Hope it doesn't occur on the phone that will be shipped to me. Now I am without a phone for a couple weeks...
James1258 said:
I just tried to update to Feb from Jan and this happened to me....
Anything I can do about it?
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Did you also ran the flash all without - w?
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