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BT GPS Copilot PIN?

Hi,
I have a problem with a Bluetooth GPS receiver (COPILOT) and pairing it with the XDA II.Why does it always asks me for a device PIN.I haven't got one.Why do I need one and why can I not do it without a DEvcie PIN ?
I am ROM 1.6 and Radio 1.1
Help would very much appreciated.
Heiko

To prevent people from making unauthorized use of the unit! If you haven't got the pin then there's probably something fishy about the way you got it ........
Do you have a manual? it should be in there.

Nothing fishy about it.Bought it from expansys.Does every device need a PIN then.Got Software activation code and all the boxes and manual.
Are not explaining pairing in the manual at all.Should just work according to the Manual.
Heiko

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All you needed to do was search the forum for Copilot.

I searched for Bluetooth and GPS,but Copilot did not come to mind.
I think I am a bit fed up in having so many problems.
EXPANSYS seem to have sent me an incomplete package.Only half the Vent mount kit and no instruction booklet for GPS.
Thanks very much.You made my day!
I am very grateful to you for that info.
Hope it will sort my problem.
Heiko

I am step furher .I got the two paired now.
It seems that I have no proper manual for the GPS receiver would anybody know which Com Port I need to set it to and what speed ?I get a green tick for GPS Comp Port Opened and when I choose Setup GPS,
Automatic seems not to detect.I get error message "Automatic GPS connection failed.Verify that your receiver is connected.".
Any ideas?
Thanks Heiko

Try com 5, assuming you answered yes to the question about serial device when bonding the gps.

I think for future reference here is my painful configuration experience of COPILOT Version 5 with a Copilot Bluetooth GPS receiver and XDA II.
1.Check that the Quickstart Package is complete:
-GPS receiver User Guide,Ventmount Kit with attachment for PDA,Bluetooth PIN code for GPS receiver.
- User/Installation Guide
- CDs and 128Mbyte SD card
2.Install the Software from the SD Card according to the User Guide
3.Check the Version number and note it down.Go to the Technical Support section of the Copilot Website and see whether there are any Patches available.
3.Deinstall the software from your device and install the patched software which you need to copy onto your SD card.
4.Install the software.
3.Check that you have bonded your Bluetooth GPS receiver with the XDA II and enable Comport 4Inbound and 5 Outbound.(ROM Version 1.60)
5.Use Code 0183 as the Bluetooth device PIN code
6.Go into Copilot software and everything should work as it did for me if you haven't lost the will to live by this time !
7.read this first : Buy a SatNav system with your car and haggle with the salesman like mad (its quicker).
Hope this helps everyone else as people helped me here.
Thanks
Heiko

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you for the code
I was just about to give up, but the 0183 code worked like a charm. I have the new PPC6700 with WM5 and all of a sudden it wants the code. Previous versions never needed it. You just saved me $150.
Thanks again

Blackberry Connect On IMate PDA2K/MDA III/XDA III/Blue Angel

Here is a very complete guide for everybody who is using blackberry but tired of the limited functionality and want to switch to pocket pc using blackberry connect. I have IMate PDA2K, also named as Blue Angel, XDA IIs, MDAIII and some other names and I am trying any possible solution to have blackberry connect work on this device
1. At the current time, blackberry connect is officially offered in the following countries: A. UK by O2, supported device is XDA II/MDA II or the same device under other names, but essentially all are the same, manufactured by HTC, but the support and connectivity from O2 is ver poor. The blackberry version on this is 1.2, designed to work with pocket pc 2002. It's english version so the cab file should install on WWE version. B. Germany by T-Mobile, supports both MDAII and III. The software is blackberry connect version 2.0, designed to work with pocket PC 2003. The software is in Germany and the ROM update will not install on WWE version devise. C. Austrlia and Netherland also by T-Mobile under the same capacity.
2. There is no U.S. carrier right now who supports blackberry connect officially right now, either on the pocket PC or Palm platform. Might be available on Sony-Ericson 910, which is Sybiam based. Even if that is the case, it's of no value to pocket pc users.
3. There are examples of the O2 version BB connect working on MDA II here through T-Mobile. Go to www.xda-developers.com and looking for articles posted by cbrow51. He has detailed guide on how to make it work(Through BWC, not BES)
4. All installable .CAB and desktop BB can be found from the xda site.
5. I installed the german version of the BB connect .CAB file on my device as well as the desktop software(that can be installed in English version). The device talkes to the desktop PC and the BES side getts the correct PIN. I put my SIM card from my AT&T blackberry handheld on my new device. It's not working yet, I think I need to change the built in APN and IP address for connection from the BB connect software(which should be connecting to German) through someway to make it work.
Anybody interested in this, Let me know

Let's make it work!
Latest update on Blackberry Connect in the U.S.
Talked to AT&T support and the BES support from my company today. This is especially relevant to SX66/MDA III/XDA III/Blue Angel/QTeq 9090/IMate PDA2K, basically all the same device manufactured by HTC for different branding, which runs Pocket PC 2003. And it is related to BES.
1. The wireless carrier should have no problem with the connection. The only thing realte to the carrier side is your SIM, which doesn't really affect the connection as long as your BES side have your correct PIN. The carrier automatically recoganize your PIN when it's registrated in your BES. And it does not use IMEI at all.
2. The BES side should not have problem either since once you have your BB Client on your device talk to your desk top, the PIN should automatically recoganized by the BES
3. The trick is that all PINs on blackberry devices are hardcoded in the device, while through BB Client, it is generated from the software. The RIM server need to recoganize your PIN. I think the BB Connect i am using, which is the the .CAB extracted from the German MDA III(T-Mobile), has some utility to register the software generated PIN with RIM if you are on the T-Mobile German GPRS network, while other carriers don't have.
I will talk to RIM on Monday to see if they can register my PIN. I will keep you guys updated.
Any one interested in this topic, please let's form a ring

Re: Let's make it work!
rwu said:
Latest update on Blackberry Connect in the U.S.
Talked to AT&T support and the BES support from my company today. This is especially relevant to SX66/MDA III/XDA III/Blue Angel/QTeq 9090/IMate PDA2K, basically all the same device manufactured by HTC for different branding, which runs Pocket PC 2003. And it is related to BES.
1. The wireless carrier should have no problem with the connection. The only thing realte to the carrier side is your SIM, which doesn't really affect the connection as long as your BES side have your correct PIN. The carrier automatically recoganize your PIN when it's registrated in your BES. And it does not use IMEI at all.
2. The BES side should not have problem either since once you have your BB Client on your device talk to your desk top, the PIN should automatically recoganized by the BES
3. The trick is that all PINs on blackberry devices are hardcoded in the device, while through BB Client, it is generated from the software. The RIM server need to recoganize your PIN. I think the BB Connect i am using, which is the the .CAB extracted from the German MDA III(T-Mobile), has some utility to register the software generated PIN with RIM if you are on the T-Mobile German GPRS network, while other carriers don't have.
I will talk to RIM on Monday to see if they can register my PIN. I will keep you guys updated.
Any one interested in this topic, please let's form a ring
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This is great news! I'm getting my SX66 on Tuesday and I was just going to hack at it till I could get the BB Connect to work.. I've been reading several posts about converting the German to English and people who have problems generating PINs that come up with a "0". The problem is all I can do is research at the moment and just think about how it should work. Do you have any tips for a newbee who will probably blowup the unit a few times??
Any help or guidance will be appreciated.

Very interested in this! I have successfully installed the BB Connect cab on my XDA2i and now just need to know if the pin issue can be sorted.
Do you think this is possible?

I believe the PIN issue can definitely be resolved as long as RIM is willing to take the software PIN, since they are doing so in German already. I am also attaching the BB Connect .CAB file extracted from the German T-Mobile ROM for MDA III. Just copy it to your device and click install it from there shouldn't cause any problem to your SX66

Also, here is the BB Desktop softie, this does have the English installation.

Hokay,
I've installed the BB COnnect on my XDAIIi and the desktop configuration sofware on my laptop, but the BB connect software says the PIN is 0 and the config software on the PC says that the PIN is "Not Configured".
How do you get it to generate a PIN in the 1st place?

squiggs1982 said:
Hokay,
I've installed the BB COnnect on my XDAIIi and the desktop configuration sofware on my laptop, but the BB connect software says the PIN is 0 and the config software on the PC says that the PIN is "Not Configured".
How do you get it to generate a PIN in the 1st place?
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Do you have the latest radio on your IIi? I know on the MDA III the radio has to be upraged as well for the BB Connect software to read the IMEI and generate the soft PIN #.
Again this is only from what I can gather from forums that I have been reading. I will not be able to verify anything until next week when my SX66 comes in.
Hope this helps you.

As follows:
ROM Version 1.10.00 WWE
ROM Date 24/12/04
Radio Version 1.00.00
PRotocol VErsion 1337.39
ExtROM VErsion 1.10.124 WWE

squiggs1982 said:
As follows:
ROM Version 1.10.00 WWE
ROM Date 24/12/04
Radio Version 1.00.00
PRotocol VErsion 1337.39
ExtROM VErsion 1.10.124 WWE
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Have you run any firmware updates on your unit?
I have read on this forum that the Radio needs to be upgraded for the BB Connect to read the IMEI properly in order to generate a PIN#. Most of the reasearch I have been doing is on the Blue Angel. But I do know that there is a higher rev of the Radio than 1.00.00.
Hope this helps.

squiggs1982 said:
As follows:
ROM Version 1.10.00 WWE
ROM Date 24/12/04
Radio Version 1.00.00
PRotocol VErsion 1337.39
ExtROM VErsion 1.10.124 WWE
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Here is a link with a doc on how to get started with the BB Connect client.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=12589&highlight=blackberry+pin+radio
But again, I think the Radio has to be upgraded first.
I'm not sure if you have done so or not but there is one section on Page 15 of the PDF file that talks about creating a pin.
Tap Start > Settings.
Tap the System tab.
Tap the BlackBerry icon.
On the BlackBerry Introductory screen, tap next.
Read the End User License Agreement carefully, and scroll to the very bottom.
To accept the terms of the End User License Agreement, tap Accept. Your PIN is created and the
service is started.
Good luck.

Hmm...
Looks like it might be the end of the road then. As far as I can tell, there is no newer radio version ...

So at risk of sounding silly.
Has anyone managed to succesfully configure a BlueAngel with Blackberry and if so, what levels of ROM were they using, what version of the client and what carriers as I would also like to be able to set this up.
Thanks

What is the BB Connect version u r using? I had the same problem with the 1.2 version stripped from O2's ROM. But the 2.0 version generated PIN with no problem.

Hi there,
Using version 1.2. Where would I come accross v2? I'm assuming the one you posted above is in German? Sadly, I don't speak any!

version 2 generates a pin fine - but the only one i've been able to get was using the german client and although this sounds picky, i'd quite like to use a client that I can understand the settings properly (to any german readers, please dont take any offence from what i've written, its my own fault I didnt study german more at school!!)
also, the german client uses the t-mobile access point settings. i'm on o2 uk so how do i go about changing the ap's over?
Ta

Actually, for me, the GErman client still doesn't generatethe PIN correctly? :?

Contacted RIM a couple of time and seems like the German version of BB Connect from T-Mobile is not working for AT&T, at least. The problem is that it automatically look for the german T-Mobile net work to connect to the blackberry APN and IP. It is possible to change that from the CAB file though so it looks for defferent carrier's network. Bottom line, the data transfer is through the SIM card, which is carrier dependent. That is why on your blackberry device you will see the carrier's screen when you power it on. The BB devices' PIN are pre-assigned to carriers. It won't work if you shift carrier. Now, come back to our problem, we need somebody who knows how to cook the CAB file. Who can help here?

squiggs1982 said:
Hokay,
I've installed the BB COnnect on my XDAIIi and the desktop configuration sofware on my laptop, but the BB connect software says the PIN is 0 and the config software on the PC says that the PIN is "Not Configured".
How do you get it to generate a PIN in the 1st place?
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Answering you purely from my experience.
I got BB client installed on my XDA2 and the desktop BBconfig s/w on my PC connecting to my office network. While my XDA2 is on my cradle and pressing the BBconfig connect button, I supposed the BBConfig establishes the connection to my company BES and generated a PIN which is also registered with the BES server. If any of these steps should fail (e.g. PC not connected to BES) , I suppose the PIN will not be obtained.
In any case, I haven't gotten it to work. My company BES server refuse to recognise my PIN as a valid one.

Hmm... so we need to find out how to register the PIN that is generated with the BB service.
Action points then, guys!
1. Find out how to register the software generated PIN with BES
2. Find out how to switch APNs for different carriers

seriel RS232 port on MDA III -sync works but own app. not

Hello,
on a MDA III the synchronisation over a serial RS232 cable works fine
(although T-Mobile doesn't sell such a cable). Some software which I
develop for PDAs which uses the RS232 port there for communication
with external electronic hardware works fine on PDas but not on the MDA
III. It always crashes when I try to open the port (COM1).
Some installed device manager tool (a view only tool) seems to confiorm
that COM1 is the right one. It is named like this: "Serial cable on COM1".
What's wrong here? Active Sync has been closed before starting my
application. SOmebody somewhere mentioned that the keyboard could
block the com-port. Is this true? And if yes, how can ActiveSync then use
it?
Greetings
Markus

Re: seriel RS232 port on MDA III -sync works but own app. no
mh2005 said:
SOmebody somewhere mentioned that the keyboard could
block the com-port. Is this true?
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No, it's not true. The port is open by an
IR daemon listening for the connection,
and serial and IR share the same UART.
Uncheck the button in the settings, and
everything will work.
Everybody who has a RS232 GPS receiver
had the same problem.

How to get a "handsfree" BT-profile on my Blue Ang

Hello to all,
seems that the BA has only a "headset" BT - profile. To connect to my Ford built-in carkit I'd need a "handsfree" profile.
Who can help ?
Thanks in advance - Dieter

I'm pimping an iMate PDA2k running 1.40.00_WWE and I have High Quality Audio Setup, Handsfree/Headset Setup, Activesync, Browser FIles on remote Device, Connect to a Network, Join a personal network, exchange biz cards, explore a bt device and connect a keyboard.
What version are you running?
Maybe you aren't looking in the correct place? I am not too framaliar with the different builds, but for mine I click on the BT icon on the bottom of the screen, click on bt manager, then new. that is where all those options are!
Hope that helps ya.

What do you mean with:
1.40.00_WWE ???
Dieter

That is the specific version of software I am running on the phone.
When you do a soft rest it should list a few numbers on the boot screen. The version being one of them.
What phone do you have?

TMC to USB Port (for Chinese GPS)

Dear All,
I would like to share my experience in this TMC project.
Recently I bought a Chinese GPS 100 unit to connect to my JVC KD AVX40
This has an av out in 320x240 and JVC has an AV in.
You can control the unit via touchpad.
It works correctly to my unit so I decided to get a TMC for this product.
This unit has One USB port which is in Host mode.
So Put a normal USB hub on it and it worked well with Pendrive and External Mouse
Next step, I got a FTDI USB to Rs232 device.
It has FTDI 232BM chip for UART connection it's very important to use chip like this , because of the windows ce driver
I've opened it and I removed chip called SP213EHCA.
In every RS232 there are 2 chips on the board. One is for USB to UART , and the second is for Uart To Rs232.
Because the every TMC receiver uses TTL communication which is working on 3.3v I need to "convert" the unit to USB to UART TTL only.
Obviously you can build a small circuit for this communication, but for myself it was easier to use this solution.
After I removed the Rs232 chip.
Datasheet Page 5 for picture of the pin outs.
You can download it from the FTDI website
The Tmc Receiver pin out is :
Pin definition:
Pin1 Vcc: 5V +- 10%
Pin2 TX: 3.3V TTL level, TMC data output.
Pin3 RX: 3.3V TTL level, receive commands.
Pin4 GND <-- It's not ground It's 5V !!!
Pin5 GND (for mini-USB only)
I soldered a mini USB mother type connector to the chip legs:
PIN2 goes to chip leg 24
PIN3 goes to chip leg 25
PIN5 goes to chip leg 17
So after this I connected the Royaltek TMC unit to my "hacked Rs232" board.
I put the "hacked rs232" to hub and I used a USB mini usb cable for power the tmc unit, so I connect the cable to hub and after that to the tmc.
After this I used this driver for windows ce 5.0
You can download it from the ftdi web site
I have to use mortscript which copy a self made reg file to the registry and copy the ftdi dll to /windows/ folder
Reg:
REGEDIT4
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\USB\LoadClients\1027_24577]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\USB\LoadClients\1027_24577\Default]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\USB\LoadClients\1027_24577\Default\Default]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\USB\LoadClients\1027_24577\Default\Default\FTDI_DEVICE]
"DLL"="ftdi_ser"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\USB\LoadClients\Default\Default\255]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\USB\LoadClients\Default\Default\255\FTDI_DEVICE]
"DLL"="ftdi_ser"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\USB\ClientDrivers\FTDI_DEVICE]
"Index"=dword:00000001
"InitialIndex"=dword:00000001 <--- This is for which com port to use 1...9
"Dll"="ftdi_ser"
"Prefix"="COM"
"Version"="1.0.2.11"
"ActiveSyncSetting"=dword:0003e880
"LatencyTimer"=dword:00000010
"DeviceArrayIndex"=dword:00000000
This reg file is directly uses COM PORT 1 (It was free in my device )
After this I created a very small circuit which holds the usb power for 20sec
parallely my reg and driver is installing in this time.
When I reached 20sec My Hive based Windows Registry will recognize the FTDI device and there are no pop up meassegas appear ....
IGO recognized the TMC device hardware
The reason I write this how to , because I read so many forums ,and web pages to find a solution for this , but i didn't find anything.
GNS is providing a TMC receiver for CAR PC but with a prolific based USB to UART chip, and the ARM based cpu is not understanding the driver
Ough I forget the tmc receiver what used:
Royaltek RTA-3000
Have a nince day I hope that I could help to someone

guika said:
Dear All,
Snip, snip
Have a nince day I hope that I could help to someone
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I got the same JVC stereo, how can I unlock for multizone DVD? Thank!

If i understand it correctly that you mean, you want to unlock the dvd region limitation.
I didn't unlocked it, but the main problem, that the unlock lock status is came from the dvd FW, which is not possible to reach it, via this unit. I searched for the web, and JVC also, for some FW update. There isn't any. So from my side i say it's not possible in easy way.

I have tested this solution and since half year aho its working fine under -20 to +50 so it is a solution.
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Compatibility
Also tested with FT2232H
This soultion is working , only bug that because of the dual uart the windows device pop up a notification for the second uart driver.
Also working.
Not working with Moxa chip.
Not working with Prolific PL-2303. ( Because the driver for the chip is not going to get open com port in wince 5 :S )
It seems that the only solution is the FTDI chip.

I've made a test with bluepanter and Wayteq and a very old Blaupunkt.
Solution is worked when I changed the usb mode to Host in wince.
It's seems for the blepanter and the wayteq it make not so much sense bacuse you could buy their original accessories.
For the blaupunkt is okay.
Also this could be okay for the 1-2 din chinese gps. Needs to be tested.

Reception improving
I had issue with the tmc reception.
So the solution is make a fm Y cable, and share the outdoor antenna to the head unit and to the tmc receiver.
After the installation, I realised that the reception was not so good, because I miss calculated with the phantom power to my roof antenna, after the phantom power installation everything went fine.
I got reception where I never had it before. TMC news downloading time improved as well.
Take care with the phantom power because it could kill the TMC receiver, use only one way adapter !

hi,
many many thanks for you thread...i had some questions...
i have bought an Dynavin DVN-MC2000 and this unit is without TMC but it have an GPS-In Mother-Usb cable...i think this goes directly to the wince5.0 system.
Where did you buy your RT-3000 and do you have the complete name of the FTDI Modul?!
Maybe we can develop a solution together i could make fotos from my open DVN-MC2000 if it helps

Maybe a ohoto would be great.
I bought the tmc unit in hungary in an avarage shop.
About ftdi i had one in my work desk. But it doesnt matter the meaing is it should any type which is supporting from the wince ftdi driver side. See ftdi web.
Sent from my GT-I9000

Hello all!!
I've been reading the post and I have to congratulate you, very interesting!
If you do not mind I'll use this thread because I want to ask you a question, I haven´t found any response in any expert forum.
I have a problem with my car radio. It is a chenese radio with GPS and TMC integrated.
From the beginning the TMC worked correctly but It had problems with the GPS. It didn´t work properly (may be the driver was wrong or it was bad installed on the WIN CE5). The provider din´t give me a solution and I found a forum in France. There someone sent me an European WIN CE 5 ROM with the GPS installed a working properly. The problem is that this guy didnt have any ROM with the TMC driver integrated and now I dont have it installed.
My actual state is: WIN CE + GPS HW (installed and working) + TMC HW (not insalled)
My question is:
How could I install the TMC in my radio WIN CE5? The HW exists but my WIN CE 5 does not have the drivers and of course the IGO can not find it.
Thank you very much!
pd: sorry about my english!!!

elmike1980 said:
Hello all!!
I've been reading the post and I have to congratulate you, very interesting!
If you do not mind I'll use this thread because I want to ask you a question, I haven´t found any response in any expert forum.
I have a problem with my car radio. It is a chenese radio with GPS and TMC integrated.
From the beginning the TMC worked correctly but It had problems with the GPS. It didn´t work properly (may be the driver was wrong or it was bad installed on the WIN CE5). The provider din´t give me a solution and I found a forum in France. There someone sent me an European WIN CE 5 ROM with the GPS installed a working properly. The problem is that this guy didnt have any ROM with the TMC driver integrated and now I dont have it installed.
My actual state is: WIN CE + GPS HW (installed and working) + TMC HW (not insalled)
My question is:
How could I install the TMC in my radio WIN CE5? The HW exists but my WIN CE 5 does not have the drivers and of course the IGO can not find it.
Thank you very much!
pd: sorry about my english!!!
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From the first i need to know what kind of tmc chip do you have. Royaltek/GNS and after that we can get closer to the problem. Qhit the upper sokution you can put in the driver if we will figure out the chip manufacturel.
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I am sure that the integrated chip is GNS tipe.
The only thing that can hapen if we install a wrong driver is that it would not work, wouldnt it?
But the other things would work good...
thank you!

elmike1980 said:
I am sure that the integrated chip is GNS tipe.
The only thing that can hapen if we install a wrong driver is that it would not work, wouldnt it?
But the other things would work good...
thank you!
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Generally yes.
But first. You will need to do some test. I will post it later. Because right now in this days i have a lot to do. I wont forget your problem so i will post it here what to check first to start your problem solving....
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thank you very much!
I will wait for your answer.
regards.

please dont forget me!!
bye!

Dony worry i wont
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Hello Guika,
Where did you get your Chinease GPS 100? can you send me the link?
Thanks,

cjean said:
Hello Guika,
Where did you get your Chinease GPS 100? can you send me the link?
Thanks,
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http://www.car-audio.hu/?base=items&filter=cat&type=item&catid=0&cid=141&id=714
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elmike1980 said:
thank you very much!
I will wait for your answer.
regards.
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I found something maybe from your IGO8 folder is missing one file called gpstmc.dll
Check this forum
http://www.mobilepassion.org/viewtopic.php?t=2355

I will check it.
Anyway I think that I need the driver for TMC receiver. I have the HW but it is not installed. Do you know were could I find TMC drivers for Win CE 5? with them the problem would be solved-install and the IGO would take it automatically (I had it installed the first time, but the GPS didnt work).