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Hi, I'm Eduard!
So, I have a few questions about Xiaomi MI 5s Plus and this brand, in general. I want to buy a new phone for myself because my Samsung Galaxy S2 Plus is a bit old right now!
#1: What is your experience with this brand, in general? Is it really that good as 'internet' says?
#2: What is your experience with this phone, in general? Is it performant? Can I install custom ROMs ? There is a Global ROM available or only the Chinese ROM version?
#3: Can you recommend a good seller for this phone? I'm from Romania. Can this websites be trusted? : xiaomi-mi*dot*com , xiaomidevice*dot*com
Thank you very much for your time!
geduardcatalin said:
Hi, I'm Eduard!
So, I have a few questions about Xiaomi MI 5s Plus and this brand, in general. I want to buy a new phone for myself because my Samsung Galaxy S2 Plus is a bit old right now!
#1: What is your experience with this brand, in general? Is it really that good as 'internet' says?
#2: What is your experience with this phone, in general? Is it performant? Can I install custom ROMs ? There is a Global ROM available or only the Chinese ROM version?
#3: Can you recommend a good seller for this phone? I'm from Romania. Can this websites be trusted? : xiaomi-mi*dot*com , xiaomidevice*dot*com
Thank you very much for your time!
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Hello Eduard
#1: My xiaomi experience is : 4 redmi note 2 prime, 2 mi4c, 1 redmi and 3 Mi 5s (children, friend and me). All products work 's fine. I replaced screen on redmi note 2 & mi4c without issues.
#2 Mi 5s is my daily phone (4gb/128). I come from nexus 5 (3 years old) and galaxy s7 (1 month with it, really bad phone (my opinion)).
Mi 5s is really good, just missing qi charging (for my car...)
If you want a international rom (custom) you can see mi-globe.com (bootloader unlock needed).
#3 all my xiaomi are ordered from smartophone.com . Really trusted seller.
Sorry for my english (French)
Bets regards
Christophe
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If you want a international rom (custom) you can see mi-globe.com (bootloader unlock needed).
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Is this a pre-rooted rom or have to install root separately?
edit By the way Eduard Mi5S is very good hardware, I dont like MIUI (personal preference) so waiting on vanilla or CM. But at least the hardware is well worth the price I can guarantee that.
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Is this a pre-rooted rom or have to install root separately?
edit By the way Eduard Mi5S is very good hardware, I dont like MIUI (personal preference) so waiting on vanilla or CM. But at least the hardware is well worth the price I can guarantee that.
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I have few Xioami phones and I'm really happy with the hardware and if you are not very picky MIUI will be good for you. Currently I'm using Mi5s and it works OK, however I would like to geta global ROM o CM ROM.
From Xiaomi i just have a router, Miwifi X-R1D...
I could assure you, they build inovative hardware, they pay atention to details and quality even under the wood (where generally no one look).
Software is where they suck. They know how to program, designed a complete inovative interface for their routers, and a set of programs/plugins/addons to extend funcionallity (torrents, cloud, mobile app, etc).
But i love freedom, first freedom of speech, they release everything in chinese, you have to use google translate or use a someone's translated version of firmware and mobile app, etc... (yes i know they are chinese vendors only)
Second, freedom to use whatever i think is better, for example, you install their torrent addon, your are stick to their client ("thunder" whatever).
Third, security, no one shoud trust personal data with this kind of "automated" router. I'm not saying they're stealing i just cannot trust on a beatiful interface doing something under the surface.
I'll give you an example, i've installed their mobile app, one day after my mobile photos are on router's hdd.
Of course we can assume this is an app option and have positives, but hey, disabled or not this thing it's also connected to their "kingsoft cloud"!
The solution was to install a tomato firmware where you really take control of everything.
With Xiaomi mobiles we are almost at the same page, you buy a phone without released sources, locked bootloader and a Chinese/English Miui Rom with an app store of their own.
Of course we could always install google play store, and if we could wait a Global Miui Rom (multilanguage) is generally available.
If we want something different, we have to request authorization to unlock the bootloader, then wait 6 months to a not guaranteed released source and then a power user with time and knowledge to a maybe CM official rom.
There are so much maybes that i think It would be better to assume they want this as Miui only, and if you buy it you should agree with.
BPSoft said:
From Xiaomi i just have a router, Miwifi X-R1D...
I could assure you, they build inovative hardware, they pay atention to details and quality even under the wood (where generally no one look).
Software is where they suck. They know how to program, designed a complete inovative interface for their routers, and a set of programs/plugins/addons to extend funcionallity (torrents, cloud, mobile app, etc).
But i love freedom, first freedom of speech, they release everything in chinese, you have to use google translate or use a someone's translated version of firmware and mobile app, etc... (yes i know they are chinese vendors only)
Second, freedom to use whatever i think is better, for example, you install their torrent addon, your are stick to their client ("thunder" whatever).
Third, security, no one shoud trust personal data with this kind of "automated" router. I'm not saying they're stealing i just cannot trust on a beatiful interface doing something under the surface.
I'll give you an example, i've installed their mobile app, one day after my mobile photos are on router's hdd.
Of course we can assume this is an app option and have positives, but hey, disabled or not this thing it's also connected to their "kingsoft cloud"!
The solution was to install a tomato firmware where you really take control of everything.
With Xiaomi mobiles we are almost at the same page, you buy a phone without released sources, locked bootloader and a Chinese/English Miui Rom with an app store of their own.
Of course we could always install google play store, and if we could wait a Global Miui Rom (multilanguage) is generally available.
If we want something different, we have to request authorization to unlock the bootloader, then wait 6 months to a not guaranteed released source and then a power user with time and knowledge to a maybe CM official rom.
There are so much maybes that i think It would be better to assume they want this as Miui only, and if you buy it you should agree with.
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Well explained mate
Introductions ::
Hello there, and welcome to my review of the DOOGEE x30 (32-bit – not L) smartphone! As a casual technology enthusiast, this sort of product truly fuels my interest in the mobile device industry. Manufacturers, like DOOGEE, constantly raise the bar of expectancy-vs-price, by either introducing highly sought-after features to cheaper devices or creating entirely new features that are then introduced through the budget market first. This practice of constantly improving the developing the low-end market makes for an interesting show when one goes to observe the ripples that this creates in the mobile device market as a while. These manufacturers, when they get the formula just right, create devices that can competently perform at a low price point, while displaying very little compromise in overall design, features, and quality. As such, I find the budget market to be an important part of the general mobile device market(place).
Now, for a bit of personal background. This is my third smartphone from DOOGEE, which means that I have a slight, inherent bias. However, I will do my best to curb such, for the sake of an honest and fair assessment of the device in question. I will start with the un-boxing experience, and move forward from there in a semi-natural progression, if you will. The included clips will (unfortunately) be presented in 720p30fps - not true HD. But, it should get the un-boxing experience across in a satisfactory manner - I hope.
Specs ::
Can be found here.
Un-Boxing ::
approx. 15 minutes long
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI_cLORLc24
* Please note that the first part (the un-boxing) is still being processed, and the second part (the actual review) will be uploaded later this week (and hopefully, in a higher resolution). I hope you all are enjoying your winter holiday this year
Review ::
There is none - it's ded
Pros ::
The CPU is an MTK 6580, which is clocked at 1.3GHz - a decent CPU for this SoC, although 32-bit.*
This phone comes with 2GB of LPDDR3 RAM, which is better than what many other budget smartphones come with (less than 1GB in many cases). In fact, this SoC could be packed with up to 4GB of RAM if they wanted…
The 4-sensor Camera system truly sets this device apart from the competition in terms of photographic capabilities at this price-point (60-100 USD). They record at 5mp and 8mp respectively, meaning that the maximum resolution you can get for an image (from the rear cameras) is 3264 x 2448. Pretty nice for a sub-100 USD smartphone...
The metal frame also helps in terms of durability, and even adds to the overall visual appeal of the phone’s design.
The curved body makes it easy to hold, and ergonomically pleasing to the average user. No pain in the palms to speak of
The phone comes with Android 7, which is a great move - Android 8 is here, and DOOGEE can push an update whenever they’re ready. In addition to that (assuming that DOOGEE does update this phone), it gives users the option to decide on whether or not to move on to 8 - software options. But, while you’re waiting, you can play around with Quick Settings Customization - which is another plus.
This phone comes with 16GB of internal storage as an entry model, in opposed to 8GB (as seen in past models like the x5 and x6). This move is definitely one in the right direction…
The software that comes installed on this device initially appears quite close to stock (Google Apps and all - beyond AOSP) Android, which is great for those of you who want more control over the experience, or a simpler experience when using Android. It’s pretty difficult to spot most of the differences and deviations...
Cons ::
This model’s CPU is 32-bit, which limits the RAM and apps that can be used on this device. As such, it won’t be able to use any software that requires a 64-bit* architecture or more than 4GB of RAM. Remember the x5 Pro and x6 Pro models?
The RAM speed on this device is only 533MHz, which leaves it feeling like low-price DDR2/LPDDR2 (at around 500-600MHz), in opposed to the LPDDR3 it’s actually packing, which (in theory) can reach speeds of around 800MHz.
The Mali GPU included on this SoC is only 2 cores*, which is a bit underwhelming for obvious reasons. A higher clock speed could have helped this a bit.
It comes with some unnecessary apps, which can’t be completely removed without rooting. This needlessly reduces the amount of free storage space on the device. What’s up with the cat hanging from the top of the screen?! The approach used on the x5 and x6 Pro models should be used on this device instead.
It’s theme, while small in terms of performance impact, is an unnecessary and non-innovative deviation from a simpler Google/AOSP UI experience. Once again, the approach used on the x5 and x6 Pro models should be used on this device instead.
The screen, while being HD-Ready, is of the 720p/1080i variety - not the Full HD (1080p) that many have come to expect from their smartphones nowadays. But, this isn’t too much to bare.
The camera(s) only record at 5mp and 8mp respectively, meaning that the maximum resolution you can ever get for an image (from the rear cameras) is 3264 x 2448. While still images are quite nice, video recordings are locked in at 30fps, and may actually be at a lower resolution still.
This device can only receive so much expansion via the SD card slot - 32GB to be exact.
The SoC on this model doesn’t offer 4G(LTE)* capabilities, Bluetooth 5, NFC, or Wireless Charging.
It’s USB 2.0, instead of 3.0. An upgrade to 3.0 would have been nice...
Not so sure about how honest DOOGEE is about the camera.
Some apps I would remove (if I could) include:
Torch*
Themes **
System Manager**
File Manager**
DOOGEE ?
Chrome *g
* Integrate this feature into the Quick Settings - no need for another app
** Can be handled better with 3rd party apps
*g Have better counterparts that are developed by Google, and should be decided on by the user
? What does this app do?! I don’t remember it being around on the older models...
Conclusion ::
Overall, I think that this device is quite nicely-made for this price (60-70 USD), but could be improved upon a bit. While being a worthy successor to the single-digit x-models, I also think that there should be a higher-end model available, for those of us who are willing to pay to have many of these issues alleviated (around say, 100 USD - like last time). In addition to this, from having had the x5 Pro and x6 Pro models, I can’t help but feel just a bit let down this time around. Yet, there isn’t an x30 Pro. Perhaps the x30L* would answer the call? Although, I haven’t been able to find the darned thing, for sale, anywhere!
Overall Rating: 7.0/10
Bottom Line;
Good show, DOOGEE. You do have some places where you can improve. But, I can’t wait to see what you come up with next...
I actually purchased this phone for the mother-in-law. It literally just arrived today. Off the top, it's a very nice phone, especially for the sub-$70 I paid for it. I'm going to be working with this in-depth over the next few days in order to customize it (and see what tricks I can find). I'll report back when I'm done.
UPDATE: Just got this TWRP'd and rooted. Now I can see what this thing can do. :good:
Here we go!...
Bratzilla said:
I actually purchased this phone for the mother-in-law. It literally just arrived today. Off the top, it's a very nice phone, especially for the sub-$70 I paid for it. I'm going to be working with this in-depth over the next few days in order to customize it (and see what tricks I can find). I'll report back when I'm done.
UPDATE: Just got this TWRP'd and rooted. Now I can see what this thing can do. :good:
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I'll be uploading a review of it this week!
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I'll be uploading a review of it this week!
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Good to hear! I enjoy reviews of these smaller brands. Not everyone can afford a Note 8 cash-out.
I got a few more technical notes. Apologies if I ramble a bit, but I wanted to get this listed so that I don't forget. (Please let me know if you want me to post my root method as I don't want to hijack your thread. I didn't see any other threads pertinent to this phone posted yet.) These notes have to do with modding the phone and how it behaved for me afterwards.
As mentioned earlier, I rooted this phone after playing with the stock version a bit. A note about rooting - there are several posts online that mention rooting via SP Flash Tool. I never got this to work for me. Instead, using ADB and the TWRP version for this phone did the job (there is a trick in doing so as the install wasn't quite so straightforward). Once TWRP was installed, flashing SuperSU went as usual. Root Checker confirmed that root did take.
Custom recovery was possible because Doogee X30's flavor of Nougat 7.0 (which btw this phone has one of the few maker-created launchers that I pretty much like) contains a switch in Settings that allows you to make the bootloader unlockable. A quick run through ADB to actually do the unlocking worked perfectly. However, I now have a "Status Orange" message upon boot-up that claims the phone is now unsafe due to the bootloader unlock. But this doesn't seem to adversely impact operation (at least nothing obvious has presented itself) - very similar to the message I got when I did the same thing to the Galaxy Note 4.
I was able to use Kernel Auditor to do thinks like speed up the CPU and enable init.d (one of the requirements to get Viper4Android to work). CPU tweaks substantially enhanced this phone's performance.
Once rooted, customization became relatively easy. I targeted my usual apps to enhance the phone. SELinux Switcher, Adaway, BusyBox, Kernel Auditor (to tweak CPU performance and enable init.d), and Viper4Android (the package that includes Sony + Dolby Atmos). Rooted apps are all performing as expected.
The factory launcher is surprisingly lite and simple, and I did enjoy it. I would have kept it for the MIL, but I didn't see any obvious way to change the icon set so I went with Evie Launcher (if you see a way, though, please let me know). So far, Evie is working quite nicely.
Wifi speeds are pretty good for a phone in this class; I have no complaints. For cell data, based on the radios supported, this phone can only work at 3G/HSPA+ as there is no LTE radio. However I'll better be able to speak on that once I put in her SIM card and really give this a twirl on AT&T towers.
With the right modifications, I'd say this phone performs similar to those with a much higher pay point. Of course it's nothing near flagship level. However, for the amount of RAM and on-board storage, SD card support, headphone jack and REMOVABLE battery - I'd say this phone is a pretty sweet deal especially for people who just cannot or do not want to spend $$$ for a bunch of features they don't need. Plus if you break this sucker, you're not gonna cry over it. Just save up a few In-and-Out combos in a piggy bank and you can buy another one.
Oh yeah - one final note. Regarding cases, unless you want to pay Amazon's ridiculously jacked-up prices, it's best to order one through eBay from overseas. I got the pleather wallet model and it looks pretty decent. Just saw there is now a genuine full-leather one also on eBay.
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Oh darn it! I just saw that you wanted to remove some system apps. Once rooted, there are apps in Playstore that should let you do just that.
In fact, thanks for that list. I'll check these out and see which ones I can dump. Is Themes tied to the launcher? If so, I may not touch it to avoid problems later. Speaking of Theme - that effing hanging cat can be turned off in the stock launcher settings. There is actually a switch for it. Sooooo annoying!
And your rating is very close to what others are giving (low to mid 7s), so it looks like your instincts are quite on the money.
Just added the first video. Once again, I'm kinda wishing that my dedicated camera was still operational (Nikon COOLPIX), but it stopped working a few months back. I had no option but the Nexus 7 camera (again). I've been using it as my camera for most of my videos where it isn't screen cap.
care to expand on TWRP rooting?!
(there is a trick in doing so as the install wasn't quite so straightforward)
For those wondering how to root this phone, its actually pretty simple. THIS WILL ERASE EVERYTHING.
Assuming you know some basic adb commands..
You wanna start off with making sure your bootloader is unlocked, which can be done fairly easily with ADB tools.
Don't be alarmed when your phone resets a couple times, its erasing data and reformating.
Once your bootloader is unlocked and your phone restarts, remember to reenable USB debugging. and then go to fastboot mode again to flash our recovery.
(I used the recovery link listed in the SUflash method that comes up when googling 'x30 doogee root')
Once our recovery is installed, we'll wanna put the latest version of SuperSU (Make sure its the zip, not the apk) onto your phone/SD card. Boot into recovery, and install SuperSU through TWRP.
Congratz, you've succesfully rooted your X30
Tested and verified on mine. Sorry I could not include links, do not have enough posts. Just wanted to be of assistance!
This device (unfortunately) actually sort needs root to even feel at-home with. Which is sad, because the x5 Pro and x6 Pro weren't like that. I rooted them advanced purposes - not to get them to a decent state...
Help me please!
I stuck my phone in TWRP can you send me a copy of your recovery?
VeteranoX said:
I stuck my phone in TWRP can you send me a copy of your recovery?
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I unfortunately don't have the device anymore
i was thinking about buying this phone for my mom.
she needs it for basic tasks.
does stock software has alots of bloat?
is battery life good?
is battery removable?
is it easy to unlock bootloader and flash custom rom?
any thoughts?
is battery removable?
NO
is it easy to unlock bootloader and flash custom rom?
not easy，you can unlock this device 360hours later, then you can unlock bootloader
i flashed crDroid 4.2(8.1)
If you want more support and active communities, go for the 4A. But if you just want a simple phone for simple usage, with an extra dedicated microSD slot with full dual sim support yeah stick with 5A.
About is it easy to unlock the bootloader and flash custom roms, no it's not. Redmi 4 and above now has sophisticated bootloaders which are pretty hard to break (see the link about bypassing 5A bootloaders in the general section). If you're really targeting to unlock and slap custom roms, go for 4A. Identical in everyway possible to 5A, has extra battery power, but it doesn't have a dedicated MicroSD slot (hybrid tray).
Now days, nearly every handheld device has non-removable batteries. About battery life? Depends on usage. For the specs and price, the battery does hold very well.
Yes stock has pretty much some bloatwares that causes some battery drainage, but it's not as bad as it looks. Have you ever had a Xiaomi device? I mean if you do, you'll pretty much know whats inside a stock MIUI ROM.
Overall, I'm so satisfied by 5A, a budget phone done right. With or without customization (I had to wait for fifteen days b4 unlocking, and still stock experience with MIUI was better than my old Redmi phones: Redmi 1s & Redmi 2 prime).
Hello
My phone is oneplus 7t pro, im looking forward to get redmagic, but i have some questions
-How is the phone overall for everyday use (main use not for gaming mainly)?
-should i get 5g or 5s?, i learned that they removed the L shaped cable + the 55w adapter from the 5s
-how is the phone dev support, i dont need much actually as like my op7tp stock rom rooted with my modifications
Do u advice getting this phone or stay with the op7tp
Thank u
Nightf0x_007 said:
Hello
My phone is oneplus 7t pro, im looking forward to get redmagic, but i have some questions
-How is the phone overall for everyday use (main use not for gaming mainly)?
-should i get 5g or 5s?, i learned that they removed the L shaped cable + the 55w adapter from the 5s
-how is the phone dev support, i dont need much actually as like my op7tp stock rom rooted with my modifications
Do u advice getting this phone or stay with the op7tp
Thank u
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Op7t is a good phone already. Personally if i had that phone i'd keep it as is, if you jist plan to use it for phone, browsing, youtube, etc you're not gaining anything.
But benefits of the phone are.
- UFS 3.1
- more ram
- better benchmarks if thats your thing
- excellent gaming
-crazy long range wifi
- 144hz refresh rate ( again if thats your thing) i use 60 to 90hz
- has a fricken cooling fan built in.
The rom is surprisingly stable and seems to work well.
For android 10 there is a bootloader bypass, that allows you to root and install custom recovery without unlocking your bootloader ( unlocking bootloader corrupts your fingerprint reader)
There is already a official beta for android 11, it has a few battery bugs but should be fixed soon, with a global release a few weeks after china official release.
Now not so much.
- not water proof at all. ( There is literally two huge holes on either side for the fan) water = paperweight
- camera post processing could be better
-limited 5G supported bands ( be mindful the 5g does not work great everywhere, and it only has a few bands to support so check eith your current and local Service providors for 5g signal info.
Overall its a great phone. Worth it if you not fussed over 5g support, and the fact its not IP rated at all.
Replacing an already decent phone thsts up to you i replaced a 6 year old phone for it so it was worth it to me.
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Op7t is a good phone already. Personally if i had that phone i'd keep it as is, if you jist plan to use it for phone, browsing, youtube, etc you're not gaining anything.
But benefits of the phone are.
- UFS 3.1
- more ram
- better benchmarks if thats your thing
- excellent gaming
-crazy long range wifi
- 144hz refresh rate ( again if thats your thing) i use 60 to 90hz
- has a fricken cooling fan built in.
The rom is surprisingly stable and seems to work well.
For android 10 there is a bootloader bypass, that allows you to root and install custom recovery without unlocking your bootloader ( unlocking bootloader corrupts your fingerprint reader)
There is already a official beta for android 11, it has a few battery bugs but should be fixed soon, with a global release a few weeks after china official release.
Now not so much.
- not water proof at all. ( There is literally two huge holes on either side for the fan) water = paperweight
- camera post processing could be better
-limited 5G supported bands ( be mindful the 5g does not work great everywhere, and it only has a few bands to support so check eith your current and local Service providors for 5g signal info.
Overall its a great phone. Worth it if you not fussed over 5g support, and the fact its not IP rated at all.
Replacing an already decent phone thsts up to you i replaced a 6 year old phone for it so it was worth it to me.
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My main reason behind the idea of changing is because that my op7tp battery degraded also much its now 85% battery health, and there is no any op support here in the country where i stay in so thats why im thinking about a change
If you want a game solely for gaming features, then it is a great phone. I wouldn’t use it for daily use as my primary phone though.
The software is not great for everyday use. I get regular restarts and cant share screen captures, laggy when swapping between open apps after using for a while. Call quality is not great, everyone has trouble hearing me no matter what app I use for making the calls, including video calls. I wouldnt say the high refresh screen is any better than my huawei mate 20pro or note 9.
I wont use mine anymore, it was a waste of money as I didnt buy it for gaming. Because of the software issues i wouldn't even give it to my kids.
I just updated to OOS12 but it's really bull$hit.
OOS 11 is also lousy upgrade. Both versions are not improve anything but lost many things.
What's they wanna do man!?
I'm thinking if they want us to switch to Coloros, so they did thats why they build last 2 versions of OOS look like China ROM. No, I will choose to throw away Oneplus Phone in the trash and never use China ROM
Please help me to revert to OOS10 on Oneplus 9 Pro. Many thank you guys!
Erhm... I hate to be the bringer of bad news but you might want to ready the trash can because the 9 Pro never ran and can't run Oxygen OS 10. Your best bet is a custom ROM
However, if you want to revert to 11 you can always use the MSM download tool:
OP9Pro - Repository of MSM Unbrick Tools (TMO, EU, GLO, IN)
By using these tools, you accept full responsibility for your actions. Your warranty is void should you run any of these utilities without OnePlus support present. I am not responsible for bricks, fires, nuclear war, etc. If you modified any...
forum.xda-developers.com
Just keep in mind that if you do go back you're out of luck when it comes to security patches
Lemme know where your trashcan is.. because OnePlus is the best phone company on the market.
More reasons than you can imagine.
- Price
- Technology
- Hardware (most phones can't even handle running PuBG without overheating and damaging the battery)
I run PuBG, while streaming on 3 platforms no problem.
- The smoothness of Stock Rom, not even other Roms run as good. Maybe more customization, but that's it.
- Oh I did I mention price, price, price.
- There Customer Service,
- Even repair service.
So lemme know where the trashcan is please, thanks.
That or whatever your paypal or cashapp is to buy it from you!
Edit: After trying to use it for the last day I'm just baffled by how this even got released. Hands down the worst update OnePlus has ever pushed out. I'm so happy I don't have to continue using it. Unlike what was reported by XDA, a factory reset does not resolve most of the bugs I ran into
Here are a few:
- Very bad reception on ATT
- No disable button for a number of apps
- Slow and shoddy animations
- No hyper touch
- Statusbar icons are confusing to me sometimes because it looks like they overlap
- The camera app is harder to use
- No circle battery icon. The stock one is harder for me to read
- Display scaling and font scaling are highly inconsistent. I constantly have to change them
- Battery life is poor compared to 11. I went from 7-8 hours to 5-6 of SOT
- Shelf is much worse
And the list goes on
Well, their software is getting more and more bloated as time goes on. It's hard to say how much of this is standard Android/Google crap and how much is Oneplus-specific, but when I went from Android 9 on my Oneplus 3T to Android 11 on Oneplus 9 I didn't even get ANY extra free RAM, despite the new phone having 2GB extra RAM(6->8). My 3T hovers around 4.5GB free after I trimmed running processes (disable though ADB), while my 9 hovers around 4.2GB... I could probably trim the 9 a bit more, but I'm certain I won't get more RAM than the 3T, it'll be equal at best.
It's ridiculous when you get less RAM after upgrading
Corect title is :
What is google doing to Oxygen OS ?