Hello all,
I've had problems with my former device after it being bootloader unlocked. I didn't try to relock the device though.
Now I got a new Xiaomi device based on Mediatek like 11t. In this instance, though, it comes with a global rom with a abhorrent suite of google apps.
I don't mind about google's messaging but the google's phone app is unusable for me. I'm hating even the intro page. (what I want is a secure dialler app that opens to a keypad while letting me search and find my contacts through the keypad, instead of using the full virtual keyboard.
From what I gather from the plethora of forum entries and youtube videos, I'm understanding Xiaomi side-stepped regulatory issues regarding the contact related apps by just simply offloading those with google's bad apps in many regions.
And I can only get to the old phone app (Xiaomi's) by loading Taiwanese, Indian, Chinese roms.
Chinese roms have a differing set of communication parameters with the network, so it's not suitable for me.
Xiaomi.Eu is simply a custom rom based on Chinese stocks, so it can't be re-locked after a fastboot install.
I have global stock miui 13 rom currently on my device.
So the lingering question for me is this:
After unlocking with Mi Unlock, I'll install stock Taiwanese rom to my device via fastboot method;
1- Then, would I be able to lock the bootloader (relock) again?
2- If yes, are there any risks involved or future crashes with the locked bootloader on a different stock rom, and would I be able to continue receiving OTA's for the particular taiwanese region stock rom?
If the answer 2nd question is "no", then there is no point in choosing taiwanese rom over Xiaomi.eu rom. Xiaomi.eu might just be better since it provides a semi-reasonable path for future sw updates.
If the answer for the 1st question is "no", then,
3- Am I be able to gain locked status again, provided I fastbooted and flashed the global stock rom in a future time?
katilkurt said:
Hello all,
I've had problems with my former device after it being bootloader unlocked. I didn't try to relock the device though.
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The 11T (AGATE)is intended for the global market so no Chinese rom.
Xiaomi Eu rom does not provide rom for this device.
You can relock the bootloader without any problem.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/flash-tool-guide-use-xiaomi-flash-tool.4262425/
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Hello,
I bought a 64gb version throw gearbest and they installed a vendors version 7.3.14.0.0 not oficial rom. With defeats the purpose of the bootloader being locked.
I want to install the original miui 8 china or miui 8 from xiaomi.eu.
If I unlock my bootloader by submitting the request to xiaomi what I lose? What are the disavantages?
Does the fingerprint reader works on a bootloader unlocked phone with official miui 8 china?
Does it work with xiaomi.eu rom?
What are the features that cease to work with an unlocked bootloader with these two roms?
If I install xiaomi.eu rom without unlock the bootloader using Doom Slayer method I must not update by OTA or I will brick it, right?
And oficial miui 8 can I update by OTA?
Sorry for these questions but is my first xiaomi with locked bootloader and don't want to screw up by not knowing the consequences of each method?
Thanks in advance
filtragem said:
Hello,
I bought a 64gb version throw gearbest and they installed a vendors version 7.3.14.0.0 not oficial rom. With defeats the purpose of the bootloader being locked.
I want to install the original miui 8 china or miui 8 from xiaomi.eu.
If I unlock my bootloader by submitting the request to xiaomi what I lose? What are the disavantages?
Does the fingerprint reader works on a bootloader unlocked phone with official miui 8 china?
Does it work with xiaomi.eu rom?
What are the features that cease to work with an unlocked bootloader with these two roms?
If I install xiaomi.eu rom without unlock the bootloader using Doom Slayer method I must not update by OTA or I will brick it, right?
And oficial miui 8 can I update by OTA?
Sorry for these questions but is my first xiaomi with locked bootloader and don't want to screw up by not knowing the consequences of each method?
Thanks in advance
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The fingerprint will work. But Find phone will not work and it will not be secure. But your phone will be less secure like if gets stolen anybody can flash firmware and you will be loser. With find my phone nobody could even flash firmware . I have got permission within 2 days for unlocking but i have not done but i have flashed chinese firmware by using miflash. the link is here http://en.miui.com/thread-326039-1-1.html. it is very safe that way.
seking said:
The fingerprint will work. But Find phone will not work and it will not be secure. But your phone will be less secure like if gets stolen anybody can flash firmware and you will be loser. With find my phone nobody could even flash firmware . I have got permission within 2 days for unlocking but i have not done but i have flashed chinese firmware by using miflash. the link is here http://en.miui.com/thread-326039-1-1.html. it is very safe that way.
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Security is not about flashing, is about protecting your data. Encryption makes phone more secure, not locked bootloader. We have ways to flash whatever we want with locked bootloader... how about that? Do you still fil secure?
Thank you both,
@seking for what I could understand this is the xiaomi.eu rom with even more stuff, right?
Do you have the helium version?
For that rom you just need the miflash to flash the rom via fastboot, right?
This is different from the Doom Slayer method because with it we fastboot the TWRP recovery and then use it to flash the xiaomi rom.
@nijel8, that is my question also the locked bootloader doesn't add security, gearbest flashed a custom rom even with it locked, so the security reason isn't a valid one.
Partition encrypting is only available when the bootloader is locked? If so that is one feature that is gone with unlocking.
If one unlock the bootloader can later lock it again?
With the bootloader locked we can't use miflash tool to flash fastboot rom, right? Only using EDL, and even then from what I could understand the system and data partition need to be formatted and that removes the encryption...
I just want to get rid of a rom that I don't know what is it and install a oficial rom or a rom from good sources like xiaomi.eu
After replace my rom can I update it by OTA or after I must update only by fastboot ot TWRP?
Thanks again
Bootloader status has nothing to do with encryption. Encryption always is a user option in any ROM... Not sure about MIUI though b/c they enforce encryption on both system and userdata partitions in ramdisk fstab so no user choice as far as I know. And yes... You can always lock bootloader back but will loose your data in process.
Not going to answer the second set of questions (see my signature ) not b/c I don't know but b/c never done it myself so yeah...
mi max is comparatively new phone. there are notnmany roms. development still new. therefore be careful of what you flash. for hardbrick solving we have to open the back cover which is risky. i have taken the safe mthod of not unlocking it. i flashed the rom on the locked rom with miflash via EDL. one can always flash the official rom through twrp and you will be safe.
Thanks a lot you two.
Trying to get the most information before doing something wrong.
Don't worry... Mi Max poves to be die hard phone...
Hi,
I'm looking to get one of these but the ones I can find are all Chinese versions, can I switch to the Global ROM without breaking anything / causing any issues with NFC... etc? I don't mind unlocking the device as long as it doesn't cause any problems (not worried about the warranty issue)
Any one know the answer?
If you don't have any problem unlocking the bootloader then there's no problem. Just unlock the bootloader and flash a custom ROM. If you want to use MIUI then flash Xiaomi.eu ROM.
If you use the official global rom, simply lock the phone afterwards again, to have a fully banking conform phone.
Hi All,
I did a silly thing, basically, bought a new phone which was supposed to be a Global model - we'll get to that in a minute...
Right from setting it up, I just felt that it wasn't right given that the Bootloader was already unlocked, so I decided to download the latest global fastboot rom and flash it via MiFlash (I've done this before plenty of times on RN3s and my Mi6...)
As this phone is for my mother in law, I thought it would be best to lock the bootloader back up, making it as 'stock as possible'.
Obviously, this is where things went wrong... Since reading around the web, I see now that it must actually be the chinese version of the phone and had the global rom flashed to it, but then you need to keep the bootloader unlocked?
Basically, I've tried all sorts, can't get anything other than ADB Sideload from recovery (Connect with MiAssistant) and fastboot obviously won't let me flash another rom now...
So my questions are :-
- Is EDL mode my only option? If so, is it a viable option considering all this stuff I'm reading about Anti-rollback and the fact that the current global rom that's flashed to the device is actually the very latest global stable so what Chinese rom do I go to from here?
- Is the absolute only way to get into EDL mode by disassembling the device and shorting the pins? (Redmi Note 3 used to have this power button/volume buttons sequence from power off state to get into EDL?)
- What's this EDL Auth stuff all about I'm seeing around the web and do I need to worry about it?
- Is there actually any fundamental differences in hardware with this being the Chinese model? Where I bought it from it was advertised as supporting Band 20 LTE for example, is this still the case?
In summary, am I right in thinking if I can actually get the China stable/dev rom flashed to it via EDL, I can then seek authority to unlock the bootloader, then flash the global rom again and leave the bootloader unlocked? Is this the right procedure?
** Also, just for info, this device hasn't been signed into yet with a Google account or a Mi Account so there's no Mi Account bound to it unfortunately
Thanks in advance!!!
From what i can understand about your situation,
You bought a phone which is chinese version but already on a global rom which is bootloader unlocked, and you just want to lock the bootloader.
My solution: Download the "RIGHT" fastboot global Rom version(OEIMIFA or NEIMIEK rom) for your phone via miflash and check "Clean all and Lock" to lock the bootloader.
Hello all,
As a consequence of a recent OTA update to MIUI 12.5.2, Google Play and Google apps ceased to work on my Redmi Note 8 Pro (begonia) CN version. In order to have them back again, I am considering switching to a stock ROM for the global version of the RN8Pro.
Does this sound like a reasonable plan?
Are there hardware differences between the CN version and the global version of the RN8Pro?
Can I go ahead and flash a global version ROM over a CN version ROM?
Would this allow me to install Google Play and Google apps on the RN8Pro?
Thanks!
You can. You are not asking for impossible. But it will cost you your data as your phone will be wiped in the process.
The procedure is Unlock bootloader -> Flash Global/EEA/Indonesia/Xiaomi.eu ROM (but the guys at xiaomi.eu stopped the development of the ROM long ago, so only ancient version of MIUI is available) OR even a custom ROM (wichever you like). You will find the corresponding tutorial in this device's forum.
@kekesed97: Thanks!
After a one-week wait (Xiaomi imposes this waiting period for bootloader unlocking), I was able to unlock the bootloader and flash a stock global ROM to my RN8Pro. Everything went fine. The phone was working perfectly, with its bootloader still unlocked.
Then I fell into a trap.
After reading about things that would not work on a phone with unlocked bootloader (Google Pay, banking apps, etc.), I decided to relock the bootloader of my RN8Pro. Did that by running "fastboot oem lock" on a PC connected to the phone.
Relocking the bootloader kind of bricked the phone. The RN8Pro is now stuck in the menu for "MIUI Recovery 5.0", with the following message at the bottom of the screen:
"This MIUI version can't be installed on this device"
Is there a way out of this trap?
reverbel said:
After a one-week wait (Xiaomi imposes this waiting period for bootloader unlocking), I was able to unlock the bootloader and flash a stock global ROM to my RN8Pro. Everything went fine. The phone was working perfectly, with its bootloader still unlocked.
Then I fell into a trap.
After reading about things that would not work on a phone with unlocked bootloader (Google Pay, banking apps, etc.), I decided to relock the bootloader of my RN8Pro. Did that by running "fastboot oem lock" on a PC connected to the phone.
Relocking the bootloader kind of bricked the phone. The RN8Pro is now stuck in the menu for "MIUI Recovery 5.0", with the following message at the bottom of the screen:
"This MIUI version can't be installed on this device"
Is there a way out of this trap?
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Some GooglePay and banking apps can be used after pass safetynet by doing something with Magisk. And you should read something about lock bootloader before doing that. China phone only can be locked with China Miui roms, by chose clean and lock on Miflashtool (best way to prevent brick). So if you want to do that, better downgrade to Miui 12.0.x to use Google apps and no more updates. And if anything else you want to be helped, join group on Telegram and get help.
Kirasu2080 said:
Some GooglePay and banking apps can be used after pass safetynet by doing something with Magisk. And you should read something about lock bootloader before doing that. China phone only can be locked with China Miui roms, by chose clean and lock on Miflashtool (best way to prevent brick). So if you want to do that, better downgrade to Miui 12.0.x to use Google apps and no more updates. And if anything else you want to be helped, join group on Telegram and get help.
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Thanks, @Kirasu2080. Now I see that I should have flashed a MIUI 12.0.x China version ROM, rather than a global ROM.
But I still don't see how to fix things... Since phone is stuck in recovery with its bootloader locked, it appears as there is no way for me to downgrade now.
reverbel said:
Thanks, @Kirasu2080. Now I see that I should have flashed a MIUI 12.0.x China version ROM, rather than a global ROM.
But I still don't see how to fix things... Since phone is stuck in recovery with its bootloader locked, it appears as there is no way for me to downgrade now.
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Use free unbrick hardbrick method for this. You can search Youtube videos, some solve problems, some not work, some make you lose Imei. That's why i told you join Telegram group for direct chat.
I have the global vesrsion of the Redmi note 8 pro. I want to flash the Euro version on it without unlocking the bootloader. Is this possible with the MiFlash tool?
reverbel said:
Thanks, @Kirasu2080. Now I see that I should have flashed a MIUI 12.0.x China version ROM, rather than a global ROM.
But I still don't see how to fix things... Since phone is stuck in recovery with its bootloader locked, it appears as there is no way for me to downgrade now.
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You need to do the "EDL mode or Test point".
Lock xiaomi devices can be unbricked using that method.
Flash firmware using EDL or Test point mode. Please search in youtube.
Hello everybody,
I'm new on XDA and installing ROM on phones . I hope my english will be comprehensible.
I've got a Xiaomi Mi 11 Lite 5G NE.
I obtained it with my mobile subscription at SFR (a french provider).
I read on XDA (and on others websites) that the 2 last letters in the version of MIUI in my phone indicates if the ROM is an "official" ROM by xiaomi or if it contains a provider overcoat.
My phone seems to use a provider overcoat.
It has Miui Global 13.0.1 Stable version.
In the details of MIUI Version, it's wrote MIUI Global 13.0.1 Stable 13.0.1(SKOEUSF).
I understand, unless I am mistaken, that the ROM is an European ROM.
The "SF" at the end meaning SFR in my case.
I would like to replace my actual ROM by an official Xiaomi Rom mainly to get the updates faster.
So I have many questions :
How can I do a full backup of my phone to restore it in case of problem ? I read something about a Nandroid backup but I didn't understand everything about it. Is there a good tutorial somewhere to do it ?
I saw that I have to use Mi Unlock tool to unlock bootloader. If I don't do that, I will not be able to change the ROM. Am I wrong ?
If not, where can I download this tool to unlock. I found many sites and I feel lost to find the good one. Is this one is the good to use : https://en.miui.com/unlock/download_en.html ?
Do I need to use a tool like TWRP ?
After that, I have to download the ROM.
I found this one to install an European ROM : https://c.mi.com/oc/miuidownload/detail?device=1900401 in the Xiaomi 11 Lite 5G NE EEA Section on the left. Is it correct ?
To install this ROM, I understand i have to use a tool to flash it.
Where can I download the tool because I found many versions.
I think this one is the good but I'm not sure of that : https://xiaomiflashtool.com/download/xiaomi-flash-tool-20220507.
Finally I found this video (in French). It explains how to proceed to do this ROM changing but I'm not sure if it's the good procedure :
Thanks a lot for your help
Some answers
First, you will need to unlock Bootloader, process will take 168 hours (7 days). Same procedure for all Xiaomi phones, google to find how-to
Be aware that unlocking BL will trigger Factory reset on your phone (hence do the backup in advance)
You need BL unlocked to switch to EEA, and optionally also to install TWRP (Orange Fox or other custom recoveries), custom ROMs or just kernels, root (Magisk)
Following is a useful app to find Xiaomi ROMs for your device:
MIUI Downloader - Apps on Google Play
MIUI upgrade app for Mi users.
play.google.com
Attached is an older doc describing the Xiaomi firmware names
Android backup requires TWRP, hence already unlocked Bootloader.
There is a good app for backup-restore but it requires root (hence already unlocked BL and Magisk installed):
Swift Backup - Apps on Google Play
A simple, fast and smart backup solution for Android smartphones
play.google.com
For unlocking BL you will need MI account - with their account you can also do backup (open Settings and scroll to Mi Account).
Otherwise you have Google account backup...
When flashing with MiFlash, pay attention that you do not relock Bootloader - by default relocking is enabled.
If anything goes wrong and phone would not boot, ppl get bricked phones - since BL was locked, they cannot flash again to fix and they cannot unlock BL since phone does not boot, they have to seek for paid help from authorized EDL accounts
Official TWRP.me does not yet support Android 12. There is an Orange Fox recovery here on XDA that should work with your MIUI 13/A12 (I am intentionally on MIUI 12.5.8/A11 still)
But you don't need TWRP (for switching to EEA, even for installing Magisk if you would wish).
Backup with Swift app is more useful than And round backup in custom Recovery bcs in Swift you can restore only selected apps, etc (Nandroud backup restores everything from the moment when it was backed up)
Useful link:
Xiaomi Firmware Updater
The ultimate script that provides firmware packages for Xiaomi devices.
xiaomifirmwareupdater.com
Btw, for anything (even for unlocking BL) you will need ADB and Fastboot tools on your PC.
Download and install Minimal ADB and Fastboot (find its thread on XDA) or Google Platform Tools
@zgfg,
Thank you for your answer.
168 hours to unlock the bootloader ? It is very long.
So I'm not sure i want to try this if finally it could fail.
I've installed MIUI Downloader but which file(s) must I download : Recovery, OTA, Fastboot, each of them ?
I ever have a Mi Account.
I'm searching for a method very detailed (if it is possible or exist) to change the ROM, but honnestly I'm a little stressed about doing this operation.
I wouldn't brick my phone.
SebThi said:
@zgfg,
Thank you for your answer.
168 hours to unlock the bootloader ? It is very long.
So I'm not sure i want to try this if finally it could fail.
I've installed MIUI Downloader but which file(s) must I download : Recovery, OTA, Fastboot, each of them ?
I ever have a Mi Account.
I'm searching for a method very detailed (if it is possible or exist) to change the ROM, but honnestly I'm a little stressed about doing this operation.
I wouldn't brick my phone.
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Google about 168 hours - that's Xiaomi measure to make it harder for resellers who buy phones in China, flash them with Global or EEA and sell worldwide
Recovery firmware is only for upgrading while staying with the same locale (Global to Global, etc).
For that you don't need unlocked Bootloader and they install through stock Recovery
To switch from eg CN to EEA, you need unlocked BL, Fastboot firmware and MiFlash
Ok.
Thanks for your answer.
Before starting anything I will try to search a lot of experiences of other owners who did that.
Maybe one day, i'll try
It's only 7 days. Start the unlocking BL process ASAP, during the week learn more and decide what you will do when you unlock BL
Better than to rush and brick the phone
OK. I wil try that.
Another question : to unlock the booloader it runs during 7 days night and days ?
SebThi said:
OK. I wil try that.
Another question : to unlock the booloader it runs during 7 days night and days ?
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It takes 7 days
You have to 'use the phone', ie it must have SIM card and be turned on
You may turn it sporadically off but they don't allow that you eg buy ten phones, request unlocking Bootloaders with a single SIM for all of them, and then wait 7 days that you can unlock (change firmwares and sell them)
Please understand their point. I cannot tell you how many minutes the phone can be turned off daily or something.
Besides, if you google, you will find a lot about
I have one question regarding to the same topic. Lot of custom roms use recommend to use their own custom recovery for flashing the rom. After flashing the ROM, can another recovery be loaded into the device or can twrp or orange fox be used to flash custom roms even if they recommend to use their custom recover for flashing?
SebThi said:
Another question : to unlock the booloader it runs during 7 days night and days ?
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It does not run continiously during the 7 days. You can open the mi unlock app, request to unlock BL. You will see a message telling you to wait for 7 days. Then you can unplug the phone and use it as normal. After 7 days, plug the phone back in and you will be able to unlock BL without problem.
I also have a Mi 11 Lite 5G NE Global with EU rom. I need to flash Taiwanese (TW) rom with mi dialer-contacts and also lock bootloader too? (Google wallet doesn't work with unlocked bootloader). Is it safe to do? I know you cannot flash CN phones with other region roms and then lock bootloader, they don't start and get bricked.
I found all possible combinations and their answers in this video and its comments below.
duellerg said:
I also have a Mi 11 Lite 5G NE Global with EU rom. I need to flash Taiwanese (TW) rom with mi dialer-contacts and also lock bootloader too? (Google wallet doesn't work with unlocked bootloader). Is it safe to do? I know you cannot flash CN phones with other region roms and then lock bootloader, they don't start and get bricked.
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If u have EU phone and u flash TW version and after lock bootloader u brick ur phone. U must have unlocked bootloader. Its not true if u have unlocked bootloader u cant use GPay. I use and everything work. Just flash Xiaomi.eu Pixelos or other customrom with Safemet Pass
I managed flashing TW rom with the stock fastboot. I left it unlocked as I am not sure if I brick it doing so, although in YouTube video shows that you can lock it. Safetynet check suggests to lock bootloader and gpay doesn't work. If someone else hasn't tried it in Mi 11, I cannot trust the guy in YouTube. So the only way is to root and install magisk, but then I miss OTA updates which is something that I need. The phone belongs to my father.
If u lock bootloader with other rom u have bootloop and brick device. Old Xiaomi works but after 2016 or 2018 u cant lock.
Just search a Rom with TW lang and SafetyNet
Thank you my friend you were clear. I don't need TW language, I am Greek. I only needed mi dialer that has call recording. So I must install magisk and flash manually every miui rom update. I believe twrp isn't necessary, original fastboot will do flash magisk's patched boot.img . Can I flash updates without erasing my data every time?
Xiaomi.eu Rom have mi dailer with call recording. Also GPay work well and all apps Mi dont have ads.
Try it and u have OTA update
Based on China Stable / Weekly builds
3way reboot menu (in dev settings)
MIUI Contacts and Dialer
Removed ads in MIUI system apps
MIUI Dialer and Messages apps
Steps counter in Assistant screen
More shortcuts on left lockscreen
Wake up gestures for all devices
AI preloading option in MIUI Lab for all devices
Option to auto-expand first notification
Notifications priority settings
More edit options in Gallery app
Enabled MiDrive in File Explorer
Added landscape mode for SMS app
Sunrise/Sunset in the weather app
Google apps support integrated
Removed 5GHz region restrictions
Confirm dials from call logs
Morning report on alarm at morning
More apps supported for AOD notifications
More styles for AOD screen
Raise to wake gesture
AOD notification received animation
Tap fingerprint sensor to wake toggle
More Camera features
Double tap to lock screen
Battery AI scenes
Allowed disabling specific system apps
Importing theme .mtz from zhuti.xiaomi.com via ThemeManager
No useless Chinese bloatware apps
More free RAM due to less background processes
Mi Video, Mi Music, Mi Browser: No any useless Chinese content
No possibility to re-lock bootloader accidentally with flash any xiaomi.eu release
Added real 27 languages translation made by Official MIUI Fansites and MIUI Fans
Added EU T9 dialer support
Added charging sound switch
Optimized GPS settings for EU
Optimized Battery consumption
Optimized RAM consumption
Added GSMalphabet into SMS app options
SafetyNet passed by default (Google Pay)
Play Store Certified
Deodexed
Added automated tasks in Security app
Added game speed booster
Widevine L1 (for supported devices)
And more, and more made by our 10 years MIUI mods experience
Found what you proposed here https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/22-10-26.67225/
I'll need twrp as the rom for lisa is in recovery format. I think I can manage installing it, sounds as the perfect solution for my needs.