Hi all!
I have not been on here for several months but am starting to look at what's out there as of now. I am still on 12 and the June build with Kirisakura kernel. I would like to know what others are running so I can consider what to do next as it's time to start tinkering. Go to 13? Custom AOSP? What are most running now? And yes, I know the experience is unique to our devices so no need to point that out.
Thanks!
i use ricedroid v8 with kirisakura and it works perfectly
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i use ricedroid v8 with kirisakura and it works perfectly
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I second this.
Rice is one of the best custom roms here with loads of customisations and compatible with Kiri kernel.
I'm on stock for now but waiting for Rice 9
MidnightDevil said:
I second this.
Rice is one of the best custom roms here with loads of customisations and compatible with Kiri kernel.
I'm on stock for now but waiting for Rice 9
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Awesome - this one did look great. I will check it out!
Thank you!!
I'm running paranoid android topaz. I like the fact the rom has an ota function. I think I gotta go thru the hassle of fastboot flashing root every update though
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i use ricedroid v8 with kirisakura and it works perfectly
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Agreed 100%.
fil3s said:
I'm running paranoid android topaz. I like the fact the rom has an ota function. I think I gotta go thru the hassle of fastboot flashing root every update though
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I used to run PA on my past devices. Is this pretty stable in your experience?
darbylonia said:
I used to run PA on my past devices. Is this pretty stable in your experience?
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Yes it's pretty stable. Some system apps show the 'app not responding' popup.
I experienced very severe slowdown and lag on stock. I think it had to do with cloud syncing. Although, on PA I don't experience any slowdown. Stable enough for daily use imo. Use the latest version
darbylonia said:
Hi all!
I have not been on here for several months but am starting to look at what's out there as of now. I am still on 12 and the June build with Kirisakura kernel. I would like to know what others are running so I can consider what to do next as it's time to start tinkering. Go to 13? Custom AOSP? What are most running now? And yes, I know the experience is unique to our devices so no need to point that out.
Thanks!
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Depends on your objectives. If you have any interest in actual security, you should look at GrapheneOS. Pretty much everything else is made by kids who have no idea what they're doing, so don't trust it too far.
96carboard said:
Depends on your objectives. If you have any interest in actual security, you should look at GrapheneOS. Pretty much everything else is made by kids who have no idea what they're doing, so don't trust it too far.
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Thanks! I will check out Graphene. Never tried it before. I am interested in security.
sjgoel said:
Agreed 100%.
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Can you get rooted after it?
spinoza23 said:
Can you get rooted after it?
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Yes.
Sandboxed gapps isn't flzwless. You can't sync contacts through google. If you consider graphene please research and don't just dive in like i did stupidly one day. It isn't customization focused so if you want to tweak stuff look into ricedroid or even crdroid. But if you want a secure os and don't use too much google graphene is the gold standard. Calling everything else garbage is a very terrible mindset. I try to encourage developers, not insult them like a certain someone in this thread
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Thanks! I will check out Graphene. Never tried it before. I am interested in security.
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if you want any extra features grapheneos is not what you want, unless you are being targetted by somebody or are super paranoid its overkill imo
MidnightDevil said:
I second this.
Rice is one of the best custom roms here with loads of customisations and compatible with Kiri kernel.
I'm on stock for now but waiting for Rice 9
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Is rice like stock pixel ROM with all the same features like Now Playing etc? Obviously I know it has loads more customisations. Thanks.
Twilightsparklez said:
Sandboxed gapps isn't flzwless. You can't sync contacts through google. If you consider graphene please research and don't just dive in like i did stupidly one day. It isn't customization focused so if you want to tweak stuff look into ricedroid or even crdroid. But if you want a secure os and don't use too much google graphene is the gold standard. Calling everything else garbage is a very terrible mindset. I try to encourage developers, not insult them like a certain someone in this thread
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Of course you can sync google contacts. Use DAVx5 as the interface software.
Twilightsparklez said:
Sandboxed gapps isn't flzwless. You can't sync contacts through google. If you consider graphene please research and don't just dive in like i did stupidly one day. It isn't customization focused so if you want to tweak stuff look into ricedroid or even crdroid. But if you want a secure os and don't use too much google graphene is the gold standard. Calling everything else garbage is a very terrible mindset. I try to encourage developers, not insult them like a certain someone in this thread
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I am using GrapheneOS (my own Magisk Patched build) and you are able to sync google contacts with the included contacts app, it took a minute for them to appear after installing the play services and stuff then logging in, as well as granting the appropriate permissions, google play services needs the contacts permission, it's very secure by default and because of this you will need to grant google some permissions for everything to work as it does on google stock, like the notifications permission
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if you want any extra features grapheneos is not what you want, unless you are being targetted by somebody or are super paranoid its overkill imo
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Graphenes extra features are more security features, it does have far less customizability than some other roms but is still a great rom for every day use, I don't believe you need to be paranoid to want the security it offers
one of the main things for me is being able to lock the bootloader and have full AVB2 protections
this makes my data much more secure if the phone were to fall into the hands of someone else
You are also still able to root the phone with magisk and have a locked boot loader with Graphene if you build the rom yourself or use the builds I provide, this allows you to use Magisk and LSPosed to make further modifications as necessary
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Graphenes extra features are more security features, it does have far less customizability than some other roms but is still a great rom for every day use, I don't believe you need to be paranoid to want the security it offers
one of the main things for me is being able to lock the bootloader and have full AVB2 protections
this makes my data much more secure if the phone were to fall into the hands of someone else
You are also still able to root the phone with magisk and have a locked boot loader with Graphene if you build the rom yourself or use the builds I provide, this allows you to use Magisk and LSPosed to make further modifications as necessary
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yeah it does depend on your threat model ig, i find that i dont really need a locked bootloader so i dont mind
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I know that it is possible to revert all the root, unlocking and so on. I'm just wondering about warranty.
I know what OnePlus says about it BUT! I am worried that if my device decides to suddenly break, OnePlus will see that my device has been rooted and I will have a harder time getting it through warranty even though warranty is not void by rooting.
I am not planning to do something seriously weird with my phone. Just want to try out a few popular kernels and roms. But the warranty situation scares me. Any thoughts?
Ask One Plus.
If I buy an Android phone it's for liberty it gives me.
Stop let your fears drive you.
Striatum_bdr said:
Ask One Plus.
If I buy an Android phone it's for liberty it gives me.
Stop let your fears drive you.
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Of Course i have done that but the answers are very formal and pasted. Just wanted to know if someone wanted to offer their thoughts about what is even possible from OnePlus point if view.
I haven't bothered yet... The stock ROM is fine. Not worth the effort and potential hassle to get a different colored battery icon or 0.5% faster benchmark scores...
Let me ax you... What features do you need Root for that cannot be had without it?
That will tell you whether you need to root or not...
yes it is worth it, u do not void ur warranty so there is no reason not to, once u root and unlock ur bootloader, install TWRP and make backup, u can then start to tinker and download many different apps like xposed to change things around, there are endless possibility with being rooted, also u can get updates quicker at times, and the people who whine and say their phone is not working or the update killed their phone, u just backup all ur apps with a backup app like titantium backup (pretty popular) then do a clean flash of the rom and u r good to go, u can remove system apps u don't use and use up battery, u can download custom kernels to adjust cpu speeds for better battery life, free apps with lucky patcher (i don't think i was supposed to mention that though), with xposed u can bypass the passcode and use fingerprint on start. Themeing different apps if u r into that. just so much to do, also there is no hassle like the guy above stated, u just download the toolkit and u r done in like 5 min.
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I haven't bothered yet... The stock ROM is fine. Not worth the effort and potential hassle to get a different colored battery icon or 0.5% faster benchmark scores...
Let me ax you... What features do you need Root for that cannot be had without it?
That will tell you whether you need to root or not...
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Mostly for battery but also for gestures. Really like the gestures feature i have seen in RR, and maybe in more roms than RR? It also seems that arter97 cm ROM is well optimized both with his kernel, and ROM. I don't care about benchmarks. But the overall feel seems faster with that ROM according to XDA
I haven't done it myself either, since most of the reasons for which I unlock and install custom ROM and root are available (adblock, aggressive doze, oxygen OS customizations, etc)
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I haven't bothered yet... The stock ROM is fine. Not worth the effort and potential hassle to get a different colored battery icon or 0.5% faster benchmark scores...
Let me ax you... What features do you need Root for that cannot be had without it?
That will tell you whether you need to root or not...
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That is so true! The stock OxygenOS is buttery smooth!
Yes.
Absolutely worth rooting (want a good backup?) and warranty cannot be voided because of rooting (http://bit.ly/2bsmV1T)
Oneplus has no problems with rooted phones as i did a warranty service for my OPO last year.
So yes it is worth rooting and unlocking to enjoy the freedom of what Android and OnePlus has to offer..!
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Let me ax you... What features do you need Root for that cannot be had without it?
That will tell you whether you need to root or not...
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For me, Xposed and EX Kernel Manger are the biggies. Of course you could install a kernel without using an app, but the app has OTA updates plus some other nice features.
So what kernel+rom is the best regarding smoothness and battery life compared to stock? I would also really like to know what roms have the gestures feature that the RR rom has. my goal by coming from iOS is to access apps as quickly as possible without having to go through folders and ****.
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So what kernel+rom is the best regarding smoothness and battery life compared to stock? I would also really like to know what roms have the gestures feature that the RR rom has. my goal by coming from iOS is to access apps as quickly as possible without having to go through folders and ****.
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What specific gestures feature are you referring to?
Giocarro said:
What specific gestures feature are you referring to?
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Saw a Review on Youtube where you could enter gestures anywhere and a lot of different gestures aswell..
markusviktorius said:
Saw a Review on Youtube where you could enter gestures anywhere and a lot of different gestures aswell..
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you know the stock OOS rom/kernel has gestures, right?
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you know the stock OOS rom/kernel has gestures, right?
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Yeah ofc. But not that. Here:
https://youtu.be/M-F5Lrdt5C0
Geatures anywhere 6:23
I used to be on Pure Nexus and obviously that hasn't been updated in a long time. I went on two different new ROM's that supposedly have no bugs and I had tons of bugs after following the instructions explicitly.
Is there a custom rom that actually is bug free the widgets work, the screen turns on without lag, and Google Assistant works???
I have tried a few roms, but personally I feel that non other rom has a better battery life and overall smoothness than the stock rom, just root it with Magisk and enjoy.
Loving Resurrection Remix with EXnoshadez Kernel and Xposed Greenify. Great battery life. I've tried Firehound, Benzo, Pixeldust, and Lineage. I'm preferring RR then Lineage as a close second.
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Loving Resurrection Remix with EXnoshadez Kernel and Xposed Greenify. Great battery life. I've tried Firehound, Benzo, Pixeldust, and Lineage. I'm preferring RR then Lineage as a close second.
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Why do you prefer RR over Firehound?
I'm using Firehound and I find it solid and has all the extras I need. I was thinking of trying RR, but there seems to be a lot of bugs mentioned on the XDA thread.
Been using RR for a few days and doesn't have any major issues at all. Everything's been working fine.
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I used to be on Pure Nexus and obviously that hasn't been updated in a long time. I went on two different new ROM's that supposedly have no bugs and I had tons of bugs after following the instructions explicitly.
Is there a custom rom that actually is bug free the widgets work, the screen turns on without lag, and Google Assistant works???
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RR has INSANE battery life, barely drains even if there are 3 audio mods installed, I would suggest using that. There is only one bug that is going to be fixed
Anything wrong with stock in particular? The monthly updates are prompt and basically effortless without needing to flash vendors or wait for the ROM developer to update. If you're not on stock (nonroot, locked BL), you run the risk of one day not being able to use apps that utilitize SafetyNet in case you use financial apps. Magisk has worked well in providing ways to circumvent it in a timely manner, but it is not guaranteed to always be able to bypass every update to SafetyNet, which the developer has mentioned.
ROMs aren't going to change the chipset magically to a newer one and increase performance substantially or add mAhs of battery to double the battery life. Android has matured since the days of using ChevyNo1 or P3Droid kernels on Sholes.
This is the conversation I am seeking. I am not going to say what ones I have used but Maps, widgets, WiFi calling, black screen when turning on. I want to avoid those situations.
kingbri said:
RR has INSANE battery life, barely drains even if there are 3 audio mods installed, I would suggest using that. There is only one bug that is going to be fixed
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What bug is that?
richii0207 said:
Anything wrong with stock in particular? The monthly updates are prompt and basically effortless without needing to flash vendors or wait for the ROM developer to update. If you're not on stock (nonroot, locked BL), you run the risk of one day not being able to use apps that utilitize SafetyNet in case you use financial apps. Magisk has worked well in providing ways to circumvent it in a timely manner, but it is not guaranteed to always be able to bypass every update to SafetyNet, which the developer has mentioned.
ROMs aren't going to change the chipset magically to a newer one and increase performance substantially or add mAhs of battery to double the battery life. Android has matured since the days of using ChevyNo1 or P3Droid kernels on Sholes.
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It is the customization I seek.
Scottay5150 said:
What bug is that?
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just an "OK google service has stopped notification"
kingbri said:
just an "OK google service has stopped notification"
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but ok goog works?
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but ok goog works?
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Not sure, don't use it, the mod is releasing an update fixing this today or tmrw, just stay on the rom you're on until he updates
I'm on xenon it's working great for me I'm also using purez kernel
Gordietm said:
Why do you prefer RR over Firehound?
I'm using Firehound and I find it solid and has all the extras I need. I was thinking of trying RR, but there seems to be a lot of bugs mentioned on the XDA thread.
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I just decided to try all the publicly released ROMs. I was on Firehound before i switched to RR. I still have my TWRP backup of it. RR just hasn't given me a reason to go back.
Jackaroop said:
I just decided to try all the publicly released ROMs. I was on Firehound before i switched to RR. I still have my TWRP backup of it. RR just hasn't given me a reason to go back.
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There's going to be an update to Firehound today. I'll flash that. Maybe after try RR, thanks.
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It is the customization I seek.
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IDK man, I see all that troubleshooting you're going through trying to get the device to run normally through the Pixel section. Is it really worth all that just to be able to change some cosmetics?
Stock will give you zero issues and save you the headache of what you're going through. Wouldn't it be nice to never have to worry about plugging into a computer to update, formatting or data, or spend so much time trying to get a device working? While at the same time, you get the updates as soon as they are available.
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I used to be on Pure Nexus and obviously that hasn't been updated in a long time. I went on two different new ROM's that supposedly have no bugs and I had tons of bugs after following the instructions explicitly.
Is there a custom rom that actually is bug free the widgets work, the screen turns on without lag, and Google Assistant works???
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I wish mods would get rid of this guy. All of your "questions" are absurd and its annoying to see your profile pic spammed throughout all the threads.
stebomurkn420 said:
I wish mods would get rid of this guy. All of your "questions" are absurd and its annoying to see your profile pic spammed throughout all the threads.
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OK folks. I want to apologize for my flooding of the forums attempting to repair my situation last week. Yes, I have been flashing for a long time without real complications. I haven't been on my ADHD meds for a while and that did not help me with the drama last week. Unfortunately my world like most of you is in my phone, I was panicked. Sorry about that.
Needless to say I needed other eyes on what I was doing for perspective sake. I went to my PC tech, luckily had personal flashing experiences with Android, Pixel even. We worked on it for about 6 hours in total. He couldn't get RR to work.
The issue was this after following the OP instructions. Once in the system I couldn't get the WiFi to connect with the phone, not being able to download whatever the phone was looking for. Google play services kept FC'ing. Google TTS kept FC'ing as well. I don't know if there is a fix or a forthcoming fix for this abnormal issue. I deleted data from the apps that were FC'ing and other Google that might be related. PS: not a RR issue I had this same issue with Benzo)
Unfortunately, we didn't save anything from the old RR setup because I couldn't be without a phone for another day. Any constructive thoughts would be welcomed.
I shall attempt to reinstall RR at some point to see if it works, or to get data to help the devs understand what might have happened or might had happened.
I am back on stock, not loving it that is for sure.
I don't know why Google hasnt implemented this in the stock builds, but I am very happy with my setup besides that one feature. I have looked into a bit, but honestly, I am way to busy to learn something new currently. Anybody willing to help me out for a beer?
Brakiss said:
I don't know why Google hasnt implemented this in the stock builds, but I am very happy with my setup besides that one feature. I have looked into a bit, but honestly, I am way to busy to learn something new currently. Anybody willing to help me out for a beer?
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No beer necessary bruh. If your rooted, just flash a custom rom...DU, Nitrogen, Aquarios, Validus, Carbon, all have LPBTK. If your stock, then I believe there's an app or 2 that will do that as well. :good:
I don't see the need to flash a custom rom anymore, stock is awesome. I don't have bull**** overlays like sense hindering my processes. I root, flash a custom kernel add adway and I call it good.
I looked and none of them specificed back to kill. I will look again.
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I don't see the need to flash a custom rom anymore, stock is awesome. I don't have bull**** overlays like sense hindering my processes. I root, flash a custom kernel add adway and I call it good.
I looked and none of them specificed back to kill. I will look again.
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I've run both DU and Aquarios. Your correct in that they don't specify the LPBTK. However, if you see, the smart bar with fling by DU mentioned, that gives you the ability to do just that
I'm running AquariOS right now and other than the lack of edge squeeze, there is zero reason Not to run a custom rom. It is very tight and running as good or better because I need less goofing around to make it exactly like I want. And yes the LPTK works very well. I can't imagine ever going back to stock unless I need to clean up for another ROM.
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I've run both DU and Aquarios. Your correct in that they don't specify the LPBTK. However, if you see, the smart bar with fling by DU mentioned, that gives you the ability to do just that
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The reason why is that Google says it will mess with Google app and 3rd party app functionality. That's what they've said before
Brakiss said:
I don't know why Google hasnt implemented this in the stock builds, but I am very happy with my setup besides that one feature. I have looked into a bit, but honestly, I am way to busy to learn something new currently. Anybody willing to help me out for a beer?
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Use xposed n gravity box
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Bump, Just want to see if anyone out there has the nohow to put this together as a flashable? I understand that some custom roms have it, but I love stock, and I understand xposed has it, but xposed seems to break things I use (like Pay) so just hoping someone can point me in the right way or help me out. Thanks!
So I have been in this modding android game for quite some time since I had an LG G3 and then I moved over to the Nexus 6 for about 2 years and some of these custom roms are just awesome but one thing I cannot get rid of properly are the inbuilt AOSP apps..
on the Nexus 6 a few years back somebody made a flashable zip that got rid of all of them and the boot animation but then fixed the boot animation being deleted and unfortunately time to change technology has changed and that doesn't work on this phone obviously.
I have tried using the magisk debloater and it just a little too complicated for me because I don't like having two of the same apps one being Google the other being AOSP and any other gaps package I flash besides the razorlove gapps fail when flashing a custom ROM..
I've tried using opengapps and I thought when flashing that package the AOSP apps get replaced with the Google version of them.
Would anybody mind listing what AOSP apps I can remove completely and I apologize if it's already on the thread but I didn't really see anything or maybe I just wasn't looking in the right place but can you guys help me out? I really like the RR ROM but the AOSP apps just bothered the hell out of me. I've tried using titanium to completely remove some of them like the AOSP Keyboard but it doesn't fully remove them and I don't want to go into the files that I don't know about and screw up my phone..
So right now I'm on stock and the limitations kind of suck so if anybody could you know help me out listing a method that they use to get rid of them that actually works or listing the ones that I can remove and what program I can use to remove them I do not want to disable them I want to remove them... Or because I know how to use Linux and what not you know maybe somebody could show me how to make a flashable zip that will remove them and I will gladly share it to the community but I'm looking for anything that helps.
It would be greatly appreciated!
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So I have been in this modding android game for quite some time since I had an LG G3 and then I moved over to the Nexus 6 for about 2 years and some of these custom roms are just awesome but one thing I cannot get rid of properly are the inbuilt AOSP apps..
on the Nexus 6 a few years back somebody made a flashable zip that got rid of all of them and the boot animation but then fixed the boot animation being deleted and unfortunately time to change technology has changed and that doesn't work on this phone obviously.
I have tried using the magisk debloater and it just a little too complicated for me because I don't like having two of the same apps one being Google the other being AOSP and any other gaps package I flash besides the razorlove gapps fail when flashing a custom ROM..
I've tried using opengapps and I thought when flashing that package the AOSP apps get replaced with the Google version of them.
Would anybody mind listing what AOSP apps I can remove completely and I apologize if it's already on the thread but I didn't really see anything or maybe I just wasn't looking in the right place but can you guys help me out? I really like the RR ROM but the AOSP apps just bothered the hell out of me. I've tried using titanium to completely remove some of them like the AOSP Keyboard but it doesn't fully remove them and I don't want to go into the files that I don't know about and screw up my phone..
So right now I'm on stock and the limitations kind of suck so if anybody could you know help me out listing a method that they use to get rid of them that actually works or listing the ones that I can remove and what program I can use to remove them I do not want to disable them I want to remove them... Or because I know how to use Linux and what not you know maybe somebody could show me how to make a flashable zip that will remove them and I will gladly share it to the community but I'm looking for anything that helps.
It would be greatly appreciated!
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You do realize that AOSP is not a single project like some rom developers, right? If someone publishes an "AOSP" rom, that doesn't mean that they are following some kind of standards or rules.
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You do realize that AOSP is not a single project like some rom developers, right? If someone publishes an "AOSP" rom, that doesn't mean that they are following some kind of standards or rules.
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Well obviously but what I'm saying is pretty much every ROM that I flash seems to have the built-in apps that are AOSP based or maybe I'm not saying it right but basically every ROM that I've tried (dirty unicorns, Resurrection Remix, carbon, dotOS, sudomod,) all have built-in AOSP Keyboard AOSP phone AOSP calendar AOSP email **** like that and that's what I want to remove
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Well obviously but what I'm saying is pretty much every ROM that I flash seems to have the built-in apps that are AOSP based or maybe I'm not saying it right but basically every ROM that I've tried (dirty unicorns, Resurrection Remix, carbon, dotOS, sudomod,) all have built-in AOSP Keyboard AOSP phone AOSP calendar AOSP email **** like that and that's what I want to remove
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But I am doing some research on a flashable zip creator from XDA and hopefully I can make some progress with it
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Well obviously but what I'm saying is pretty much every ROM that I flash seems to have the built-in apps that are AOSP based or maybe I'm not saying it right but basically every ROM that I've tried (dirty unicorns, Resurrection Remix, carbon, dotOS, sudomod,) all have built-in AOSP Keyboard AOSP phone AOSP calendar AOSP email **** like that and that's what I want to remove
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A piece of advice. Get rid of your Pixel as soon as you can. It's a bug testing platform for Google. Samsung, HTC, LG, Oneplus take buggy Google code and refine it. Google doesn't bother.
I only keep this $960 piece of **** (which is now worth less that $300) because I have no other alternative at the moment. As soon as I can dump it for a real a phone, I will.
I'm good thanks I do my research before I buy my phones and I will never buy another Samsung again and dumping my phone is not an option right now if it was I get me the Rog phone from Asus that thing is a beast
soateufel said:
I'm good thanks I do my research before I buy my phones and I will never buy another Samsung again and dumping my phone is not an option right now if it was I get me the Rog phone from Asus that thing is a beast
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I used an S9 for a little while when I was setting it up for a friend. It's a marvelous phone. I have owned multiple HTC flagships in the past, and they were stellar. I have heard that LG and Oneplus were excellent. My last phone before Pixel XL was Note 7, which was absolutely amazing, one of a kind. This pos Pixel XL has been nothing but bug ridden nightmare. The only reason why I keep it around is because of Project FI. It's because it's cheap. Goddamn $960 nightmare on top of that.
Also, please use punctuation next time. Not using it seems like an insult, but maybe that's just me.
I like my pixel XL. No bugs here.
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I used an S9 for a little while when I was setting it up for a friend. It's a marvelous phone. I have owned multiple HTC flagships in the past, and they were stellar. I have heard that LG and Oneplus were excellent. My last phone before Pixel XL was Note 7, which was absolutely amazing, one of a kind. This pos Pixel XL has been nothing but bug ridden nightmare. The only reason why I keep it around is because of Project FI. It's because it's cheap. Goddamn $960 nightmare on top of that.
Also, please use punctuation next time. Not using it seems like an insult, but maybe that's just me.
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lafester said:
I like my pixel XL. No bugs here.
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Ignorance is bliss.
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Ignorance is bliss.
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Maybe you can fill us in on all these bugs you speak of. Would hate to continue to be ignorant.
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Ignorance is bliss.
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lafester said:
Maybe you can fill us in on all these bugs you speak of. Would hate to continue to be ignorant.
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I'd like to know too, cause I must be missing something. I have absolutely no issues with my device...
lafester said:
Maybe you can fill us in on all these bugs you speak of. Would hate to continue to be ignorant.
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Click on my profile and find new threads started by me in this subforum.
I believe every single new thread was me complaining about one bug or another.
The biggest one that is always on my mind though, and which is almost a deal breaker, was introduced by Google in the 7.0.2 update. And they still haven't fixed it, but all other manufacturers have - I know for a fact that this bug was fixed in Oreo by Samsung and Oneplus.
It's where you wear a smartwatch which can make and receive phone calls, such as my beautiful Huawei Watch with a gorgeous custom band, and then you get inside your car with a bluetooth hands-free car kit, or just a bluetooth headset, which then improperly connects to the phone as "Connected (no phone)." So you cannot use it. If you don't wear a watch, then everything works fine with a kit or bt headset. This is the reason why I don't wear my beautiful watch anymore. Google needs to fire their bluetooth stack programmer.
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I used an S9 for a little while when I was setting it up for a friend. It's a marvelous phone. I have owned multiple HTC flagships in the past, and they were stellar. I have heard that LG and Oneplus were excellent. My last phone before Pixel XL was Note 7, which was absolutely amazing, one of a kind. This pos Pixel XL has been nothing but bug ridden nightmare. The only reason why I keep it around is because of Project FI. It's because it's cheap. Goddamn $960 nightmare on top of that.
Also, please use punctuation next time. Not using it seems like an insult, but maybe that's just me.
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My bad. I use speech to text a lot and I don't like using punctuation when speaking. It causes some bad habits.
Update though, upon doing further research making a flashable zip is complicated but I should have it all figured out by the end of the week and I'm not really having any bugs with the AOSP apps I just don't like looking in my app drawer and seeing there's duplicates and I really don't want to manually hide all of them each time I flash a ROM or something and do a backup.
On a side note I just found a Chrome extension that allows speech to text and is very good with no ads. If you're like me and you use your voice more than you use your keyboard, look up voice in voice typing under Chrome extensions pretty damn simple.
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My bad. I use speech to text a lot and I don't like using punctuation when speaking. It causes some bad habits.
Update though, upon doing further research making a flashable zip is complicated but I should have it all figured out by the end of the week and I'm not really having any bugs with the AOSP apps I just don't like looking in my app drawer and seeing there's duplicates and I really don't want to manually hide all of them each time I flash a ROM or something and do a backup.
On a side note I just found a Chrome extension that allows speech to text and is very good with no ads. If you're like me and you use your voice more than you use your keyboard, look up voice in voice typing under Chrome extensions pretty damn simple.
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Sorry for hijacking your thread -was not my intention.
Making a flashable zip is easy with the tool I link in this thread. https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/how-to/noob-friendly-tips-tricks-information-t3798529
soateufel said:
Update though, upon doing further research making a flashable zip is complicated but I should have it all figured out by the end of the week and I'm not really having any bugs with the AOSP apps I just don't like looking in my app drawer and seeing there's duplicates and I really don't want to manually hide all of them each time I flash a ROM or something and do a backup.
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A friend of mine made a script specifically for what you are trying to do, granted, it's for a different device and older version of Android. Some small modification should be all it needs to suit your purpose, if nothing else, it may contain some useful information.
The thread is located here (Keep in mind, he's from Brazil, so his English is a little rough =)
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Sorry for hijacking your thread -was not my intention.
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You are completely fine. I'm shocked how nice people are on here LOL usually people are just mean and think they have the right answer and I have to accept it no matter what and I just don't like people who are so full of themselves so thank you.
I've been trying to research this but I was supposed to have surgery today and I was getting ready for that and unfortunately it was cancelled without my knowledge so that was pretty stressful and now I have to start the whole process over again because the doctors I was going to go to no longer accept my insurance and nobody told me so I'm still going to work on this it's just going to be a little bit of a process.
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You are completely fine. I'm shocked how nice people are on here LOL usually people are just mean and think they have the right answer and I have to accept it no matter what and I just don't like people who are so full of themselves so thank you.
I've been trying to research this but I was supposed to have surgery today and I was getting ready for that and unfortunately it was cancelled without my knowledge so that was pretty stressful and now I have to start the whole process over again because the doctors I was going to go to no longer accept my insurance and nobody told me so I'm still going to work on this it's just going to be a little bit of a process.
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As a side note, I am now in the same boat as you. I have a Oneplus 6 now, silk white, which is gorgeous. But it has double apps like yours - 2 calendars, 2 calculators, 2 message apps, 2 clock apps etc. I don't even really know which ones are Google and which ones are Oneplus - I think the round icons are Google, but rectangular icons are Oneplus. Plus I don't know which apps are better. I think that I will use some of them for a while and disable the least appealing ones.
There are only a handful, and maybe that's what you can do? Just disable? If you cannot disable from the main Android interface, you can do it from adb. There are commands that can disable and enable app packages from adb.
Hey guys I'm sorry it's been awhile since I've kept up with you guys. So a little side note
I have started this project it is my very first project on my GitHub.
But my problem is I have no idea how to even start this I mean I tried using the flashable zip creator and it pulled the system apps but I'm at a loss here any help would be greatly appreciated..
You can view the project at this link by the way
https://github.com/arkhamsaiyan/Marlin-AOSP-app-remover
Mod edit: TG link removed as per XDA's TG Chat Rules.
(TG link and home page was removed I can only see in their rules the TG link all good so adding back the home page to the home page)
I started project rooted to provide pre rooted roms to people. I'm looking for someone to help with pixel 6 pro. If anyone is interested please let me know. All it really is is patching operating systems, recompiling then, and sharing them.
I think that there is no value at all in this project. All anyone needs to do is run the original boot.img through magisk before they write it to the boot partition and the job is done.
In addition, if anyone was inclined to use 3rd party hosted pre-rooted (or not) boot images, I would VERY STRONGLY recommend that they DO NOT. This is simply because it opens them up to whatever other undisclosed changes happen to have been added to it.
Thanks for the feedback!!! I can assure you that there is absolutely no malicious intent or anything out of the ordinary in these roms. I've had mixed responses with some liking and disliking the project. If it's not your preference no problem I'm not going to stop you from doing it manually or not using my project either way. I'm doing this for fun and am providing a convenient place for roms in one place(without having to search through chats) and with the bonus of being rooted from the start.
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Thanks for the feedback!!! I can assure you that there is absolutely no malicious intent or anything out of the ordinary in these roms. I've had mixed responses with some liking and disliking the project. If it's not your preference no problem I'm not going to stop you from doing it manually or not using my project either way. I'm doing this for fun and am providing a convenient place for roms in one place(without having to search through chats) and with the bonus of being rooted from the start.
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And I can absolutely assure you that I am a Nigerian Prince, and if you direct deposit $500 into my bank acount, I will turn it into $5,000,000.
Gytole said:
And I can absolutely assure you that I am a Nigerian Prince, and if you direct deposit $500 into my bank acount, I will turn it into $5,000,000.
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Lol, I get it. I'm not well known or trusted yet as this is not my first project but first I've tried to get out there as much as I am. Again I'll reiterate that you don't have to use it if you don't trust it all my work is posted even the as basic as it is website is open source on GitHub. If you have any genuine feedback for me I'd love to hear it. Constructive feedback on how to get started and trusted wouldn't be so bad. Thanks for your opinion though, it's good to hear what a community thinks of new projects/ideas
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Lol, I get it. I'm not well known or trusted yet as this is not my first project but first I've tried to get out there as much as I am. Again I'll reiterate that you don't have to use it if you don't trust it all my work is posted even the as basic as it is website is open source on GitHub. If you have any genuine feedback for me I'd love to hear it. Constructive feedback on how to get started and trusted wouldn't be so bad. Thanks for your opinion though, it's good to hear what a community thinks of new projects/ideas
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Thanks for being a great sport
Is there benefit in having it pre rooted? Perhaps easier to pass the safety checks for banking apps?
TrustAugustus said:
Is there benefit in having it pre rooted? Perhaps easier to pass the safety checks for banking apps?
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Yes I have had better success with safetynet since doing this they don't always work out like that but for the most part it's been better. As far as pre-rooted with pixel devices it's not too hard to do, just time consuming. I'm going to build a set of instructions tonight for my website as to how to do so yourself for those who would rather do it manually
That sounds great. I'm looking forward to the project.
Back... like 10 years ago roms came pre rooted as well
TrustAugustus said:
That sounds great. I'm looking forward to the project.
Back... like 10 years ago roms came pre rooted as well
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I remember that was one of the best things ever. That's just one of my reasons I wanted to do this. THANKS for the support!!!
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I remember that was one of the best things ever. That's just one of my reasons I wanted to do this. THANKS for the support!!!
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We understand, just with the new safeties built into to hardware anymore it can comicate things for some people. I am not saying prerooted is WRONG, it can just cause problems. It's not you. Lol
Yeah, some devices can, some won't. I am alware of these but also understand the risk is minimal and unlikely to be president. Reality with anything like this even down to the roms themselves have so many variables that could cause problems. Which I why I have taken the extra steps to test that I have a solidly rooted Rom
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I started project rooted to provide pre rooted roms to people. I'm looking for someone to help with pixel 6 pro. If anyone is interested please let me know. All it really is is patching operating systems, recompiling then, and sharing them.
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For anyone who might want to know this. I have a very poor excuse for a guide on making pre rooted roms on my page now if you have a pixel device it does work. It was quickly put together and I WILL update it SOON and will add screenshots to help as well as fine tuning the wording.
What would be nice is to have the installation routinely root the boot.img if the system is pre-rooted, like Lineage 18 does on my 1+7pro.
Jacobh1245 said:
Thanks for the feedback!!! I can assure you that there is absolutely no malicious intent or anything out of the ordinary in these roms. I've had mixed responses with some liking and disliking the project. If it's not your preference no problem I'm not going to stop you from doing it manually or not using my project either way. I'm doing this for fun and am providing a convenient place for roms in one place(without having to search through chats) and with the bonus of being rooted from the start.
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Its not a question of you having malicious intent. Its a question of best practices for security. Other people who may be more or less trustworthy than you may have similar projects (and in fact, I remember another thread with this exact purpose), and trusting those may be quite dangerous.
But more to the point, and WITHOUT putting your trustworthiness or honor in question, how can anybody know whether you are *actually* trustworthy or just someone claiming (falsely) to be?
And since the process of running it through Magisk is so absurdly trivial, what advantage does this provide to users to compensate them for the risk?
Advantages: nil
Risks: elevated
Rational choice: avoid.
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Its not a question of you having malicious intent. Its a question of best practices for security. Other people who may be more or less trustworthy than you may have similar projects (and in fact, I remember another thread with this exact purpose), and trusting those may be quite dangerous.
But more to the point, and WITHOUT putting your trustworthiness or honor in question, how can anybody know whether you are *actually* trustworthy or just someone claiming (falsely) to be?
And since the process of running it through Magisk is so absurdly trivial, what advantage does this provide to users to compensate them for the risk?
Advantages: nil
Risks: elevated
Rational choice: avoid.
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It does a few things, it in many cases seems to help with safetynet being easier to pass( not always some roms are more stubborn). It provides a convinent place where everything is at. All my stuff is open source and downloadable so you may check whatever you want. Though I don't have the source code to the roms since I'm not building them. And I put links to the roms group chat and instructions as to how(for pixel devices) to make a pre-rooted rom yourself. So if you don't trust it but want it I give how to and where to get the files to do so some also fear that things may not work as mentioned above can happen but is very minimal especially since I test before releasing.
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It does a few things, it in many cases seems to help with safetynet being easier to pass( not always some roms are more stubborn). It provides a convinent place where everything is at. All my stuff is open source and downloadable so you may check whatever you want. Though I don't have the source code to the roms since I'm not building them. And I put links to the roms group chat and instructions as to how(for pixel devices) to make a pre-rooted rom yourself. So if you don't trust it but want it I give how to and where to get the files to do so some also fear that things may not work as mentioned above can happen but is very minimal especially since I test before releasing.
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What version of Magisk do you intend to use? Because on at least 2 or 3 occasions due to Google changing things, Canary has been needed. On the other hand, there have also been occasions where Canary broke some things and Stable was needed.
Because the Pixel 6 series seems to be "often" affected by changes made by Google in their monthly updates, as well as Magisk itself, it seems that pre-rooting a rom on the Pixel 6 series "may" cause some unintended problems.
It's been quite the cat and mouse game when it comes to the Pixel 6 series and rooting in terms of these changes, and not in terms of just rooting itself, but other things like custom kernels, etc..
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What version of Magisk do you intend to use? Because on at least 2 or 3 occasions due to Google changing things, Canary has been needed. On the other hand, there have also been occasions where Canary broke some things and Stable was needed.
Because the Pixel 6 series seems to be "often" affected by changes made by Google in their monthly updates, as well as Magisk itself, it seems that pre-rooting a rom on the Pixel 6 series "may" cause some unintended problems.
It's been quite the cat and mouse game when it comes to the Pixel 6 series and rooting in terms of these changes, and not in terms of just rooting itself, but other things like custom kernels, etc..
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Currently I've been using v25.0 that is one thing I test too and check with others about. So far 25.0 is working great with the minor detail of having to download the magisk apk and install rather then the greyed out icon to "update" but it still works exactly the same and I have not experienced anything broken so far
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Currently I've been using v25.0 that is one thing I test too and check with others about. So far 25.0 is working great with the minor detail of having to download the magisk apk and install rather then the greyed out icon to "update" but it still works exactly the same and I have not experienced anything broken so far
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Yes, but there have been occasions where after a monthly update a Canary version was needed (e.g. December update when Google moved its fstab to /system/etc.) and John had to update Magisk and push a Canary version before people could actually boot a rooted boot image.
And I'm curious if you closely follow the issues, PRs and commits in the Magisk Github? For example, Beta 25.0 has changed (actually changed with Canary 24303 I believe) so that custom kernels will no longer boot unless verity and verification are disabled or if the kernel uses the latest AK3 which patches vendor_dlkm.img and vbmeta.img, or if the kernel patches them itself.
My point is there could be some unintended consequences for people who may not be aware of any current issues unless they are made aware of them before flashing a pre-rooted rom.
Anyway, if people find this useful then good for them and good for you.
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Yes, but there have been occasions where after a monthly update a Canary version was needed (e.g. December update when Google moved its fstab to /system/etc.) and John had to update Magisk and push a Canary version before people could actually boot a rooted boot image.
And I'm curious if you closely follow the issues, PRs and commits in the Magisk Github? For example, Beta 25.0 has changed (actually changed with Canary 24303 I believe) so that custom kernels will no longer boot unless verity and verification are disabled or if the kernel uses the latest AK3 which patches vendor_dlkm.img and vbmeta.img, or if the kernel patches them itself.
My point is there could be some unintended consequences for people who may not be aware of any current issues unless they are made aware of them before flashing a pre-rooted rom.
Anyway, if people find this useful then good for them and good for you.
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I which case testing would show that plus I'm usually pretty good at keeping up with that kind of thing. It is a valid concern but since the versions I release are going to have the correct version for them I will do the same for each rom indevidually as need to make sure they will work properly. Whenever a new version is released. That too means if you are on the same rom and dirty flash to the next one magisk will prompt you to update the app(has been tested too)