If you're like me and only intended to change the battery in order to keep it going for a bit longer or bought it 2nd hand then think again. There's a high likelyhood of it having a bad wifi chip in both the S8 and S9 which'll drain the battery like crazy if you have the Exynos variant. And this can easily be tested by just downloading something heavy and turning off wifi to see battery usage drop from 3-6W down to <400mW with something like Accubattery or your fav battery monitoring tool (i.e EX KM or whathaveyou).
I thought I was crazy at first since the CPU was maxing out (or close to) for no apparent reason when I was just refreshing my reading app, but it turns out it's the WiFi IC that is at fault. It didn't go bad during my first 2 years but around 2021 I started having issues so I switched my DD to my XZ2 and only kept my S9 as a backup unit.
Now obviously the other telltale sign is that the phone will overheat and drain the battery rather fast which I always thought was just the Exynos being Exynos but it's actually the Wifi chip. I got an Xperia XZ1/2 as well were the WiFI IC is part of the SOC so there's no actual issue there since Qualcomm make their own chips for everything more or less. If you've ever had a Broadcom moment then you know what you're up against.
I feel sad for letting this device go since it was my fav phone for so long but it's finally time to say goodbye since RAM has become the next issue on my list.
Does it happen in safe mode?
Guess you already tried a network reset and clearing the system cache?
It happens regardless of what I do but it's not the first time I've had issues like these. And anyone with broadcom experience will know exactly what I'm talking about.
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Hello guys,
I'm thinking of buying the LG g3 which for me is the best phone right now. However, I have seen it has some bugs regarding overheating, WiFi drop, bad battery life etc.. Do you think it is still worth it or should I go for a Z2 which has the same price in my country (Spain). Regarding the overheating issue, a lot of people say they have it and a lot of people say they don't... Is This just chance or is it linked to a specific model and version?
Thanks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1aqQQwFEgQ&list=UUO_vmeInQm5Z6dEZ6R5Kk0A
Watch that and make your own mind up - this is the opinion of Pocketnow - 3 months after launch.
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Hello guys,
I'm thinking of buying the LG g3 which for me is the best phone right now. However, I have seen it has some bugs regarding overheating, WiFi drop, bad battery life etc.. Do you think it is still worth it or should I go for a Z2 which has the same price in my country (Spain). Regarding the overheating issue, a lot of people say they have it and a lot of people say they don't... Is This just chance or is it linked to a specific model and version?
Thanks
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As the overheating, since I upgraded to v10L firmware, overheating issues it completely gone for me, even after 40 minutes of playing Real Racing 3 on max detail mod or Dead Trigger 2 for about half an hour. It still heats just like every other device ( HTC, Samsung or Sony) but it doesn't get to extreme temperatures which turn off your phone automatically. What are those other bugs you are refering to?
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As the overheating, since I upgraded to v10L firmware, overheating issues it completely gone for me, even after 40 minutes of playing Real Racing 3 on max detail mod or Dead Trigger 2 for about half an hour. It still heats just like every other device ( HTC, Samsung or Sony) but it doesn't get to extreme temperatures which turn off your phone automatically. What are those other bugs you are refering to?
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I saw some people had problems with random rebooting of the phone
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I saw some people had problems with random rebooting of the phone
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I have my LG G3 for 2 months now and I never experienced any random reboot,except for 2 times when it said the reason was extreme temperature, but that got away after updating firmware and never happened again. But it was only when I had first firmware. I also use ART as runtime which is considered to be buggier and more "app crashy" than Dalvik, but I never got any crash or random reboot.. Usage of unoptimized apps can random reboot any phone. As for LG software, LG's apps and the most common and most widely used apps work perfectly without any hiccup. You should never experience any error, crash or random reboot. At least I didn't. Always try to use trusted and well optimized apps if you want the best experience. Also don't install any battery or RAM cleaning apps, that **** just slows down your phone and drain your battery rapidly. It depends on you if your phone will random reboot or not. It's not just LG thing, it also concerns HTC, Sony, Samsung or any other manufacturer. You can ask my sister, she installed few cleaners, RAM boosters, 1 optimizer and 2 battery boosters on new Nexus 7 which should be most stable Android experience, but her battery life got worse and she does often get random reboot. So treat your phone well and it won't random reboot anytime
so i just upgraded from a galaxy s3 to the s6 and after a day ive noticed that the battery on the watch is draining a lot slower.
im guessing this is because the s6 uses a more efficient bluetooth standard?
no, afaik the watch does not use low energy mode. If I wanted to make a quick guess It would be the phone is responding to request like weather (which does a location check) faster. Also I am sure lolipop on the phone helped in some way.
It could also be because you had to resync everything for the new phone. I've heard that resyncing can help with battery life (probably clearing out unneeded old junk data or something) so that's a possibility too.
if you will use the phone with old bluetooth version it will work less time on battery, s6 is have fresh version of bluetooth so there is a small chance that it will work a bit longer
after a weekend of use im amazed. the battery life of the watch is probably doubled. the new phone is even better
it definitely wasnt a memory leak or anything that a wipe would have fixed as i had wiped it multiple times before. also i had lollipop on the gs3.
eldar, the s3 uses bluetooth 4.0, does not support LE. Unfortunately I searched again and I can't come away with a definet yes or no on if android wear actually uses LE. LE is fine for heartbeats (tiny transmissions that happen constantly) but is to slow for things like sending voice, watchfaces, apps that rely on any graphic data from the phone. When pebble eventually started beta testing LE connections on the iOS platform (so ironic now considering how apple is snubbing em now) people were complaining how there was large delays on notifications like call rings and text messages. I am fairly certain the LE code never made it to the android side. Just my experience.
according to the specs for the 360 posted on android central it does have le
http://www.androidcentral.com/moto-360-specs
I wouldn't be surprised if the phone simply has better Bluetooth range/power/connection. One day recently I was flying and had my phone on airplane pretty much the whole day, but forgot to airplane the watch. I got TERRIBLE battery life for that day, presumably because the watch was constantly trying to contact the phone (similar to how your phone battery will die if you're somewhere without cell signal and it's blasting out trying to reach a tower)? Not sure if there's any merit to that, but if so then that might explain it.
I'm not sure where else to put this (I searched and found nothing) but has anyone else been impressed by this phones ability to remain cool to the touch? I'm using the stock case that came with the US variant of the phone and aside from an APN issue where signals were going insane and the radio tried to connect to a billion different towers, I have not once noticed the phone getting much above ambient temperature.
Is this normal? Can anyone else confirm that this thing just doesn't get hot?
I'm bringing this up because I've owned/used around 30 different smartphones from all of the major manufacturers and the vast majority get quite warm during several normal tasks.
For instance, on most phones I've used, if the brightness is up and I'm gaming for any extended period of time the phone will get quite warm. If I'm charging and browsing the web, most phones will warm right up. If I'm gaming and charging at the same time, things get toasty. If I'm gaming and quickcharging/turbocharging things get pretty bad. If I'm gaming on a "practically magic" iPhone while it's charging- forget about it. Same goes for most phones and video recording.
The Le Pro 3 has remained completely usable during all of those tasks. It's actually downright creepy being able to heavily game on full brightness while quickcharging without my fingertip being on fire within a few minutes.
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I'm not sure where else to put this (I searched and found nothing) but has anyone else been impressed by this phones ability to remain cool to the touch? I'm using the stock case that came with the US variant of the phone and aside from an APN issue where signals were going insane and the radio tried to connect to a billion different towers, I have not once noticed the phone getting much above ambient temperature.
Is this normal? Can anyone else confirm that this thing just doesn't get hot?
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This is supposed to be the benefit of the Snapdragon 821 processor; fast but at the same time power efficient....
I hear you. Playing Pokemon Go with a Pro 3 is smooth and cool, I can say that playing for about 10 minutes straight and it gets warm, but not hot. Unlike playing it with my One Plus One, a 5 minute session and it gets hot. This phone totally surprised me :good:
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This is supposed to be the benefit of the Snapdragon 821 processor; fast but at the same time power efficient....
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Obviously they've made strides, but its not just the chipset. Reviews of the pixel, ZTE and Asus 821 phone all mention how the 821 is better than 820 (lol, as in it can't cook an egg) but they all say it gets warm and the pixels seem to have significant heat issues.
The battery isn't getting massively hot even under quick charge despite being enormous and charging very quickly for its size. The screen doesn't seem to emit much heat either though it's not some AMOLED qhd monster but still. I mean it's obvious that the CPU is right below the fingerprint reader as it does get warm but nothing even gets what I'd consider hot especially for a modern flagshipish smartphone.
I've used supposedly power sipping/efficient chipset before as well as stuff like the original moto x which was literally a heat bomb and none of them have done so well. I'm sure it's not the actual best temperature that a phone has ever been but it's like night and day for me!
Kudos to Qualcomm or LeEco or the battery manufacturer or the screen supplier- they all seem to have gotten it right with regards to heat and efficiency.
I even have the speed up box enabled for all relevant apps and have turned off most power saving stuff and the phone is still cooler than every modern smartphone phone I've used including hugely underpowered ones.
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...aside from an APN issue where signals were going insane and the radio tried to connect to a billion different towers,
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I had a same problem but after moving to CM, no such issues.
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I had a same problem but after moving to CM, no such issues.
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Good to know, if anyone else has this issue - mine was deleting T-Mobiles default APN and making a MetroPCS one (incorrectly), then deleting that and having it automatically revert back to T-Mobile. Once I cleared everything and manually put Metros APN stuff correctly everything cleared up and has been fine since.
But during that half morning when I couldn't figure out the issue my Pro3 was getting quite warm and I was ready to return the thing. The issue remained even after a factory reset until I manually adjusted the APN.
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Good to know, if anyone else has this issue - mine was deleting T-Mobiles default APN and making a MetroPCS one (incorrectly), then deleting that and having it automatically revert back to T-Mobile. Once I cleared everything and manually put Metros APN stuff correctly everything cleared up and has been fine since.
But during that half morning when I couldn't figure out the issue my Pro3 was getting quite warm and I was ready to return the thing. The issue remained even after a factory reset until I manually adjusted the APN.
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My situation was different then. APN was fine but it somehow kept frequently switching LTE bands/towers my carrier offer which caused ever frequent signal fluctuation.
Nothing could fix it until I moved to CM.
I have a P3XL that's roughly 1 year old. It's seriously slow and laggy and stutters like none other. If i'm in Chrome and browsing reddit, it can crash from having a long page of images open. Using simultaneous apps like Spotify and Instagram kills the phone. I was using flashlight and making a call at the same time and it crashed.
I originally used stock, that was the same. Switched to Havoc OS and it's pretty much the same. I can only guess this is from poor RAM management. Battery life is crap now too. Doesn't last me till 6:00PM on a low usage day.
Any ROM suggestions? Or is there something here i'm missing? 4GB should be enough... the P2XL was absolutely fine but this is atrocious. I frequently want to toss this device across the room.
You may have a bad battery which is causing voltage/amperage problems and glitching. If you've already done a fresh clean install of the factory OS and still have issues that'd be my next guess.
Did you regularly run it below 20% or until dead?
Yeah I gotta say that sounds a battery issue or something else going on. I've been running stock Android 9 rooted with Kira kernel for about half a year now and although there is still a lot of reloading (especially when using chrome or internet browsers with lot of tabs open) it's still snappy and reloads quick. I've never had anything crash.
Unfortunately I have no clue how to test a battery for proper amperage. I know 2 ways to get an estimate on capacity with accubattery and extracting it from a bug report but I don't know if that will help with identify it or not.
It sounds almost identical to the same issue I had with my LG V20 which was a bad battery that would randomly shut down with around 15-25% capacity left when it got that low and when I changed the battery it fixed it
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You may have a bad battery which is causing voltage/amperage problems and glitching. If you've already done a fresh clean install of the factory OS and still have issues that'd be my next guess.
Did you regularly run it below 20% or until dead?
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I guess it could be a bad battery causing voltage issues. I have done a fresh clean install of factory OS, and still have issues. I would say i'm average when it comes to running it below 20%. I don't do that often, but sometimes it does. I rarely let it die completely.
Best scenario would be to go through Google Support?
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Yeah I gotta say that sounds a battery issue or something else going on. I've been running stock Android 9 rooted with Kira kernel for about half a year now and although there is still a lot of reloading (especially when using chrome or internet browsers with lot of tabs open) it's still snappy and reloads quick. I've never had anything crash.
Unfortunately I have no clue how to test a battery for proper amperage. I know 2 ways to get an estimate on capacity with accubattery and extracting it from a bug report but I don't know if that will help with identify it or not.
It sounds almost identical to the same issue I had with my LG V20 which was a bad battery that would randomly shut down with around 15-25% capacity left when it got that low and when I changed the battery it fixed it
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Yeah, mine is crashing hard. Hard enough that it's one of the poorest performance phones i've ever had. And that's saying a lot lol.
I'll try to use accubattery today to see what I get. It doesn't shut down at 15% thankfully.
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Yeah, mine is crashing hard. Hard enough that it's one of the poorest performance phones i've ever had. And that's saying a lot lol.
I'll try to use accubattery today to see what I get. It doesn't shut down at 15% thankfully.
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My V20 wouldn't always die at those ranges but it happened pretty frequently. Do you notice a difference with it plugged in?
I would definitely start from scratch if you really want to troubleshoot this. Backup everything then flash a stock system image from Google with the wipe all command and start from there and see. If it still does it then it is most likely a hardware issue.
Sounds more like a cache problem to me.....dodgy nand chip. Needs to be replaced no matter whats causing it. If you cant get rid of it after trying everything including swapping the active boot slot from a to be or vise versa
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Sounds more like a cache problem to me.....dodgy nand chip. Needs to be replaced no matter whats causing it. If you cant get rid of it after trying everything including swapping the active boot slot from a to be or vise versa
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Thanks for the suggestions and information. I'll try this. Thanks everyone else!
I'm on Android 13 and was hoping this would sort out the overheating problem I had with Android 12 (I read in a few places that it would), but it did not. The phone gets very warm when charging, and hot when streaming video, and just generally through simple use, nothing particularly demanding. I haven't rooted this phone because I did not see the need, but I would consider it if it was the only way to fix the problem. Is anyone experiencing the same, and does anyone have a solution?
I could be wrong but generally speaking in my experience, going from one major upgrade to another the phone works a bit harder to re-train itself to your use patterns. I just did my upgrade yesterday and experienced some slight to moderate heat as well. I also noticed that battery is draining a bit faster which I think again is part of the process. I'm going to give it a week or so and if I'm right it should improve.
I'm biased because I've had my Pixel 6 Pro rooted (and updated every month) since last November, and I also use Kirisakura custom kernel with its companion apps and currently have the one app set to the maximum battery savings.
So I can't really compare to 100% stock unrooted with the stock kernel, as I'm only briefly on the stock unrooted kernel each month after I manually flash the latest update.
Several others have commented, and I've experienced too, that with Android 13, we've no longer experienced as severe higher temperatures when charging. I don't remember if the others were rooted and using the same custom kernel, or if these were general Android 13 comments, so your mileage may vary. Sorry I can't give you any more concrete information.
Good luck!
Granted this is for my 4a5g but I wouln't be suprised if/when I get a 6 that its battery performance would be less than stellar after a good days use of phone and/or screen and radio/network. i.e. stock. Before I went to Lineage on my 4a5g I think my battery would cut a good 30-50+ percent each day. I put lineage on it and I poop you not, can go from a 75% to around 20% in about 5-6+ days. I tend to have my screen brightness around a little less than 1/4th on the slider bar.
When I had an HTC M8, after around 2 or so years (this was around 2016/7 or so. got phone oct '14) on the stock firmware the phone couln't keep it on for more than a day. Ran ViperRom for a bit then switched to cm/lineage and that stretched my usability of the phone another 5 years. It got to the point where the phone would shut off when it got to around %50 charge and go ding dong and turn off--without pluggin it in I had about 8 hours run time on it. My battery was beyond gone and no way would I have gotten that usability on the stock rom.
So, to answer your question, yes, trying different roms and kernels (rooting) could be to your advantage to prolong the life and performance of your phone.
Even if you choose to run the stock OS, with root, you could disble any bloat running in background. Kill any programs/services leeching CPU (and hence battery) cycles. You could definately make it run more efficient for YOU. Maybe not for the next guy who needs his facebook, twitter, ticktok apis and stuff loaded and at the ready. Everyone is different. But they tend to make the phones (they think) for everyone. in mind and as a result, device performance and lifespan become affected.
I definitely have heating issues and this is on a warranty exchange. The 2 previous P6Ps had all the same issues as this current device.
My phone was hot on A12 (41/45°) and since i clean flashed A13 and wiped it is cold (32/35°) for the same usage.
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Good topic.
I have bought this phone a day before. I'm facing device heating even under simple tasks like scrolling messengers, browsing etc.
Previously I had OnePlus 7 Pro (Snapdragon 855), that one was cold all time except while charging or playing games.
However, Pixel looks warm or even hot even upon light using.
I'm a bit confused about that.
Is it a common problem of this device? Or probably exactly my device is affected?
I haven't faced overheating or alerts about that, however, it feels hot for my hands that got used to feel a cold phone while low load.
Currently, I have about 37-38 degrees while browsing on XDA and writing this post.
Just wondering that digits you have?
I did a warranty exchange on my P6P for a different issue and I'm glad I did. My replacement device has much better thermals than my original. My original one would get quite hot while charging and restoring apps and was almost uncomfortable to hold and to the touch. Could always try a warranty exchange and see if the replacement device is better for you. Also, Kiri kernel has been reported to help with the thermals. I've seen several reports of users commenting that their device runs cooler. Good luck!
I had heating issues and battery issues when I first received my P6P. Once I got it out of the box, I set it up and restored backups, rooted it, updated to android 13 without wiping, rooted again, and then flashed the Kirisakura kernel. I decided to try and flash android 13 again but keeping the -w flag to wipe userdata and didnt restore my backups and I've had amazing battery life and no overheating. If you haven't yet, try doing a factory reset. As simple as it sounds it may very well help
My fully stock P6P (on A12) gave an overheat warning yesterday while we were having a day out, it was only 22°C although we were in and out of the sun as the clouds rolled by but the phone was showing 46°C after being sat in my pocket.
I think Google have released the worlds hottest running phone, i have never owned a phone that heats up so much and so fast.
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I think Google have released the worlds hottest running phone, i have never owned a phone that heats up so much and so fast.
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Try OnePlus 9 Pro
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Try OnePlus 9 Pro
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Thing is I have never experienced overheating on any phone (that i have owned) in UK before, using an Exynos as the basis of Tensor and then whacking an extra big core in it was a pretty bad idea unless you live in a fridge.